Watching YOU Play Football Manager... With NO Attributes

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  • čas přidán 30. 06. 2022
  • First Streamer (Sunday League Jack): / sundayleaguejack
    Second Streamer (thecult0f): / thecult0f
    Third Streamer (Dommilburn): / dommilburn
    We had so much fun with it last time I figured we would watch a few more people play Football Manager and let me tell you it continued to surprise me. Have you ever played without attributes? Played Football Manager for 20 years? Well, yes, I have, but that just means I found a kindred spirit! Their tactics are fun, their teams are interpretive, and their enthusiasm is unmatched.
    I do want to make this a series and I really enjoy doing it. You do not realize how different FM is from person to person until you sit and watch it for 20 minutes. Is this how you all feel when I’m playing FM and you’re watching? If it is, that is wild. You’re just sitting there judging the way I do things and wondering if it is better or worse than you have been doing this in the past.
    Much Love,
    FM Senpai
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    Zealand Playing:
    TWITCH ► / zeaiand
    CZcams ► / @zealandlive
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    Podcasts:
    20 good minutes ► open.spotify.com/show/5Qf5sSN...
    The Zealand Podcast ► open.spotify.com/show/65eNWIP...
    Armchair History ► open.spotify.com/show/2QCd3Ti...
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    Zealand Stuff:
    MY FM SKIN ► zealand.gg/fmskin
    INSTAGRAM ► / theoldzealand
    TIKTOK ► / theoldzealand
    TWITTER ► / theoldzealand
    DISCORD ► / discord
    REDDIT ► / theoldzealand
    LE MERCH ► highscoretees.com/collections...
    MY GAME STORE ► www.nexus.gg/zealand
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    Check out Reece the Editor on:
    CZcams ► / @reecetheeditor
    TWITTER ► / reecetheeditor
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    Check out the Animator Tomleggosaurus on:
    CZcams ► / @tomleggosaurus1
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    Thanks for watching and scrolling!
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Komentáře • 173

  • @sundayleaguejack1483
    @sundayleaguejack1483 Před rokem +68

    Imagine my surprise when I feature in a Zealand video. Hit 1k followers because of it. Much love.

  • @TheCultofFM
    @TheCultofFM Před rokem +395

    Hey just wanted to say thanks for dropping in the stream and showing a bit off here Zealand I appreciate it and loved the video.
    We did go on to win the Premier League later & just last night the Champions League beating Munich in Munich our mission is complete.

    • @TheCultofFM
      @TheCultofFM Před rokem +110

      I'm sure your questions were rhetorical but incase people are interested,
      Game Speed - That was the start of a long 11 hour stream and we wanted to get the whole season done in one day ( which became a theme ) so the speed had to be up I did slow it down for bigger games!
      Tablet - I had loads of tech issues with my laptop streaming in such random quality and I managed to get it better in the stream after this one actually! In my one open slot, I only showed my team as my camera blocks some of my player ratings, & my chat wanted to see that selected.
      Drink in question - 100% mega-pint of Cherry juice.

    • @daviebananas1735
      @daviebananas1735 Před rokem +15

      Can I just say that you must be very good at FM, but you’re team talks and sideline shouts were disastrous every time!

    • @gabrielcabista12
      @gabrielcabista12 Před rokem +1

      The Cult of FM Hey, Cult! Keep up the good work!
      What’s the skin you are using in game? Thanks!

    • @louisblake6536
      @louisblake6536 Před rokem +1

      @@gabrielcabista12 Default skin. You can just remove the colours of the attributes in your game settings.

    • @TheCultofFM
      @TheCultofFM Před rokem +1

      @@gabrielcabista12 Thank you Gabriel! It's just the FM22 default skin!

  • @inwector
    @inwector Před rokem +614

    Zealand, I have an offer for you. I teach you how to pronounce Turkish names, you personally sing "Loans" to me. What do you say?

    • @connorlong3553
      @connorlong3553 Před rokem +14

      This would make a good video

    • @amateurweebo3610
      @amateurweebo3610 Před rokem +4

      I am Turkish can i get the honor

    • @demirgundogdu3002
      @demirgundogdu3002 Před rokem +2

      @Axilya same here.

