Buy Once. Cry Once. Episode 4: Heckler and Koch VP9L, P30L, & USP Expert long slide pistols
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- čas přidán 21. 04. 2021
- In depth review of Heckler and Koch Long Slide pistols chambered in 9x19mm parabellum
Models reviewed are H&K VP9L, H&K P30L, H&K USP Expert.
Time stamps for each gun are:
VP9L - 8:09
P30L - 25:41
USP Expert - 41:22
Links in video:
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Modern Samurai Project:
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Lazy Wolf F2 trigger braking during livefire:
• Broken Lazy Wolf F2 tr... - Sport
I believe this is the first time I’ve ever heard someone say that Striker mechanisms typically have a better feel than a hammer fired mechanism.
single action always feels better then double actiopn. unless you been using double ffor years or what you trained on
Great episode. Bought my first HK in 1986 in Ft Campbell, KY. Paid a fellow GI $250 for a P7 when he had a child and his wife didn't want a gun in the house. He purchased it with a pawn ticket from another GI for $200 who was about to lose it at the pawn shop. I still have that pistol in great condition. Put it away for over 25 years in the 90's. Took it to the range this year and the owner offered me $2K cash for the pistol. Of course I said "No". To this day, I also own a VP9 and a VP9SK. Love all my HKs.
They remind of my tour in Nuremburg, Germany. Erlangen actually.
I'm envious. I've wanted a P7M8 for 10 years and used to balk at the asking price. I wish I would have paid up back then because they just keep climbing in value.
Clicked for HK. Stayed for Collateral reference...
I have the VP9 and the Expert 45 and while I did cry when I bought the expert I don’t regret buying it as it’s in my opinion the best pistol ever
Thanks for the video. I LOVE my P30L.
Wow this was the single best HK review I've ever seen bro , especially on the P30L in that configuration. That P30 L version is my Holy grail !! 🥳👍🏾
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching my content.
THE BEST ViDEO EVER man you described everything in detailed i have watched countless videos and no one went into detail like you did and i love Hk guns i just bought my first HK in May of 2021 and I cried when i bought it but i shot it for the first time july 4th and it blew my mind not only was i the envy of everyone but the gun shoots like butter baby. i have a VP9 but i’m investing in an HK p30sk very soon for my everyday carry and you can’t beat that mag that hold 15 rounds i can’t wait i will be broke but i’ll cry on my pillow with my second HK to heal my sorrows
HAhahah! Rad man. I'm glad you bit by the HK bug. I'm a huge fan of these pistols if you couldn't tell. I appreciate you taking the time to watch my content.
Love this H&k episode!
Thanks for watching my content!
@@DeFenderCo how do you like the heinie sights in the P30l?
@@reker.a5790 They are my favorite iron sights. I talk about them in depth in the P30L section towards the end of that pistol section.
Love my VP70Z, VP9 SK, never had an issue in 50 years. Love my CZ metal pistols. Love vz52 7.62x25TT
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Excellent sober mature presentation 👍
Use to have a P30 V3. Loved it. Foolishly sold it. Yeah I know. Watched this today and am gonna grab a P30 and do the LEM and short reset. Great video.
I have both of the 9mm and 45 USP Experts. They are hands down the standard to judge other handguns in terms of reliability and durability. True go to war weapons.
Nice. I just put a 9mm version on layaway yesterday.
Good stuff. Quite happy with my HK collection so far. Now I gotta go catch that faucet!
That's what I get for trying to read stuff at a glance! Thanks for watching my content.
Finally I found my way back to my people, a channel that understands my madness
Great video, man. Super detailed and you can tell a ton of research went into it.
Can't get any better than this for info, thank you.
Thanks for watching my home made content. I appreciate the feedback.
You’re draw stroke is clean AF. Very simple and efficient… well done sir
Thank you. I feel it needs tons of work still from concealment.
I ended up buying a VP9 3 months ago because of this vid. :) I was leaning towards the P30, but holster options are really limited. But, sure enough, as soon as I was shooting at the range with the VP9, I picked up a rental P30SK to try, and I'm gonna get one as my daily carry.
