I think I understand what Elijah meant. He likes chicken that is marinated to the meat, has flavor when biting the meat, instead of relying on crunch or flavors coating outside. It's a different point of view but I like his honesty
if he doesn't like it, then it is not for him. Nothing to be really serious. it's his opinion. he doesn't have to say he likes even he didn't like it because he is on youtube or something. As korean it would be great if he enjoyed alot, but even he didn't it is okay. everybody is different.
I love his honest review and I can totally understand where his review came from. but the way he delivered the comment was another thing. Maybe just his personality. But it's a struggle watching Josh And Ollie tried hard to keep the mood.
The mood they try to create doesn't match the guys mood. He's more a chill undertone perosn. JOLLY are over the top bubbly and oveally embracing and extroverted from the start which a lot of ppl aren't
@@0oooooo0 He just really really really really really wants people to love Korean food. And I have a feeling the guest kind of revels in the idea of going against the grain so I have a feeling that tension was played up a little bit by them. But whatever it was a fun video lol
I honestly can't process it. Living off the chicken shop stuff in the UK through my uni years, to going and getting chicken in Hongdae (Seoul), it's just not even in the same world, it's like comparing fine dining risotto with tender love and care to a "risotto" left to simmer with 4 tesco ingredients for 30mins. I can understand not being a fan of yangyeom, but the actual batter with less sauce on it.. I mean there's no world for me where it isn't just incomparably better. Korean OG is like what western brands put on their TV adverts, compared to the greasy mess you actually get.
@@Tridentus But it's clear that she thinks what is "better" is what she's familiar with. Definitely not a real connoisseur, as she can't judge the Korean stuff on its own merits, but only in comparison with the British stuff she has as a benchmark.
@@Tridentus it’s because the guest has a young taste. He likes sweet, he doesn’t like the batter and says too crispy. It says something about what he only tasted and his own likes. I don’t think he is really a connoisseur in the strict sense. He is a connoisseur in CZcams name lol. Coz I agree with you, it’s quite greasy on the western recipe of chicken. I usually can agree if they judged the chicken quality more convincingly. Lol. And yes, maybe just us who can’t agree how he judged the chicken🤔
@@mariadocarmosobreira8323 you define what’s best in comparison of what you already know. Literally every single guest on this channel does the same and Josh and Ollie do it as well. It only bothers you cause he didn’t prefer the versions which were presented to him here.
why is everyone in this comment section so sensitive? this video wasn't tense at all, Chicken connoisseur's content is literally a harsh and scrupulous review of wherever he goes, which is why getting a 4 or above is seen as a great positive. Ollie and Josh will have known this just like everyone familiar with his content is. Please stop crying in the comment section on there behalf its embarrassing.
I know this video is old, but i just was so sad when I read comments. Never seen this kid before, but i think he was genuinely funny and honest. Why everyone so mad? He gave high grades (most of the grades was around 4 and it's a lot when it's out of 5) I hope when he read comments it didn't affect him much
I can't remember a single guest saying they didn't like Korean fried chicken. Elijah's honesty is a breath of fresh air that was desperately needed from the barrage of positive praise from everyone else. Great video, amazing collab, but I still felt a pang of pain when Elijah gave the chicken a 3.4.
Same feelings I have when Josh, Ollie and Gabie were disappointed with Jollibee's menu (except for Chickenjoy) when other channels give it high praises.
@@LuciferLizardo I mean you can't blame them, the was the first Jollibees in UK, and looking at how pale the chicken was, pretty sure the branch effed it up, the chicken joys from Cardiff though were looking Good.
그냥 딱 서양식 치킨인 크고 구운듯한 느낌에 엄청 기름지고 자극적인 쪽을 더 좋아하시는 타입이여서 바삭함과 깔끔한? 맛을 추궁하는 한국식 치킨을 그다지 좋아하질 않으신듯 ㅋㅋ 이런 치킨도 있다라고 소개를 했지만 딱 확고한 자신의 생각을 토대로 하시는 느낌이 없지않아 있긴해요 근데 뭐 사람마다 입맛이 다른거니 어쩔 수 없다 생각해야죠 안좋아하면 안먹으면되고 좋아하면 계속 먹는사람은 먹을테니까
Lmfao! 100% agree. Ollie was trying so hard, but the guest just didn't really "click" with him. And it felt like Ollie was actually trying to ramp it up even more just to try to get the guest to react in some way.
He didn’t share the full story. Koreans learned how to cook fried chicken from blacks back in the war. Koreans adapted it and instead of frying once Koreans would do a double fry which is how it holds its crispy texture even when sauced. So they learned it from blacks but took it to another level. I’m black and I’m just going to say it. Koreans make the best fried chicken. 😮I said what I said 😅
Ollie did a lot of heavy lifting on this video! Always amazing with the jokes. I don’t buy the CNSR’s assessment. Felt Josh and Ollie had to squeeze a lot of jolliness from this video to make up for the lack of enthusiasm from the guest.
i think the attempted humour/compliment in the beginning made the young man a little tentative and in turn rigid......understandable if they didnt have a prior acquaintance.
I get the sense that the Chicken Conoisseur only does southern spicy fried chicken. There’s tons of fried chicken around the world. And KOrean is one of the more popular/trending ones right now. So very surprised that he never tried.
He was famous a few years ago for rating London "Chicken Shop" chicken. Those that live in London know the cultural relevance of the chicken shop, its not the same as going to a big franchise like KFC/Jollibee etc for example. Usually very cheap and unpretentious and run as a business by Asian families until stupid hours in the morning but every one does more or less the same menu but it just varies how good they make the chicken. People eat there after a boozy night out or secondary school kids get it as cheeky snack after school. Its quite difficult to describe to someone who hasn't grown up in London or big UK cities but that's the type of chicken establishments he rates.
I think the problem was not in the candid rating, which is appreciated, but the attitude. He came off as being determined not to be wowed, which probably was felt by Josh and Ollie and made the whole vibe a tad uncomfortable. “Connoisseur” doesn’t mean “hard to please.”
Reading many comments appreciating the guest’s honesty . Not gonna lie, I feel like he is the type of person if you say something is good, he will say its bad. If you say something is bad, he will say its good. Lol.
you should watch few of this guy videos then you will know this guy is totally about flavour on the meat and thin chicken skin but not that crunchy,which really the weakness of korean fried chicken JOLLY clearly didnt do they homework before they invite this guy
@@kpopre-viewdrop-3906 nope, he already set a bar for him how any chicken dish he gonna rate for and of course everyone has its own preferences, if he change the rating system he head just because JOLLY invite them its basically lying to his subscriber, because their subscriber know what he based his ratings on if he was rating all of those ultra thick battered chicken is 4,7 now go imagine how disappointed his subscribers are when they were trying those chicken and found out that those chickens is not thinly battered? idk how you people blaming it to this guy, he just staying true to himself and tried to be honest just because you like something, doesnt mean everyone should like it, this guy already stated why he rate those chicken quite low, and its subjectively true
To be fair, I don't think that guy is a chicken expert 😂🤷🏻♀️. I think he's an expert on what HE likes, but you have to be objective when rating a food or drink. He pretty much proved that when he said he'd rate chicken with cheese a 1 because he doesn't like cheese. He's not factoring in many things, the crunch is something that many many people find to be the most appealing thing about fried chicken. Also, the country of origin, spices, and different cultural tastes should be taken into consideration. A wine conissuour/sommelier doesn't rate a wine based purely on their own preferences, but on many different factors. I just don't think this an accurate assessment of Korean fried chicken. By the way, the guy is 29 years old. He's no child.
@@bloopbleep173 Guessing you haven't seen the so called experts video's then.. Also in no way was it meant as a joke or to be joking. The guy has issues with anything that he doesn't like but hides it as being a expert. To which he doesn't even reach that level. he has never eaten chicken outside of London. He has never eaten anything other than UK prepared chciken. Sorry he is about as much an expert as i'm the president of the US.
The thing about Korean Chicken is (and I've eaten some in South Korea too) It does relied heavily on the sauce and breading. The Fried Chicken itself (the original one) is not actually that different than normal KFC (depends on what shop u eat in or what country u eat the kfc from) Korean Chicken is very good compared to like most western fried chicken But if u went to Asia, especially south or south east Asia, u could find fried chicken with marination that's absorbed to the bone. And it made Korean Chicken somewhat pale in comparison. So yeah if he eat a lot of soul food type of Fried Chicken, pretty sure he's very honest about his review on this.
평가를 한다면 선입견이 없는 중립적인 스탠스가 중요하다고 생각하는데 어떤 기준인지에 대한 설명도 없고 그냥 난 덜 바삭한걸 좋아해 난 덜 달아서 싫고 난 단걸 좋아해....치즈가 더해진건 1점일거다... 이건뭐 그냥 굉장히 지극히 개인적인 견해라고 보여집니다 전문가라는 말은 옳지 않아보이네요 ㅎㅎ
I checked out some of Elijah’s other videos before writing and it seems like he is normally more relaxed and detailed with some of his reviews so I’m wondering what was making him seem so uncomfortable.