    • @demirgundogdu3002
      @demirgundogdu3002 Před rokem +4

      Btw it is
      u-ghur-can( as in can who plays for bvb normal can pronounciation is different ) cha-kir
      Ç=ch
      Ğ=gh
      Ş=sh
      Ö and Ü= I have no idea if these letters have any similarities to other english sounds

    • @muhammederendursun9518
      @muhammederendursun9518 Před rokem +2

      Turkey... kgoğukgu, We got kökçü

  • @westmidskitlad
    @westmidskitlad Před rokem +88

    I'm absolutely here for Zealand's utter confusion at the concept of people drinking squash / cordial 😅

  • @DGAMINGDE
    @DGAMINGDE Před rokem +237

    That Pulisic person seems to have a reputation. Saw them attacking a completely unrelated person.

    • @Geo-nw9ug
      @Geo-nw9ug Před rokem +2

      Him not them it’s only one person

    • @ABomb_Plays
      @ABomb_Plays Před rokem +2

      I've seen him in about 3 streams spamming about pulisic

    • @ThePrince1835
      @ThePrince1835 Před rokem +10

      @@Geo-nw9ug could be a girl lol

    • @darenlee8987
      @darenlee8987 Před rokem +11

      @@Geo-nw9ug it's a neutral pronoun

    • @Geo-nw9ug
      @Geo-nw9ug Před rokem

      @@ThePrince1835 Nop

  • @Mombot_z
    @Mombot_z Před rokem +141

    When Zealand doesn’t know that we (Zealand’s mods), along with almost every FM streamer, has had to ban that guy in chat. Zealand does have a few other things going on during stream but maybe I should tell him now. 🤣

    • @SiMaggio
      @SiMaggio Před rokem +27

      Yeah - he starts to get racist/homophobic if he doesn't get his way. I recommend FM streamers flag the word Pulisic for review in the automod - helps stop him before he starts

    • @Geo-nw9ug
      @Geo-nw9ug Před rokem

      @@SiMaggio pul1sic

    • @danielpooley7148
      @danielpooley7148 Před rokem +2

      I see that dude it’s embarrassing I was watching fm girl and the same dude popped in

  • @bogdancalin3097
    @bogdancalin3097 Před rokem +76

    TheCultOfFm is playing a moneyball save, he buys the players off of stats purely

    • @twakilon
      @twakilon Před rokem +19

      That's such a chad move. You have to be very confident to play that way on stream.

    • @jacklambert5895
      @jacklambert5895 Před rokem

      wait whats a moneyball save lol

    • @Mars-kj8le
      @Mars-kj8le Před rokem

      @@jacklambert5895 u see no attributes

  • @MatthaisUK
    @MatthaisUK Před rokem +51

    It was still a good video, but I particularly enjoyed the streamers' reactions to you following them (and your conversations after) in the first video. I was sad to see these were missing this time.

    • @shaggydoggs
      @shaggydoggs Před rokem +1

      There is more then enough ego stroking already

  • @TiimoTiimo
    @TiimoTiimo Před rokem +52

    Zealand, I play with the game on full speed. But I am a man who's eyes were trained since CM97/98 to read every piece of text commentary as it went past at full speed. I don't miss a thing.

    • @SMiThaYe
      @SMiThaYe Před rokem +3

      I remember, holding down spacebar a few seconds to make it go lightspeed. Ah good times!

    • @defeatstatistics7413
      @defeatstatistics7413 Před rokem +17

      CM01/02 here, miss my defenders being sent off for a right hook.

    • @GarkKahn
      @GarkKahn Před rokem

      Ah cm 01/02 and 03/04
      What a great times those were

  • @timlett99
    @timlett99 Před rokem +26

    I NEED to see a mini series of Zealand playing with attributes masked

  • @Akolyx
    @Akolyx Před rokem +17

    Sunday League Jack seems like very entertaining guy.

  • @thargoff
    @thargoff Před rokem +9

    2 out of 3 use the Zealand skin and no mention of it at all. :D
    RDF also played attributeless for some saves this year

  • @saltybfm
    @saltybfm Před rokem +14

    Still waiting for the Pulisic guy to turn up for me… that’s when you know you’ve made it!!
    Great video Zealand! Not sure why these are so compelling but it’s really cool seeing you react to different play styles!