They truly are a remarkable gun manufacturer.
Thanks for the time you put in on this vid, as it really helped me to make a good decision on my second and soon to be third gun purchase.
I'm happy to hear you're expanding your collection. Hope you got a great deal on it. Now load up on ammo and get training!
@@DeFenderCo Loading up 100 rounds per pay period lol. By the end of the year I should be at about a 1000 round surplus. It's a slog but it's working.
I want the P30. Will be my first HK.
you ever get the p30sk?. Im picking mine up in 9 hours. I cant even sleep im so excited
@@joogullae3456 I did and it's a fantastic summer carry. You should be excited. It's fantastic.
Thank you for your time you spent on this video it clearly shows that you spent a lot of time putting this together thank you for that, the continent was great. I have a P30SK and the VP9, I really enjoy shooting the both of them.
Thanks for taking the time to watch it! Makes it worth it when people enjoy the content.
@@DeFenderCo got 2 p30s that are v3....should I get one with LEM trigger? or is it gonna throw me off in my training? I like v3 bc the sa/da makes it good for cc (to avoid accidental discharges).
@@wcsdiaries That's exactly what the LEM trigger is designed for. A very long deliberate first shot, and then SA follow ups from there forward. I'd rent one before committing to a purchase though.
@@DeFenderCo is the LEM trigger as long as the v3? I noticed even after the first shot the trigger has to travel very far
Well done video, thank you for all the time and effort you put into making this. One gun I regret selling was my USP Compact chambered in .357 Sig…
I appreciate you watching my content. I think the universal rule of gun ownership is never sell, only buy.
Wish I had one.
Lots of great information. Thank you.
Great content and great style of delivery!
Wow Most Detailed video every made I think Now I just need to buy a an H&K You convinced me Thanks
Well done sir. Very informative. Love my VP9
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for making this video. Appreciate the fact that you purchased this pistol and and accessories yourself. Great review.
I'm glad you liked it! I'm a huge HK guy so this was one of the more fun videos I've made to date; learned a ton about each gun, the process, and even the company's history. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on my home made content.
..... This is without a doubt, the most complete and comprehensive Gun review on HK pistols I’ve ever seen... Thank you for all of the valuable information, and putting so much effort into making this video... I can confidently say that just about all the information anyone could ever need about HK and their pistols can be found right here👍
exactly why I'm subbing
This is what I needed to hear.
Looked at the vp9L today. Found your video. One of the best informational videos I have ever watched. Really appreciated the way you presented the information re the firearm.
Did you buy it? Glad you enjoyed my home made content.
I’m another sick HK addict, and retired from Army and Air Force. Began with a new P7M8 long before Hans Gruber ever heard of one. Back then they were $459. ($499 for an M13). When you say Heckler & Koch GmbH, the GmbH represents a different sort of company than an AG. GmbH is pronounced “Gay em bay ha” in German. Owner of two P7M8s, a stainless USPc 45, a P30, two VP9s, a VP40, a P2000SK in 9mm, 40SW and in 357Sig. I also have the VP9 Match. On the longer side, I also have the MR556A1 Competition Model. What has kept me into H&K is their ambidextrous designs. (I’m a lefty). The only except is the earlier USPs. The only modification that I have done to my HK pistols is to replace the mag release on my P2000SK to a slightly larger one off the HK 45. One very interesting think I only learned recently was that the small laser designator I have mounted on my USPc will also fit on a Picatinny mount! Thanks for your fun, thorough coverage of the fine H&K firm. I find many of your conclusions to be very sound. One of the most thorough on the web! Vielen danke!
Best review I’ve seen! Bravo. Great job
great video man,,, i love how transparent you were and honest about everything up front.... i wish more people were,,,,,, I'm a huge fan of H&K and have been for years....
I'm humbled by the community here. I'm just glad people are enjoying my homemade non-sponsored content.
@@DeFenderCo just keep on doing what you are doing.... I make and post videos (on different topics) I keep it real because that is the best way..... I will be watching your videos for sure...
great instructional video have a 30L and have put 12000 rounds to it Cleaned twice sweet tool keep it up dude
Late to the party but I installed my Lazy Wolf a year ago and have shot thousands of rounds through it with no issues. Love that trigger.