Culture. It's not easy interacting with people with a diffent personality to him. Plus they WANTED him to react a certain way. The jokes doesn't make sense if you aren't fromm a certain background
Yeah I watched his videos since he first went viral and blew up. I figured fame, and clash of personalities mixed with the fact he didn't really like the food meant he came across the way he did. Which is really bad. Shame, but well done lads trying your best!
I think the way the were talking about him like he wasn’t there with his first few tries might have made him uncomfortable. They made it awkward before he did.
i respect the guest's opinions but to me, overall it just felt like he was super unenthusiastic to begin with. this video was like watching a kid trying to get fed something new and different by his parents because he only ever wants to eat nuggets or something like that. idk the vibes were just off... not the jolliest of jolly videos for sure 😅
The thing with this guest is that his candid attitude and analysis of the chicken borders on being brash. It maybe wasn’t his intent but it was the effect regardless. Now take this guest and compare it with Sortedfood. Both probably have had some amazing food, including some incredible chicken, and both parties probably have their own ideas and reservations of what qualifies as great food after years of eating and critiquing. The people from sorted however probably take Josh and Ollie’s efforts of arranging these collaborations and including them in their videos much more into consideration. People like Ben and Barry have eaten some amazing cuisine but never try to critique food at the expense of their guests/hosts’ feelings. That’s probably why they’ve had enjoyable experiences with other channels like Korean Englishman and the Sidemen. This is not to say the guest was rude, or acted outright unreasonably. It is just my opinion that their honesty and comments, at times, clashed with the vibe of the video and Josh and Ollie’s efforts of making an enjoyable video centred on him no less.
wow - i'm surprised his mild critique triggered so much thought and feelings, for i thought food reviews were about opinions on things eaten rather than networking.- all i took from this is 'the chicken derives its taste from its coating and condiments rather than the chicken flesh' which in any case is still above average. i also think the attempted humour/compliment in the beginning made the young man a little tentative and in turn rigid......quite understandable if they didnt have a acquaintance prior.
@@jump2itxxx True, his review wasn’t absolutely scathing (a 3.4 tho’s gotta stick out to them even if they don’t show it on their faces) and if he wasn’t used to these kinds of videos before he would be uncomfortable and stiff.
I really don't think it was that bad? In the first minute I shared your opinion, but afterwards it honestly just seemed like a guy with his own character giving his honest opinion (with a bit of his own humour thrown in as well), which, honestly, should be what it's about in food reviews. Like, just because the Korean chicken that Jolly really like didn't get stellar scores from him doesn't mean that he was a bad guest... (I say that, and this is literally the first time I've heard about cnsr. I'm not from the UK)
Thank god for Ollie on this channel, he is always hilarious and genuine, no matter the different energy, reactions of the guests or even if they are funny or not (depends on the viewer I agree), he makes the episode worth it! I'm always going in and keep on watching despite finding the content not quite to my liking some days because I know Ollie will bring a ray of sunshine in the video (no offence for the video or the guest of course, it just depends on everyone's liking)
I can’t finish this. You can’t call yourself a connoisseur if you’re going to rate things low based on just what you’re used to. The criteria is also skewed. You can’t judge fried chicken the way you would soft-skinned chicken. The purpose of an introduction is that you come into the experience with an open mind. This feels more like he is there to pose as a challenge and they need to impress him instead of a guest they’re sharing a new thing with.
thats kind of how he always is on his own channel too Chicken is never juicy to him, he always calls it watery or something like that instead. Says its pumped with water and not just, juicy, good chicken lmao
most of the comments are mad damn stupid, jolly just invite this guest to try Korean chicken and see if he likes it or not, that's just it, objective or not doesn't matter that much.
The kid was determined not to like stuff. Oh I don't like cheese on my chicken. Doesn't even give it a try which for that dish was extremely important because the cheese balances out the sauce. I'm not that picky. I don't like mushrooms but if I'm given something with them I will eat it. I think you must look at yourself when referring to comments that are "mad damn stupid." lol
@@YoshihitoBLM hows he a clown just because you arent part of his audience? Ive been integrating with the korean culture for the past few years doesnt necessarily mean its for everyone
@@s-0284 Oh no, I have an opinion that differs from yours. Best try to debate it and change it! Dude's a clown. I said what I said, no changing it. Move on.
He presented himself as chicken expert and looks like a famous one in the UK, he got lots of fans around the comments section. Not really convincing and entertaining.
As a black person I knew who he was bc he's more popular within the blk community. In the urban /inner city blk community chicken shop is a huge part of our childhood. It brings back memories and is gernally a fun vibe. His channel is stemmed from that. For white ppl it isn't. And that's okay 👍. He's not actually a full expert 🤣🤣🤣
Ollie actually carried this series, but Me personally, I don't want Elijah to be back to the Channel, he says he's a chicken expert or whatever but doesn't like to try new flavours, sorry.
I think their vibes did not mesh well, they are good on their own. Most guests would laugh at Ollie's humour which generally eases the situation a bit but maybe he wasn't a fan of his jokes hahaha
I'd never heard of the guy. Definitely felt their vibes were a bit too different. It all comes down to taste and he might not like something, but others will. Don't really think eating a lot of chicken makes one a connoisseur, though. 😅😂 He likes his chicken a certain way, so because this chicken is the opposite of that, he's less likely to like it 🤷🏼♀️ Korean chicken is still my favorite, hands down. They just really know what they're doing.
exactly. he just some kid who only eaten one form of chicken in the UK and thinks that he is smart enough to pass judgement. you know what they say about people like that lol...
I feel like Elijah was just there to do his thing and review some chicken. Ollie was trying a bit too hard with his humor this time to fill the awkward silence. You could tell that it might have made Elijah a bit uncomfortable. It was still an entertaining and refreshing video nevertheless :)
Basically he's not a true "connoisseur" but just rating his opinion which is fine. I don't care if he doesn't like something, but he was a terrible guest. He seemed disrespectful of the culture, and channel. He seemed like he was only interested in what style he liked, and not interested in a different approach. He seemed closed minded, which is my issue. The cheese on chicken is an example, especially considering that chicken wasn't fried chicken. Also, is it likely that all that chicken was not good or moist? Really? Josh and Ollie would take him to a bad chicken place? Not buying it.
Korean chicken is overly biased in Korea like Koreans think Korean chicken is the best in the world which is an opinion tbh. And Elijah isn’t certified expert it’s all jokes. He is just giving his own opinion like it or not and I can assure you many people would agree w him including myself
It borderline feels like he's being a little narrow-minded and rude with his delivery. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions but with him being a self-proclaimed expert, his opinion is sometimes treated as a fact when it shouldn't be. He doesn't seem to be open-minded towards the diverse takes on fried chicken. There's a distinct difference between being rude and tactless and being genuine and honest. I couldn't enjoy the video because his attitude was incredibly annoying.
He was who he is. Idk why you expect everyone to be the same???. A LOT of ppl are honest. He was being how he is. He wasn't rude. Jolly expected him to love and adore it bc eveyone else does. But he doesn't and that's okay
I love Korean fried chicken, but I completely understand his sentiment. It reminds me in the Philippines, there is a famous Korean fast food chain and some people love their chicken, some don't because they often said only the skin has taste (because of the sauce) and the meat inside is way too bland. It became a meme and running joke lol but they do try to improve and cater. Appreciate his honesty for that, some people just have different preference. Though I would've appreciated it more if he was nicer about it with less arrogant vibes at least for this episode LOL
What makes a Korean Fried Chicken is the chicken, the extra crispiness batter and also the sauces/coatings, it goes hand in hand. If one decides to judge solely on the chicken, then its not really a Korean Fried Chicken innit? He should call himself Plain Fried Chicken (My Personal Style) Connoisseur instead. And Yangyeom isn't even a spicy type of chicken like those Nashville Hot Chicken (which I believe he's comparing it too) , the flavour profile is sweet and spicy not "dead" for sure.
