Jim Cornette Reviews A&E's WWE Rivals: Triple H vs. Batista
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- čas přidán 16. 03. 2023
- From Episode 285 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Dave always looked sharp in those tailored suits. That’s how a champion should look.
I disagree. He looked like a kid dressing from his parents closet...a closet from the 90s
@@erikreddington461 as opposed to?
Brain dead lol
Cody dresses in suits all the time. He is definitely champion material.
Dressed to the nines Cole!
I haven't even listened to this yet, but I wanted to give Travis Heckel massive props for giving us a funnybook-accurate Drax.
That was exactly my first thought! I grew up on that Drax, took me awhile to get used to the MCU version.
Hear, hear!
I love drax the destroyer and this is the right one
@@2barquack I'd pay money to see Batista in this Drax look.
I'm laughing over Corn Lord 😆 Travis is amazing
The first Batista vs Triple H trilogy is amazing: Batista ended the reign of terror and nobody could stop him, Triple H tried and he got basically destroyed every match, to the point HHH decided to use his undefeated gimmick Hell in a Cell as a last resort and he disappeared until his amazing feud with Ric Flair.
Batista also had that kickass theme that pumped everyone when he came to clean house.
He didn't get destroyed at Backlash. He got screwed at Backlash. And the next night in the Gold Rush tournament.
Triple H knew how to get Batista over because he was able to communicate and I think to a degree see a little of himself in Batista. Why I like Batista is that he is who he is. He's raw power throw back big guy who can surprise you ahletically and personality wise he's very underrated
Agree with every point you made apart from HHH's feud with Flair being amazing
The first guy to beat reign of terror triple H was actually jim Ross, he’s the real champ
@@heroinabuser5980 No. Jim Ross wasn't the first.
RVD beat him Sept 02 on Raw. Kane beat him late October 02 on Raw. HBK beat him at Survivor Series 2002. Steiner beat him at the Royal Rumble 2003. Booker beat him a few times in Jan 02, November 02, and March 2003 on Raw.
Goldberg beat him Unforgiven 2003, on Raw, and Survivor Series 2003.
Benoit beat him at WM20, tag matches in April,
Backlash 2004, Vengeance 2004, 1st ever Ironman match title match on Raw, Benoit's Survivor Series team beat HHH'S in 2004, the Gold Rush tournament in May 2005.
Eugene beat him in August 2004.
Orton beat him Survivor Series 2004, multiple times in Jan-Mar 2005 on Raw.
Edge beat him in a tag match on Raw following Taboo Tuesday 2004 and in one during the summer when Edge was still a babyface.
Batista is the rare breed where he’s successful in both wrestling and Hollywood. Multiple time world champion and being part of big box office movies like Infinity War and Dune
He was great in Bladerunner 2049 too.
He got lucky. His acting isn't good.
@xavierrhcp13 I got bored with that movie but I wish Batista had more screen time. I did like the original Bladerunner tho.
Batista was one of my absolute favorites growing up. I might actually check this out.
Batista in the classic Drax outfit
I LOVE IT !!!
Corny is one of the few who can see that
Batista as the face of Smackdown (along with Taker) is probably my favorite time as a fan. Batista is no doubt a legend to me
The Summer of Khali 😄
Love how Brian pointed out where the thumbs up came from when Randy originally won the belt from Benoit
I think Batista had really found his groove as a heel just before leaving WWE. He Was cutting some great promos.
I knew I wasn't the only one that thought that was Dave's best work. I loved those promos during the Cena-Batista feud in late 2008-early 2009.
@@frank-bmtz It was good. I was sad to see him go. I'd just finally started to like him.
Batista's rivalry with The Undertaker is up there with this one. It's what made me a fan of Batista and his heel run.
one of this best matches was with the Undertaker.
That rivalry was sick af. Every match was great and progressively got more violent and intense. Even when it wasn't in the middle of the initial feud like the chairs match with Austin refereeing and the interaction at the end of the Elimination Chamber Taker and Bats brought it 100% Epic stuff.
