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You got my like at “Hello there”
Me: General Kenobi
We were pleasantly surprised to see your video!! Welcome back and looking forward to the next!!
Always a pleasant surprise to see a video from you.
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Long time, No see! Good to see you back. :)
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there's a video where he does
@@aaronestevezxd what is that video?
Really good breakdown and comparison. I have the Sigma, and seeing the Sirui comparison is extremely useful. The Sirui definitely has that extra something in the way it renders; I love the Sigma, although sometimes it's a little clinical. The Sirui has character, but isn't overly soft like some other anamorphic options or vintage lenses. I could easily use the 35 and 50 for a lot of productions, narrative or even documentary.
The Sirui has a square element so the bokeh won't be properly oval - why not trying to add a pro mist or perlescent filter onto your lens?
Hey Chris, great video!!!
Great Review, great footage!
You're back!
First of your videos I come across and I'm only 2 minutes in, but already like it cause it's not that common these days, that someone can admit when he did something wrong and apologize for it. :)
I just love this lens flares
Thanks Chris!
Can you make a video about getting sony A6400 or the Newer A7SIII colors on the A6500?
Great video buddy.
"And catch you guys in the next one."
Yes, yes yoh will.
Thanks for the video. Glad to see you still around.
Keep up the great work.
You seemed a bit "calm?"
Anyways: great to see you back.
Might just have been me working back into making videos again. It's been a while
Great video. I wanted to pick up the 24mm, but it was too expensive for me at the moment. The 35 is $100 cheaper at my store so might pick up that one. I do talking heads and b-roll and I really like the look of this!
Many thanks
Hi I just bought a Sirui anamorphic 35mm f1.8 and my camera is Panasonic GH5 and also I have Viltrox speed booster EF-M2II ( used typically for Sigma 18-35mm ). So Sirui offers an ef-mount adapter for their 35mm anamorphic. Will this work to combine 35mm anamorphic mft converted and mounted on ef speed booster and then mounted on GH5?
And if yes how good or bad will be the results?
Thank you
Hello, can you share how desqueeze or the best ways to do it. l know in premiere you can interprete footage, but not all the time is perfect.
Great comparison! But at 8:11 I did not understand if the focus at Sigma's closest distance is the same as Sirui's (0.85m) or (0.30m). Thanks
Very helpful
Will i get the same wide screen effect with a 24mm lens that will crop videos to 21:9?
and if you re-drill the mount to 90º, would it be a (fake) OPEN GATE? in this case to have a larger margin for vertical videos...?!
great video, love the 21:9
I’d love for you to compare the Sony 35mm F1.8 OSS Vs the new Sirui 35 Anamorphic.
instant liked seeing "Hello there"
From what I understand, you're more or less right on both accounts of history: In order to compete with TV, film studios were indeed using anamorphic to get wide ratios like 2.35:1. But also, one of the popular wide ratios--which is now one of the 2 main ratios used in Hollywood cinema--was 1.85:1, which is achieved by shooting spherical with a camera that projects the image sideways onto Super 35mm (film frame + sound strip). Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
Actually what you're talking about is VistaVision where the 1.85:1 image is filmed sideways at 8 perf. This was used on several films which achieved less film grain and a sharper image however at higher cost. Instead, most 1.85:1 spherical films are filmed horizontally just like 2.35:1 at 4-perf. Most of the time, 1.85:1 are filmed full frame at 1.33:1 and matted later.
Very nice review, very nice lens :D
Awesome review! Does the lens ship as M4/3? Great price for a first anamorphic 👏👏
Hey - great video! - Does this lens have hard stops on the focus ring?
It does stop spinning at minimum focus and just beyond infinity focus.
Excellent
Achromatic Diopter...I think that's the correct spelling...great review..
Excellent video, just subscribed. Thanks for your work!
So there is no EF mount available right? Do you, or anybody else, know a way to screw them on my Canon and Blackmagic camera’s?
Black magic has mft mount right? If so then this does come in an mft option.
Christopher Burress Yes, but I meant the BMPCC 6k with EF mount 🙂
Good stuff
Recently purchased it
Hey guys ! Quick question. I own a gh5 so whathat is the Full Frame equivalent of this 35mm on m4/3 ? Can't be 70mm right ?
It is 70mm. 52mm for the width.
Hey Chris, loving the 35mm comparison video. I don't think any other big creators had done so to date.
I was wondering if you'd be able to compare the frame of a Full-Frame 35mm to the Sirui 35mm APS-C next~ I'm curious to see how much that stretch factor actually helps for the relative frame/composition size on the horizontal axis.
That's a good idea. I have several additional anamorphic comparison videos I want to do. I have some product video obligations to knock out first. But I am exited to try all of the ideas!
@@ChristopherBurress Sure! I'll be waiting, my dude!