Just my personal opinion so don't come at me. This is by far my least favorite collab in this channel so far. 1. How can he be a "chicken expert" if he hasn't had Korean chicken? 2. If not for Ollie's jokes, this interaction would be uncomfortable. For some reason it was as if he was forced to be in this channel and he didn't enjoy it. Even the biggest celebs in the world were much more appreciative and respectful towards Josh, Ollie and Koreans for giving them the opportunity to try these food. This isn't about him not liking the chicken, I mean there were guests who weren't fan of kimchi and other spicy food. Here it’s as if he is comparing everything to his own personal taste which basically British chicken. He better off call himself the British Chicken expert then coz his reviews are biased. I respect his honesty, but if not for Ollie's jokes (seems like he was pressured to make a lot of jokes to save the video too), this video would be hella awkward. You can just see it all in Josh’s reactions 😞
Why is everyone so mad at him in the comments food is subjective to each person I’m actually happy we got somebody who had a difference of opinion for once on the Channel. I love Korean fried Chicken and I also love southern fried chicken, And the people saying “never bring him back on the channel again” are overreacting and childish
I used to watch and enjoy a lot of Elijah's videos growing up, didn't expect him to be this cold and hardly make an effort with josh and ollie damnnn don't take life so seriously man
I was so shocked by the low reviews. I got hooked on Korean fried chicken because of these guys. In fact, I just ordered it for dinner, and I can't wait to eat it.🐓
@@VonApennn how can you say something like that when you don't even met this person in reallife just sitting behind a screen tiping your shit not even thinking grow up bro
I think the connoisseur has a point: it's easy for us to be impressed by Korean fried chicken since our bar is so low, but after some years, you do realise that some Korean fried chicken is better than others. Soy Garlic is really good, but yangyeom does get boring after a while
@@superlynnie bro no one agrees with him, hes just got that one specific of taste and hes not willing to accept other tastes which hes not familier to. You can clearly see that hes stuck with his oily spicy chicken, and hes not willing to really open up and accept new flavours, so me personally think it could potentially be their worst collab. Maybe it was cuz mr z set the bar way toooo high
@@oscarxue8642 and he didn’t even know how to taste the different spices in Yangnyeom. It’s sweet and spicy. He is expecting something “spicy” only and that’s why he says he had something like a better spicy chicken? He doesn’t understand Asian spices, sauces etc. He is straight up fried chicken only. I agree with you. He seems to be stuck with that box taste and based the ratings if it enters the box or not. No other rules or new players of taste allowed in it or else out of the game.
is it me... or hes already set his mind before the video started. im getting tht vibe. kinda aggree with ollies comment on... like a somelier who hasnt taste wine
Honestly speaking, this is the first Jolly episode i didn‘t really enjoy watching. Josh seemed kinda uncomfortable and Ollie really had to save the video with his jokes (that were amazing as always. It‘s not that i dislike the honesty and want to see fabricated reviews that just enjoy everything, however i felt that this man was not a Connaisseur but rather someone trying hard to dislike Korean chicken and selling personal preferences as an objective review. Especially on CZcams i feel like the promise of honesty is often confused with being overly critical and searching for (subjective) reasons to back up that critique.
I’ll probably have a hard time accepting his honest reviews😭😂 the chicken lookeddd soooo gooddd especially the last one😂 love Ollie’s sense of humour 😭😭😭😭
@tawanamufasa291 that's what fried chicken is. The coating. No chicken is flavoured. Literally the chicken shop is basic. The lad even says he has a chicken burger. It was obvious he was lying about stuff to keep his channel relevant. He saw them as a threat
you marinate the chicken and then it has flavour inside it since it soaks in and combines with the meat. thats why marinates exist and you dont apply any sauce after cooking since the meat has all the flavour. his whole point was this was crunchy chicken with nice sauce on top but chicken itself was bland@@superspengz
@@Purpelxd the kid who eats plain chicken and a chicken burger is calling it bland??? Dude you know that's a lie. If he would have said too spicy then yeah. But bland
what an awkward video. i couldnt even finish it but got a good way through it thanks to ollies humor. elijah was DETERMINED not to like anything he tried and was incredibly biased in his "ranking". i felt bad for josh and ollie. ollie did a good job trying to ease the tension with jokes which was much appreciated! love you two! no need to bring this guy back on your channel. from the comments, i dont think anyone wants to see him back. haha
Yea it’s like he felt threatened & insecure that other people had the audacity to like chicken who also sometimes review it on their *two* successful channels! He was stubborn & not entertaining. He wasn’t adaptable enough to the situation & slightly different style of channel. Kudos to Josh & Ollie for trying so hard with him.
this whole channel always has people who ADORE IT. and he doesn't. They were quite literally expect him to love it and he didn't. And that's fine. Korean fried chicken is really really good. But there's other things I love more. As Africans we are used to having deep flavours everywhere. And imo kroean fried chicken hasn't got a lot of it. I have had it 4 diffrent ways in London. Its really tasty and nice. But it's literally extra crispy fried chicken with a sweet sauce. And that was the guys point. If you watch his channel that's how is channel is run..
As a black person I knew who he was bc he's more popular within the blk community. In the urban /inner city blk community chicken shop is a huge part of our childhood. It brings back memories and is gernally a fun vibe. His channel is stemmed from that. For white ppl it isn't. And that's okay 👍. He's not actually a full expert 🤣🤣🤣
@@flala2261 ironically some blk ppl get fired / disregarded for the same reason. We don't have the same humour or back ground. They didn't get his humour and they didn't get his. Snd that's okay. But it's hard to integrate and understand the jokes when you don't understand thw backgorund. I grew up in a white area and ther r certain jokes / mannerism I wouldn't make to a white perons and vice versa. I have been lucky enough to experience both so I know the difference. The problem is if you take either race out of their group and swap them it would be really awkward bc we dont have the same culture. And that's fine but this is where its gets tricky. Bc for work we must try to blend in but it's hard. He quite literally was funny n entertaining if you were blk. Bc blk ppl r very honest and always do the most esp when it comes to trying food.
I think this shows that the thing that makes korean chicken special (the crunch and texture) is actually really subjective. I think a lot of the people on jolly don't particularly like fried chicken, whereas this guy loves the more western style of fattier, softer fried chicken. It doesn't fix anything for him like it does for the other guests, because for him it didn't need to be fixed.
Perfect analysis. I didn’t brought it down like that. Your last sentence sums it up! That’s why I’m on the comments to help me understand and be convinced on what he is saying. aside from one saying the kid is a picky eater, you saying his idea of chicken cannot be fixed are the top perspective on this. Thank you!! I hope he learns how to be a real connoisseur to live up to his name and not just by a name in CZcams and everyone believes him. I was convinced he is not an expert when he said he doesn’t like cheese and would rate it 1. That’s so subjective.
This is one of the best explanations I've seen for this. In his experience the chicken he usually eats cannot really be improved being great as it is. While others see the crunch and less oil as a plus, that for him didn't need change. This makes so much sense. I couldn't wrap my head around the unnecessary tension around this episode. But this makes so much sense, thank you!
And tbh I kind of agree with him. I haven't tried Korean fried chicken, but I feel like I wouldnt really enjoy it either, because I don't like sweet sauces on meat and I also don't like my hands being sticky from eating food covered in sauce. And I never really understood the guests complaining about fried chicken being too greasy... it's full of fatty skin and deep fried, what did you expect? This is a great comment.
This was low-key awkward to watch, and not because he didn’t like much of it. I mean, people have their preferences when it comes to food so that’s okay, but the overall vibe just made it awkward 😬 If not for Ollie and his jokes here and there, this would’ve been a disaster! 🫣
I love how Ollie saved this interview. Josh definitely gave up halfway. He does give fair points but noticed that he only prefers chicken without anything. If the chicken itself is the basis of good fried chicken would that limit his tasting adventure? Seems quite dissapointing even for a chicken connoiseur like him.
He has a point, though - sauce IS often used to hide the quality of whatever the sauce is put on. That doesn't mean that sauce is bad (I love sauce), but it'd probably be better to have an amazing "underlying dish" with al little sauce than a meh "underlying dish" slathered in sauce
But he rates UK chicken shops that are known for being shit. And if he thinks that's the standard then he knows nothing. It's like comparing all burgers to a burger King burger.......
@@acelsg well... afaik he only review fried chicken too, not other chicken dish, but that means he fairly judging it on the fried chicken alone, not the sauce or anything
@@acelsg So... You have to taste every chicken dish around the world to review fried chicken? He does fried chicken, he's good at it and doesn't have unlimited funds. I don't really understand why you're saying that shit.
@@acelsg I think the beautiful thing is that he sort of acknowledged it in the beginning of the video when he said he rated 5 stars for his favourite at the time but it eventually ended up not the best fried chicken that he'd tasted. As he gets the chance to travel more and taste more fried chicken I'm sure his evaluation will change as well. Can't wait until he visit the US South for some good'ole soul fried chicken!
i get where he's coming from. "you want me to eat chicken but this feels like im eating batter and sauce and the chicken is just the spoon" but the whole thing felt very closeminded that really made the video flat. it doesnt make me want to check his videos at all. bring back mr z
He’s far from a connoisseur. He only likes plain chicken and doesn’t have an exquisite palate. What a waste of an episode! Lol. But i still had fun watching Ollie!! 😂
I appreciate the guest’s honesty and i understand where the guest is coming from. But I just think the vibe is a bit off, they didn’t mesh that well so thank you Ollie for being so funny. You saved us from boredom.