I had thousands of rounds through mine too until that one day when it broke.
@@DeFenderCo would you recommend the Grey Guns trigger then over the Lazy Wolf?
I just ordered mines for $499 with 3mags plus 4 extra mags from HK year end deals. Am I crying, yes! After so many guns purchased, I finally finalized my gun.
Beautiful collection
I recently got a USP Expert, I don’t usually see USPs in the store so I had to fold and blow my stack of cash. I was in the market for a full-size 9mm and was close to just doing a glock. My FN 5.7 isn’t really affordable to feed as of late with the lack of ammo making it double in price despite 3-5 new guns emerging and running the sweet little round.
My USP is glorious and my only regret was I didn’t get it a decade ago.
Great video, I’ll be subbing and checking out your other videos 🍻
Nice. I just put a 9mm USP expert on layaway yesterday. They had a used standard USP for $600 cheaper in the shop. But something about the expert made me say "fudge it".
Awesome video. Just bought a P30 and this video was exactly what I needed! Greetings from the Netherlands.
Fantastic! Glad I could help. If you want to turn it into a john wick clone, I have compensators in stock again at wickedcompensator.com
Great review great detail. I wish I got the VP9L but I still love my VP9
You can always get the long slide kit if you absolutely must have the extra length.
I think the kit is an improvement, as it comes with suppressor height sights.
@@donrichter3523 Mine didn't. Mine came with competition sights; blank rear and fiber optic red front sight.
This was so in-depth that I felt compelled to thank you!
Thank you for watching my content!
Outstanding presentation.
Quality like the pistols ✌️
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First of all no knock to guys that get sponsored, i hope if you get an opportunity and you are ok with it you do, i appreciate that you are relatable in hardworking money gets your toys like me. SECOND i appreciate without getting paid you have taken your time to help me with my time in deciding and research
I'm happy to do it. I'm trying to give back to the community that has been so supportive of my journey by helping others through theirs. Thanks for watching my channel.
@@DeFenderCo you have a new sub
I just started watching this site this morning but decided to watch it later, so as to concentrate and learn more about one of my favorite firearms companies. When I Teach / Train Tactical Emergency Medicine withsome LEs or military types, they like me to carry whatever their department is using, ie Glock / Sig. Two Summers-ago, I used my H&K VP9 that my wife surprised me with for Christmas, in a CCB Handgun - Blade - Combatives - Tactical Medicine Course with Bill Rapier, in Idaho. Bill was one of the SEALS on the Bin Laden Raid. He was excellent. While Bill used his Red Dot - Walther, I used my VP9, fixed Tritium sights. ⚕🇺🇸
Great video, I really enjoyed the class.
Thanks for taking the time to watch my home made content.
This was incredibly well put-together. Thank you!!!
I am ashamed of myself. I only have one HK. I am looking for a job.
Get to work! You need these things!
Sensational review
Great video. Literally one of the best videos I’ve seen in a long time.
WOW! Thanks for taking the time to watch my content.
Got into HKs in 2001 yhis video is an excellent explanation of a series of pistols that is sometimes overwhelming(German) in their idiosyncrasies.
Well done.
An excellent informative presentation. In most of Germany, Hoch is pronoused with an "aw" sound, while the ch is pronounced in a manner which sounds like a soft cough or throat clearance, though there are regional variations.
Not in the German I learned. Besides… most “foreign” arms makers names take on a new pronunciation in the U.S. “CZ”, anyone?
Amazing review thanks, will check out your other videos.
Thanks man. I appreciate you watching my home made content.
I Cary either a P30 sks or a P30S. Ive competed with a P30L. My home gun is a HK 45. HKs are the guns I trust.
Same. Dont ever need to worry about them malfunctioning or anything. Just legendary. Plain and simple.
Awesome video!!!
