Is A Loved One Developing Dementia? 3 Tests You Can Do to Find Out.
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Who else is here to check on yourself? Lol
Lol, I failed John's address and I'm not even 40. Being a mom is rough on the short term memory 🤣
@@eandm_creations being a person in 2020 is hard :)
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Loved One ???? I failed the first two, and I don't even remember what the third was !! Happty Rememmemmbbemrmeance day
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Merry 🎄 Christmas
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Merry Christmas Bob & Brad❤️
Thanks, I am 69 and my wife is 64 , we sometimes wonder about ourselves when we have a skip in memory, these tests really helped to give us confidence that our memory is okay and not a worry. You two have helped ourselves and our children with many physical problems with your tests and exercises.
Funny thing the mind is! I have more than 4 decades of administering cognitive tests to individuals as a Medical Social Worker. I was in a therapy room as a patient (I had administered several assessments over the previous decade with a lady who couldnt couldn't recall names of family or what she had eaten for breakfast and had Dementia among other cognitive concerns). The lady heard my voice and recognized it, we made eye contact, shared a smile and went on our way. The Next time we saw each other she approached me asking 'Have we met before? I know I know you from somewhere?' The expressions on the faces of PT, ST and OT as well as DON were priceless. '( I had worked in this facility and knew her history, she had Dementia). Meeting a person where they are was something that has guided me well through the last several decades and administering routine assessments was one of the tools I used. I responded 'Well you look familiar to me too but I don't recall from where.' Now in my opinion, the therapists are outstanding therapists and good people. The lady experienced a view change that day and instead of just doing the routine that had been ordered by a doctor she started to provide positive encouragement to others.
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Merry Christmas Bob and Brad! Thanks for all your information that you freely share. Blessings to you both!
Sure do love you guys and your intro song has been stuck in my head since day one! Love it!
I take care of my mother who has dementia. I moved myself and my children up North just for this purpose. It is very strenuous work, there are better days than others, and my muscles ache every day. My medical background and degree have served us well and she is still kind and loving. I wish you all a very Merry Christmas, mom doesn't even realize it's Christmas today, and a Happy New Year!
That's a tough road to walk. Good luck. Merry Christmas.
It is heartbreaking to watch the mind decline in a loved one. It is so important to start your day gathering your gratitudes and humor to start each day. How important is the day month and year for someone who no longer has to keep up with work and school schedules? How important is it to know who is currently president, if you have never been interested or talked about politics in general your whole life?..... Safety, feeling loved and cared about, feeling included are all much more important. Laughter, remembering old times are just as important. Love them for as long as you have them, take breaks to keep your spirits revived. Accept help, if it is not offered ask for it in specific ways. Be pliable like clay, modify as needed. People with dementia cannot help it. Practice and pray for the patience and courage and strength that loving kindly someone suffering dementia requires. Realize that there may come a time your loved one will need around the clock care....something that no one individual can provide 24 hours everyday. It is a very hard road sometimes, search to find the blessings in everyday things. Some things that happen aren't funny at the time, but you may be able to see the humor in the situation at a later time. May you all be blessed during this often tragic time. Some things are worth forgetting. They remember other loved ones who have passed away, but forget they have died.....you don't necessarily need to remind them of it, for it is a fresh hurt/ pain each time. I learned this in practicality. When Mom would say for instance "I wonder how Mary is doing, I haven't seen her for a while"...... Instead of reminding her that Mary had died and that I had taken her to the funeral. . I felt it more appropriate to say, " You know I haven't seen her in a while either, I will check up on her". And just leave it at that. Also they don't always feel they are the age they actually are..How pleasant for them that must be.....You don't need to remind them, it can be a big shock to them, what does it matter. Love, kindness, caring and safety are the most important things.....and that requires taking care of yourself and recharging your own batteries from time to time.
