Too Many Expats Leaving The Philippines
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Too many expats leaving the Philippines?
So many expat vloggers that we have watched are now living in the US or Canada. Why did so many leave the Philippines
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Microphones !! Awesome! I was waiting for those. Great video. Sound is awesome
Thank you!
Our family are all american citizens now, so it will be easier to travel. We plan on traveling internationally and making the Philippines our homebase.
Took my filapina fiancé on a vaca to Thailand. We decided to live here for several reasons. Top of the list is that…”things actually WORK here !”. Cell service is 5G and is everywhere. My WiFi is fiber optic and I’m in a 5* condo for the same price as a 1* condo n Cavite. The roads/highways function “efficiently”…there are stop lights/traffic signals. No brownouts, excellent street food choices, cheaper vehicle options and ample accommodation choices are also key. Downside is language, however with technology…translators do help. We live on $2000 US a month and want for nothing. As a retired Canadian Thailand “ticks way more boxes” than the Ph. I would suggest everyone to visit the Ph and hopefully find your last love as I did…and bring them to Thailand. You’ll have the best of both worlds 😇.
Thats.what I'm.thinking of doing.Get.them away from their family.$$$
Also safer in Northern Thailand.especially.
Smart move for both of you
The food in the Fills is enough reason to leave.
Foreigners are finding out the downside of moving to the Philippines. Yes, Thailand is a neighbor that has invested in its economy and infrastructure and is therefore able to attract expats at an ever-increasing rate. the new 5 year multi-entry visa is a gamechanger and will attract expats in droves. The Philippines has yet to acknowledge it has a problem developing its economy, infrastructure and appeal, and has ignored the obvious for many decades. The government has done a poor job in upgrading all things Filipino to compete with its local neighbors.
I am one of those that intend to stay here in the Philippines and have no need for a u tube channel❤
Like i had mentioned in a preveous comment, the philippines is fun but will wear you down, its a place to vacation , not live permanently , We have a house there in subic and in ca. , My wife is filipina , We both cant stay there very long , 2 months max, The noise pollution, dogs, roosters ,motorcycles ,music ,people, will drive anyone crazy . all day all night. Coming back to california its quiet and relaxing when we get here.
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Agree with you man I'm not ready to live fulltime yet maybe divide my time between US and PI for now
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Thanks for sharing your video’s 🥰👍👍
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Very good video. the saying Don’t burn ur bridges. We can’t predict the future. Happy for u both an Son.
Getting the itch to do more time in Thailand each year. Here for total of 4 months this trip with stops in Malaysia, SIngapore, and Vietnam. Next year probably doing 6 months
I see it differently. I've just gone back to Australia for a little operation & l realise the Philippines is now my home.
I would like to thank you for all your content. I am a follower of your channel and a big fan of you and Cecile. You do things so right when it comes to moving and making your mind up on moving to the Philippines. Cecile is a big part of your chooses and that's a plus. It's a team move. You are setting YOUR family success in the long term of the future
Thank you Gary. We appreciate you!
I am leaving the Philippines after living here for twelve years. It is not because of the Philippines, it is because of the rising costs of maintaining my permanent residence in NA. I am going back to work because there are no jobs for foreigners in PH.
Living abroad is not always "living the dream" as many proclaim. Some guys are not prepared financially or try working abroad and not always successful. Culture is a bigger adjustment than folks think, some can adapt and some can't. I really like the Filipino people but I left after five years. I'm single and didn't have any lady problems and my Filipino landlord treated me very well. I just didn't enjoy ridding my motorcycle any more, because of selfish, inconsiderate drivers. Not trying to persuade any one from moving to the Philippines, just sharing my experience.
in the Philippines some will risk there life too get in front of you and so many just wonder onto the high way and dont even look I drove a truck in the US new York city LA no problem the PI is the most challenging place to drive I have ever seen
That’s an understatement
Its not a trend. Its a case to case basis. It happens to all countries for various reasons.
Great job Cecile on your savings challenge! I'm saving cash money too but I put in my safety box.I hope I'll save enough to buy a land in the Philippines. Thank you for sharing the video.
I Australia gas is now $2.00 a litre and 4.5 litres equal a gallon that makes it $ 9.00 a gallon.
Made the snowbird choice for the next 2 years. I miss my home in the phils after 30 days back west ... 5 ths more and im goung home. Still doing my expat vids though.