  • @kjwdog7453
    @kjwdog7453 Před rokem +5

    First guy was using like the 5th highest rated tactic on FM arena, I recognized it because it’s what I use, lol. It’s basically the best tactic that looks like a real formation you would see in real life

  • @Juju25118
    @Juju25118 Před rokem +13

    check out The Cult of FM's Moneyball series with Barnsley on youtube. He takes it to the next level and is a very enjoyable watch.

    • @Juju25118
      @Juju25118 Před rokem +3

      he uses the actual game stats instead of attributes there too

  • @shahrulyusryroslan5826
    @shahrulyusryroslan5826 Před rokem +7

    Impressed with CultofFM thread on Pep's Man City tactic. Last I know, he's working with SI now.

  • @Murtini2023
    @Murtini2023 Před rokem +6

    3:30 Hello Scot Chegg, I see you.

  • @BrockMak
    @BrockMak Před rokem +9

    3:46 I do that a lot. If the team concedes goals, even when it was 12-1, I berate the defenders, unless if it was obvious about who messed up.

    • @tumama7799
      @tumama7799 Před rokem +1

      And its so annoying when they get pissed off .

    • @BrockMak
      @BrockMak Před rokem

      @@tumama7799 I'm turning into Erik teg Hag-like manager (though my passing is very direct and aerial compared to him). I don't care if they're butt hurt. Goalkeepers and defenders need thick skin.

  • @aidenedwards1426
    @aidenedwards1426 Před rokem +7

    CULT OF WON THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE LAST NIGHT HAHA

  • @SiMaggio
    @SiMaggio Před rokem +13

    Cult0f works for SI as a match engine tester. Interesting he's using FM20/21 style tactic

    • @TheCultofFM
      @TheCultofFM Před rokem +12

      Haha I used 3/4 different tactics in that save I just happened to switch to the 4-2-3-1 during this season I think it was! The first 14 seasons were 4-3-3 and 3-5-2!

  • @allackballack
    @allackballack Před rokem +5

    ive played without attributes for a couple of years now and i dont know how to remove the skin to go back lol. but the game changes a bit at the start but then you adapt and follow stars and match rating for your players. the annoying part is that I myself cant give an opinion about a players abilities because the numbers are hidden or in my case replaced by stars. basically I no longer can directlly judge players I am almost fully reliant on their star rating. but when looking for staff members to hire I can still filter my search to have very 15-16+ judging player ability before I sign them so that work around kind of gives me enough confidence in the star ratings that show on my report. after that it adds a bit more realism but makes you less involved and in control if that makes sense. it's fun tho

  • @gafferrrrr
    @gafferrrrr Před rokem +2

    hey zealand love the new watch fm vids,
    could you keep the reations of them when you message,
    last vid i found that funny how they were like "omg zealand is here" 😄

  • @butcherbigballs101
    @butcherbigballs101 Před rokem +14

    Sign Pulisic

  • @johnsmithking6646
    @johnsmithking6646 Před rokem +3

    The last guy had a champions league with espanhol. 12:20.

  • @Mebsuta
    @Mebsuta Před rokem +14

    Watching their reactions when you tell them you're there was sort of the best part of the previous similar video you did. I encourage you to repeat that.

  • @rob_latham
    @rob_latham Před rokem +1

    Looked like Ribena to me. Strong.

  • @geo124567
    @geo124567 Před rokem +5

    Fun fact, Some of the Pilgrims who came from the Netherlands to New England were originally from Boston in England where they moved to the Netherlands to escape from the Catholic church

  • @nielsen145
    @nielsen145 Před rokem +3

    longest game i ever had, was in CM4, lastest for 36years, before the database broke lol and that happend over 20 years ago, 2nd longest was FM2005 with 32years

  • @nj0377
    @nj0377 Před rokem +1

    Can you do a test about the effects location has on players and whether I should instruct my Brazilians to avoid coming out of the change rooms when playing in Russia in -5 degree weather. Also whether altitude such as in Bolivia has an effect.