@@iBmEVanquisher True, but once he became heel i thought he was better on the mic
@@iBmEVanquisher No, I think he was very underrated as a promo. I think towards the end of his first run with the WWE he got better, especially doing his feud with John Cena. He became more comfortable as a promo
@@carlosescareno6688 100% agree once he turned heel on Rey Mysterio at the bragging rights pay-per-view that's where his promo started to become much much better
The thumbs down promo segment on Raw is one of the most memorable ever
That's what made him right there
Facts. I saw this as a kid and I went bonkers, it was teased for so long
The fact that Jim helped train Batista and Batista goes on to gets over in Hollywood as Drax I'm sure without knowing that Jim liked comics.
The build to this was excellent. I've heard that Vince at one point wanted to do Triple H vs Batista on TV and Triple H had to talk him out of it. The HIAC match is absolutely brutal and took Batista to the next level much like Mick Foley did with Triple H 5 years before
HHH has to talk Vince out of a lot of dumb shit because he's always getting in the way of HHh creating greatness.
*HHH told the refs/Vince to "Fuck off" at Summerslam 98. He wanted to cut Rock and HHH's ladder match off at 15Min.*
*Vince told him no thumbtacks at. the Rumble. HHH pedigreed Foley on them anyway.*
*Vince wanted Orton to face HHH at WM21. HHH said it should be Batista because he's the hot hand instead.*
I remember triple h saying he was undefeated in hell in the cell and it made him a star. Crazy how it all came around
when hell in a cell matches actually meant something
@@gothard5 Yep!
@@christian6455 Angle won the 6 way HIAC in December of 2001, pinning The Rock off of HHH's Pedigree. So Hunter wasn't pinned, but he lost the match.
Oh man you killed it Travis!! Gave him the original Drax design 👍🏻🤌🏻
And Cornette as Han Solo!!
@@planexshifter 😂😂😂
@@planexshifter that’s star lord lol
@@planexshifter Booo . . . .
@@most_pragmatic Korath: Who?
What’s kinda funny is that Dave’s original comments dragging OVW for not preparing him to be ready to wrestle on the big stage was in an interview a couple days before he won the world title at wrestlemania the first time. And in that interview while he makes the comment about OVW he actually mostly agrees with the things that Corny says about him during his time in OVW. He comments that he didn’t like his original character in the WWE because it took away his body which was his biggest asset. But then he comments in hindsight it was a good thing because he couldn’t depend on his body so he was forced to learn to work better in the ring.
He also comments about how he was nervous when he began to speak more on the show because he had always been quiet and shy. And he says that being stuck with Flair and Triple H was great because WWE had to stick him with the best to learn from or there was no hope for him. So as peeved as guys like Corny have been by his OVW comments (he does state that it prepared him to responsible and other things), even back then he was at least self-aware of what he was and where he was at in things and that he needed work to succeed.
I can get why his comments on OVW were annoying because it is shitty to say you learned more in two days from Finley than two years in OVW. But I don’t think he was truly arrogant when you see his follow up comments in the interview of knowing how much help he needed to be able to succeed. Also notable that when he was asked about acting back then he said there was no chance he could be a leading man and that his best chance would be in supporting roles. So for better or worse I do think he at least had self awareness at one point or another. I also think his approach to acting is kinda cool. He’s intentionally tried to stretch himself and do challenging roles that enhance his skills over sticking to a niche blockbuster role for everything like the Rock does. So the dude isn’t perfect but he seems overall solid in varying ways. I can appreciate that he at least acknowledges how far he needed to grow and the help he needed to get there over acting like he did it all on his own. Also thought it was cool that he wanted his final match to be with HHH who he feels he owes a lot to and that he demanded to lose to him. I think he has more good than bad to him as it applies to wrestling.
Batista is great and he always looked like a star
The Deacon didn't look like a star.
@@Speedyreedy1218 Anyone can get a bad gimmick just ask Barry Windham Or Cody Rhodes.