Really like the HK episode! I’m a huge fan of the LEM trigger! The P30 and P30sk Brought back my love for HK not too long ago! And forced me to buy a p2000sk (3rd time) but with LEM and night sights it will become my main edc and P30 for when I need a bigger gun. Next on my bucket list is USP compact 9mm and p2000, want both with LEM but would buy USP compact 9mm da/sa I’d like to have both types of them, I’m done with Glocks and other brands and just going to focus on HKs going forward. Thanks for all this information! Great video!
Thinking about the VP9 match. Optics ready and nice trigger. For competition I will stick with CZ 😃
Loved this video. HK Life!
It's the only way to live!
Well done video, thank you
Good to know about that lazy wolf trigger for the VP9. I was looking into them just to have a flat face trigger.
Shoot, man. I would have stuck with the $560 purchase price of your VP9, plus the Heinie sights... Good to go!!!!
Anyway to each his own, I understand it's your hobby and you have some nice guns set up.
Wright armory does all my work! Love em
They are about to mill my USP full size for the iDot system with an RMRcc. I will make a video about the process.
@@DeFenderCo looking forward to it
Nice to see ya back! Loved the video as always
Thanks for being patient, and glad you enjoyed the content.
Awesome video thanks for ya time good stuff
Thanks for watching my homemade content.
Wow 🤩what a tutorial u nailed it all
Thanks for sticking it out for the full hour.
My EDC
Gun: H&K VP9
(LE edition in Urban Grey )
Lite/ Laser: Viridian C5L
Holster: Alien Gear 3.5 Cloak Tuck IWD made for the C5L set up
EDC Belt: Kore Essentles
Gun $550 (new)
C5L $225
Holster $50
Belt $65
$890 ready to rock & roll
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After 35 years in the firearms industry and LE as a instructor, I can say this is the BEST and most honest review I have seen. You are a very knowledgeable and don’t give yourself credit for the fine job you do.
I am so tired of the so called operator expert reviews. I tell most people to think about your environment you live in now, not the fantasy world. The HK is ideal for EDC as well as any hostile environment.
I'm humbled by your comment. Thanks for watching my channel.
Great Video! I have a v3 p30sk for EDC and an Olive Green Vp9 with fde cerekote slide, for home defense/range drills.
Love them both for what I use them for.
I'm Seriously looking at a long slide optic cut for my Vp9.
Again Great Video!
In Germany those guns cost 800€ except VP9 long slide which is 1200€ and HK USP long slide 1500 (short slide is 800), Glock, Walther, Beretta APX etc cost also around 800€, while Sig Sauer p226, or Bereta 92FS cost more around 1500€, I'll probably go with HK p30 and or a Glock 17 or 34.
If you don't already you really need to drive down the road to the SAR show from time to time. I'm in WA but go to it. Family in cave creek helps lol. Lots of great deals at the shows.
A lot of effort put into that video. Very much appreciated. I have a new VP9L with a HOLOSUN HE508T-GR Green Dot in Circle and love it.
Love the Holosun line up. How do you like the green over the red?
How's the reliability of the long?
Great video! I have a USP9 and a USP9c. Deciding between an expert or a Mark 23. But in the meantime I just like watching videos of how good a decision I made 🤣
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Get both! They are excellent
@@Jkan2001 timeline update : I did!
@@stevo5459 good lord, both? Small fortune there but totally worth it. I have a 9mm Expert and it’s easily my favorite pistol
I was on board with you until you said don't worry about carrying an extra magazine. Now, when it comes to HK, sure, you don't NEED a backup mag, but on lower end/high production firearms (Glock, SIG, Beretta, Kimber) you absolutely should have a spare mag JUST IN CASE you have a malfunction and need to throw the first mag away.
EDIT: I also got my VP9 for $400 with a case, all grips and only one mag. I also bought a Holosun EPS and TLR-7A gunlight at the same time for $200 for both; insanely good prices I couldn't walk away from. Oh, and the firearm light and greendot sight were new in box.
What you say is very true.. me and my dad (RIP) both went and plopped down the money for our own HK USPcompact 357sigs however the availability Was so far out for that the dealer offered us different pistols he took the 40 I took the 45 2 tone version perit I still have his 40 but have long since traded my 45. One of the considering factors was indeed the horrible trigger pull. My thinking was if I ever got into any altercation and injured my hand there was no way to pull that trigger double action
Let me tell you a bit about the cost of an HK in South Africa:
HK no longer import into SA, but you can get them via custom important with license.