@@ksize3147 thank you for your encouragement and lessons. She is a child in her mind now and we laugh everyday and play. She's tired most of the day. She's 60 and has been declining for almost 5 years now. Thank you for the lovely ideas some I knew and some I didn't. I will put them in to practice.
Thank you. Interesting and helpful video!
Thanks for bringing it to our attention !
All the best 🌲 Bob and Brad and Thank You for everything You do!
You fellas are such an encouragement! Thank you both, for being there. Merry Christmas and blessings in the coming year!
Merry Christmas Bob and Brad!
You guys are the best!!!!!! I love your videos. Thank you from a nurse in Oregon 😊
Make sure they have adequate vision and hearing. ;)
Thanks for sharing these! I am an inpatient PT. I have used the mini mental for patients with neuro conditions. But OT and especially speech focus more on cognitive testing. I have seen some neurologists and psychiatrists use them too.
Her 8 th grade education is equal to college degree these days
I think I took this test before but not really sure. I'll take it again thanks to bill and Fred the most famous insurance saleman on the radio.
Merry Christmas!
Well I'd fail having to remember a random name and address. I couldn't recall that stuff as a teen and still can't recall that now.
Thank you giving such good and needed advice for living a productive life with your light-hearted style.
Merry Christmas God bless you 🙏 🙏🙏
Merry Christmas 🤶🎄🎅
I wish you would feature an OT!!! :)
I love you. Thank you
My mom has been making me really scared because she keeps mentioning to me that she can’t remember a lot of things lately, like for example she’ll buy me a new dress and a week later she’ll be like where did u get that dress, or she won’t remember going out at all. This made me feel a bit better. She’s gone through a lot in the last two decades, one thing after another with no break, so I think it’s just anxiety and stress taking a big toll on her.
It might be a good idea to give her one of these tests. People who notice they are having memory problems and mention it often are aware of the issues of early dementia. Her forgetfulness seems to be more than stress since she even forgot going out shopping much less buying the dress for you. Maybe she’d be willing to let you go with her to a doctor appointment to check her memory and screen for mini-strokes, medications that could cause memory issues, depression/stress that you’ve mentioned, or forms of dementia that could be helped with medication, supplements (like B12 or iron), or behavior modification (like reminder notes around the house and large calendars). The Alzheimer’s Association has a lot of free information on their website to help you if you need it. (My mother in law had dementia and I’ve run a caregiver support group for 15 years).
Hopefully. Good thing she has you to look after her.
Almost too afraid to try these out on my senior parents but they're good indicators.
When a person starts off with a high level of intelligence - it can take more digression before these tests show a change. My mom is one of those. However it was helpful for us to see that while she was making changes, she was still good to be at home. We were given time to make plans for her, however, knowing that we clearly saw her changing. It's been 2 years now - and just this week she wasn't able to do math in her head. She could still do math and had no idea what day of the week we were at and had lost concept of time. The mind is a very curious thing.
I like the way you both dress.
I’m not sure about those tests.......I am just glad that they are not a part of any type of DUI testing because I would be in real trouble! And no doubt a lot of other people too!!
as they mentioned, i had one of these done after stroke.
Thank you having trouble getting my husband to a nurrologiist
I did the test but I can’t remember where put the results..I’d do it again but I can’t remember why....Merry Christmas Bob and Brad...thank you for the help over the years.
If you google search these tests, they will come up very easily, within the top 5 results, you can get the PDFs
1- short blessed test 2- slums examination 3- mmse
What happened when loved one passes the doctor test but is very confused? My mother passed the test at doctor but next day she has no idea where she is. Tells people she talked to people whom are long dead. Can’t remember where bathroom is, but doctor said she passed the test. She calls everyone by the wrong name, she thinks she is living in a house that was torn down 30 years ago and wants to live with her sister that died 20 years ago, but the doctor said she passed the test. She go scammed out of $9,000 the same woman whom would send a $25.00 check wrapped in paper when sending in the mail, but mailed $9,000 in cash. She tells me she drove here and there and drives all the time, yet we took her car 4 months ago. The simple tests are not reliable.
