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#anime #paprika
Whenever I view Kon's work I'm left with a sadness that he's no longer with us. Who knows what else he could have created?
Same, 😔
Same
I came to know about his work after he passed away.
I was googling what his next work will be,just to see he's no more....
I wish he was able to finish the dreaming machine as his last masterpiece...
a silent hill movie, along side Kojima and junji ito.
>:D
@@LeonSKennedy7777 Humans will have been eliminated by then, making the concept irrelevant, unless robots are entertaining themselves...
Paprika is one of the best examples I can think of the power of animation. It's easier to conveyed the feeling of dreaming of conciousness and unconsioness merging together in anime than it would be on live action. This is why I think Inception is not that great of a movie, despite being inspired by Paprika, the "dream" world in that movie feels very tamed and unimagitive, Paprika's dream world on the other hand feels just as insane and over the top as my dreams are.
Thats on purpose, in Inception there is the role of the architect to keep the infiltrators and the dreamer in a controllable and somewhat safe environment.
I kinda found the opposite, wasn't too fond of Paprika's vision of the dream world because to me its too over the top, and not even in my wildest dreams I find myself in scenarios like that.
That's actually quite the problem of dreams in general, it's so personal, intimate and relative to people's mind that it's practically impossible to make something faithful to everyone.
The dreams we see in paprika can only be fully faithful to the people who made paprika...
For some peoples it's really far from what they dream, too over the top, too strange etc, or not enough, or just with opposite ambiance etc...
Like I'm a big dreamer, I do fucked up dream most of the time, extremely surreal and alien, semi horrific and magical at the same time, for me both paprika and inception are just not faithful to my dreams,
(like imagine if Cronenberg, hrGiger, Lovecraft, myazaki, drWho and Pokémon try to make a full length anime together, boom you got something close to my dreams...), but it's normal, that's quite the charm of those movies, they're other people's dreams, not mine (thank god).
@@lionheart4424 thats why both of them are so great, both different representations of different peoples minds and how they dream
@@chiaapet yeah, both great movies but I connected much more with Inception. Probably helped that I watched it on Theaters and that immersion is a dream layrer on itself.
The dream world in both movies is actually accurate visually, just not the rules for the dream world. And I don't see how inception was inspired by paprika at all
You need to watch tokyo godfathers to kill your satoshi kon fear.
Its my fave of his works. Nothing creepy, nothing scary. Pure wholesome comedy!
Hana is one of my top favorite characters, I love her so much. I love introducing people to Kon with that because the beginning never fails to make them go "what in the world are you having me watch" and as soon as Kiyoko comes in they lose it.
One of my friends pointed out that if you watch Hana as the credits are rolling there are quite a few "miracles" happening, we ended up making a game of counting and we keep losing count through the movie!
The editing in this Anime is one of the best editing of the history of cinema. The more you watch it, the more you see how genius it is!
I really loved this anime. But "Perfect Blue" is still the one that holds my heart's center.
dito!
The opposite happens to me
If I made a list of favorite films, Perfect Blue would get a GUARANTEED place in the top 5
Remember renting it as a kid not realizing what I was getting into..
Perfect Blue was an awakening to the fears of the real world.
Looks promising, I have to watch it!
You know things are about to get wild when you hear the Made In Abyss ost
Legit. 0 seconds in and I'm hyped hahaha
@@iamrichlol man know his stuff
@@iamrichlol This OST makes me sad
"Once upon a time, I dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. . . . Soon I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man." -Zhuang Zhou
I have not watched the movie and therefore do not know if the famous butterfly quote by Zhuang Zhou appears in it, but at 13:40 after hearing the dialogue and seeing the butterfly under Paprika on the table made me think about Persona 1 and that quote.
It's the question you ask trough the entire movie
Have you seen it yet? You NEED to see it.
...and Max hasn't even mentioned the parts of Kon's works that are about Japanese society. Makes them even more interesting and at the same time easier to understand.
Millennium actress by the same director is also fantastic, especially if you have an interest in classical japanese cinema
Such a gem this one!