@@Speedyreedy1218 deacon did look like a star they didn’t give that gimmick enough time
@@pleaseshutup7053 🙈🙈🙈
Star-Lord Cornette is a W
Taker and batistas feud was good
But what I want to bring out was at the time it was such a big deal
When Cena and Batista had their first ever match at Summerslam 2008. Wow that crowd was so into it. It felt like such a big deal. You couldn't believe they were finally going at it. And I was actually shocked (rare at the time) Batista went over. I hope we get a batista vs cena biography because Dave really returned the favor on his way out putting cena over
That was the match where Cena broke his neck from a batista bomb right?
As someone who started watching in 2009, I will never forget Batista's last match and promo. "DUCT TAPE???!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS??!! DUCT TAPE??!!! I QUIT!!!" XD
That was a big deal cuz it was the two top guys of the Ruthless Aggression Era (one could argue that at one point in 2005-06 Batista was actually the bigger start before the injuries) and they had up to that point done a good job of keeping them separate. One was always on Raw the other on Smackdown. I believe the only real encounter they had before that was being the last 2 guys in the 2005 Royal Rumble and then a tag match in 2007. So yea it always feels special when it's two stars going at it for the first time.
I still regret that we never got a Batista vs Brock match. I know they wrestled in OVW but that doesn't count. I thought we might have had a chance to see it in 2014 when Batista came back, I remember they even teased it on an episode of Raw but it never happened.
Man, 1997 - 2005 was my era. It fucking rocked. So many good feuds I'd forgotten about. Triple H v Randy Orton was great aswell
The greatest period of wrestling ever!
That was the glory period.
Wish I could have watched back then. I started in 2006. I was 9 years old lol
@@scottytechNmore1 Go back. It's much more enjoyable.
During the pandemic's height, I binge watched 1994-2008 WWF. By far had the most fun up til 2005 (primarily only watched Raw During the brand split because Smackdown bored me 2nd half of 02 through 06).
Raw started to take a dip 2nd half of 2005-2007 for me and I almost gave up. Greg Helms' 2006-07 year run as cruiserweight champ on Smackdown and MNM's run were the only things I consistently liked overall.
Things picked back up on Raw for me early 08 and for Smackdown 2nd half of 08.
2009 was the ultimate downhill of no return kicking off the era for the next several years of guest hosts, and a round table of human and computer GMs.
So WWE has generally sucked almost 20 years to me. Around 2010 I switched to ROH and it renewed my fandom for the most part, particularly 2012-2016. Then they took a dip 2017-2019. They did a reset and came back to glory 2020-2021, but got bought out of business by AEW.
So I've gone back to the classics. I get more fun out of rewatching old stuff and interacting with CZcams commenters for a refreshed experience.
@@Speedyreedy1218 thanks for the input and your opinions!
Ummm Jim, I thought Mark Jindrak was known for being huge?
Kane appeared 3 times in OVW I believe. Brothers of Destruction vs Batista and DDP
What!? 😮
I think Kane was his first match on PPV too.
18:23 I like how Brian recalled this moment... Its so important to the lore of the "Rise of Batista".
In fact, I'd go as far as to say Orton's "Fall from Grace" in 2004 (and subsequent chase for the title into 2005) was monumental to establishing Batista.
Don't forget, he's the one that pointed out how HHH didnt have Batista's back in the Elimination Chamber.
“Batista is coming for the world title against the Game at WrestleMania” Underrated Jim Ross quote
really? "BLANK is coming for the world title against the BLANK at WrestleMania” literally nothing special?..idk
I would say the beast has been unleashed is one of my favorites
I disagree
I guess it’s the way he says it.
Generic quote.
Oh wow... Travis drew Bautista the way Drax was depicted in the 1990's Infinity Gauntlet saga instead of his 2000s look. #DeepCut
It’s the Dax I grew up with
I could care less about anything marvel now. They can go away forever
@@travisheckel3788 😅
@@travisheckel3788 the Immortal Hulk series was pretty damn good
@@travisheckel3788 you are my hero
19:37 No, lmao. Austin in the leadup to WM 17 lost two straight falls to Triple H at No Way Out, which people don't remember happening.