I think their audience in general is quite different (which there is nothing wrong with that!) But definitely I personally feel like I couldn't comfortably (?) watch this video ?? Kinda feels a little more tense than I personally like (maybe bc I watch Korean Englishmen/jolly while I eat alone for breakfast and usually want something easy going) Overall this was a different experience! But now I'm definitely curious as to what fried chickens he has given high ratings for. I have a friend who thinks about the same as him about KFC, but when I tried the fried chicken he raved about I was like ??? Anyways long ramble lol
I think it's because the guest took too long to react to the food? You could kind of tell Josh and Ollie were uncomfortable with how long he was taking- and I think them whispering to each other was pissing off the guest as well. Their personalities just didn't gel well
@@zoe4481 yes!! They r just diffrent people. Most peopel on this channel are like THIS IS THE MOST BEST CHICEKN I HAVE EVER TASTED. And for him it's just alright. And that's his opinion and that's fine
치킨전문가분이 솔직히 너무 개취향적인 입맛을 가지고 있으셔서 영상 상황이 보는 사람입장으로 뭔가 이상해졌어요ㅜㅜㅜ 그래도 우리 올리씨가 재치있는 농담으로 상황을 잘이끌어갔네요.. 게스트분이 확실한 아메리칸치킨을 선호 하시는것 같아요…… 처음에 단것을 매우좋아한다는 말에… 이번 게스트섭외는 조금 아쉬웠던걸로~~ㅎㅎㅎ 우리영국남자 이번편 표정들이 너무 위로해주고싶은 표정ㅠㅠㅠ 항상 다양한 컨텐츠 감사해요💕
The chicken it self has no flavour. Its the batter and the sauce. Which give it flavour thats what his point was. Not everyone likes the same things. He explored new flavours and he didn't like it. What's the problem
The sauce is everything when it comes to Korean fried chicken. Without sauce, it is crunchy but bland. I love it, but I can certainly appreciate this kid’s preference for fried chicken that doesn’t depend on the sauce for flavor. A brined buttermilk fried chicken or Nashville hot chicken is flavorful to the bone.
Ollie is like a step dad in this, desperately trying to find some middle ground with his new step son haha
Who’s more like his younger brother as they’re almost the same age
😂
What a golden comment 🤣❤️
Impressively accurate comment
Why is that so accurate
I think I understand what Elijah meant. He likes chicken that is marinated to the meat, has flavor when biting the meat, instead of relying on crunch or flavors coating outside. It's a different point of view but I like his honesty
Yup. I also get where he's coming from.
It is true the actual meat of Korean chicken is just plain relies completely on the coating
Yes this a weakness for Korean Fried Chicken
Yeh but then why not just eat chicken why even fry it
@@cheesecake7274 Its not as though he hated the coating. Having flavor on the surface but also IN the meat is what he is looking for.
if he doesn't like it, then it is not for him. Nothing to be really serious. it's his opinion. he doesn't have to say he likes even he didn't like it because he is on youtube or something. As korean it would be great if he enjoyed alot, but even he didn't it is okay. everybody is different.
Wow, Ollie's humour is on steroids on this one. The jokes are as spontaneous as it gets and on point. 5 stars for this video.
He needs to or else it would’ve been really boring 😅
This video gets 4.5 stars from me, and we all know that rounds up to 5
Round it up to 6, no one disagree with me
@@yumine_ i disagree, round it up to 7
@@dprdenny let’s go for 8, it’s the infinity.
Ollie's comments and how he handles things it's just absolutely brilliant, I love videos where he's also talking and being him, it's just so funny!
ikr I would not have finished this video if it wasn't for Ollie..
I love his honest review and I can totally understand where his review came from. but the way he delivered the comment was another thing. Maybe just his personality. But it's a struggle watching Josh And Ollie tried hard to keep the mood.
The mood they try to create doesn't match the guys mood.
He's more a chill undertone perosn.
JOLLY are over the top bubbly and oveally embracing and extroverted from the start which a lot of ppl aren't
by this comment, I say you don't watch his video's.
@@tawanamufasa291 bro are u elijah's secret account or something why are you commenting everywhere
@@fireteunxphg1485 🤣
@[wet squelch] THIS!!!!!
Josh is living embodiment of the meme that is the crying face behind the smiling mask. You can see a little heartbreaking
This is a hilarious comment. He's a try hard innit. But I love him, he is so sweet and is always up for anything.
@@0oooooo0 He just really really really really really wants people to love Korean food. And I have a feeling the guest kind of revels in the idea of going against the grain so I have a feeling that tension was played up a little bit by them. But whatever it was a fun video lol
I liked his honest review even though most of us would probably think the chicken was out of this world 😀
I honestly can't process it. Living off the chicken shop stuff in the UK through my uni years, to going and getting chicken in Hongdae (Seoul), it's just not even in the same world, it's like comparing fine dining risotto with tender love and care to a "risotto" left to simmer with 4 tesco ingredients for 30mins.
I can understand not being a fan of yangyeom, but the actual batter with less sauce on it.. I mean there's no world for me where it isn't just incomparably better. Korean OG is like what western brands put on their TV adverts, compared to the greasy mess you actually get.
@@Tridentus But it's clear that she thinks what is "better" is what she's familiar with. Definitely not a real connoisseur, as she can't judge the Korean stuff on its own merits, but only in comparison with the British stuff she has as a benchmark.
@@Tridentus it’s because the guest has a young taste. He likes sweet, he doesn’t like the batter and says too crispy. It says something about what he only tasted and his own likes. I don’t think he is really a connoisseur in the strict sense. He is a connoisseur in CZcams name lol. Coz I agree with you, it’s quite greasy on the western recipe of chicken. I usually can agree if they judged the chicken quality more convincingly. Lol. And yes, maybe just us who can’t agree how he judged the chicken🤔
@@mariadocarmosobreira8323 you define what’s best in comparison of what you already know. Literally every single guest on this channel does the same and Josh and Ollie do it as well. It only bothers you cause he didn’t prefer the versions which were presented to him here.
He's here to humble us
why is everyone in this comment section so sensitive? this video wasn't tense at all, Chicken connoisseur's content is literally a harsh and scrupulous review of wherever he goes, which is why getting a 4 or above is seen as a great positive. Ollie and Josh will have known this just like everyone familiar with his content is. Please stop crying in the comment section on there behalf its embarrassing.
This video was tense lol🤡 massive thanks to ollie for toning down the tension with his jokes😂😂 love you Ollie!!
one of the best videos ever, just cause his ranking are low doesnt mean they are biased, he has been scoring low since ages
@@s-0284 Nah, the tension was high, not due to low ratings, but because of his lack of charisma.
If there was tension was because of the guy on the rights dumb comments
Ollie is the real MVP, trying to relax all the tension in this episode. 😂
if you call that relaxing then idk what tf is wrong w you
For real, this episode was awkward.
I know this video is old, but i just was so sad when I read comments. Never seen this kid before, but i think he was genuinely funny and honest. Why everyone so mad? He gave high grades (most of the grades was around 4 and it's a lot when it's out of 5)
I hope when he read comments it didn't affect him much
@Benz Louijie De Paz I wrote that I didn't seen him ever before, how I suppose to know it?
facts, chicken connoisseur is always honest with his reviews
I know him he’s funny and nice like him 😂😂😂😅
Same content different type of people and humour that’s probably why
Because its hard to comprehend, when you like something and someone doesnt like it the way you like it. Very hard to understand for some people
I can't remember a single guest saying they didn't like Korean fried chicken. Elijah's honesty is a breath of fresh air that was desperately needed from the barrage of positive praise from everyone else. Great video, amazing collab, but I still felt a pang of pain when Elijah gave the chicken a 3.4.
Same feelings I have when Josh, Ollie and Gabie were disappointed with Jollibee's menu (except for Chickenjoy) when other channels give it high praises.
@@LuciferLizardo exactly, but in a way it is nice, as Roman said, to hear critique of something and that it doesn’t agree to their particular pallet
@@LuciferLizardo I mean you can't blame them, the was the first Jollibees in UK, and looking at how pale the chicken was, pretty sure the branch effed it up, the chicken joys from Cardiff though were looking Good.
@@gustlightfall Agreed... Let's just hope their commentary won't discourage others to try Jollibee.
나는 또한 그 의견에 동의하는.
영국에 있는 음식점 하나로 평가하는건 애매함.
진짜 한국에 와서 한국에 있는 치킨전문점에 와야 양념치킨의 평가인거지, 저건 그저 저 가게의 평가일 뿐이라고 생각함.
저 가게가 특별히 맛없을수도 있는거고.
치킨 전문가가 아니라, 그냥 칠면조 사이즈만한 미국식 치킨을 좋아하는 사람 같아요. 본인이 좋아하는 맛에 따라 점수가 달라지는 전문가(?)이신 듯.
그냥 딱 서양식 치킨인 크고 구운듯한 느낌에 엄청 기름지고 자극적인 쪽을 더 좋아하시는 타입이여서 바삭함과 깔끔한? 맛을 추궁하는 한국식 치킨을 그다지 좋아하질 않으신듯 ㅋㅋ
이런 치킨도 있다라고 소개를 했지만 딱 확고한 자신의 생각을 토대로 하시는 느낌이 없지않아 있긴해요 근데 뭐 사람마다 입맛이 다른거니 어쩔 수 없다 생각해야죠 안좋아하면 안먹으면되고 좋아하면 계속 먹는사람은 먹을테니까
치킨 전문가란 말이 어이가 없네요 치킨쪽 외식업에 종사하는 사람도 아니고 그냥 치킨매니아 정도인듯합니다 국뽕에차있다 이런글 쓰는게아니라 저사람 태도가 거만하고 건방지네요 그냥 모든게 본인 입맛에 안맞아보임...
아니면 저 집이 맛이 없는지도 ^^
영어 댓글들만 봐도 외국인들도 태도가 조금 신경 쓰이는듯..