All of his movies are great
I remember seeing Millennium actress at a anime Film Festival years ago and there was one of the saddest movies I have ever seen
As a fellow psych student whose been studying psychoanalysis, particularly Jung, for the better half of a decade, and who absolutely loves this film, I appreciate you putting this together. The content on this channel resonates. Keep it up and best of luck overcoming the monetization challenges.
Adore Satoshi Kon. Paprika is one of my faves alongside other notables like Akira, Perfect Blue, Wings of Honnêamise, and Porco Rosso. Thanks for this!
I feel that you might take alot home if you give Millennium Actress a shot. While Paprika and Perfect Blue showcases Kon's cailber as a story teller to tap into the psyche of humans. Millennium Actress is like a kaleidoscope peering back to one's memory through their own fictionalization and interpertation of it.
Also it might be cool for you to tap into Hirasawa Susumu and his impact on Satoshi Kon's and Miura's work too. I find it intriguing that both were avid fans of Hirasawa while both are prolific story tellers, and they both choose Hirasawa as their sound for their work. I view Hirasawa as one of the first true avantgarde musician in the japanese music industry and still to this day he helms that position.
I love all his work but Millennium actress might be my favorite.
This is one of two films I often suggest when the subject of dreams comes up. This film is definitely has both a purely entertainment value as well as those juicy deep concepts. If you’re finished this film and want something a little different, might I suggest **”Waking Life”**?
Waking Life is rotoscope style animation that takes a mindset to actually watch. It’s set up as a series of conversations as a young man discovers dreams through dreams. It is definitely more experimental and a bit longer (1h 41m) but definitely worth it for those who enjoy these topics
Waking Life! I second this suggestion
Max, you and the work you have done are simply amazing! I could not have fully understood Paranoia Agent and Perfect Blue without your videos. I had watched them and I loved them but something was missing. Your explanations gave me that something, so thank you so much! Paprika is one of my all-time favourites I can't wait to hear your thought on it. Thank you!
This was spectacular Max, extremely well done, sir!
The synchronicity when you announced this video was incredible.... then again, Mediational Field is always playing in the back of my mind, lol.
When i saw the Erebus in the closing scene i was like "Yeah, my favorite alchemy storytelling youtuber must have something in store for this".
Have you ever seen “Kuuchuu Buranko” (Flying Trapeze)? It’s an anime about psychoanalysis.
Each episode covers the troubles of a new patient undergoing treatment by a mysterious and otherworldly psychiatrist.
His Nurse is also extremely attentive; she’s the extra mile kind of lady. 😊
I love Paprika so much! Masterpiece of a movie!
Paprika is one of my top movies ever, animated or not. And it was my first encounter with Satoshi Kon, and I think I might have to watch it again, been several years.
Paprika so good
I love that film, every time I think about it I hear the soundtrack.
This is certainly Satoshi Kon's most overtly surreal film, and it's a great work no question about it. If this is your pick for trippiest anime, though, I'd be curious to know what you make of something like Kanashimi no Beradonna or Midori.
Beautiful analysis! Paprika is one of my all time favorite anime movies, extremely underrated and better than Inception. Indeed the whole point of Paprika is the process of individuation.
I loved watching this back when I was a little younger. Rewatching it recently was great.
Terrifying but great.
The only thing I would add would be a mention to the great OST that the film has, composed by Susumu Hirasawa himself.
This movie and Berserk's OST are what got me into Hirasawa.
I occasionally wonder what it feels like for Hirasawa to have worked with two different geniuses who died far too soon.
I'd almost feel cursed if I was in that position, honestly.
He actually wanted to put the parade into the video, but didn't because of the copyright system.
This was the first ever anime movie ive watched.
Good shit ❤
So basically Satoshi Kon is like neurotic surgery doctor still chatting with us about live issues while we're still meditating with open brain 🧠
Love Kon, but I hadn't gotten around to this one. Watched it for the first time when you posted your preview picture, and it was a lot of fun!
Serial Experiments Lain, anyone?
You called ? I come accompanied as you can see.
Amazing analysis. I watched it with my mother, who was understandably creeped out by the film (specifically the concept of being able to manipulate the dreams of others).
On a different topic, I would suggest (though you don't have to) watching and reading Land of the Lustrous, as it has a lot of elements of psychology and Buddhism in it.
