Jim Cornette Reviews A&E's Wrestlemania Biography
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2022
- From Episode 448 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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MTV of the 80s and Nickelodeon of the 90s are what creativity is before the corporation gets so big it kills creativity, like wrestling
Unpopular opinion - it was never creative. It was just better than what came after
@@AmericanNope Yep, that's pretty unpopular, they were pretty creative.
Excellent example 👏🏿
I have to agree. 90's Nickelodeon was where it was at.
i don’t understand why Cyndi Lauper isn’t in the WWE Hall of Fame yet, is it from her own personal reasons? She’s been much more influential to the success of the company than the some of the other musical celebrities in it
They would love a female celebrity inductee who is still semi-relevant, so I’d bet money that she has yet to accept the honor for whatever reason
The bella twins going in ruins the whole thing, bunch of hokem I say
If they are gonna put Pete Rose in the WWE HOF, they damn sure should put Cyndi Lauper in
Where is the WWE Hall of Fame located, again? Y'all always arguing over who should be included in something that doesn't exist.
I saw her in an eczema commercial she should be in degeneration eczema, stupid joke I’m 44 living with my mom
If I remember correctly, Pat mentioned on Legends of Wrestling that Ali originally was going to be the actual ref. But once they met him in person to start going over things, that's when they realized he was already mentally fading and wouldn't be able to do it. So they made him the enforcer, and Pat stepped in. Which had the bonus of helping Mr. T along.
Ali was apparently so gone that he was really trying to get into it with Piper during the match.
Very cool to hear Jim acknowledge that Kerry Von Erich used "Tom Sawyer." RUSH's masterpiece. The modern day warrior. 👊
Whenever I hear that Song, I think about The Modern Day Warrior!
Me 2 that was my first exposure to the classic track as a brother growing up in North St.Louis, in the early 80s.
Gross. Rush is one of the most overrated acts ever.
@@thejoshpresle That's your opinion.
2112 is another one, not that it would work for wrestling
Best time in wrestling to me. The Golden era. Saturday Night Main Event, MTV, and Hogan vs. Piper.
If you look back on Saturday night main event most matches were squash matches.
Hogan vs Paul orndorff omg me and my grandma watching!
@@pl2200 That's not what I remember. The regular weekend TV shows had mostly squash matches, but IIRC, SNME matches were more like Raw or Smackdown matches today.
Of course, SNME was only on once every six weeks or so.
Great time in wrestling for sure.
@@michaelmclaren1333 Mr. Wonderful vs. Hogan in the cage man.
Shit bro you just unlocked a CORE MEMORY,, the REASON I got into wrestling the REASON I even knew what it was was because JYD came out to ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!!! Wow… definitely, the music was a BIG part of it for me as a kid obviously.. the LOD coming out to IRON MAN was another
We don't use the work BRO on this channel. 🤣 You understand what I'm talking about right?
Sting coming out to Seek n Destroy by metallica was awesome;]
Corny with the WWF ice cream bar in the thumbnail is gold. Those were the best ice cream bars ever! 🍦
They need to bring those back!
@@forthedoggiesguitars2277 💯
💯💯💯
Just like the chocolate Graham cracker pop tarts back in the day. The 80's were awesome.
I always got jobbers lol
Yes…I went just about every month to MSG in 81-84…and it did change so much after 84…which Hulkamania was a huge game changer. The hype for this Wrestlemania was unforgettable. Wrestlers were not all over the media like this until this time
Wrestlemania was a risk they took and it was just the right moment in time they had Mr T and they had star appeal an hogan was massive and piper was over it crossed over to the mainstream an it just worked and after wrestlemania 3 it was solidified as a huge show
3 was the best imo…one of the Most Wrestlemania-Y wrestlemanias lol it looked like Woodstock for wrestling daytime by night it seemed like Hogan and Andre were wrestling in the cosmos in front of galaxies 🌌 🪐
@@tobiasfarragut292 yeah I mean it's big today it's like whole weekend of things to do now they have multiple shows the hall of fame indie promotions put on there biggest shows that weekend aswell in the area and everyone makes alot money every year from it. But yeah mania 3 hogan vs andre it felt larger than life. Hogan was the super hero and andre was the giant of a man he had to take down and it wasn't a good match tbh like in terms technical stuff etc but it didn't need to be they just had to hit the big spots right an get to the slam and the rest is history
@@theboxingboy7422 oh yeah it was the most hyped match that was the drizzlin shits… it was a hip toss with two count that SOUNDED like a 3 like hogan missed his cue and kicked out late bear hug, bodyslam leg drop that shit was all selling and drama 😅
@@tobiasfarragut292 Even I knew that match was drizzling crap and I was like 7.