It's all about patience. After awhile your patience will run out. I sure you will experience. Part time is the best way. After 6 months or so it's nice to get back to the US and take a deep breath.
Yes, Western men always have the entitled attitudes and whine when things do not work in their favor 😂
Bangkok is where we will end up retiring. Good public transportation, great food and healthcare
Still here and not leaving,here 8 months/Wyoming 3 to 4,
nope... we are still in Bataan.
Hey Scott Cecile Liam & Chanel! Good insight and interesting perspective on a necessary topic. Video image is fine! Valuable contribution from Cecile's perspective too. A "Big Picture" view and outlook that you both share, covers the majority of possible issues. Marker 44 is generic and universally applicable. Your narrative style has vastly improved and involving Cecile is an entertaining dynamic. I like the savings binder you use; where can someone purchase one? Similar to what my Mom did but without the binder. She had a special way of folding and grouping bills until they totaled $100. To Asians, having the money physically accessible gives them the feeling of security and eases their mind. Enjoyable video! Good fortune, health, fun and happiness to everyone. Stay safe
Thank you Walt! We're glad you enjoyed and appreciate our progress!
The savings book came from Amazon.
@@Marker44 Thank you for the information and quick response
@@Marker44 You're welcome! Keep the videos coming
I am an American in a relationship with an intelligent, successful Filipina. We both currently work in the same country of which is not the U.S., nor the Philippines. We had plans to retire in the Philippines. However, we have decided to retire in Thailand for multiple reason. With experience living in both Thailand and the Philippines, where Thailand is today vs where the Philippines is today is like day and night. We will still visit the Philippines every year, but we will be purchasing a villa with its own swimming pool in Thailand of which we can fully own and will be leasing the land the villa sits on for 99 years transferrable to my son.
Many such cases, perhaps? Philippines for the woman and then Thailand for the remaining years.
Lots to think about. Thank your for talking about these various issues.
As for health, I've been very active throughout life (good nutrition also) so heart is solid to 90's and prostate fine etc. but OH! those knees. I think I'll have to do that right one before relocating (although I hear it is not hard to go to Thailand and get quality work done). I work in health care and I see everyday what HTN and diabetes does to the body. Solid advise is, do not sell everything and go overseas with any metabolic problems.
Once you commit yourselves, I can't imagine trying to come back on retired income. I did a quick calculation and $70k USD annual would do well there; obviously, you are in big trouble in the US. Just imagine the cost of a car in America is the same as a house in the Philippines!
You mentioned some serious considerations but I gotta say, I'm 61 and post-divorce realizing that it is quite frankly over as far as the sexual marketplace. I'm super comfortable and at peace but to go the rest of my life without a woman? That alone gives me courage over all the potential cons of life (an adventure) in the Philippines.
If they marry a younger girl and think they going to automaticly get survivor benefits might look at specifics cause if you pass might leave your wife and kids in bad situation. That might be why some go back for 5 years.
Exactly they have to live in america 5yrs to get half his ssa
Your own children are eligible, but you have to apply. Bringing her back to the states may be risky for other reasons, and I do not personally want enter the rat race there again. If you build savings leave her something in your will. We can't guarantee them a life of easy street, a lot depends on how they mange things once you're gone.
Where did you get that stat coz there still so many foreigners living here and the numbers keep on increasing some are building homes mostly americans/canadians/germans/russians.
I suggest looking at the SRRV numbers…it’s declining. One big reason, the American bases closed in 94…A lot of military guys have never been to the Philippines…The Vietnam era guys who make up a lot of the expats are aging and deciding to leave…we are going to see a 30 year serious gap in vets wanting to come. We have a VA hospital in Manila, but no commissary access, no real little America to visit like the old bases provided. Anyone who has been stationed overseas knows what I mean …
Expat condos, the only real ownership option for expats without creative options have low occupancy rates…developers don’t provide the same disclosures as in the West in terms of association financials…15 million, 300K for a 60 sqm…less than 700 square feet is very expensive. It should concern anyone looking at property in expat communities…
So are there better options? I would say the Philippines has competition for sure.
I was mostly speaking about foreign vloggers we follow and didnt offer any stat.
after a year or so you relies that its not the so called paradise most utubers talk about saying its so much cheaper here. you can live like a king is bs
I think the acid test is to ask are you living at least as well or better than where you came from. Be brutally honest with yourself.