  • @actuallyqb
    @actuallyqb Před rokem +2

    the cult GIGACHAD
    he be playing on dark soul level on FM lmao

  • @dafwilliams1995
    @dafwilliams1995 Před rokem +1

    I was adamant he was going to bring out the LOANS LOANSSSSSS at the end

  • @alfonsobarrado2902
    @alfonsobarrado2902 Před rokem

    1:04 the pullisic guy was also in thecrhoo stream the other day, he is a man and commitment pure focus and will

  • @bananarama3624
    @bananarama3624 Před rokem +3

    I watched your moneyball video then immediately YT recommended me thecultof's series which is based on Moneyball.
    When I saw his username I appear I was so excited to see your initial reaction and it was so worth it haha

  • @ATallMusician
    @ATallMusician Před rokem

    I was actually wondering recently if you were gonna continue this series, the last one was awesome. Great to see you're keeping it going, these are really fun 😁

  • @stephenwells9872
    @stephenwells9872 Před rokem +1

    Funnily enough I'm actually from Boston haha. It's a small town in Lincolnshire, famous for its sausage - you're welcome if you're a sausage fan

  • @MattandJose
    @MattandJose Před rokem

    I just got into FM22, and I was wondering, for matches, do most people have it for key highlights only (the game speed is super fast) or regular?

  • @LazyLuzifer
    @LazyLuzifer Před rokem

    Puts time wasting to max, 8:35 "What are you doing?" xD

  • @rasmusfagerlund1329
    @rasmusfagerlund1329 Před rokem

    The second guy shouted "put it in the box ffs" just seconds after he had his tactics set up to time waste frequently... omg

  • @iaindw1
    @iaindw1 Před rokem +1

    NO Attributes would be the proper way of playing it

  • @Jef_Vermassen
    @Jef_Vermassen Před rokem +1

    Hey Z, thanks for the help. Story time: Started a new long save, bottom league in Sweden. Been a while I was playing in a bottom league... So my team: bit shit, no money... more like making a loss. Looking at players I can't afford and being annoyed... until week 3 and again looking for players (can't afford their wages) and the mind went "Loooooooaaaans looooooooaaaaans loooooaaaaaans". Felt a bit silly it took me that long. :p

  • @mbvax
    @mbvax Před rokem

    8:10 that cheeky double look

  • @wplegend
    @wplegend Před rokem +7

    would be great if you announced you were watching them after 10 mins, just to see their reactions!

    • @sportsjefe
      @sportsjefe Před rokem +1

      Last time the editor left in the streamers consenting to have their footage used.

    • @MatthaisUK
      @MatthaisUK Před rokem +4

      Yeah, they had conversations with Zealand last time which was the best part of the video (IMO - this was still good)

  • @FM_Flop290
    @FM_Flop290 Před 5 měsíci

    Could you do a stream or quick play on this channel using the Musterman iconic skin? Its circles for attributes & pie chart for stats. It's my new way of playing.

  • @richardyaboi1902
    @richardyaboi1902 Před rokem

    I leave he match running most of the first half, don’t typically change much so like to see how it pans out

  • @markmartiros660
    @markmartiros660 Před rokem

    I feel so called out on that "Be honest, you read some of those messages." You got me, I need the ego boost sometimes ^_^

  • @TheSteffChris
    @TheSteffChris Před rokem +2

    The second guy exclusively got red face reaction to his player speeches :D i would be so pissed. Reason #1 in my saves why I sub some people. I swear to god game. Dont give me that attitude.

  • @danjames2494
    @danjames2494 Před rokem

    Pulisic Fan is an absolute nightmare in a lot of streams Ze.. banned from a fair few as well

  • @timmah32190
    @timmah32190 Před rokem

    Hiw much does possession matter?
    I am winning a lot but I have 45%

  • @BrockMak
    @BrockMak Před rokem +1

    5:44 How do you get those goal calls? I prefer saves calls myself. I did put myself as a goalkeeping coach as a secondary job.

    • @Anekdotakias.
      @Anekdotakias. Před rokem +4

      These aren't in game, they are songs played on stream when he scores like other streamers have for donations or whatever

  • @nikostourkos8166
    @nikostourkos8166 Před rokem

    Does anyone knows where to find the saves on steam?I want them for backup to play them also in a second pc because cloud has stuck.