@@lodi70005 when I was 7 Slaughter v Hogan was really part of the Gulf war lol
I’ve heard that the reason why Jimmy Snuka was in Hogan and T’s corner was in case T backed out at the minute.
Snuka was the biggest star until hulk took his spot supefly my all time favorite
Cyndi lauper did wwf and had that song in the goonies. She was a fox and super talent. Hope she's doing well.
i remember the chiptune of that song from Goonies 2 on Nes
Underratedly hot
So many memories. I personally think that underestimate the impact that Rocky 3 had on Hogan’s impact. For example I was living in PR and I knew of Flair, Dusty, the Road Warriors etc but once I saw “Thunderlips” I really wanted to know who this guy was. I was always a NWA fan but really look into WWF because of him.
Nice comment, exactly the same here!!
Yo
yep...spot on comment...I saw rocky 3 in the theaters as a kid...hulk was awesome in it
You must be in your 60s already, correct sir?
@@jamirimaj6880 if it helps...im not sure about the gentleman who made the main comment...I was 8 when I saw rocky 2 ...I had just been getting into Georgia wrestling because where I lived in New york , cable TV had just came to long island....Georgia wrestling was coming up to us kids living in New york on the "New" cable tv....at about the same time I saw rocky 3 and soon hogan was in the wwf...I started really getting into wwf in 84.....im 48 now.....hope that helps
It’s crazy how much wrestling exploded after Mania to where they drew 33 million viewers for Andre vs Hogan on Saturday Night’s Main Event just four years later.
I was there! Nosebleeds in msa, 8 years old;]
Andre vs. Hogan was on The Main Event, not SNME. The show aired on a Friday night on NBC.
And it was three years later, not four. WrestleMania I was 1985; The Main Event was 1988.
In 50 years, people will believe Vince invented wrestling
"Whenever Hulk Hogan says something, you have to immediately fact check it!" Priceless! 🤣😂🤣😂
Vince is the George Lucas of wrestling = his stuff is better when he doesn't have full control.
Maybe Vince will go back and start changing things too? Wrestlemania 3 - Special Edition (Andre beats Hogan). Wrestlemania 17 - Special edition (Austin doesn't turn heel).
According to Roddy Piper's book from a few years ago, Mr. T almost single-handedly derailed the first Wrestlemania. Apparently Mr. T showed up at MSG with an entourage and got pissed when they wouldn't let the entourage into the locker room and wasn't going to do the match. Hogan had to talk to him and calm him down to get Mr. T to do the match.
Piper also said in his book that during the build up for the match, when he smashed the record over Captain Lou Albano's head. Vince wanted him to really kick Cyndi Lauper in the head. Vince thought it would be great heat. Piper wouldn't do it because he knew that if he did, he would never get out of the arena alive not to mention that he would have either gone to jail or been sued for everything he had.
Pipers book was full of more shit than him
Always be weary of wrestlers. They do tend to tell long tales.
Piper was ROIDED and COKED UP most of the time. and made RACIST SLURS Towards Mr T.
Cyndi already seems to have been kicked in the head a few times.
@@jamespaul6315 Yeah, but they're fun to listen to, even if they're BS.
I'll never forget my friends and I wrestling in the backyard a few weeks before the first wrestlemania...we were in 5th grade and all the boys in the grade were totally sold on wrestlemania 1 months before it happened
I've always maintained that Vince's most important and enduring contribution to the Wrestling business is WrestleMania. No one else has created anything that comes close.
Which is funny because Vince didn't switch the name to STARrcade.
Were are my
JIM CORNETT ICE CREAM BARS?
I was a kid. Living in nyc. I tryed to get my dad to get tickets. To this event….. he tryed but the tickets sold out……. We ended up going to the felt forum. And watching it across the street from Madison square garden……. 👋. And watching it on large screen
Brian Last is only 42, he has good wrestling history knowledge. Im impressed
Not to mention he’s also traveled to see a lot of wrestling. He was a teen and already going to East Tennessee and Philly to see SMW and ECW shows. That’s pretty cool as well
You made that up
As someone who is 42 and thought I knew a lot about wrestling, Last runs laps around me. Even if I don't always agree with him, he knows his stuff.