@@user-zu5tv7zt6v that would be hard to do because its so much different here in the phil.i dont think my life is better because the lack of certain things but its stuff i really dont need but sometime want. i do go home once a year or two. that helps alot. dont get me wrong i do love living here. but is my life better im not sure
So James it sounds like you did not do your homework 📚 about the Philippines 🇵🇭 or anywhere else … yes it is very much cheaper to live in the Philippines 🇵🇭 and that is the truth !!!!
I myself am planning to move to the Philippines 🇵🇭 as I am retired ,,, I have done my homework 📚 and saved while working … I retired early though I did not want to … but having made more good decisions than bad ones … I can definitely say 💯 % it is very much cheaper to live in the Philippines 🇵🇭.. now I’m not rich but with a good monthly income and having invested and saved … I will live just as nice if not nicer in the Philippines 🇵🇭…,
So long story short ,,, make good decisions and do your homework 📚.. makes life that much easier …,
@@porgslastforeverforeverlas8488 ive been coming here at least once or twice a year for ten years before i moved here. maybe you miss understood my statement to many people come here on less than a grand a month thinking they will live like a king hahaha i dont set a budget i never did that back home in the U.S but i spend about 1.800.00 a month to live here excluding travel
@@porgslastforeverforeverlas8488 Really? I've been coming to the Philippines since 93, as my first wife was a Pinay. I decided to retire here and have LIVED here for 5 years. I watched other foreigners go under, many who had 'a good income' because they choose to support single mothers and extended families. Money is not the only factor, and you can do all the homework you want online (and you should), but you wont' actually know the pros and cons until you've lived here for several months. Tell me, have you done a trial run accessing your accounts online? Purchased a phone line, like magicjack, for making calls back home? Have 2 or 3 ways of accessing your money? Set up a virtual mailbox? If you have that is good. Also, decided where you will live? Will you hire someone to help you, such as a maid or have a friend here to help get you get settled? ONLY by actually living here can you decide whether or not you are living as good or better here than where you're from. I have not only done my 'homework' but plenty of 'field research' as well 🙂 I truly wish you success on your Philippine journey.
Oh man that is normal for expats and tourists leving the Philippines please remember that our life is just a come and go situations. Also those who are leving may really have that no intentions to stay for long but to explore other places. You have to note also that there really are many who are really come to the country with the intentions to stay l9ng come whatever difficulties there maybe.
I'm sure that some people don't actually make plans before they move and then they find out that things aren't the way that they expected. They might not be able to adapt to living in a foreign country. A lot of the times I don't find it necessary for me to have a vehicle because I am usually by myself while my wife is with her family and I spend times with friends. We do that because she doesn't want me to be bored with nothing to do. If I need to go or want to go somewhere I'll just get a trike or some type of ride. Things are only as good as you make them in the Philippines. I spent 10 months in the Philippines with most of that time being when the pandemic started. I survived that and it didn't make me want to leave.
I quit going to parties where no English is spoken and/or go home early, rather than sit there like an end table or light fixture. Also, try not to drink just to endure it.
36 years in The Philippines but working in The Middle East for 20 years and now retiring since 11 years and so happy.
We have house with solar and well so our expenses are so minimal
we got tired of the brownouts and we got solar also. best investment I ever made.
@@rayray2076 We have a 6kw hybrid Deye inverter 14 Solar Panels of 550 Watts each and a battery of 15kwh Felicity solar 300ah .
I wanted to ask You. Where You able to connect your water heater to the solar system. My solar installer did not approve it although we have 3 hp and 2 hp Aircon inverter plus 2x 1hp Ac inverter connected to solar system with washing machine plus 2 x 1hp well and booster pump
We are just carefull not to start everything in same time and waiting peak time solar for Aircon and nighttime we use our 15 kw battery for our 2.5 hp in our bedroom
I am trying to find out if I can connect my water heater
Yall could call it "Scotts Asian Adventures"....there!😊😅
Perfect! Lol
I try to inform people who read these sections (when YT doesn't delete for no reason) that adjusting to life in the Philippines can be very difficult and even frustrating. Gleaning helpful 'how-to' information, and avoiding scams/skin tax is like pulling teeth sometimes. Most of us older folk, especially those who've haven't traveled much, need a helper here, either a trusted maid or partner to make the transition smoother. There's also the issue of setting up your banking and cash flow with an alternate fail safe. On a modest income, you cannot support many others, such as stepchildren and/or extended family. Please do a trial run FIRST before you commit to living or moving here.