Remember they don't watch the WWE like this back then because they don't like that era of wrestling. So they'll just make s*** up or forget some details to fit the narrative that they're trying to make.
I recall really hating that Austin jobbed to Hunter at that point. Still kind of do
With the help of Wrestling Bios, A&E will need to do a WWE Rivals: Bret "the Hitman" Hart vs. Road Dogg Jesse James.
Ladies and Gentleman, Boys and Girls, Children of All Ages.....Shaddup
#TeamRoadie 🐕
Wrestling Bios!😂😂
I’m sorry but saying that Mark Jindrak had “no real physique” when he was dubbed the “Reflection of Perfection” and had one of the greatest overall Pro Wrestling aesthetics of all time (imo) is crazy on Jim’s part
18:43 The fans already knew about it Brian.😄
Even for people that didn’t know, I think most people would understand what thumbs up to thumbs down means without it being established beforehand lol.
Man love these artworks hahhaa Dave as classic Drax and Jimmy as Starlord hahaha keep em comin Travis!
I remember the first time I saw Batista on TV. He was doing pull-ups and had a short conversation with Ric Flair. He looked like a badass I was instantly a fan.
I really want a Randy Orton documentary. Can you imagine what good shit would be in that?
Took me a while to come around to Batista when he debuted, but he slowly won me over. I just wish we had more time with him when he was a heel in 2010. Also, I enjoyed his small run in 2019 when he returned after his Hollywood success. Shame about his last match.
It was a pretty good rivalry. Each match got better. And it came full circle in 2019.
It wasn't really a rivalry. HHH put him over in 3X PPVs.
HHH/Rock is a rivalry.
Jindrak had great size, look, physique and loads of potential. He was kind of shy on the mic and like Randy Orton was a bit of a troublemaker backstage and didn’t take it seriously.
The gym in TITAN TOWERS is absolutely stunning with the neon on the walls would be a bucketlist to get to work out at that facility.
You've been?
We all know why you weren’t on the Kane bio and you won’t review it…
Triple H wasn't bleeding in all three matches he only bleed at Wreslemania 21 and Vengeance not Backlash
Correct.
It's Jim Cornette!!! He will paint a picture to feed his narrative.
I can never get over Jim talking about big ass Dave being so cold 💀
I never got into Batista personally. One of the times I quit watching WWE was right after he beat Tajiri lol. But in retrospect it was the right move.
Lol,ok!!
I can’t believe what a great acting career Batista has had. Hats off to him. He’s terrible in everything and keeps getting more and more roles. Living the dream
You know what, if a&e wants to do massive ratings, they should make a punk vs cena episode or even a hunter vs punk episode. Everyone makes big money, even punk!
Wwe won't play ball w that. Shame
@@Darkstar-rg8ze I know, it would be fun.
@@Darkstar-rg8ze Definitely not with C.M. Punk or Bryan Danielson
Who wants to see that?
@@Speedyreedy1218 every wrestling fan clown cm punk is the biggest star in the business everyone loves or hates him
Thank you Travis for the proper artwork.
I had stopped watching by then, so wasn’t even aware that this was a feud. I am happy seeing Batista doing well these days tho!
13:40 No Brian. Jindrak was not "originally cast for Evolution." It was always Orton and Batista. When Batista tore his Triceps in February 03 and Orton broke his foot, the group was on pause. Orton healed in May. Vince wanted HHH to replace Batista with Jindrak. HHH didn't want to so filmed the vignette with Flair and Orton in such a way where Jindrak was waaaaay to the side of them..😂😂😂
He never waivered on his guys or vision. He told Vince Orton and Batista were his guys and he'd wait for them. And he did.
I did like the times Dave and Rey were either feuding or being the best of friends. I'll never forget YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MY FRIEND ever.
What's crazy is that Bautista is older than HHH yet at the time you would never think that.
Wow, the original Drax The Destroyer look.
I'm disturbed that I know that.
21:44 I mean he also left Ric Flair bloodied and beaten backstage to get Triple H to agree to a match, but yeah lol
Angie Bautista is alive and well, for the record lol. She survived cancer.