If Vince McMahon hadn't thrown Dr. D David Schultz under the bus, it would've made a great six man tag team main event between Hogan, Mr. T, and Jimmy Snuka v Roddy Piper, Mr. Wonderful, and Dr. D David Schultz.
Rocky 3 was my first exposure to a professional wrestler,. Hulk Hogan was definitely mainstream even in Australia.
Beefcake is in a pretty exclusive club though - Brutus, Hulk, Andre and Tito are the only guys to wrestle at the first six WrestleMania events.
I was a Piper fan. Piper was the original rival to Hulkamania, should get just as much credit for the success of WrestleMania
Yep.
I mean they're always gonna embellish the truth. WWE truly does control their own narrative. However Hogan was an attraction like no other those early years. Over like crazy here in NYC. Every kid in my neighborhood talked WWF. By WrestleMania 3 his hype was truly on a league of his own. It made me rent the coliseum video tape at 4 just seeing him and Andre staring on that cover like two wild men. Savage and Steamboat blew my mind and it kept me as a fan all the way until 2002. The first 8 WrestleManias really felt magical on a level no others until 13 - 19 did again.
I LOVE that Cornette’s review is just as long as the actual program.
They kept repeating how much Vince spent on Wrestlemania but I really wish they would have told the actual dollar amount spent on the event, how much money they made off of the event and how much each celebrity made. What would be the big deal to disclose that kind of information? I think saying Vince would go out of business the next day if Wrestlemania failed is a massive exaggeration.
From what I have read it really isn't far fetched. He was stretched thin trying to beat everyone all at once. It wasn't WrestleMania alone that would bankrupt him, it was everything going on at that time. It was big roster, multiple spot shows per night, buying TV time slots, doing WrestleMania, getting the celebrities, plus a bunch more stuff. If Crockett was paying a million for one areas TV imagine what he was paying to get TV spots around the country and buying out the people who accepted it or matching/ beating what they were paying. The 80s were much different for wrestling than after the late 90s until now.
@@SalsBrain if they want to prove their point, they should have done their research and told us actual dollar amounts, this was a very lazy effort, this should have been the best episode but was very mediocre
@@troysmith5749 They aren't going to, likely ever. It would likely show they exaggerate it.
And Young Bucks could buy the WWE from their newspaper 💰 money 😂
@@joegreene7619 exactly, so give us the numbers, they literally just threw this thing together in a few hours and called it a day
Travis nailed this sketch because I remember having many of those ice cream bars off the ice cream truck or the store. They were popular as shit up until the mid nineties!
Brian's point about the blue collar fan being pushed out of attending shows is a good one. But it's policies of New York that has routinely done that.
Instead of seeing big events as entertainment for the masses, they see them as an opportunity to pillage tax money.
Also, Mr. T had been getting harassed by Dr. D David Schultz (which is the real reason ge was fired) and Piper because they were jealous of his pay. A tale as old as time.
yep!
I turned it off as soon as Stephanie said, "My Dad had a vision."
"Superfly" Jimmy Lauper
I was there as a kid my 1st show I was 7yrs old at msg with my dad 1986-87 I saw the hart foundation vs rugeuo brothers (I know I spelled it wrong) leaping Lanny poffo, macho man , tito Satana and the main event Hulk Hogan vs Harley race I've been hooked ever since. Then my very next time we went to msg was for none other than summerslam 88' megapowers vs megabucks wow what a night still don't know how my dad got those tickets but sure glad he did. Miss you pop love you Pop
Ooooh there's a scary substitute... Cyndi Lauper for Snuka, Shania Twain is now Chris Benoit!!
Hulk hogan was supposed to be main character in quantum leap tv show, but the lazers weren’t big enough to zap him into time and space. Special effect Budget costs.
We need to ask Jim Cornette about his personal opinion of the WWF Ice Cream Bars.
We need Jim Cornette ice cream bars. Cornette's picture on one side and the words "Thank you, fuck you, bye" on the other.
@@AWX_Wrestling i mean, they're already shaped like a tennis racket. lol
I never tried the original the new ones they came out with are as boring as the actual wrestling
@@Sky_Blaze correct
When I worked at a Gamestop in Woburn,Ma I had an ex wife of Brutus Beefcake come in asking for any WWE games featuring him, only 1 featured him that we had available ( as a downloadable character) as she planned to take him to court for whatever money he was residually earning from it.