튀김류에 바삭함 좋지않다? 무슨논리지?눅눅한걸 좋아 하시나?
Ollie and the Connoisseur interacting is like an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object.
Under-rated comment👺
Lmfao! 100% agree. Ollie was trying so hard, but the guest just didn't really "click" with him. And it felt like Ollie was actually trying to ramp it up even more just to try to get the guest to react in some way.
This comment was so PERFECT
it was like gordon ramsey interacting with a kitchen nightmares owner
Ollie is totally the backbone on this channel
He is just the best!!!👍👍👍
Right? Love his energy
Agreed! He has single-handedly revived and kept jolly and Korean Englishmen going despite adversities.
he has always been the backbone even when he doesnt appear in the videos
@트윗녀 풀버젼 보는방법 dont really understand what the hell you talking about
Ollie's humor is great, but Josh's personality balances the atmosphere. They are both great together.
He didn’t share the full story. Koreans learned how to cook fried chicken from blacks back in the war. Koreans adapted it and instead of frying once Koreans would do a double fry which is how it holds its crispy texture even when sauced. So they learned it from blacks but took it to another level. I’m black and I’m just going to say it. Koreans make the best fried chicken. 😮I said what I said 😅
Ollie did a lot of heavy lifting on this video! Always amazing with the jokes. I don’t buy the CNSR’s assessment. Felt Josh and Ollie had to squeeze a lot of jolliness from this video to make up for the lack of enthusiasm from the guest.
WHat a dud! AHHAHA! "c0nNoiSsEur"
Yeah, he just sat and ate and then criticised, like "try to impress me." Bottom line, he ate it all, got a free meal.
@@annainspain5176 exactly lmao
I’m not sure where you’re from watch the CCs videos. Like South Korea in England there’s a chicken shop culture
i think the attempted humour/compliment in the beginning made the young man a little tentative and in turn rigid......understandable if they didnt have a prior acquaintance.
Massive thanks and salute to Ollie who made this video enjoyable and fun to watch
I get the sense that the Chicken Conoisseur only does southern spicy fried chicken. There’s tons of fried chicken around the world. And KOrean is one of the more popular/trending ones right now. So very surprised that he never tried.
He didn't even comment on how the breading and crunch is different. I feel like Korean fried chicken was unjustified in this lol.
He was famous a few years ago for rating London "Chicken Shop" chicken. Those that live in London know the cultural relevance of the chicken shop, its not the same as going to a big franchise like KFC/Jollibee etc for example. Usually very cheap and unpretentious and run as a business by Asian families until stupid hours in the morning but every one does more or less the same menu but it just varies how good they make the chicken. People eat there after a boozy night out or secondary school kids get it as cheeky snack after school. Its quite difficult to describe to someone who hasn't grown up in London or big UK cities but that's the type of chicken establishments he rates.
@@miananor4304 lovely explanation
idk who he is but hes def not a chicken connoisseur. he just likes to eat his chicken imo lol
@@iCynnie his name isn't to be taken seriously its obviously satirical to me
Thankfully Ollie carried this entire episode.
which chef told him that he's the chicken expert?
I think the problem was not in the candid rating, which is appreciated, but the attitude. He came off as being determined not to be wowed, which probably was felt by Josh and Ollie and made the whole vibe a tad uncomfortable. “Connoisseur” doesn’t mean “hard to please.”
thats his style, he has been doing it for years, i like both channels, but i think they are too different to mix well.
@@HonorabilisMagister i see. Wonder whether the blend could have been more doable if it had been some other kind of chicken menu 😆 not fried.
@@HonorabilisMagister well he certainly didnt gain many followers after this collab
@@slee2695 good bc this is not his audience. Its only funny if you get it
@@tawanamufasa291 yeah really deep humor
Reading many comments appreciating the guest’s honesty . Not gonna lie, I feel like he is the type of person if you say something is good, he will say its bad. If you say something is bad, he will say its good. Lol.
you should watch few of this guy videos
then you will know this guy is totally about flavour on the meat and thin chicken skin but not that crunchy,which really the weakness of korean fried chicken
JOLLY clearly didnt do they homework before they invite this guy
@@mobiuszero2424 only means he is an expert of his own taste and not a chicken expert.
@@kpopre-viewdrop-3906 nope, he already set a bar for him how any chicken dish he gonna rate for and of course everyone has its own preferences, if he change the rating system he head just because JOLLY invite them its basically lying to his subscriber, because their subscriber know what he based his ratings on
if he was rating all of those ultra thick battered chicken is 4,7 now go imagine how disappointed his subscribers are when they were trying those chicken and found out that those chickens is not thinly battered?
idk how you people blaming it to this guy, he just staying true to himself and tried to be honest
just because you like something, doesnt mean everyone should like it, this guy already stated why he rate those chicken quite low, and its subjectively true
Eh it's entertaining that people is unapologetically themselves and I would disagree on the quick judgement.
the person that is mean to you but calls himself brutally honesy
This video had me laughing non stop from start to end. The back and forth banter was amazing. Josh and Ollie are so quick witted!
"I'm still learning Korean. Eighty percent there, round it up to ten" 🤣🤣
Ollie saved this hahaha
Ollie saved it everytime!
@@00sali00 totally agree!
To be fair, I don't think that guy is a chicken expert 😂🤷🏻♀️. I think he's an expert on what HE likes, but you have to be objective when rating a food or drink. He pretty much proved that when he said he'd rate chicken with cheese a 1 because he doesn't like cheese. He's not factoring in many things, the crunch is something that many many people find to be the most appealing thing about fried chicken. Also, the country of origin, spices, and different cultural tastes should be taken into consideration. A wine conissuour/sommelier doesn't rate a wine based purely on their own preferences, but on many different factors. I just don't think this an accurate assessment of Korean fried chicken. By the way, the guy is 29 years old. He's no child.
It's just a joke, he's just some random guy who got popular making tongue-in-cheek videos taking a basic chicken and chips too seriously
Agree
chill, it's not meant to be taken seriously, jokes exist
@@bloopbleep173 Guessing you haven't seen the so called experts video's then.. Also in no way was it meant as a joke or to be joking. The guy has issues with anything that he doesn't like but hides it as being a expert. To which he doesn't even reach that level.
he has never eaten chicken outside of London. He has never eaten anything other than UK prepared chciken. Sorry he is about as much an expert as i'm the president of the US.
@@okbutthenagain.9402 He actually has done some chicken shop video reviews on a trip to New York a few years ago
but otherwise agree
The thing about Korean Chicken is (and I've eaten some in South Korea too)
It does relied heavily on the sauce and breading. The Fried Chicken itself (the original one) is not actually that different than normal KFC (depends on what shop u eat in or what country u eat the kfc from)
Korean Chicken is very good compared to like most western fried chicken
But if u went to Asia, especially south or south east Asia, u could find fried chicken with marination that's absorbed to the bone. And it made Korean Chicken somewhat pale in comparison. So yeah if he eat a lot of soul food type of Fried Chicken, pretty sure he's very honest about his review on this.
How about a collaboration with Amelia from the Chicken Shop Date. It'll be a Korean Chicken Shop Date 😂
I'm up for this
She likes bland food. She would not enjoy Korean chicken 😂
@@glencoco3142 she could try the original flavour 🤣
@@glencoco3142 Korean chicken is notoriously dogged in America for it's bland flavoring and lack of marinate.
ollie carrying the whole vid on his back with his spontaneous jokes is what im living for. Ollie i love u man u are a mad genius.
평가를 한다면 선입견이 없는 중립적인 스탠스가 중요하다고 생각하는데
어떤 기준인지에 대한 설명도 없고 그냥 난 덜 바삭한걸 좋아해 난 덜 달아서 싫고 난 단걸 좋아해....치즈가 더해진건 1점일거다...
이건뭐 그냥 굉장히 지극히 개인적인 견해라고 보여집니다
전문가라는 말은 옳지 않아보이네요 ㅎㅎ
올리 저 능청스러움이 너무 웃김ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그나저나 전문가님이 확실히 취향이 확고하신듯 저런분이 5점준 치킨이 너무 궁금해져요 대체 어떤맛일까 기준점이 다른걸 보면 아직 못먹어본맛 같아서 너무 궁금함..
Ollie’s spontaneous jokes never disappoint us
I checked out some of Elijah’s other videos before writing and it seems like he is normally more relaxed and detailed with some of his reviews so I’m wondering what was making him seem so uncomfortable.
Culture.
It's not easy interacting with people with a diffent personality to him.
Plus they WANTED him to react a certain way. The jokes doesn't make sense if you aren't fromm a certain background
@@tawanamufasa291 he agreed to the collab so he probably knew about their humour. He could've just played along. Came off a bit awkward.
Yeah I watched his videos since he first went viral and blew up. I figured fame, and clash of personalities mixed with the fact he didn't really like the food meant he came across the way he did. Which is really bad. Shame, but well done lads trying your best!
He’s black
I think the way the were talking about him like he wasn’t there with his first few tries might have made him uncomfortable. They made it awkward before he did.
