Prusa MK3s Pick and Place Extension [3D printed] 👌
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- My Pupiplex Push to Pick and Place Extension invention for 3D printers.
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After I installed 81 LED chips by hand, I thought that it should be a better way for this. So I took my 3D printer and printed an extension for it, which makes the job for me. That's what machines are for, aren't they?
I have not seen such solution anywhere before, that is why I call it as an invention. Thought about to patent it, but I end up to publish it so that you can use the idea for your DIY projects.
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Content:
0:00 Intro
0:30 PCB, Stencil
0:48 Requirements
1:35 Heureka
1:53 Design
2:03 AutoFull gaming chair presentation
2:26 3D printing and assembly
3:50 First tests
4:21 Installation onto the 3D printer
4:50 PCB and LED Jig
5:00 Prusa slicer setup, G-Code generation
5:26 Custom Start G-code
6:02 Pupiplex in action
7:06 Time run
7:35 Results and quality check
8:21 AutoFull gaming chair assembly
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It wouldn't matter if was the same speed or even a little slower. The fact that you don't have to place any of them means you could be doing other things like setting up the next run. This is the perfect kind of hack for a 3D printer.
Not only that, but you should be able to *easily* extend the jig to handle at least two boards at a time. Also, additional printers can be had pretty cheap.
And they might be aligned a lot more precisely to give a cleaner image
This! The main advantage of automation isn't about being faster, it's about needing less operators for more work 😁
Amazing. What strikes me is the simplicity of the entire mod.
no electronic mods, no vacuum pumps, nothing that would require you to modify the 3d printing capabilities.
simple and effective.
Exactly that was my goal! Thanks!
Really good and cheap solution.
This fills the gap between dedicated machine and manual placing.
Nothing for volume but perfect for any bigger hobby project.
Feel your self patted on the back.
Excellent build.
And thinking outside of the box to get the excellent results was very impressive.
This should be what CZcams recommends.
But instead it recommends garbage 99.9% of the time.
You my friend have a new subscriber 😀😀
Now somebody just needs to make a slicer that maps a PCB file + a file containing position of components in a component tray into the motion required for this tool head. Combine that with a jig that clamps onto the bed in order to make short work of zeroing the PCB & component tray relative to the expected gcode positions more quickly and you could quite easily optimize the setup process for a larger variety of PCB designs. Throw in a bit of linear advance and other 3D Printing tricks and you could even shave off time from the actual execution.
DIY PCB machines might become practical enough to make add-on kits for some 3d printers (I'm thinking in the same vein as the Ender Extender kit for the Ender 3) as like a rapid prototyping tool for PCB designers (Which would probably be used in unison with a CNC capable of making DIY PCBs, or one of the other methods of fabricating DIY PCBs).
Edit: Now that I think about it, it would probably be better to make it an add-on for a CNC with a tool changer instead of a 3D Printer. Although, I think the gcode PCB mapping software I described above would still be applicable.
Exactly! This video just shows the base working principle which could be expanded to a complete product. Let's see if I could manage it to develop further.
that is a great pick and place machine. Perfect for small projects at home. Well done!
Absolutely incredible man. People like you increase my degrading hope for the future of mankind. Very impressed by this!
Love the minimal look of your desk.
Super cool and inspiring ! Thanks for sharing your projects.. looking forward to see more :)
I need this.
Looks like I'm going to be referencing this video a lot to recreate it. Thank you, awesome work!
Wow amazing ingenuity bud!! Great idea for replication production value!! Love it!
Ideas like this can help change the future, great job and subbed!
What a great mod! Definitely going to do something like this in the future. Might even be a great use for an old cheap 3D printer I have that was never good at printing anyways!
Very impressive! Well done!
Nice build, Dombi 👍
Great Work!!! Love the innovation you exhibit!
You are absolutely brilliant kind CZcamsr. Absolutely genius thanks! Been wanting this how to for awhile
That idea is amazing! I would surely stole it for a project i have in mind 🤣 what a great idea! You are a genius!!
Brilliant suction device!
Brilliant, congratulations !!
Self done is well done.... Excellent work
I wish I had skills like you man
This is incredible
Amazing SMD pick and place 3D printer 🥰
Excellent and creative, thanks for sharing.
Brilliant by simplicity, did you share the design?
Dude, brilliant!