Anyway love your videos. I'm tempted to read more about philosophy and psychology now.
Great choice for the soundtrack! Mirrors edge OST is god tier.
The irony of Satoshi Kon's work being so shocking to Max is that learning that he made a film that's very deliberately NOT shocking will become shocking in and of itself.
And now my head hurts.
Damn it, now my head hurts too
Max, I just watched this for a film class and you seeing the Jung in this made me joyous. Thank you for this rad interpretation.
I have an exam of psychology soon and i just studied Freud's thesis on dreams today, how funny.
I really loved the intro. Really a lot to think about.. wish you would have continued ..
This has inspired some ideas for my music now... Thanks... uh, internet?
The movie is amazing! I recommend the book as well. It’s a bit darker and more serious. I like the way it ends a lot.
Paprika was an excellent use of the medium. It's in the same league as Christopher Nolan's Inception in terms of writing but it being anime instead of film gives it so many freedoms to explore where Inception was bound by real world physics and budgeting.
I saw this film ages ago and it remains to be one of my favorites to this day. It needs no update, sequel, reboot, remastering; it's a timeless materpiece.
Great video as usual, Max
Satoshi Kon was a genius, really sad that we lost him
I literally watched Perfect Blue for the first time last night and I wake up and see you posted this! Unreal timing!
Great video, one of my favorite movies and i just rewatched it a month back in the cinema for the first time in a festival, this is a good comemoration of Paprika and Satoshi Kon 🥳 He did create some manga too, maybe you'd like to give it a read.
Animation is his best work but i like his manga work too😊
hell yeah one of the few movies I've actually bought digital because I want it available all the time to watch.
The symbolism and animation are mind-blowing 🤯🤯🤯
One of the most impressively animated movies of all time but just very trippy
My favorite youtuber talking about one of my all-time favorite fictional works‽ Hell yes!
So real. I wish there were more works like this! When life gives you lemons and refuses to take them back: make lemonade! When your shadow self keeps bugging you: let him be a part of the conversation! when your stomach is full of butterflies, and you’ve been biten by a love bug: embrace the dream-like allure of Limerence! I’m reminded of Odin from Norse mythology and his way of coping/controlling fate or ragnarok (at least in god of war) by keeping it all as close to himself as possible, not rejecting or running away from fate, but preemptively facing it so as to be able to understand it and have more “control” over where it happens, except as I’ve implied, its usually a last resort, some things are in the dark for a reason. Some urges deserve to be repressed! it’s all about balance, avoiding what you can and accepting what you can’t. Even if it takes a while to figure out which is which…
I love this film, well, I love all of Kons films but this one is a particular departure from the tone of most of his other works. One of the things I thought was really interesting was how Christopher Nolan lifted whole sections of PAPRIKA and put them in INCEPTION. Imitation, homage or inspiration? Nolan borrowed heavily from PAPRIKA no matter what you call it, but PAPRIKA is still the better film.
Have you watched Kon's other movie where reality and fiction blend?
Millennium Actress.
A movie biography of an actress. Wonderful work ♥ I am a big fan of Kon.
I'm excited to hear your take on this. I wonder if you make the connection that Paprika's story is Paradise Lost.
And taking Jung's theories to heart, the only way to integrate one's psyche is by the union of opposites, his Misterium Coniunctionis. Thus individuation occurs.
I saw Paprika a few years ago. Weirdest thing I've ever seen. It funny to think that I've done what that movie was trying to teach. I have a lot of religions trauma from growing up in a Christian family. I never quite fit into their world, and they made that fact very clear to me. I ended up with the belief that I was a demon for a very long time in my life. I almost lost my family and probably my life because of that belief. Over time my anger and hatred grew too much to bare. I began to hate the world and humanity. My trauma had taken the form of a wrathful, violent, demon or oni. I realized that I am the oni, that I've lost my humanity and I'm never getting it back. It was a very painful thing to except. But now I feel more complete. I now have a greater understanding of who I am. Now I feel like I can move forward.