Hi Christopher. Congratulations, very good video. I'd love to see a video comparing the fields of view AND depth of field (bokeh) between the sigma 18-35 at 35mm (which you already did) and at 26mm cropped VS the SIRUI 35.
That's coming up in a future video!
So where is it? 🤔
Didn't end up happening. Best laid plans and all....
Hahaha, but it would be nice if you at least post a side by side comparison photos somewhere... Idk, I really like the lens but I think It's not totally worth it because I can just crop top and bottom on 26mm on my sigma and have a better (much better) minimum focusing distance. However, Sirui would have less DOP, so IDK, it would be a nice comparison, haven't seen it anywjere in CZcams or forums. And you could do it as well with the 50mm vs 35 cropped and the upcomong 24 vs 18mm cropped. The Sirui lenses match almost perfectly (cuz 50= 37 actually) horizontal view of the sigma 18-35 and would be AMAZING to compare the 3 lenses with their equivalent focal lenth on the sigma.... I don't know... Think about it.. I would wathc that video over and over again lol
I've got the 24mm on hand. I do want to do the video you requested. The end of the year just gets crazy for me. More videos on the way definitely going to happen, maybe with all 3 lenses in the same video.
The SLR magic anamorphic lens is 2x, not 1.33x though?
You're right, I missed that.
So to get a wide view from an non anamorphic lens like 34mm do we have to use 26(34/1.33)mm then crop top & bottom part
That's right.
You'll get a similar picture, but not the same, since the light rays are broken a bit different due to the shape of the lense elements.
@@luckyqualmi I am unable to understand it? Please explain
When it comes to their professional products, Sony has always tried to be with what makes sense rather than adding unnecessary trends while focusing on long time user experience and longevity.
Hi Chris nice to see you back, I guess that you don't live from your You Tube videos
No, plenty busy doing other things that's for sure.
I never actually noticed the anamorphic lens flares or oval bokeh in movies before I got into videography. So I would assume 99% of people watching movies don't care or even notice. Great review though!
I'm sure most don't explicitly notice them, but I think people subconsciously notice them, which is why it makes the footage seem so movie like. Just like how 24fp is "cinematic". People associate the look with full movie production.
Good video you have subscriber!
If you're watching this video we're running on a budget right? ❤️ dude, you get me 😂
What did you use to get that cgi shot?
Fluid head and some rods. I did a video a while back about it.
I want the 35mm E mount
Can i use it with canon sl2?
no
So I did some calculations based on your image, and it seems that the Sirui 35mm can cover up to 1.35x on a full frame sony camera. On a camera like the A7S III, which doesn't have enough pixels to crop in without sending you to 1080p resolution, it's best to shoot with the vignette, and then reframe as required in post. For that to work without issues, if you're moving the camera, it's best to turn off IBIS.
The a7s series is too low of resolution to maintain 4k. However on the a7iii and a7r series you can maintain 4k with the crop.
@@ChristopherBurress This is why I wrote that you need to shoot WITH the vignette on an A7SIII, and reframe in post. 90% of my shots are reframed when I edit anyway, so for me this is not an issue. I rather get the most I can get.
@@EugeniaLoli very much appreciate the calculation! Strongly thinking about this lens, however I'm concerned about using it on A7S III. Would you think it would hit the resolution too hard, e.i. when matching later with the rest of the 4k footage? (shooting with vignette/re framing in post, or with clear zoom).
@@filipkisza9178 No, 4k will take it fine. In Hollywood, they reframe 4k footage all the time and they punching it in hard. Still looks fine. Remember, narrative films are supposed to be soft, not ultra sharp. Only youtube and corporate videos have this bad habit of making everything razor sharp.
@@EugeniaLoli cheers! :))
Can you use a macro extension tube to compensate for the lack of minimum focus? There probably would be a big crop, which defeat the purpose of a 35mm, but can it be done as an option anyways?
Good question. I'll have to try it out
Use thread on diopters to shorten the minimum focus distance. Inexpensive and easy. Can be used on any other lens as well.
I wonder if that effects the anamorphic properties.
Christopher Burress I’ve used them on my SLR magic anamorphic adaptor and also a DIY 2X projector lens conversion. Have never noticed any issues. Just like adding any other filter really. It may help in some instances as some anamorphic lens designs change squeeze (a little) as focus changes. Thanks for the video CB. Lens seems awesome!
Great video Chris !thanks a lot!
Any guess how it would on SonyA7 s iii ?
It doesn t have ACS mode
You will be able to crop 2160p and get like 1600-1800p resolution, so a lot more than 1080p. It should serve you well, but there will be vignetting.
@@ChristopherBurress
Not possible to avoid vignetting?
Thanks for a reply!🖒
Not really unless there is a super35 option on that camera. Which will reduce your footage to 1080p
@@ChristopherBurress
Chris but guys saying SonyA7siii doesn t have APS mode for cropping,how it will work on that new camera?
I made already a pre-order
You can crop in post production.