Convert to USD and you would be paying around 2000USD with a few extra magazines.
Cost: you need to complete a course on the basic firearms act and one on self loading pistols (you would do the same for the other 3 firearm classes), cost of applying for a license.
Don't forget about spare parts as buckups, a safe to store your firearm as one is mandatory, ammunition and the cost to renew your firearm license every 5-10 years depending on what section you apply for.
Its all complicated but worth it. You can get any gun you want in any configuration and ammo capacity all over the country, just not full auto.
Feels like when I wanted to get a genuine 416 and paid through the nose for it. Glad you're able to get the products you want but the mark up has got to make you cry more than once.
@DeFenderCo yes, the mark-up is mad. The best affordable gun I can get that's not Glock with great support is Canik and CZ (among some others as well, like S&W, Sig Sauer, etc). But I'll always have a soft spot for HK
Excellent, very thorough video! You certainly know your stuff. The V4 CH (V4.1) LEM is worthy of mention. Friendly recommendation: Don't release the slide *at full velocity* without anything entering the chamber. It causes unnecessary stress and premature wear. Wilson Combat has a good video discussing this.
Premature wear? On a HK?
My dream gun out of the 24 ish guns I’ve owned has always been the p30l since before even John Wick haha. Finally got it NEW for $650 I think they priced it wrong because every other Hk was over 1 grand unless it was an sk the. They were $800 I’ve had 4 hks and had I not needed to sell most of my collection… I’d still have some dope and 1911s sig and Hk but alas I’m starting anew and the p30ls new for that price? Good start!
That’s a great price. I paid $ 715 back on 2/2020 for my P30L LEM. No regrets though.
Definitely getting a VP9L and a USP45 V1 already got a P30S V3 9mm 17rd and a P30sk V3 9mm for EDC
My VP9 is Gray paddle frame. My second choice would be Green.
Incredibly informative video! Outstanding job!
Welcome to the #HkMasterRace
The only time it's okay to be a racist.
Video is so well done. Thanks for making this.
Thanks for taking time to watch it and comment on it.
I have 2 out 3. HKs are straight quality.
I like my P30L. I just wish it had the same trigger as my Sig Legion p226.
Look into Gray Guns. They have excellent upgrades for the P30L trigger.
This is my first time watching any of your videos and certainly will be subscribing. Very well done. Like you, I lived in Arizona and was a police officer in Tucson. After retiring, I stopped shooting Glocks as much and jumped into the HK boat. I now have the HK45c in LEM with lazy wolf work, the HK USPc in .45, the P30L, P30, P30sk all in light LEM with gray guns short reset. The vp9 in bronze slide and the VP9sk. I totally agree that this is an extremely expensive collection that is growing all the time. Anyways, do you find yourself choosing the usp or the p30 line?
I adore my USP Expert, but I find it easier to do things with my P30L. Thanks for the sub!
My CZ P-10 C’s & F do the full (10 rounds for me in HI) magazine slide close as well.
Unfortunately the VP9 isn't pre $600 gun anymore lol. I was looking at them today and they ranged from $700 to just under $1k.
The most expensive pool you've ever swam in? Lol 2011 style platform puts that to shame. That said the HK pull is still very strong and a LTT P30L LEM optic ready is on my next grab list. Great video man. Thanks for sharing those premium pieces.
I mean, buying an out of the box HK is cheap compared to building a 416, a PSG-1, or a Tommy Built G36.
@DeFenderCo you got that right!! A true psg1 is probably tippy top of my grail list. Roller delayed never goes out of style.
I have the P30L V3 and I love it. It was my first gun but I’m not sure about the trigger. I heard Gray Guns make a great trigger for it. I was thinking about getting it. Is it really worth it?
I can't speak to the flat faced trigger, only the short reset kit which is a must have in my opinion.