  • @login7008
    @login7008 Před rokem +1

    Great morrocan shirt ⭐

  • @loonyloser1733
    @loonyloser1733 Před rokem

    I'll do play-by-play for a lot of matches when playing by myself, other than for big matches then I go hyper-focused manager mode.
    "I'd be playing a FPS and probably making a lot more money." 🤣

  • @marcusrashid
    @marcusrashid Před rokem

    Funny quotes
    "When i play by myself"
    "Take my home country roads"

  • @mehmetsahin253
    @mehmetsahin253 Před rokem

    0:45 a cause of execution

  • @RebelinGames
    @RebelinGames Před rokem +3

    "Cherryjuice". does America not have blackcurrant zealand?

  • @tommynott4310
    @tommynott4310 Před rokem +2

    Attriubute free works well if you have the right skin, which presents the polygons and report card on the first player page. Its a ton of fun and I would recommend you give it a go!

  • @arimarismacon
    @arimarismacon Před rokem

    Zeeland imitating Lllujo as a goal is scored with an American twist is one of the funnier moments to me.

  • @hammy019
    @hammy019 Před rokem

    Guys any tips on how to get the board to build a new stadium or is it just luck. 2040 is my year, taking dover athletic to the prem, won everything but now just want that 60,000+ seat stadium instead of my 30,000 lol

  • @frankosei5669
    @frankosei5669 Před rokem

    Zealand please can you make a video on width and tactics?

  • @-p-s6809
    @-p-s6809 Před rokem

    Where do i get crowd songs like the first guy had...?

  • @BrockMak
    @BrockMak Před rokem +1

    2:22 Works better for me on mobile than PC, to be fair.

  • @SMiThaYe
    @SMiThaYe Před rokem +1

    Smaller streamers teaching Zealand good Football Manager etiquette 😆

  • @Jb33124
    @Jb33124 Před rokem

    I play on full, maximum speed for every game. I do not care for any other speed as the game takes too long, which is the least interesting part of the game for me.
    I like the internals of the game. By which I mean the building a team/tactics, managing the club, building youth systems etc.

  • @BrockMak
    @BrockMak Před rokem

    5:12 I must do that. My PC is terrible.

  • @angrygopnik2317
    @angrygopnik2317 Před rokem

    In 3:25, on the unused subs bench there is a player called Kalle Ringberg that plays ST. I have the exact same player playing in the exact same position in my own save. I searched the name and it appears that this person is actually the Senior UI/UX designer of Sports Interactive 🤣🤣 Man put himself in the game and hardcoded himself as a striker 🤣

    • @lowencraft1404
      @lowencraft1404 Před 10 měsíci

      So like Erwan Betrancourt and Kane Fullalove

  • @joefranks557
    @joefranks557 Před rokem

    Wonder what the DCMA song was.

  • @spicedaddy1976
    @spicedaddy1976 Před rokem

    it's the scott chegg guy

  • @mddm3814
    @mddm3814 Před rokem

    Love the morocco jersey🇲🇦❤️

  • @BrockMak
    @BrockMak Před rokem +2

    9:48 You can't even see their height and weight? Unless if I have a few memorized, it doesn't work for me. Hell: I don't even remember my actual height most of the time, and I know I won't fit my own tactics as I'm WAY too short.

    • @SuccimusPrime
      @SuccimusPrime Před rokem +2

      He can see height/weight. Its right above his webcam

  • @CaptainFishbeard
    @CaptainFishbeard Před rokem

    :D The noises! I make the noises too

  • @nickfury8973
    @nickfury8973 Před rokem +1

    Cult is doing moneyball saves - no attributes

  • @thefridge3831
    @thefridge3831 Před rokem

    I need to know what the song was!

  • @teetoatler0me
    @teetoatler0me Před rokem +2

    It's cool when you can spend a long time doing something but still manage to learn new things when watching someone else.

  • @coneill20010
    @coneill20010 Před rokem

    Attribute Free /Bow

  • @haitambarez8584
    @haitambarez8584 Před rokem

    We love that Moroccan kit ❤️🇲🇦🇲🇦

  • @dominicwatts7107
    @dominicwatts7107 Před rokem +1

    Probabbly drinking dark fruits

  • @m33446
    @m33446 Před rokem

    big up that man haha

  • @falagarius
    @falagarius Před rokem

    Do you really use your tablet Zealand?