Ollie's rounds up/down system is so funny. rate 3.5 and 4.4 chicken becomes same rate LOL
"Retirement? 65 years old?" Which rounds up to *70* loll
i respect the guest's opinions but to me, overall it just felt like he was super unenthusiastic to begin with. this video was like watching a kid trying to get fed something new and different by his parents because he only ever wants to eat nuggets or something like that.
idk the vibes were just off... not the jolliest of jolly videos for sure 😅
Yeah and he loves to eat at high st chicken shops - fine tastes 😛
For a sec, i thought hes really a connoisseur of chicken. Its just a stage name for his persona for YT channel.
The thing with this guest is that his candid attitude and analysis of the chicken borders on being brash. It maybe wasn’t his intent but it was the effect regardless.
Now take this guest and compare it with Sortedfood. Both probably have had some amazing food, including some incredible chicken, and both parties probably have their own ideas and reservations of what qualifies as great food after years of eating and critiquing. The people from sorted however probably take Josh and Ollie’s efforts of arranging these collaborations and including them in their videos much more into consideration. People like Ben and Barry have eaten some amazing cuisine but never try to critique food at the expense of their guests/hosts’ feelings. That’s probably why they’ve had enjoyable experiences with other channels like Korean Englishman and the Sidemen.
This is not to say the guest was rude, or acted outright unreasonably. It is just my opinion that their honesty and comments, at times, clashed with the vibe of the video and Josh and Ollie’s efforts of making an enjoyable video centred on him no less.
wow - i'm surprised his mild critique triggered so much thought and feelings, for i thought food reviews were about opinions on things eaten rather than networking.- all i took from this is 'the chicken derives its taste from its coating and condiments rather than the chicken flesh' which in any case is still above average.
i also think the attempted humour/compliment in the beginning made the young man a little tentative and in turn rigid......quite understandable if they didnt have a acquaintance prior.
Bro wrote a pharagraph on a guy whose enjoying himself on his own way
@@jump2itxxx True, his review wasn’t absolutely scathing (a 3.4 tho’s gotta stick out to them even if they don’t show it on their faces) and if he wasn’t used to these kinds of videos before he would be uncomfortable and stiff.
I really don't think it was that bad? In the first minute I shared your opinion, but afterwards it honestly just seemed like a guy with his own character giving his honest opinion (with a bit of his own humour thrown in as well), which, honestly, should be what it's about in food reviews. Like, just because the Korean chicken that Jolly really like didn't get stellar scores from him doesn't mean that he was a bad guest... (I say that, and this is literally the first time I've heard about cnsr. I'm not from the UK)
no he is good
Thank god for Ollie on this channel, he is always hilarious and genuine, no matter the different energy, reactions of the guests or even if they are funny or not (depends on the viewer I agree), he makes the episode worth it! I'm always going in and keep on watching despite finding the content not quite to my liking some days because I know Ollie will bring a ray of sunshine in the video (no offence for the video or the guest of course, it just depends on everyone's liking)
What makes this person a chicken expert?
She's black that's why
I think Jolly should go on a chicken shop date with Amelia Dimoldenberg and go on a date with her, eating Korean chicken 😉🍗
The combination of her and Ollie could be hilarious!
I entirely second this. That'd be my dream collabs if they're possibly making this happen!
Amazing idea ✨
@Amelia Dimoldenberg
THAT WOULD BE GENIUS. HOW HAS NOBODY THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE.
I'd like to fire the person that gave this guy the title of connoisseur or expert.
I can’t finish this. You can’t call yourself a connoisseur if you’re going to rate things low based on just what you’re used to. The criteria is also skewed. You can’t judge fried chicken the way you would soft-skinned chicken. The purpose of an introduction is that you come into the experience with an open mind. This feels more like he is there to pose as a challenge and they need to impress him instead of a guest they’re sharing a new thing with.
thats kind of how he always is on his own channel too
Chicken is never juicy to him, he always calls it watery or something like that instead. Says its pumped with water and not just, juicy, good chicken lmao
It’s not that deep
Yall angry because of chicken lmao
I agree!
Expert on things he likes, NOT a chicken expert.
most of the comments are mad damn stupid, jolly just invite this guest to try Korean chicken and see if he likes it or not, that's just it, objective or not doesn't matter that much.
The kid was determined not to like stuff. Oh I don't like cheese on my chicken. Doesn't even give it a try which for that dish was extremely important because the cheese balances out the sauce. I'm not that picky. I don't like mushrooms but if I'm given something with them I will eat it. I think you must look at yourself when referring to comments that are "mad damn stupid." lol
@@YoshihitoBLM no lmao you are biased because youre simping for these guys. If you have been watching him for long youll know him
@@s-0284 Nah, dude is a clown. Sorry bruv.
@@YoshihitoBLM hows he a clown just because you arent part of his audience? Ive been integrating with the korean culture for the past few years doesnt necessarily mean its for everyone
@@s-0284 Oh no, I have an opinion that differs from yours. Best try to debate it and change it! Dude's a clown. I said what I said, no changing it. Move on.
I really want to thank Ollie for everything. He is amazing
Was a strange guest. Felt like neither side wanted to deal with other that much.
He presented himself as chicken expert and looks like a famous one in the UK, he got lots of fans around the comments section. Not really convincing and entertaining.
Yeah… One collab I could’ve done without. I found the guest very unpleasant.
@@julyb3676 right on.
Yeah this is the weirdest episode I've seen.
@@julyb3676 I agree
I don't know if anyone should claim they are a chicken expert if they haven't had the most common types of chicken.
한국의 치킨은 작은 닭을 사용하고 튀김과 양념에 집중 합니다. 닭고기 본연의 맛을 추구한다면 어떤 종류의 치킨을 갖다 드리더라도 큰 점수는 못 받을 겁니다.
전문가님은 큰 닭의 고기향과 맛을 선호하시는 걸로 보이고 아주 예리하고 솔직한 평가였습니다.
This young man has elevated his own seat as being chicken taster ... such as snob
As a black person I knew who he was bc he's more popular within the blk community.
In the urban /inner city blk community chicken shop is a huge part of our childhood. It brings back memories and is gernally a fun vibe. His channel is stemmed from that.
For white ppl it isn't. And that's okay 👍.
He's not actually a full expert 🤣🤣🤣
Ollie actually carried this series, but Me personally, I don't want Elijah to be back to the Channel, he says he's a chicken expert or whatever but doesn't like to try new flavours, sorry.
I think their vibes did not mesh well, they are good on their own. Most guests would laugh at Ollie's humour which generally eases the situation a bit but maybe he wasn't a fan of his jokes hahaha
@@KallumBest get a life bro no one gives a fuck what you think
Yeah.. Absolutely. The vibe is awkward. Felt so uncomfy watching this 😂
I'd never heard of the guy. Definitely felt their vibes were a bit too different. It all comes down to taste and he might not like something, but others will. Don't really think eating a lot of chicken makes one a connoisseur, though. 😅😂 He likes his chicken a certain way, so because this chicken is the opposite of that, he's less likely to like it 🤷🏼♀️ Korean chicken is still my favorite, hands down. They just really know what they're doing.
exactly. he just some kid who only eaten one form of chicken in the UK and thinks that he is smart enough to pass judgement. you know what they say about people like that lol...
I feel like Elijah was just there to do his thing and review some chicken. Ollie was trying a bit too hard with his humor this time to fill the awkward silence. You could tell that it might have made Elijah a bit uncomfortable. It was still an entertaining and refreshing video nevertheless :)
The moment I heard “a whole new world”, I was waiting for Ollie to make an ‘Aladdin’ Reference. He’s not predictable, I’m just intuitive 😂
Basically he's not a true "connoisseur" but just rating his opinion which is fine. I don't care if he doesn't like something, but he was a terrible guest. He seemed disrespectful of the culture, and channel. He seemed like he was only interested in what style he liked, and not interested in a different approach. He seemed closed minded, which is my issue. The cheese on chicken is an example, especially considering that chicken wasn't fried chicken. Also, is it likely that all that chicken was not good or moist? Really? Josh and Ollie would take him to a bad chicken place? Not buying it.
치킨전문가가 한국치킨을 안먹었다니 이건 전문가라하기 어려운데요? ㅋㅋㅋ
Korean chicken is overly biased in Korea like Koreans think Korean chicken is the best in the world which is an opinion tbh. And Elijah isn’t certified expert it’s all jokes. He is just giving his own opinion like it or not and I can assure you many people would agree w him including myself
really got u hurt didn’t it😂
아니요, 다양한 치킨을 먹어본 적이 있다면 (=No, as long as you've tried a variety of chicken.)
he reali spoilt the mood of this show.. chicken connoisseur my foot.
저건 전문가라고 하기보단 그냥 치킨을 좋아하는사람 ㅋㅋ 어느 음식 전문가가 개인 입맛으로 음식을 평가하나요 입맛은 누구나가 다 다른건데 말이죠
Lol i think he’s more of a picky eater than a chicken connoisseur
The reaction on the cheese proves your comment. It’s a straight 1 eating if he eats something with cheese since he doesn’t like cheese.