I think I’d have problems with counting backwards from 100 by 7s!!! Might help me fall asleep!!! Merry Christmas!! 🎄 forgot to tell you that I LOVE this video/love your channel!!! Happy New Year!!!
Accountant sitting next to bed.clickety click click zzzzz
It was recommended to count backwards from 1,000.
@@TheSuzberry oh man I must have misunderstood!! Or forgot!!! I don’t know if I could do 1,000!!! I’d definitely fall asleep!! 💤
@@melodythemassagetherapist6957 I count from 100 backwards, 99 98 97 96 .. As fast as I can, drowns out all other thoughts .. over and over than zzzzzzz
Hi @@jmack619!!! Hahaha yes!!!! Love it!!! Would be sooo much easier than by 7s!!!!!
yeah i would never be able to remember the 3rd one
Most of these questions may depend on whether they are exercising their brains or not. Unfortunately, many are only able to spend time watching TV or "staring at the wall" in different facilities, and aren't encouraged to "work their brains". My 87 yo Mom in law is pretty sharp! Her husband is somewhat slowing down. She is pretty active and reads a lot (Nursing journals/was a nurse) and biographies, etc. (not many romance novel-type books). He does some to a lesser degree, but may be affected by medications.
What? The questions are so simple that if a person misses ANY of them it would seem there is a mental problem! Any at all!
Anyway there are three surefire signs of dementia, the first is memory loss, and I don’t recall the other two.
Merry Christmas! 🎄🎄🎄
Joe! Is that you, come on man ! You know.. the deal !
I’m not a math person. I’m 100% aware of the question subtract 7 from 100. Keep going as far as you can. Obviously, there is a pattern. I’m not looking forward to that question when the time comes.
My husband did the clock test. He put numbers on the clock but no hands. Even after prompting he didn’t realize the hands were missing.
My uncle Joe keeps sniffing children's hair and muttering truannannanashabadapresher and battacathcare. He forgets where he is at times. He's 78 and I suspect dementia
I suspect you’re right @John Rice
If he were my uncle I’d keep him close to home ... maybe set him up in the basement - that way you can keep an eye on him 😉👊
@@Granmabarb Get him LOTS of CORNPOP !! and give him a teleprompter with random words that don't make sense. That will keep him busy for months!! Caution !! GET A SOUND PROOF ROOM !!
We are just having a bit of fun! MERRY Christmas! We are All ina this together, weather we like it or not. Dont be sheeple
@@jmack619 weather?
I had a weird thing happen to me, I didn't know I forgot my phone in the house but I went back into the house and I was like something is trying to tell me something that I forgot or forgot to do, I checked all of the appliances and made sure nothing was on I made sure all the lights were off and thought well I guess I did the checklist so I went to work, then realized at work that I had left my phone. I didn't "forget" my phone (well I did but) I didn't forget that I had to bring it or anything like that but something was telling me that I left it behind.
Fun fact that I heard the other day, the guy who invented the PIN for the credit card; it was supposed to be seven numbers but his wife said I'm not going to remember seven numbers and I doubt anybody else is going to want to so he made it four numbers. I have to bring a sticky note just to remember the one thing that my daughter wanted from the store, is somebody says hi and I say hi back or whatever happens on my drive there I get to the store and immediately forget what I was supposed to get for her, not the exact thing but she wants a certain colored box of food not the red but the blue.
Good information but with the covid isolation and removal from social factors I can't see this as being a valid test in 2020. Still a good baseline but wait for more normal life to make a decision.
C'mon man!! Look, here's the deal. Look, you wanna do pushups or something man? I know back in the day when I met Corn Pop at the swimming pool, that was when I realized that I got hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun. So I learned about roaches, and I learned about kids jumping on my lap. And I've loved kids jumping on my lap.
AHHHH The sweet smell of rusty Razor blades on a rusty rainbarrel
Nice Biden quote.