Jindrak was built!
Damn. Jim misses some good matches when he took his break from wrestling. I would if we send Jim recommendations, I would like what he thought on Lesnar vs Daniel Bryan or Lesnar vs AJ.
Nah those matches lame no story to them
@Please Shut Up Agree to disagree. I personally like those matches. There are other people that can recommend matches
@@maclicious2008 sounds like AEW is the wrestling company for you. No story just moves
@Please Shut Up wwe been doing Champion vs. Champion since 2017, and unlike AeW, these guys can work. If you start to assume, you probably like Hogan-Dixie Era of TNA, alot of story over there.
@@maclicious2008 like I said and you confirmed no story
HHH v Drax? This was worthy of a rivals episode? Fookin' ell.
Batista had, to me, one of the most unique, successful careers in the history of the sport. No he was not around forty years or anything like that, but a guy starts in his thirties and does what he's done. Obviously like many, wrestlers, he had a lot of help. Especially from HHH. I was never a fan of Mr. Levesque, but he was paramount to Batista in his career. I really think Dave gets it. To see him have this new career in tinseltown as a main/character actor is quite cool 👍👍
I just watched Hotel Artemis over the weekend. Batista was good in that movie, too. If you haven't seen that movie, check it out.
I enjoyed that movie also 😊
Their hell in a cell match was probably Batistas best match ever I thought. With his match with taker at mania being a close second
Hard for someone to have a bad match when HHH and Undertaker are your opponents.
They probably didn't show Triple H giving Randy Orton the thumbs down because that was the night Orton beat Chris Benoit, and they didn't want to risk either showing Benoit or his name plate on the belt.
It's amazing how many superstars OVW produced compared to how few superstars NXT and the PC have produced.
Yeah that happens when vince goes out of his way to bury everyone in nxt
How did Jindrak have no real physique? There's no hope for anyone if that's the case lol
Love Batista, enjoyed the turn, but I actually dug Orton’s face-turn more than I did Batista’s. Ultimately, it went nowhere, but the young future Ace being the first to leave or get kicked out of the group was a great idea. I was…13-14, and I remember being totally in Orton’s corner. I was wrong in the long run - Orton works better as a top heel - but shit, was that fun.
I'm in the same boat as you exactly. I was early teens during that period too and I was really into Randy's baby face turn, however as you said it never really stuck, which was disappointing but it's largely because Orton was such a natural heel. Dave was a great baby face and his turn was kinda everything we wanted Randy's to be
Mark Jindrak was *never* in Evolution and he had a physique in 2003; that's why he had a looking-in-a-mirror gimmick on Velocity which no one watched, ever.
Jim can crack all the jokes he want about Batista career but than man theme song along with the entrance alone put him in the HOF .. he had us kids in a choke hold after that win at mania against triple h
Not me. He had me crying. I was mad he beat HHH.
I've always been a Batista fan. His world title reign was my junior year of high school. His power stuff looked so cool and believable, one of the best 300+ pound super heavyweights out there.
This is why I want Jim to do watch alongs for the shit he missed. He’d LOVE the Punk vs Cena match.
He’d love the second Cena/Punk match on Raw even more!
Lmao he sure would, he blows both of them on the regular. Even though, one is an overrated cancer to the business and the other couldn't wrestle his way out of a wet paper bag.
I really loved Sean O'Haire what a sad tragedy. It was heartbreaking to me when I found out he had passed away especially the way he did. He had so much potential in my opinion. I thought he had the entire package as a wrestler. Such talent wasted.
They paired him with Piper because he couldn't talk in front of the live crowds.
@@quentinkaasa47 yeah I know I remember Piper wasn’t there long that time
Batista on smackdown in the 2000s was my favorite era cuz I remember being a kid watching then I think I had a great childhood
Tells him to call it on the fly like flair. Checks notes like DDP…
next season should be old school fueds only. hulk vs macho. ric vs steamboat stuff like that
"Old School" depends on when you started watching. To one generation HHH/Batista is old school. To another generation Macho/Hogan. To another it's Free birds/Von Erichs.