You marry a Filipina you marry the family as well. Sometimes the Filipina has too much baggage or children and gets expensive to maintain relationship. You can't be close to your woman with kids clinging to the mom. I feel like going back soon.
@@Sunrvester This is a meme I often hear. The question is: do you have to agree to it? And what does that mean, exactly? When we 'marry' the family, are we then automatically liable for their financial well being? If so, that's a heavy burden to carry!
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I agree with you and I look at it as huge burden . I met a fellow veteran and he told me when he take his Filipina wife to dinner he tells his wife not to invite her family and if they want to come along they can pay for the meals lol
@user-zu5tv7zt6v
Yes it is a big and deep hole in your pocket.
Expats in the Philippines can leave the Philippines anytime, they are foreigners they have thier own choise😊Philippines is a democratic country, maybe they can retire and stay in china or russia or n. Korea
The best laid plans of mice and men 😮
Adjust the sun, then. "Take 2"...😊
Your blogger ilook inyour blog mybe ,know me also.
I met my forever partner 6 years online. Slowly got to know each other and families. I was over for 8 months living with partner in rented house. First time for me leaving America. Yes there is massive poverty and garbage. I love the people and food. We bought a lot to build a house. Coming back this August, already shipped a large box of clothes and items.
Good luck to you guys!
At least you have I 44 highway there in Oklahoma city
How difficult, and how long did it take for Cecile to become a citizen?
Not difficult at all she just had to apply after living in the US for three years and go thru the application process. The time from application for US citizenship to oath taking was a little over a year. Her and Liam are now both dual citizens.
Goodbye visit again😊
They leave but they come back
Good they all left.
😂😂
Filipinos : 🎉🎉🎉
I can explain it in 3 words. Too many roosters. 😉
Good 1..😂
How about too many Dogs, too many trikes, too many brown outs, too many blah blah blah
But I love the Philippines.
@@kevink3975oh yeah its really a matter of personal choice.
Oh they're leaving? Okay. 🤟😎
Good list of why people move back. We are in Philippines but we came here after retirement from our jobs in USA. We sold everything and move back. Been here 9 years. Living here we got out debt. I had to go back in January of this year. Had not been back In 5 years.
It was so expensive and cold. We have kids there in San Diego. But we could not wait to get back here. Every one has to decide what’s best for them. I am 71. I think before we reach 75 we move back because of our age. My wife is 6 years younger.
Buy/build a house here and you're stuck (not easy to sell) unless you can afford to just leave it and start again somewhere else.
Was it difficult for her to travel back and forth to the Philippines during the three year waiting period?
Not at all. You just have to be sure youre not outside of the US more than six months each calendar year.
Always good info, thanks!
If it's not your cup of tea why stay. If you enjoy travel to other countries and would like to have a partner to go with you a Filopina may not be your best choice as the Philippine passport is fairly week compared to some of the other SE Asian countries.
I am getting the hell out of Amerika. won't come back unless Trump becomes president.
Because he's your racist white deliverance right, and you could care less about human beings who don't look like you or Trump
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Short list of why I left PH after 2 years and moved to Cambodia..
Overpriced housing. If you spend the same amount in Cambodia, Thailand, or Vietnam then your place will be twice as big with everything functioning and working perfectly and somewhat luxurious.
The PH diet was awful for me. It’s all salt, sugar, and the worst pieces of meat. All fat. Lots of carbs and everything deep fried. I had to make my own meals and that was challenging considering what was available to buy.
The water in my shower smelled very toxic and irritated my skin.
I lived in various places in Ph and they all had a huge problem with cockroaches, ants, and some cases the rats. Regardless of how luxurious a condo was, they all have this problem.
Traffic in Manila.
No family tourism. It’s all geared towards single middle aged men. I never saw a full family together on vacation there. Only men alone. Philippines should try and attract more family tourism. That would be a lot of money for the country.
It’s too hot. I had to run my aircon almost 24/7, which is a huge expense. It’s about 5 degrees cooler here in Cambodia so it’s enough to never need aircon. I’m quite comfortable with a fan only.
The dogs barking all night. They don’t stop. I’m not sure why the owners don’t teach them to hush. It goes ALL night long. There are more dogs where I live in Cambodia and they are all quiet all night long.