That is awesome. I want this!
Nice works
Absolutely brilliantly funny that you did all this, and it makes these boards so neatly, but you haven't yet got a use for the boards!
Luckily, Christmas is rapidly approaching so there's definitely some neat "ornaments" to be programed.
I feel like this would be a sick upgrade to a belted-Z printer like a Voron Switchwire. You could cut out a ton of the Z travel time.
Conveniently, I have a Switchwire and was thinking the same thing!
When you said belt, i thought you meant something like the White Knight by Nak3D or the CR-30!
Which now that i think of it would allow for easily integrated (just need a placer mechanism for new plates maybe?) automatic production!
Granted the lack of aligning/visual confirmation equipment may be an issue.
Maybe Guidebars (to constrain the square boards to a parallel and smaller part of the belt) and some sort of LumenPnP component fork could make it work!
Most of the Z movement is not travel, it’s to actuate the piston.
Excellent!!
Love it.
I could see this moving into an open reflow oven with a z belt. You could have components roll into jigs that overlap the print area That would probably require some custom slicing though
Everything is possible just the question of time and resources.
Very cool ideas! Especially using an affordable printer for such tasks. I don't know how you tricked the Prusa slicer since a cylinder would require not just a touch, but bravo!
If the cylinder smaller than the set-up nozzle diameter, then it won't make a circular movement.
Amazing. Absolutely genius. Such an elegant solution! I would love to better understand how you set it up in the slicer. Using the jig for smd strips containing a number of components, I am sure your could make some more complex boards. I have no idea how you would get a slicer to do that though. Love your work, you have a new sub
Super cool! I wonder if you could actually have it extrude a corner first that would allow you to index the parts tray.
For simple "stupid" reptitive g code movements you can easily program with excel.
Also mks servo drives would allow much more speed. You could set jerk and acceleration values to the moon because you don't need smooth linear movement a print needs. Then you would have a pro level PNP machine.
The problem is, this 3D printer moves the bed, so you would knock already placed components around with bed movements. A CoreXY with dedicated Z-Axis for the toolhead is WAY better suited for a pick and place application, especially when it comes to speed.
@@ProtonOne11 I agree. Thats why you would want a core or any non moving bed machine. Then feed with a palet system.
What would be equally as great is if you made another mechanism to place the proper amount of solder paste in the correct location. Excellent work
Genious man , thank you for sharing
any stl files ?
With a single stepper and ball screw, you could squeeze a syringe of solder paste to prep the pads. Getting the paste to separate from the needle could be challenging. But you should be able to shear the "solder noodle" between the needle and the PCB.
what about a sprint that open a piece of metal when its extruded and shuts when there is no pressure.
By tinkering with the speed and acceleration settings you might be able to make it even quicker.. Nice work
Brilliant, excellent!
I started the same way. Converted my 3d printer to a pick and place, but quickly realized it was not big enough. Then built a true pick and place machine using OpenPNP.
Simply Awesome! I've been doing placing by hand and it is super error prone and slow...
Innovative, good job. Just a thought, continuous Y direction to make ribbons.
Yes, that would be a next step!
I’d image you could design a pick and place extension with multiple pickups to cut down on time.
Like either linear or grid pick up.
Now that was a good use of a short, Like a fucking trailer for the video. You said there's a more detailed video in the description, I said yes please.
By utilizing pins on the heatbed (which is normally used for steel sheet) you could skip the manual alignment process at the start.
can you please explain how this works?
@@ulamss5 there are two index screws in the back of the heatbed. The steel sheet you place there is aligned correctly by touching them... so if his rig is pushed against them the same way as a steel sheet is placed, he would be set just by this technique and would not need any manual alignment later.
This is very 10000 IQ I want to give this a try! I made a syringe that’s is run by a pancake motor!
Hi.. excellent work. Can you please make a video on how you modified the g code to make it all work
Ez nagyon jó 💉👌
Just a quick note, maybe adding a small laser pointer could make the initial alignment even easier?
awesoooomeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! genius!
and now we need automatic feeder conversion kit for this awesome tool, you still have free E motor...