Please review the China and Kane documentary!
Jindrak was only about to get in when Dave got hurt at first but triple h said no he will wait for dave to come back off injury
HHH was never letting him in. That's what Vince wanted.
@@Speedyreedy1218 That's what I meant, vince was trying to push it but tripleh kept saying no
@@jdillinger2627 Gotcha
Sean O’Haire was great in WCW and his Devil’s Advocate gimmick was interesting in WWE until they ruined it by dropping that and sticking him with Piper.
19:00
"Triple H was a cool heel that never sold anyone's promos." -
Brian
Me: Watch HHH'S facials when Nash returns after HHH and Flair beat up HBK in 2003 and Austin announces the HIAC Bad Blood match.
Watch HHH sell Goldberg jobbing out Evolution and breaking HHH's hammer on his thigh.
Watch HHH blade for Booker before WM19 and sound defeated Talking to Flair with the towel on his neck.
Watch his facials when the triple threat match is announced for WM20.
I could go on...
The devil's advocate role was sean o hare not mark jindrak
OG Drax! Travis is a scholar and a gentleman!
Hell yeah jim cornette
I’ve always thought HHH’s “reign of terror” was vastly over-hated. He really helped make Orton and Batista. Raw’s main event was Rizzler thin. Only egregious victim was Booker T
RVD, Scott Steiner, Goldberg…
Steiner was borderline immobile. Goldberg was signed for a year. RVD is arguable, yeah. Wasn’t a main-event guy till 2006 though
Reign of Terror was badass, I do not care what people say. Batista was the best to end it and Edge was basically born as a heel during the last years of that period. My favorite year was 2004.
If y'all thought H's "reign of terror" was bad, wait till you hear about Double J's "reign of terror" in TNA.
I like JJ as a wrestler but 2002-2006 TNA was brutal as he kicked out of everything and made everyone look like a chump. That was the true reign from Hell. Iirc he no-sold the gore lol
Triple H acting like he found a diamond in the rough
He did.
@@Speedyreedy1218 no Batista was always a top prospect clown
@@pleaseshutup7053 He wasn't.
But I won't insult you.
Wow! Look at Batista now compared to when he was before Triple H. The dude is literally an a-lister at Hollywood who would have thought that!!! So Yes he did find a diamond and A gold bar.
Batista was a mid carder before Evolution. Batista and Orton were stuck doing shitty gimmicks before HHH added them to Evolution. He absolutely propelled their careers.
Jim’s gotta go back and watch for that 2003-2008 era
He won't lol
He missed pivotal moments like Eddie Guerrero winning the WWE Championship
The ruthless aggression era objectively was the best period of wrestling if you're talking the all around big picture. The talent levels were insane, both among veterans and rookies, the roster was incredibly deep. The mid card was far superior to the attitude era, which people often forget had a terrible gimmicky mid and lower card until about 2000. They also weren't hot-shotting anymore now that WCW was dead
Jim spitting too much venom on Batista, it’s almost as if he feels insulted that Batista was a success. It’s okay Jim he basically used Leviathan as inspiration for his role as Drax. 5 year career or not he made it.
I usually agree with Cornette like 99% of the time, but I'm going to defend Batista here because of when he was being quiet or "meek", as Jim said, in OVW. He was green to the business and so from my perspective he was just being respectful and doing the right thing by being quiet and listening to what he was told to do. Of course there's probably some context we're missing because we weren't there, but it only sounds like Dave was trying to break in the right way. Now if he said he wasn't speaking up when in character, that's something totally different.
(not deep comic fan) at first i thought that was martian manhunter but then saw corny was starlord. As a teen watching batistas era in wrestling lots of kids in my middle school wanted to be buff like him
Classic Drax costume...how I know I'm in the right place with the right folks! 👊
Chris beniot did that to triple h before
Batista vs Triple H was a great feud, not much of a rivalry though.
W
5 years only. That is literally just an election cycle, if you count the campaign year!
Sprite Lord
Seems like they wont review the Chyna one despite them saying they will :(.