Karaoke…. I love good music and I don’t mind when the neighbors party but every night until 4AM is a bit much.
It’s hard to find real coffee at a coffee shop. It’s mostly 3-1 powder mix which is atrocious. Here in Cambodia I can walk to 10 places that have real espresso that’s better than anything at Starbucks.
Fear of earthquakes (I felt some little ones), fear of tropical storms (the roof almost blew off), fear of war.
Lack of ways to use my ATM card efficiently. Even the 7-11 near my home only took cash for their items. The ATMs are constantly out of cash. Some days I would go to 5 ATMs before I found one with money. Took hours. Also when you find one with money there can be a line. A long slow line. I’ve waited in an ATM line 30-45 minutes many times.
Lack of fresh vegetables. It was hard for me to find clean healthy vegetables. A lot were old and bruised and the really nutritious vegetables are nowhere to be found.
My internet and electric was always good but the water was an issue. One place had construction down the block so the water was off every day for 6 hours. I quickly moved homes because of this. But the place I moved to had a really low water pressure it takes so much time to rinse the shampoo out of my hair. I’m t was like a squirt gun.
If you go to Hypermarket to buy groceries, that long line doesn’t move fast like in the West. Be prepared to be in line for up to an hour to purchase your groceries. I stopped going to Hypermarket because of this.
I’m not retired or on vacation, so I need a job. There were little to no options for me in the Philippines. That is completely different here in Cambodia. I have multiple job offers of them competing for me.
The one good thing I can say about the Philippines is the people are great. It’s a really safe country and you don’t need to worry about crime. Anyone and everyone will help you if you need assistance. They love to smile and they are genuinely happy regardless of any financial struggles. You can smile and say hi or talk to anyone and they will chat you back easily. That’s impossible to in the West nowadays.
…also in the Philippines, Shoppee and Lazada are great!! Makes life easy.
I picked Cambodia and it solved all my problems, and I’m spending less. None of those issues are a problem here. I’m blessed. The night life is alive here with amazing healthy nutritious street food, the best coffee, steaks, and the bars and clubs are great. 50 cent beers and good music. A lot of live music too. So many choices that you can find one that suits any theme. The housing is great for the money. Everything is clean and functions how it should. Safe. I get free WiFi, and free basic maid service, free parking. Those are all extra in Ph. I’m really healthy and happy here. The people are great here too. I don’t have an issue with language. Most people, especially younger, can speak basic English. Lots of things to do and see here. I will be here for many many years.
This comment is purely subjective and opinions. I know some people weren’t happy in Cambodia and moved to Philippines. We are all different. But that’s my story.
You're right buddy! I have plan to retire in Pakistan or in Afghanistan next year!😏
My name Lita if she remenber, ok if not it ok for me.
Let’s be honest a lot of these guys have wore out their welcome.
PH is paradise on earth for rich Filipinos only & not for foreigners to settle foreigners in PH can't own properties full business ownership have very limited rights & many are deported foreigners can be naturalized PH citizens if born & raised in PH like the prominent Spanish Ayala family which is not the case of clueless newcomers
You made it sound like hundreds left Vlogging is hard work to make money You need to produce interesting content a lot otherwise you live off $5/day Philippines is for Filipinos first ☮️
Or chickening out due to the impending war against China? 😂
My new Filipina did not wont to stay long enough to get U.S citizenship she has a 2 yr green card she did like not high cost of living here child starts college this yr try paying that in states. U.S not home for her i never should have brung her to sates that my fault not her.
There is trouble in paradise, because there is no paradise. It's only youtubers selling the dream. The Philippines is a tough place to live, we all know that.
Tough place if you have no money. Not just Philippines but all over the world. You need work buddy.
Not just if you don't have money, but yes much harder then. I let my partner do most of the unpleasant tasks, only because of the language barrier. It has it good points and bad points. Overall, I prefer better than the states.
@@bertronix182 Or perhaps would be happier in another country. Wish we had explored other options as well. Money is important, but so is spending what you have wisely. I'd venture that the vast majority in the Phil are on a fixed income, and few are rich by US standards. Any vloger that paints the Philippines as a paradise, or Fantasy Island, is either delusional or doing it for likes and to get more subscribers, given that he has really lived here and not just passing through.
War is next...
That is a perplexing sentence.