Hahahaha
Lol!
@@PuppetDreams can't believe we got Biden the pervert as President... 🙄
My mom is 84 and neurologist did brain scans and says they show pre-dimentia/AD. Everyone can tell she has problems with memory. But there are other symptoms, like she stopped being able to control the tv with a controller with direction buttons, up, down, left, right. She stopped being able to relate the directions to moving the highlight box on the tv interface, like from one show to the next show. She wants to move the box left but can not make the connection that the left button is how to do it. I'll show her, then she'll get it. But within an hour or day she's right back not being able to remember. That seems to me not a simple matter of loss of working short term memory.
I'm so worried about her, she's chronically dehydrated (she refuses to drink water) and I'm convinced this is only making matters worse. We can all tell she's getting worse. But she totally refuses to admit there's anything wrong more than slight memory loss which is normal for someone her age. She's falling down regularly, has fallen 7 times in the last 12 months. She has to use a cane to walk around now.
I just read the medicine she takes for overt active bladder, solifenacin, makes dementia worse in some patients.
I had traumatic brain injury, so it looks like dementia.
sorry to hear that. i can relate. i had ECT treatments years ago...havent passed one of those tests ever
Bob and Brad can you help me by telling me what can be done for Adhesive Arachnoiditis.
Would teenagers be able to draw a face clock? I bet most of them have never seen one.
I've been forgetting where I put stuff, especially if I put it in a slightly a different place than I normally do. I am having trouble remembering the names of some of the newer people at my bible study group as well. I think its my medication. It is a bit scary!
Stress can also cause short- term memory loss or not remembering names and locations.
Could somebody send me the link to the document because the link I’m the description isn’t working and after searching for it I can’t seem to find it in the internet
Actually John Brown lives next door to me also. Ha. Coincidence. Way to Go. Hi mom's keep pressing on.
I'm not sure if I have it or not so I took the test. I don't remember the results but I think I'm ok.
Sounds like you need a high level government job
Count backwards from 100 by 7’s? Hahaaaa!
it's not that hard. i do it every night to fall asleep.
Draw the face of a clock...I wonder will most patients fail that question in 20 years because of the digital clocks. How about testing dementia with the successful use of a rotary phone? I bet most 15-year-olds today will be deemed demented.
I'm 28 and I had trouble with remembering name and address O.o
I don’t see the link
I am sick of hearing about these tests .Its frightening people unnecessarily . How much do GPs get for a diagnosis. I have seen a loved one go through this and it was demeaning and insulting as no one condescended to say what would happen at said appointment.
“blessed” was probably the surname of the person who developed the test.
So all my mom has to do, is fail one of these tests and her eyewitness testimony about me pushing my wife in front of a truck doesn't count? Is that correct?
Can you auto caption these videos?
I am thinking these questions are biased towards audio learners. I have always learned best by seeing text.
Give me text or picture and I’ll remember those images. Tell me about them and whoosh, in one ear and out the other.
you didnt ask about bob brown 42 maple street again
Dont worry, you will forget 2020. How do I know? Well, in 2020 I learned that most people are unaware that we have been in the midst of several pandemics for years, decades even. HIV is alive and doing quite well. Heart disease is killing most of the world population every year, followed by kidney disease. Let us not forget cancer and the flu. Familiarity does not cause a disease to drop out of the category of pandemic. Sadly, most of the time, heart and kidney diseases can be prevented or cured by changing a diet (drop the animal products and ease way way back on the salt). Your vascular system (which supports your heart and kidneys) is good at healing but scar tissue in your kidneys is there for life. There is a high probability that many cancers can be prevented by diet as well. I am not sure that poverty is on the pandemic list, but I think it should be, but that is just my opinion while the other issues I listed are well known to the medical world.