That's just sad
That’s hilarious.! Beef cake looks like Jett from weird science
Joke's on her; he probably didn't get paid much, if at all.
That's so despicable. Bad part is that the ex wife probably ended up with more of his money and property than he did.
Dumbest memorabilia sale I’ve ever done was selling Buddy Rose’s mask and boots from the first match at wm1.
I think we need an andre the giant /Stephanie McMahon animated series.
The Giant and the Billion Dollar Princess.
Stephanie knew Andre and you never did
Let it go
The Mountains Center in Gainesville Georgia actually ran Starrcade '91 on closed circuit lol. It wasn't exactly sold out, but, there was a good many people there. They also ran Starrcade 1990 on closed circuit too, the year previous & that was slam packed. Both showings also included several live matches too from talent who weren't booked for the shows. It was interesting how they had the big screen set up lol.
My friends and I lived for MTV and wrestling back then. It was a great time to grow up.
I wonder why Bob Backlund didn't go to the AWA, or NWA after he left the WWF after he lost the belt to The Iron Sheik? I'm sure in the AWA, he would've fit perfectly with the Verne Gagne model of wrestling. With the NWA, he would've gave Ric Flair a run for his money for the NWA World Heavyweight Title.
nothing will ever top WWF ice cream bars...i wonder if corny still has any of those VH1 tapes?
When Beefcake appeared on the show I said “oh Brutus, what happened?” and my ten year old son said “He’s really let himself go.” I give Brutus a pass though. He did have that accident that almost killed him, and for all practical purposes ended his career, in 1990 so I don’t think we should judge his appearance to harshly. A near death experience is bound to impact how you’re going to look as you age.
Beef cake looks like Jett from weird science
He was jacked as disciple in wcw
It's crazy to see these wrestlers we knew from the 80's all old and shrunken down, isn't it?
@@scottshaffer7296 Best shape I ever saw Beefcake was as Disciple in 98
The book Bian was talking about (and never mention) is probably Tim Hornbaker 's Death of the Territories: Expansion, Betrayal and the War That Changed Pro Wrestling Forever
@22:40 match quality didnt matter until savage/steamboat at wm3. those two changed the formula. from the point on, there were wrestlers who tired to put on the best match on the biggest show.
Hulk Hogan should be blown. Hulk Hogan MADE the entire wrestling business. NOBODY mattered but Hulk Hogan.
Ali was supposed to be the main ref but when they found out how messed up he was that week of, Pat Patterson quickly came up with the floor referee angle.
On the ice cream sandwich in the screen cap, I misconstrued the tennis racket for Jim getting head.😂
How much to get Corny and the Great Brian Last to do a commentary over WrestleMania 1? With the amount of wrestling history lodged into both of these minds and them knowing the history of the people involved? It would be a great history lesson from these two.
I wish the 20/20 spot with DR D. didnt happen. Schultz had major heel heat and having him with Piper, just before he got fired, was amazing.
I agree but I just wish Vince McMahon had his back like he did with Hogan. Schultz was incredible
@@derricklavender4672 Dr.D wasn’t the draw. Vince was going to go with the guy that’s his draw.
@@KervinOP I don't disagree with that but I feel if Vince would have had his back it would have helped and them there no telling where his career could have gone. But ya I agree
@@derricklavender4672 Vince dropped him like a bad habit. He didn’t want the bad press by condoning his actions. It was messed up because Vince practically ordered him to intimidate Stossel.
@@KervinOP basically Vince chickened out
I was in the grocery store last week. Two young employees were talking current wwe wrestling whilst stocking the fruit. I wanted to interrupt and say,
"If you think it's good now then you should have seen it back it the day, when it was really good."
“Hearing aids are in aisle 5 sir” they’d reply with
You would've been ignored or laughed at for being a goober.
Brian's Andre impression at 24:13 popped me.......lol
Wrestlemania Trivia: The very first wrestler to enter the ring at Wrestlemania 1... Buddy Rose as a heel in a mask.
They’re spot on about the crowds…go back and watch the powers of pain vs the road warriors bench press contest. The fans were going crazy, equivalent to a John cena pop today
This video dropped late at night on the east coast and as much as I love listening to jim and Brian I was gonna wait till tomorrow to watch but honestly I couldn’t wait because of Travis’s artwork ! It’s just incredible how his artwork pulls you in . Why is hulk hogan in pigtails ?why is jim eating a superstar ice cream bar with him on it while wearing An mtv T-shirt ?