Same thought. When he only appreciates plain fried chicken, that's already a problem.
finally someone said it! ahahahah
@@cryptomaniac7655 He don't like plain fried chicken. He likes it more seasoned and marinated.
Right? Or just simply a big fan of typical american style fried chicken. He still cant go even a lil bit far from it
It borderline feels like he's being a little narrow-minded and rude with his delivery. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions but with him being a self-proclaimed expert, his opinion is sometimes treated as a fact when it shouldn't be. He doesn't seem to be open-minded towards the diverse takes on fried chicken. There's a distinct difference between being rude and tactless and being genuine and honest. I couldn't enjoy the video because his attitude was incredibly annoying.
He was who he is. Idk why you expect everyone to be the same???.
A LOT of ppl are honest. He was being how he is. He wasn't rude.
Jolly expected him to love and adore it bc eveyone else does. But he doesn't and that's okay
I love Korean fried chicken, but I completely understand his sentiment. It reminds me in the Philippines, there is a famous Korean fast food chain and some people love their chicken, some don't because they often said only the skin has taste (because of the sauce) and the meat inside is way too bland. It became a meme and running joke lol but they do try to improve and cater. Appreciate his honesty for that, some people just have different preference. Though I would've appreciated it more if he was nicer about it with less arrogant vibes at least for this episode LOL
What makes a Korean Fried Chicken is the chicken, the extra crispiness batter and also the sauces/coatings, it goes hand in hand. If one decides to judge solely on the chicken, then its not really a Korean Fried Chicken innit? He should call himself Plain Fried Chicken (My Personal Style) Connoisseur instead. And Yangyeom isn't even a spicy type of chicken like those Nashville Hot Chicken (which I believe he's comparing it too) , the flavour profile is sweet and spicy not "dead" for sure.
You are absolutely right!
It felt a lot like he has a very specific taste and wanted to see exactly that in Korean Fried chicken.
Plain fried chicken is right.
Just my personal opinion so don't come at me. This is by far my least favorite collab in this channel so far. 1. How can he be a "chicken expert" if he hasn't had Korean chicken? 2. If not for Ollie's jokes, this interaction would be uncomfortable. For some reason it was as if he was forced to be in this channel and he didn't enjoy it. Even the biggest celebs in the world were much more appreciative and respectful towards Josh, Ollie and Koreans for giving them the opportunity to try these food. This isn't about him not liking the chicken, I mean there were guests who weren't fan of kimchi and other spicy food. Here it’s as if he is comparing everything to his own personal taste which basically British chicken. He better off call himself the British Chicken expert then coz his reviews are biased. I respect his honesty, but if not for Ollie's jokes (seems like he was pressured to make a lot of jokes to save the video too), this video would be hella awkward. You can just see it all in Josh’s reactions 😞
Why is everyone so mad at him in the comments food is subjective to each person I’m actually happy we got somebody who had a difference of opinion for once on the Channel. I love Korean fried Chicken and I also love southern fried chicken, And the people saying “never bring him back on the channel again” are overreacting and childish
I much prefer Mr Z's energy, as it's more on the same level as Josh and Ollie. This video just feels awkward asf.
I wanna see the reverse of this of Elijah takes you to his preferred chicken shop
I used to watch and enjoy a lot of Elijah's videos growing up, didn't expect him to be this cold and hardly make an effort with josh and ollie damnnn don't take life so seriously man
After this video I went to check out his channel and all I can say is that, what a PRETENTIOUS GUEST.
I was so shocked by the low reviews. I got hooked on Korean fried chicken because of these guys. In fact, I just ordered it for dinner, and I can't wait to eat it.🐓
It's good. But if you have had better it's okay too
So she's a chicken expert?
I don’t think he’s a certified chicken connoisseur.
I call Phony.
His personality is too negative for this channel energy.
치킨전문가 맞아요??? 눅눅하고 기름지고 큰 서양식 치킨을 너무 좋아하는것같네.
개취가 확고한 분인듯~
전문가가 아닌듯 걍 동양인이 만든거라는 편견을 가지고 먹다보니 더 맛없게 느껴지는듯
why is bro angry just cuz he gave his opinion😂
Just looks unimpressed at everything. Bring on the High schoolers adventures, their reactions are pure gold and more enjoyable to watch (for me).
To be fair, Armand’s unimpressed face is a win to watch. Hahaha
For sure.
This person is cynical and arrogant
@@VonApennn how can you say something like that when you don't even met this person in reallife just sitting behind a screen tiping your shit not even thinking grow up bro
@@VonApennn ditto
I think the connoisseur has a point: it's easy for us to be impressed by Korean fried chicken since our bar is so low, but after some years, you do realise that some Korean fried chicken is better than others. Soy Garlic is really good, but yangyeom does get boring after a while
I've had fried chicken all over the world, and I do not agree with his take on Korean fried chicken.
@@superlynnie bro no one agrees with him, hes just got that one specific of taste and hes not willing to accept other tastes which hes not familier to. You can clearly see that hes stuck with his oily spicy chicken, and hes not willing to really open up and accept new flavours, so me personally think it could potentially be their worst collab. Maybe it was cuz mr z set the bar way toooo high
@@oscarxue8642 ya, and at least with Mr Z, you know it will be funny.
Well I know that Rev Chris wouldn't agree with you....
@@oscarxue8642 and he didn’t even know how to taste the different spices in Yangnyeom. It’s sweet and spicy. He is expecting something “spicy” only and that’s why he says he had something like a better spicy chicken? He doesn’t understand Asian spices, sauces etc. He is straight up fried chicken only. I agree with you. He seems to be stuck with that box taste and based the ratings if it enters the box or not. No other rules or new players of taste allowed in it or else out of the game.
is it me... or hes already set his mind before the video started. im getting tht vibe. kinda aggree with ollies comment on... like a somelier who hasnt taste wine
and strawberry mirinda? really?
Honestly speaking, this is the first Jolly episode i didn‘t really enjoy watching. Josh seemed kinda uncomfortable and Ollie really had to save the video with his jokes (that were amazing as always.
It‘s not that i dislike the honesty and want to see fabricated reviews that just enjoy everything, however i felt that this man was not a Connaisseur but rather someone trying hard to dislike Korean chicken and selling personal preferences as an objective review.
Especially on CZcams i feel like the promise of honesty is often confused with being overly critical and searching for (subjective) reasons to back up that critique.
"That's like saying someone has too much charisma" ... says Ollie as he cranks the charisma dial to max on this video
I'm guessing everybody must know that the CNSR was **born on May 28, 1993** and is 30 as of November 2023.
I’ll probably have a hard time accepting his honest reviews😭😂 the chicken lookeddd soooo gooddd especially the last one😂 love Ollie’s sense of humour 😭😭😭😭
The chicken skin is good. But when you remove that. Is there any flavour. That's what the guy reviews on his channel
He? Not she?
@tawanamufasa291 that's what fried chicken is. The coating. No chicken is flavoured. Literally the chicken shop is basic. The lad even says he has a chicken burger. It was obvious he was lying about stuff to keep his channel relevant. He saw them as a threat
you marinate the chicken and then it has flavour inside it since it soaks in and combines with the meat. thats why marinates exist and you dont apply any sauce after cooking since the meat has all the flavour. his whole point was this was crunchy chicken with nice sauce on top but chicken itself was bland@@superspengz
@@Purpelxd the kid who eats plain chicken and a chicken burger is calling it bland??? Dude you know that's a lie. If he would have said too spicy then yeah. But bland
먹어보기도 전에 치즈와 치킨의 조합이라고 1점 줄 수 있다고 말하는걸 보니,
진짜 전문가가 아니군요.
Everything is better with cheese on top
진짜 전문가와 어떤 머슴과 바뀌었나요?
소스로 맛을 감추는것이 아닌 닭 본연의 맛에 집중하시는거 같네요.
@@user-cr1xc3nq8s 그럼 치킨전문가가 아닌게 아닌가ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 피자 전문가 라면서 마치 피자의 구성 요소중 하나인 빵에대해서만 잘안다고 말하는 사람중 한명처럼 보인다 그냥 흔히말하는 방구석 죶문가 아닌가
what an awkward video. i couldnt even finish it but got a good way through it thanks to ollies humor. elijah was DETERMINED not to like anything he tried and was incredibly biased in his "ranking". i felt bad for josh and ollie. ollie did a good job trying to ease the tension with jokes which was much appreciated! love you two! no need to bring this guy back on your channel. from the comments, i dont think anyone wants to see him back. haha
Elijah is a dude?
@@Remaagen I think so.
He ranked the first one close to 5. I'm not a big Korean fried chicken fan either. Everyone's taste is different
His attitude stunk aswell
i honestly always thought this was a woman
I feel like he walked in with the opinion he was going to hate it.
Yea it’s like he felt threatened & insecure that other people had the audacity to like chicken who also sometimes review it on their *two* successful channels! He was stubborn & not entertaining. He wasn’t adaptable enough to the situation & slightly different style of channel. Kudos to Josh & Ollie for trying so hard with him.