Nice design. What push to open mechanism did you use?
sos un crack
Have you tried arranging the parts around the pcb to shorten delivery times for the component?
could you make a jig the same size as the bed so you can use auto home etc to always find the corners to line every thing up , also whats the smallest thing it will pick up , also to create unusual paterns would you just import a patten in slicer and place an object the size of the chip to place at the desired points
Full bed jig would be possible. It would be even better to make a jig which holds the reals themselves and the print head could be programmed to roll down the real, so it needs to move always the same place and would leave more space on the bed for the PCB. Sounds like a future project :).
Smallest thing I have not tested yet. But I would not think, that it can grab the smaller resistors and capacitors.
Another missing feature, that it can not turn the grabbed parts, that is why I had to put the LED reels like that. I could install a stepper motor on top of it to solve this issue, but then it would be more complex to make it easy to install, because of the extra wiring.
Hi...superb have plotter not working can be fix instead of 3d printer (graphtec ce 2000)
so coool :PP hehe
This is awesome! Do you plan on making the design available?
Nope.
Nice idea! Do you have a link to download the cad files?
are you going to make the STL's available anywhere?
Can i do this with the ender 3?
Can you please tell me where you got that push latch from? The ones I found are way larger models unfortunately :(
So, is the STL available? Maybe I've missed something, but haven't found any mention of it
I wonder if you could make a machine dedicated around this mod
thinking what if you could have it so the bed after placement could go further back into a IR oven area to be flowed, and replace the print head with an inspection camera?
Sure there is a potential in it. Would need more free time to further develop. If the videos going viral in this topic and the community wants more then I will try to give more :)
Is the project open source?
Pretty cool. Does it really save any time since you have to load the fixture, or does it just make it less tedious since you're not manually placing on the paste? BTW thisoldtony has a video on the push on / push off mechanism if anybody is interested. How do the leds come packaged would tape and reel make it easier? Anyway pretty cool.
The LEDs were in a pick and place reel. It's like the gum that comes in those pillow packs. The cup side is black the top seal is clear. He only had to cut the reel into steps of the correct length, press them in his jig, and 4:56 peel the clear top off.
@@RichardBronosky Thanks, somehow missed that.
nice work. where did you buy grab part ? the syringe nozzle ? could you share of it's hyperlinks ?
Hi, I have checked my order history on aliexpress, but the same products are not available anymore.
However, I spent some time to search new ones:
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dd2hmK5
Nice work man!
Actually, if the device is even slower than doing manually still a progress as you is free to do another job or just relax.
sharing the files anywhere?
What is Push and Plix?
I know this wasn't the main focus of the video, but how does that infrared ic heater work? I'm asking, because I'd love to do some sheets of neopixels, but wasn't sure if that would work with flexible boards and I'd also like to understand how that works in general. Since you said reflowing, do your ics come with solder on them already or do you dap them with some first and reflow it for a better connection?
I put solder paste first onto the boards, then placed the LEDs and then reflow them.
I have also made changes on my reflow oven to be better, but you can find several videos about it on YT. It worked fine for me so far.
Where can i download the model? I will love to test it.
Gotta pay to play.
Awesome!
What to make? An LED cube version of "SNAKE", there is no external controller, the snake head follows gravity, rotate the cube to chase the food and grow.
It is a cool idea. I saw it already somewhere, but maybe I will also give it a try to program it and it needs some extra hardware also.
@@Dombi3D Thanks, I subscribed from this video.
There are a few projects that use a an accelerometer to detect which way up a cube is for things like music control, home automation etc, should find some good example code there.
I forgot to ask, where can I get the same nozzle you used?
I can't find any, I'm ordering the latches soon, would be nice to have the nozzle arrive around the same time.
Hi, I bought them on AliExpress, but after checking my previous orders now for you, it is not available anymore. You need to find some alternative.
@@Dombi3D Thanks for getting back to me so quickly, the closest things I've found so far are the little pen type things with a button, they have some spare nozzles but look too small for the syringe.
Any new videos in the works?
@@welshdave5263 Yes, but with other topics. Snapmaker review, but I plan to make a similar design for it, because it has a much sturdier structure as the prusa had. I just simply can not manage everything parrallel what I want...
I wish I had this type of brain
whow the room with the reflow oven must be stinky....
Nope:
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Ügyes...csak nekem összekeverednek a betűk abban, amit mondasz.
Well, rare nonsense ... No, that's not cool... a real P&P is cool.. it's a waste of time and effort on a useless thing.