I wish I understood how clear image view is working? Presumably you're putting the lens on an A7 and then shooting midway between full frame and APS-C. Or am I way out? Thanks for this. They really are giving this lens a good go. Respect. Hopefully this will have the effect of encouraging others to join the party at an equal or more attractive price point.
You are exactly right about clear image zoom. Because the number of pixels on the sensor is greater than what is needed for 4k you can use a smaller area of the sensor, therefor zooming in, and still retain 4k resolution. This is a feature built into most newer sony cameras.
@@ChristopherBurress I saw a video on clear zoom v crop, and the definition suffered in almost every case. However, shoot full frame, expand to the edge of vignette and then reduce the image for HD broadcast and.... Did you just say the same?
What camera was this shot on
The sony a7iii
8:08 Your head is wider on the Sirui, why is that?
Maybe the lens distortion, it looks like I may be a little closer to the camera on the siuri images too. I just opened the pics again and applied the lens correction on the sigma lens and it did widen my face to some extent.
great video as always man! let's shoot sometime 🙌🏽
If you need to pick one, 35mm or 50mm? I hear the colours and bokeh, as well as weight are different
The 35mm is bigger and heavier. You will probably get more background blur with the 50mm. I've got a comparison video coming out soon.
@@ChristopherBurress Great, will look forward to it!
0:22 "General Kenobi"
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I need one for my r5
Alas, believe it or not, it seems that the image circle size of the 35mm Sirui lens has drastically REDUCED. The negative impact? A user can no longer use 1.2x Sony Clear Image Zoom to get the wider angle of view on A7 full frame camera. I just bought one copy from B&H hoping to 'copy' what you have done: using it on my Sony A7r. What I found was that I had to use 1.8x Clear Image Zoom to get rid of the dark corners, so that is the SAME (or worse than) as putting it in the APSC mode+extra 1.2x digital zoom. If one were to put on the Sirui using the full frame mode, they could see an almost perfect circle on the view screen, which, to me, is very much close to a joke! The only positive side I could think of is that it still functions as a true anamorphic lens but with no extra benefits of using it on an FF camera. So in conclusion, the 35mm Sirui lens given out to CZcams testers to evaluate 2 years ago are no longer available from retailers, and what are now available could be some very different lenses (i.e. strictly m4/3 image circle ), and I believe many potential buyers might not know this.
Tip of the hat for correcting yourself!
Does it cover s35 or ff?
S35
@@ChristopherBurress is there with EF or PL mount?
No ef. Just mft, e mount, and maybe fuji
most time cheaper than better 🤔
anyway thanks for 😉😉
But... But i came for the blue lens flares!
They made an appearance
You should rent a Cooke Anamorphic lens and do a comparison, obviously the Cooke will won but by how much?
I need to look into what that would cost.
Legend has it that he has never smile before
makes me sad no fuji mount
he looks everywhere except the camera
Working on it.
@@ChristopherBurress oh man now I feel mean
It was a great video by the way
No lol you're not mean, it's just part of the process, Ive been trying to script my videos to make my life a little easier and I just upgraded to a teleprompter so I should be able to look at the camera and read at the same time. Upgrades people, upgrades!
General kenobi!
9:30 I'm not so sure everybody loves these lens flares. Many viewers won't notice them at all due to all the additional CGI these days and us cinematographers often do not like these flares at all. Some of us even blame a certain colleague for using them way too often thus making them accepted in the industry in the first place. ;)
But cinemascope is older than all of our colleague haha, the industry actually make it first to influence your colleagues
How to remove it
We’re running out of budget, right 🤣🤣🤣
Its soft...and if you add ND filter your details are gone....hmmm
For me anamorphic is not the lens flares but vertically stretched bokeh. The 1.33X factor is not strong enough for 70's films look.
A 2x stretch would be great.
I wonder what it would cost from a company like sirui.
@@ChristopherBurress Even if it was 2x the price, it would still be worth it, assuming quality was the same
Who came up with that name Anamorphic? Cool name.
I'd buy that lens in an instant if not for that blue light streaking. That blue tint is just so fucking artificial.
I thought this lense suitable for my fhising video....extra wide 21 : 9 like in real movie,,,
Sigma 18-35 is not a video lens tho. Both don't stand a chance against CN-E 35mm T1.5 and that's one of the cheapest options if you're on a market for a real cine lenses. For youtube is OK tho.
I'm selling my 50mm brand new $125 off. who wants to buy?
Very cheap 700$
You're right, go buy the cheaper anamorphic lens. Send me a link BTW, I want to check it out.
$750 is cheap lol
Compared to ramen noodles, nah, compared to a Lamborghini, yeah.
Man, just when you seemed to get it right on the Historical front, you blow it by comparing Spherical and Cylindrical optics designed for entirely different purposes.
There IS NO Comparison!
But they both exist, therefore they can be compared.