These are screening tools they are never or should never be used to diagnose dementia
"Blessed" could be someone's surname. So I looked it up and... The Blessed dementia scale (DS) was developed in 1968 by Blessed and colleagues in an attempt to quantify the “degree of intellectual and personality deterioration” (p. 799) in the elderly. I guess this means I don't have dementia, if I could figure that out.
This is a great reply to the video, and much appreciated. It is always interesting to track down the origins of these tools that are used to evaluate us. What stands out the most (to me) is that the (Blessed team) developers of this "evaluation tool" kept it simple, and Bob & Brad support that concept, too. So, thanks to you for going the extra mile and looking it up in order to give us all a better understanding.
John Brown
4215 Market St...my bad
Yeah, Chicago! You can’t find him?
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Cool info on tests that are free, Thx!
You can fix anything? This was informative but you guys didn’t mention that meditation has been proven to improve memory EVEN in dementia patients!
This is often very difficult to get your parents to do. What has helped us is posing it as a competition to see who scores the highest. Fuck dementia 💙
I got a perfect score and I have a tremendous brain Brob and Bad !
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St lois University mental status (slums test) Merry Christmas
Just make sure they have good vision, hearing, and the cognitive test is in their native tongue to get the most accurate result! Also obviously don't expose them to the test frequently for an accurate measure, i know after Trumps MoCa was released we were pushed to using the slums as the amount of people who searched the MOCA surged like an astronomical percentage
I don't even know what you are talking about. Is the sentance backwards or something ?? Word puzzel ??
@@jmack619 i dont know what youre confused about....moca stands for Montréal cognitive assessment....
Me at 24 taking this test
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We all know who scored the highest on that memory recall test, higher than anyone before :) the one, the only, the Donald.
My thought exactly. And he bragged about it. 🙄
Don't forget Joe Biden, with a mind like a steel trap. And President Harris.
I think Blessed is last name of person who designed the test. If my 69y.o. brain remembers correctly.
Best if testing is done by an OT or another health professional who adheres to the way each question is asked, and specific scoring criteria.
I recommend asking your parents’ MD’s to administer a test during an office visit. They might want followup testing or imaging done.
I’m an OT. A test is a starting point. Consider safety/judgment during the whole 24 hours.
What an eye-opener it was for me to spend occasional overnights with my very elderly parents...
At work, my favorite, well-researched test has been The Clockface Drawing, using scoring criteria. It’s non-threatening, quick. Visual-perceptual errors are related to fall risk, etc.
Whats the difference between dementia and brain injury? Are they related? Does one leed to another? Do other cognative issues mimic the symptoms of dementia?
This subject is a spectrum of symtoms at many different intesities and severity. Please dont asume tgat "dementia" is realy just a symptom of interconnected cognative damages and/or injuries. These tests are more or less used to help identify the severity of the symptoms, the possible rate of progressiveness and to help ccreate a targeted prognosis treatment.
And honestly i think these two should stick to what tgey know insteas of coming up with video content to kepp their 2million subscribers happy.
Im sorry, i mean 1,999,999 subscribers.
So long youtuber hacks! Best of luck to ya both!!!
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What? Are you serious about this? Of course a brain injury is not related to dementia..
The Government. Potato salad!
I feel like you guys are over posting and losing your way........ You are physical therapists. Stick to that. I miss the focus you had
Most children and teenagers could not pass the address test, so they must have dementia. Proof of this is to have them repeat the instructions you just gave them....
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This must be the man, woman, camera, TV stunt.
Not sure OTs have the skill set to do Dementia testing. Part of an evaluation yes.
Hey Robert. I'm a PT, my son is an OT and we both are capable and have the training to do dementia testing in our patients.
how do you think Joe Biden would score on any of these tests???
Too much unnecessary talking
Just in time for joe Biden
This is your idea of a Christmas Eve post? Sad . . . 🤨👎
I think it’s valuable.
Bob and Brad can you help me by telling me what can be done for Adhesive Arachnoiditis.
We don't currently have a video on that topic but we can add it to our to-do list. Thanks for watching!