Had the flat faced with the Gray guns short reset on a v3, ended changing it back to the stock trigger. The flat faced trigger is amazing in single action but sucks in double. But definitely get the short reset
Great video. Another unashamed HK fanboy here. I have to say it though, the condition of that range at 0.13 and 0.50 makes me sad.
Good news! We organized a clean up and it looks so much better. I felt the same way and made a rant about it in my Buy Once Cry Once episode 3 about people who trash public land.
Great video-accurate reviews of each model. I have a USP 9 Expert and want to put a red dot on it (necessity due to vision). What are your thoughts on milling the slide and do u have any companies you'd recommend? Thanks again
I prefer a milled slide over an optics ready slide. The only 2 companies I have used have been Parker Mountain Machine (super slow) and Wright Armory in Mesa, AZ (super fast).
What fiber optic front sight do you have on the K&K USP EXPERT? I have the jet fullel one in layaway and I want to replace the front sight with a proper height fiberoptic one if possible. Not sure what height is required to match the adjustable factory rear irons. Thanks!
I consider the p7 m8 and mk23 and spk5 or mp5 or something like that. Looks like we got a lot in common in choice haha
EXCELLENT HK tutorial . I switched from a sig P 320 because I heard all the horror stories about it .
You made a wise decision.
Great information! What suppressor do you have on your P30L?
How hard were those sights to install? Are you happy with them on the P30l?
I had Heinie install all the sites on my HK's. I don't want to mess up such an important part, so I ponied up the $50 in labor to have them do it at their factory in IL. I love them and can't recommend them enough.
That gun just looks 😍. 😭😭😭 own everything HK from playing video games hell yea. Oh those rainbow six Vegas days.
I used to be all about RB6 Vegas. That game was fun.
Wow very comprehensive video here with tons of info. Been looking to get an HK handgun for a while I just have such a hard time deciding between a USP compact, P2000, or P30 lol. I like the fact that the P2000 has a shorter grip and can be concealed more easily but other than that the ergos of the P30 are amazing. Always wanted a USP if for no other reason then I know that it’s the gun you take to hell and back if it hits the fan. Wish I could buy all of them eventually lol. I’ve seen a lot of the V3 DA/SA P30’s lately. Do you think the trigger in SA is just as good as the LEM? Can’t seem to find a LEM anywhere these days. Although some people claim that the LEM is just better all around, I guess I’m impartial but haven’t felt one in person yet as none of my local stores have any HK’s so I’d have to order one. Thoughts? If you could have a V3? Is the SA trigger pull really that bad?
I have 2 P30L models; my LEM in the video and a V3 undergoing some R&D work. The V3 SA mode is great, but the reset sucks. So if all you can find is a V3, grab it and put the Grey Guns short reset kit in it. I think you'll be pleased with it.
@@DeFenderCo yeah that’s what I’ve heard about the grey guns kit that it totally changes everything. Might need to look into that if I get one in the future. Hopefully soon! Good to hear that the v3 isn’t as terrible as some say. I’m not so worried about a heavy and long DA pull that’s kind of the point lol but for precision shots it would be nice to have a great SA pull. At least be able to hit targets at 25 yards or so hopefully that’s not asking too much from a pistol like this.
@@DIYDad1 You can hit 25 yards all day every day with the stock V3 SA mode. But if speed is your goal, the Grey Guns short reset kit is a must. The long reset in SA mode will cost you time on follow up shots.
What are the iron sights and red dot you used to have them aline just incase of a failed red dot?
Personally I like you talk and you did great homework,thank you for sharing! I will follow up, you are the best!
I'm humbled. I really appreciate you watching my channel.
I am looking to change my front sight on my USP Expert 9mm. What height/brand did you go with?
G3 is the name that the USA gave the rifle , original name is HK-93
Wow! I'm a new left-handed shooter who is sold on the VP9L OR. Throughout all the videos I've seen this is by far the most comprehensive video out there on the subject. I'm a CA resident so I will have to buy mine in a PPT, due it being off roster, but when I hear how much people buy to upgrade their guns (esp Glocks) after purchase it's well-worth the additional cost to know I'll be satisfied and am getting a quality product.
You won't be disappointed with any current HK pistol offering. they are really well made.