I'm not sure if you read many fiction novels, but I'd like to recommend looking up Zod Wallop by William Browning Spencer. It would have made an EXCELLENT Kon film. While events do deal with a merging of consciousness between a group of people, and there's a fair bit of fantastic imagery bleeding over into real life, the focus is largely on processing grief and healing from loss, so it may not shake you quite so deeply as some of Kon's films. It's been a personal favorite since I first came across it. (And if you are uninterested, then at least this will be another interaction treat for the algorithm.)
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. A lot of the anime you've discussed are favorites of mine, and I enjoy seeing more content for them.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Great movie, great video. Praised be the memory and legacy of Satoshi Kon, who unfortunately leave us too soon.
Paprika it's one of my favorite animated movies, I love it's flow and the whole concept art. It was a time of talks about dreams and the nature of dreams. The Cell, with Jennifer Lopez also has a similar approach of a scientific breakthrough to the unconscious by some mechanical wonder.
Keep up the good work, Max!
I have not seen parika yet but I know Inception took inspiration from this film. Basing on this video alone, I can see the similarities.
mass effect 3 - Normandy Galaxy Map music, amazing :D, good choice of music
Lets fucking GOOOOOOOOO
I remember pirating Paprika when it was first released in English. I'd never seen any of Satoshi Kon's other films, and my only experience with anime was what I could find on non-cable TV (Pokemon, Sailor Moon, etc.). I didn't really understand this film at the time, but watching it and seeing what the art form could DO was transformational.
I saw Chiba and Paprika as a left brain and right brain dynamic.
Yeeeeesss! Incredible incredible film. One of my personal favorites ever, enough can't be said about this masterpiece.
I love your videos, in addition to jung and freud, there are also a lot of points that make me think of Marie-Louise Von Frantz and paul watzlawick.
Had the privilege to watch in a theater.
Another great deep dive.
@maxderrat As someone on the Spectrum and an anime fan myself, I love all these videos analyzing anime from an AS perspective!!!!! Have you ever seen any of Violet Evergarden (either the TV series or movie; the former precedes the latter)? That anime is a super fascinating one to look at through the lens of ASD cause of how it depicts what it's like to learn and feel really complex social emotions that are multifaceted and hard to understand from an AS perspective (I literally cried multiple times while I was watching it). There's also a superb live action film from last year called You Won't Be Alone directed by Goran Stolevski that reminds me of what the internal experience of being on the Spectrum more than almost any other piece of media.
Ooooooh! I LOVE Paprika!
Paprika gives hard perfect blue vibes. Just googled him, same guy makes a lot of sense. He doe's realistic human perspective very well especially when it comes to the more evil or confusing parts of humanity. Also does anyone else remeber this being a dvd 2 pack with another anime movie, the only scene i remeber is its a teen girl with a gun in a bathroom stall going to kill someone, i feel like it's called angel wing or something like that. Halp.
Paprika is one of those movies you have to watch multiple times, because the first couple of times you don't understand WTF is going on, and it takes at least 5 rewatches to comprehend.
And if you're not careful, it could lead to some brain-breaking dreams.
Made in abyss music 👀, I hope that wee get some content of that series 🙏🏻
I really want a DreamCast Mini....It could have Sword of the Berserk!
Damn best intro ever🔥🔥🔥
Underrated channel ❤❤ so good
Hope content about manga
That anime is something else.
Love the mass effect music in background
Howdy!!! :3 ahhh I'm first, wild! That's a first for me! Lol love yer videos Max, always worth a rewarch once in a while, while I wait for more videos!
It's ironic how the psychological ideas displayed in this film themselves are closer to comforting lies than hard truths. Metaphors in symbolism themselves are reflections of reality altered to be easier to comprehend and potentially less scary than the real thing. The quality of a metaphor or symbol depends on its ability to be extended or parallel reality and this is where the flaws in psychoanalytics really show.
The first comforting lie of psychoanalysis is the assumption of opposites all the perceived existence of binaries. This is not to say there are never binaries it's just that even among the examples provided it's not that simple. Sometimes it makes sense to see two things as opposites but that is a mental shortcut to make understanding the world easier. A simpler perspective is less work to consider and passable most of the time.