I was one of those fans tired of Triple H beating everyone. I did enjoy the final match between Batista and Triple H. I think it was probably match of the year. What else happened on that show? I don't remember.
He didn't beat everyone though.
Seeing Triple H finally get his ass kicked was very satisfying when I was a kid
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy Finally?
*People HHH lost to* :
Warrior, The Stalker, Mero, Sid, Rock, Austin, Chyna, Kurt, Undertaker, Jericho, Brooklyn Brawler, HBK, Bret, Shelton Benjamin, Eugene, Benoit, Orton, Flair, Batista, Vince, Jim Ross, Test, Albert, Dvon Dudley, Rikishi, Batista, Big Show, Umaga, Shamrock, Goldust, Foley, Ahmed Johnson, Rollins, Reigns, Jeff Hardy, Axel, Lesnar.
I can continue...
@@Speedyreedy1218 bruh get a hobby besides this
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy I'm not a bruh.
Nothing wrong with this hobby.
And it's not my fault you're upset you're wrong.
This thumbnail needed corny's face under the helmet quill wears
I'm on the 8th minute still yet to hear a review on the rivalry show.
Hated HHH in '02.
RVD got hot, HHH beat him.
Kane got hot, HHH beat him... and took his mask.
Booker got hot... HHH beat him after toeing the racism line leading up AND after taking 35 minutes to pin him after one (1) pedigree.
HATED him.
Wrong. RVD was Hot in 2001. No Mercy 2001 he should've beat Austin.
Austin and Rock KILLED Booker late 2001 as a serious viable threat for the top. He was a joke and became an entertaining character the next three years.
Booker's heel U.S title run late 2005 leading to his King Bookah character change was the money move and when he rightfully became WHC.
Kane was hot 1997-1998.
Kane should've KEPT the WWE championship well after KOTR. Austin beating him 24hrs later made no sense and killed the indomitable monster's aura.
2002 Kane wasn't hot. He was only back a month, just returning from his biceps injury mid September. He hadn't been build in enough serious programs to justify giving him the world title 1 month later at No Mercy. HHH was going and needed to hold the title because they were telling the Shawn Michaels story sense August.
Why would Kane beat champ at No Mercy, and Shawn be champ at Survivor Series if Shawn isn't defeating HHH, his biggest foe for the title in the first chamber?
2003 Unmasked Kane was when it came back. But they weren't going to let Kane beat HHH because they wanted Goldberg to dethrone him and he did.
HHH'S storylines and moments when he drops the title are always with continuity and to the right person.
Wardlow used to be over before movies
Did anyone see that flick with Batista where they’re makin someone kill themselves to save the world..I keep forgetting to look for it
I would think that any wrestler was taken under the wing of triple H (management/champion) and paired with Ric Flair, would get over lol
"You're a product of Triple H. What'd you expect to be anything but a success right?"
HHH, 1.31.05, Raw
Sean O'Hare is the biggest missed opportunity for WWE in the 00s
Actually, that would be Muhammad Hassan. Had all the tools and talent and was screwed over by something that was in no way his fault.
The 00s was a brutal time for the fear of terrorism. It was bound to not work like the Sgt. Slaughter heel gimmick during the Persian Gulf
2:14 - 2:20 right here is why it is unfortunate when Jim doesn’t know the background or context of certain WWE wrestlers. He never saw Bray when he was actually good, or New Day when they were the best as intentionally annoying heels.
I'm just spitballin' here but I think, I THINK, Batista may have devloped dramatically from his OVW days to his world title run.
Every single time someone speaks of Batista's name, Corny mentions his chilly meekness of 25 years ago. Yes, we get it.
It's sad we got to the point 25 writers sounded like a conservative number, really that one ever sounded reasonable, but who ever imagined McMahon would manage to quadruple what he had in 2003?
And speaking of chances, Jim has mellowed regarding both Triple H and Batista so much it's crazy.
Batista has been on record that he has social anxiety
Rico looked like a young grandfather idk what Jim is talking about him looking “25”
Did this really come out and why them?