@@flala2261 Agreed! Josh and Ollie did a great job. It’s not easy to keep it going when someone is telling you something you like is shit.
this whole channel always has people who ADORE IT. and he doesn't. They were quite literally expect him to love it and he didn't. And that's fine.
Korean fried chicken is really really good. But there's other things I love more. As Africans we are used to having deep flavours everywhere. And imo kroean fried chicken hasn't got a lot of it. I have had it 4 diffrent ways in London. Its really tasty and nice. But it's literally extra crispy fried chicken with a sweet sauce.
And that was the guys point. If you watch his channel that's how is channel is run..
As a black person I knew who he was bc he's more popular within the blk community.
In the urban /inner city blk community chicken shop is a huge part of our childhood. It brings back memories and is gernally a fun vibe. His channel is stemmed from that.
For white ppl it isn't. And that's okay 👍.
He's not actually a full expert 🤣🤣🤣
@@flala2261 ironically some blk ppl get fired / disregarded for the same reason.
We don't have the same humour or back ground. They didn't get his humour and they didn't get his. Snd that's okay.
But it's hard to integrate and understand the jokes when you don't understand thw backgorund. I grew up in a white area and ther r certain jokes / mannerism I wouldn't make to a white perons and vice versa.
I have been lucky enough to experience both so I know the difference. The problem is if you take either race out of their group and swap them it would be really awkward bc we dont have the same culture. And that's fine but this is where its gets tricky. Bc for work we must try to blend in but it's hard. He quite literally was funny n entertaining if you were blk.
Bc blk ppl r very honest and always do the most esp when it comes to trying food.
I think this shows that the thing that makes korean chicken special (the crunch and texture) is actually really subjective. I think a lot of the people on jolly don't particularly like fried chicken, whereas this guy loves the more western style of fattier, softer fried chicken. It doesn't fix anything for him like it does for the other guests, because for him it didn't need to be fixed.
Perfect analysis. I didn’t brought it down like that. Your last sentence sums it up! That’s why I’m on the comments to help me understand and be convinced on what he is saying. aside from one saying the kid is a picky eater, you saying his idea of chicken cannot be fixed are the top perspective on this. Thank you!! I hope he learns how to be a real connoisseur to live up to his name and not just by a name in CZcams and everyone believes him. I was convinced he is not an expert when he said he doesn’t like cheese and would rate it 1. That’s so subjective.
This is one of the best explanations I've seen for this. In his experience the chicken he usually eats cannot really be improved being great as it is. While others see the crunch and less oil as a plus, that for him didn't need change. This makes so much sense. I couldn't wrap my head around the unnecessary tension around this episode. But this makes so much sense, thank you!
And tbh I kind of agree with him. I haven't tried Korean fried chicken, but I feel like I wouldnt really enjoy it either, because I don't like sweet sauces on meat and I also don't like my hands being sticky from eating food covered in sauce. And I never really understood the guests complaining about fried chicken being too greasy... it's full of fatty skin and deep fried, what did you expect? This is a great comment.
Ollie makes the Best references " you're like Jasmine at the start of Aladdin" "like a sommelier who hasn't tried Red Wine" 🤣🤣🤣
But ultimately exaggerations
This was low-key awkward to watch, and not because he didn’t like much of it. I mean, people have their preferences when it comes to food so that’s okay, but the overall vibe just made it awkward 😬 If not for Ollie and his jokes here and there, this would’ve been a disaster! 🫣
I love how Ollie saved this interview. Josh definitely gave up halfway. He does give fair points but noticed that he only prefers chicken without anything. If the chicken itself is the basis of good fried chicken would that limit his tasting adventure? Seems quite dissapointing even for a chicken connoiseur like him.
He has a point, though - sauce IS often used to hide the quality of whatever the sauce is put on. That doesn't mean that sauce is bad (I love sauce), but it'd probably be better to have an amazing "underlying dish" with al little sauce than a meh "underlying dish" slathered in sauce
@@samplebriefmint4204 thats an extremely western pov
@@wearmeout1 Therefore; extremely correct.
But he rates UK chicken shops that are known for being shit. And if he thinks that's the standard then he knows nothing. It's like comparing all burgers to a burger King burger.......
by this comment, I say you don't watch his video's.
I like the he's rating the chicken itself and not just the sauce and coating that we all know is amazing.
...and he has only tasted chicken from the UK ROFL... which doesnt even say anything about knowing chicken. i wouldnt take him seriously one bit.
@@acelsg well... afaik he only review fried chicken too, not other chicken dish, but that means he fairly judging it on the fried chicken alone, not the sauce or anything
@@acelsg So... You have to taste every chicken dish around the world to review fried chicken? He does fried chicken, he's good at it and doesn't have unlimited funds. I don't really understand why you're saying that shit.
@@acelsg I think the beautiful thing is that he sort of acknowledged it in the beginning of the video when he said he rated 5 stars for his favourite at the time but it eventually ended up not the best fried chicken that he'd tasted. As he gets the chance to travel more and taste more fried chicken I'm sure his evaluation will change as well. Can't wait until he visit the US South for some good'ole soul fried chicken!
Same
Frequenting chicken takeaways with low hygiene ratings does not make u a chicken expert 😅
I mean what type of expert is he if he doesn't even know about korean chicken
i get where he's coming from. "you want me to eat chicken but this feels like im eating batter and sauce and the chicken is just the spoon" but the whole thing felt very closeminded that really made the video flat. it doesnt make me want to check his videos at all. bring back mr z
He’s far from a connoisseur. He only likes plain chicken and doesn’t have an exquisite palate. What a waste of an episode! Lol. But i still had fun watching Ollie!! 😂
I appreciate the guest’s honesty and i understand where the guest is coming from. But I just think the vibe is a bit off, they didn’t mesh that well so thank you Ollie for being so funny. You saved us from boredom.
I think their audience in general is quite different (which there is nothing wrong with that!) But definitely I personally feel like I couldn't comfortably (?) watch this video ?? Kinda feels a little more tense than I personally like (maybe bc I watch Korean Englishmen/jolly while I eat alone for breakfast and usually want something easy going)
Overall this was a different experience! But now I'm definitely curious as to what fried chickens he has given high ratings for. I have a friend who thinks about the same as him about KFC, but when I tried the fried chicken he raved about I was like ???
Anyways long ramble lol
I think it's because the guest took too long to react to the food? You could kind of tell Josh and Ollie were uncomfortable with how long he was taking- and I think them whispering to each other was pissing off the guest as well. Their personalities just didn't gel well
@@zoe4481 yes!! They r just diffrent people. Most peopel on this channel are like THIS IS THE MOST BEST CHICEKN I HAVE EVER TASTED. And for him it's just alright.
And that's his opinion and that's fine
He isn’t a connoisseur, he’s just a regular dude with preferences
It's a her
Haha. True. Korean fried chicken is the best!!
And idk if it’s a male or female either. 😅 Jolly calls it him. Soo yeah.
치킨전문가분이 솔직히 너무 개취향적인 입맛을 가지고 있으셔서
영상 상황이 보는 사람입장으로 뭔가 이상해졌어요ㅜㅜㅜ
그래도 우리 올리씨가 재치있는 농담으로 상황을 잘이끌어갔네요..
게스트분이 확실한 아메리칸치킨을 선호 하시는것 같아요…… 처음에 단것을 매우좋아한다는 말에…
이번 게스트섭외는 조금 아쉬웠던걸로~~ㅎㅎㅎ
우리영국남자 이번편 표정들이 너무 위로해주고싶은 표정ㅠㅠㅠ 항상 다양한 컨텐츠 감사해요💕
Thank you Ollie for saving the video..how can he calls himself a fried chicken expert if he's not even willing to explore new flavours??🧐🧐
The chicken it self has no flavour. Its the batter and the sauce. Which give it flavour thats what his point was.
Not everyone likes the same things.
He explored new flavours and he didn't like it. What's the problem
tawana mufasa Tbh how do you call yourself a chicken expert when you haven’t even tried the new flavors yet tf
by this comment, I say you don't watch his video's.
보통 치킨 맛을 치킨이라는 요리 자체의 맛을 느끼는데
이 분은 닭 본연의 맛을 즐기면서 거기에 더해 요리된 맛을 느끼려고 하시는 게 되게 뚜렷하시네요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
이런 스타일로 치킨 즐기시는 분한탠 확실히 취향에 안 맞을 것 같긴 해요
idk what this comment says but i just know hes flaming the black kid
@@kenjimaycrythe black kid has a name lil bro and just press translate….
im guessing the joke flew over ur head lil sis@@w1nterr39
The sauce is everything when it comes to Korean fried chicken. Without sauce, it is crunchy but bland. I love it, but I can certainly appreciate this kid’s preference for fried chicken that doesn’t depend on the sauce for flavor. A brined buttermilk fried chicken or Nashville hot chicken is flavorful to the bone.
Never heard of the Chicken Connoisseur and I don't see a reason to followup based on this appearance.
Can you really take Elijah's opinion seriously? I mean this guy thought Popeye's wings were really spicy and gave them a 4.55.
I absolutely love ollie everytime he dissed a british musician / band, it's just an on-point perfect roast