Light and dark light is not merely defined by brightness but also by color. Now you might think that's irrelevant to the metaphor but it isn't in fact adding color adds to it. Because we're talking about human minds here perspective is going to vary and how light or dark something is depends on what colors you are capable of seeing. You might think that the sky between the stars is dark but you wouldn't think that if you could see microwaves and humans are bioluminescent but only if you can see infrared. In fact, if you start adding color even if it's just the visible light spectrum you can actually start to take the light and dark metaphor literally in cases of people with synaesthesia.
Male and Female
Sure males and females are different genders but they're not different enough to fit the definition of opposites. (Completely different) Among humans, there is not any complete difference. The spectrum that has male and female humans on opposite ends of it breaks the second you consider the inhuman, the animal, the alien, or the artificial intelligence. The minute you consider sentience yet an inhuman perspective and the boundless theoretical and existing variety of that perspective the idea that humanity has access to both opposites becomes absurd. Of course that would make humanity as a whole feel less important and perhaps that's why people are afraid of AI, aliens, or the possibility that animals are sentient. However, in regard to animals, there is already what humanity's collective cruelty to them says about humanity to be content with.
Reality and dreams
Dreams are not the opposite of reality. They're not fundamentally detached from it. Even psychoanalysis admits that they do reflect reality albeit in a metaphorical and seemingly random way. There's also scientific evidence that hearing a noise when dreaming even if it is insufficient to wake you can cause that noise to be heard in a dream. The true opposite of reality would be a delusion so complete that every aspect of it has been imagined independently lived experience. This true opposite might be impossible but that just proves the point that seeing these examples as opposites leads to misunderstanding the very thing that they are meant to be metaphors for misunderstanding the thing being used as a metaphor.
Conscious and Unconscious
Conscious and unconsciousness do appear to be opposites until you consider things that you're not aware of at all either consciously or unconsciously. So unconsciousness is merely the middle ground between awareness and obliviousness. But in terms of mental models used to describe consciousness and unconsciousness psychoanalytic likes to get silly and draw an iceberg with the bits below the waterline being unconscious in the bits above the waterline being conscious. When for most things there is no waterline it's both and therefore union between consciousness and unconsciousness isn't mystical it's mundane. Every time you learn something new your unconscious listens and encodes. If you have a very good memory then you'll be able to recall it without thinking. Even if you don't have a good memory things that you are aware of and things that you are not aware of are interacting in amazing ways all the time. Therefore unifying these two is just a case of doing what you're already doing just in a less maladaptive way. Union is not the hard bit the hard bit is knowing which bits to unify. For example, you would not want to make every sensory experience that your body processes unconsciously conscious at least not on a permanent basis. Because if your typical person were to do that they would find themselves with the sensory issues of autistic people. Exactly what needs to be unified and how is obviously going to depend on the exact case in question that is exactly why and if unity is even helpful under the circumstances those details of the hard bit.
But the thing that I most dislike about psychoanalytic is the idea coming to terms with reality is painful. So painful in fact that some people would rather die than learn. I don't dislike this idea because it isn't true I dislike it because it suggests that painful self-reflection is the only kind and that the non-painful kind is not preferable. Although I might just be misinterpreting it. What psychoanalytic fails to mention is the possibility that self-reflection might be fun or that it can actually be made fun. If you're autistic the solution is simply usual special interest or interests as metaphors if you're near typical you're just going to have to be curious.
i think the character paprika is more like a dream sheperdess like the oracle in the matrix
This movie is the film that got me into psychological themed anime so i quite like it, that and i can hear the parade music again.
Keep the content going! I just found your channel and you one of the best at what you do!
Loved the mass effect music.
Gotta love the Mirrors Edge ost in the background ❤
that's one of the deepest movies of all times, not to mention that the animation is next level. I miss Satoshi Kon....
I found the point about the unconscious integrating with the conscious to be a really interesting point. I'm caught, on the one hand, the unconscious is like unfiltered reality, on the other, the conscious is heavily filtered reality. Both sides of this coin can get it horribly wrong. But in the end we find that the solution in Paprika is a kind of deliberate connection with everything. The unconscious, conscious, and world outside your brain all in connection, and through that, the clarity to overcome the obstacle in front of you.
Woo! It got uploaded!
I relate to the protagonist and her alterego Paprika in a way, including the antagonists
I didn't fully understand the antagonist's goal though. Did they wish to see the machine destroyed because they were afraid of someone seeing their inner side ? And later, why did they accept plunging the world into chaos ?