  • @jonreddon3989
    @jonreddon3989 Před rokem +1

    He can drink whatever he wants if he’s wearing that shirt,

  • @megusta9268
    @megusta9268 Před rokem

    For about 10 frames hull city was top of the prem. Wasn't gonna miss that

  • @piotrpalczewski6391
    @piotrpalczewski6391 Před rokem +1

    We NEED to know what song that was in first stream though

    • @MatthaisUK
      @MatthaisUK Před rokem

      Yeah, it's one thing to mute the song for DCMA, but if you're still going to include any kind of mention of it you need to let us know the details.

  • @reflectivepizza2133
    @reflectivepizza2133 Před rokem

    What’s the song name :( ? 3:11

  • @welshwizzard8209
    @welshwizzard8209 Před rokem +2

    i reckon he’s going realistic, all you would have at your disposal in real life would be to see your tactic, you might have an idea of what the opponents tactic is but you may miss changes that they make mid game , like you wouldn’t be told before the game that they’re playing 4-4-2 for example, however you might think they will

    • @joehunt390
      @joehunt390 Před rokem

      Usually each teams line up is out an hr prior to game with formation, mayhaps lower leagues would be over it but top teams would be all over that, also unless its first few games of the season by a new manager at a club majority of managers play same or similar most every game so wouldn't be to hard to predict

  • @makenziestancer146
    @makenziestancer146 Před 11 měsíci

    I live in boston england

  • @testertesteb4915
    @testertesteb4915 Před rokem

    There is a mod in fmscout that changes the attribute numbers to stars. I think it’s pretty cool and makes for a surprisingly fun experiences instead of the same old numeric approach.

  • @brunovanzuky1544
    @brunovanzuky1544 Před rokem +2

    CultOf tells team to waste time then asks "what are you doing?"...

    • @BeardiusMaximus
      @BeardiusMaximus Před rokem

      Lol I was laughing at that

    • @peterallton5366
      @peterallton5366 Před rokem +1

      Doesn’t everybody do that, closely followed by “he’s free kick it to him you idiot” ?

  • @mackemforever
    @mackemforever Před rokem

    I wonder, did he deliberately pick 3 people using the Zealand skin or is it a coincidence?

  • @pepsipker16
    @pepsipker16 Před rokem

    Did not expect a new video while staying up til 4:30... not complaining though

  • @06-shreetdave21
    @06-shreetdave21 Před rokem

    Zealand said "If you did know that, hit the subscribe button". Guess who is gonna have one less subscriber from now on xD

  • @jonander1992
    @jonander1992 Před rokem

    The second player had a huge negative bank balance, right?

  • @Utsav_03
    @Utsav_03 Před rokem

    My ceo doesn't want to upgrade any infrastructure, doesn't want to set up a affiliated club or increase scout number..does talking negatively in press conference force him to resign?

    • @elsesiy2ronaldo
      @elsesiy2ronaldo Před rokem

      Anyways, it is more likely to have you fired than to actually work in your favor.

  • @JamieBrenneis
    @JamieBrenneis Před rokem

    STATS

  • @pavelpenkov8085
    @pavelpenkov8085 Před rokem +1

    Dude, "Yantra Gabrovo" :) :) :) I live 15 miles away from Gabrovo(Yantra - the name of the river; Gabrovo - the name of the city). They are a very s*itty team IRL. No idea why is this dude playing with them :)

  • @cyphergod5450
    @cyphergod5450 Před rokem

    🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @joelvaldes252
    @joelvaldes252 Před rokem +1

    God, Zealand is so hot

  • @BrockMak
    @BrockMak Před rokem

    1:21 I'd ban him, too. My philosophy is aerial dominance, so 6'1"+ across the board, 6'3"+ at strikers, 6'4"+ for CB, 6'5" + for goalkeepers.

  • @Marxak666
    @Marxak666 Před rokem

    I do make it as good as i can with my commenting during a match :)

  • @BrockMak
    @BrockMak Před rokem

    9:24 I don't do that. If we lose, I just run it back to the end of the previous day.

  • @vtexo
    @vtexo Před rokem

    Boston United 🧡🖤🧡🖤

  • @maxgreenwood600
    @maxgreenwood600 Před rokem

    Absolutely loved Cult0F’s Barnsley moneyball saved - prompted me to play an attribute free save after seeing it