Honestly this movie doesnt make much sense. They never explain paprikas existence which is fine, but they should at least touch on the matter. We knew exactly what caused little slugger, we knew exactly why mima was having lapses in her psyche. But paprika was completly unexplained as to why the main character has an alter ego. Even her dynamic with her alter ego was inconsistent.
And the romance at the end makes no sense.
@@Shadow666_ her alterego is her wishes, repressed feelings and how she perceives herself mixed with parts she wished to possess.
The romance...it was a repressed wish of hers, which is why we never saw it developed. I think she loves him because of his goofy and hopeful personality mixed with his determination. As a psychiatrist, I guess she learned to look beyond the looks and focus on the personality alone.
@@JabamiLain Near the end Paprika told chiba to leave tokita behind. Why would her "repressed" side want to abandon him, but her other side wants the opposite all of a sudden?
Tokita doesnt even really like her, he said in the dream world and the waking world he prefered paprika. Which makes sense because all chiba ever does is physically and verbally abuse him.
And you cant really say she ever accepts paprika into herself because paprika still exists seperately from her.
The antagonists were very one dimensional and their goals didnt really make much sense. Which was really dissapointing considering how fleshed out and well utilized the characters in perfect blue and paranoia agent are.
Idk this movie was just really weak. Everything it tried to do was done leagues better in perfect blue and paranoia agent. Even the basics of characters and storytelling just never really came together in paprika.
@@Shadow666_well, I did say "Perfect Blue" was the movie that held my heart's center.
But by the way, don't teenagers with a crush sometimes say and do...things against the people they crush on, especially when they feel heart brokened ?One of the points made in the movie seems to be how childish most of the main characters truly is, and how that reflects mostly in their unconcious side. In Chiba's case, she seems to behave like a know it all teenager, perhaps heart brokened over how he fell for her alterego instead of her. Or simply using her power position to do the already mentioned...things on her crush.
Also, Paprika is both Chiba's idealized and self hated version (her unconcious in other words), which means she's pretty much her repressive agent, besides her being repressed personalities. I suppose Paprika wanted to leave him behind because she was trying to have Chiba keep those feelings locked inside.
That, or she could be playing reverse psychology in order to get Chiba to come out regarding her feelings. That looks like something Paprika would pull off.
There's also the possibility that since each seems to represent the two sides of the human brain and reality around them was crumbling, that each woman was picking on each other's traits.
These are my interpretations.
@@Shadow666_indeed I can not. Shame.
As for the villains, maybe not 1 dimensional. I'd say they're 2 dimensional at least, given their meaning to each other, the fact we don't know which one is the alterego and which one is real, and the implications behind their fantasies.
We were given a window into his dream.
I always love watching this movie every few months
I love Paprika so much
I like the mass effect music in the background
This reminds me of the movie The Cell with Jennifer Lopez. Edit: Worth noting Paprika red color and red head as a symbolic female like a comet. On the topic of dreams then looking at archetypes, on top the pineal gland with the production of DMT. As for ending would say to work in harmony like the alchemical wedding.
Ah Paprika, watched it many times just like Ergo Proxy. Its so good.
Trippy indeed.
I hope you see this one day Max...
Not sure if this belongs here, but I would LOVE to hear your take on the 'Big O' series!
Satoshi Kon , what a fucking legend
That parade scene is amazing.
Big fan i love your content ❤❤❤❤ huge support !!!!!
There should be more movies about lucid dreaming, preferably ones that strive for accuracy. I think lucid dreamers should also be hired to work on these movies.
I think creative industries need more lucid dreamers in general. Hollywood has gotten very creatively bankrupt and people who pay more attention to their dreams have higher creativity and can even use their dreams to inspire more creative ideas. Often times dreams do tell better stories than most movies or tv shows
Speaking of dreams. I’m really looking forward to your analysis of The Longest Journey. It definitely worth it.
Please, do a video about Platinum End!
Please do On the silver globe next!
Glad I waited to finish this until watching. Excellent film.
I can always rely on Max whenever I see something and I ask myself :
"What the fuck did I just watch?"