Rocky 3 came out in 1982, Wrestlemania I was in 1985....three year difference.
The beginning of Sports Entertainmentmania.
Rasslemania, truly the Superbowl, Olympics, Woodstock and World Cup combined for 40 year old virgins
That's crazy. I thought them saying Vince gambled it all at Mania was BS. Crazy to hear he actually was so tight on money that it NEEDED to work
Steph McMahon is not aging well, Iceman King Parsons used the song "We are family" Kerry Von Erich also used "Eye of the tiger", David Wolfe wanted to be a wrestling Manager Period, I had heard Snuka was there to watch Piper & Orndorff so they did not take liberties with Mr. T
Is there any footage of Corny and the Midnights on MTV?
It's not enough for Vince Jr. and WWE to win, it is not enough for them to be first. They have to be "only". If they make an exception it is only temporary and in fact serving that agenda long term.
What no one ever seems to mention is the fact The WWF ran shows on just about every Regional Sports Network in The United States and Canada back then. You see that when you look at WWF Shows during The 1980's.
Its been forty years Jim, you don't need to still be so salty that the WWF and Hogan crushed the NWA.
Seriously, calling Hogan an insufferable douche bag about it was is example of Jim’s distain For WWF and Hogan. They did beat NWA , and they didn’t gain ground on them until they were WCW under Tuner 1996, oh yeah with Hulk Hogan.
@@KervinOP Yet he decided to work there in 1993.
@@chadk890 he hated Jim herd.
I respect how loyal Jim is to his friends and coworkers. I think his tone would be a lot different about The WWF if he'd cut his teeth there instead of JCP.
Him and Bret are like 2 sides of the opposite coin, with little knowledge or respect for the rival promotions golden era's
I wish I could have one of those Superstar Icecream Bars again they were actually pretty damn good on a hot September day like today Jake Bret Yokozuna Undertaker IRS Beefcake Macho Man Razor they were fuckin awesome guys.
The trading cards that used to be packaged with them were pretty great.
Hence during Punk's first promo for AEW, he talked about ice cream for the crowd 😎
According to Dusty in RF Shoot interview didnt think of promoting the way Vince did with cable's MTV, SNL, wirth celebrities. Yeah they were TOO BUSY spending the money on themselves rather than production and across the board promoting. OMG when they ran the Great American Bash in Philadelphia's Veteran Stadium. No radio, newspaper, tv, zero as far as I remember,. ONLY the local UH channel they broadcasted on. For god sake Dusty, did he not realize how HUGE a media market Philadelphia is/was .
Several people have went on record thru the years about Mr. T being closely kept up with before the event & even during the match itself lol. Hogan, Piper & even Orndorff have talked about it over the years.
Hogan was on an episode or two of “The A-Team,” which at the time I thought was strange and you could tell that George Peppard hated it. Delivered all of his lines with his teeth clenched.
When you finally figure out what in the world that thumbnail is, it’s hilarious. Kudos, Travis!
"You don't get that fat from snortin'."
I Remember When 'GreatWhite' Played on MTV Every 10 Minutes!
(Once Bitten)
Jim's pronunciation of Beyoncé killed me. Lol.
"Burt Reynolds, the first time I met him, he introduced me at Madison Square Garden at Wrestlemania X" - Roddy Piper
I think WWE should try closed circuit for the big shows again. Imagine, if you can't go live. Watching Wrestlemania, or the Royal Rumble in a movie theater. That's sounds like a really good 2nd opinion to seeing to live, because you are still with a crowd.
Dont forget Exotic Adrian Street also had his song that he sang in the early 80s
I missed the episode of Biography but did they mention that they had to refund the money for all the satellite locations that the closed circuit broadcast failed and people rioted? They ended up broadcast it for free the following weekend in those cities.
They did not mention it at all. If they did, I missed it. Still, I don't think biography made any mention of where they had closed circuit failures. Kind of like how Jim & Brian said at the beginning of the episode, they didn't talk about issues that went wrong.
@@crash777burn because its a fairy tale version of the story
cornette here points out when wrestlers were using licensed songs but who was the 1st wrestler to have their own produced song that was a wrestling song first?
Can we get more on the hannibal situation? Hes saying he was assaulted now
The Rock n Wrestling Connection is a huge reason of how and why I got into wrestling in my youth, and I'm sure it's a huge reason why and how I love female rock singers still to this day. Cyndi is supposed to come out with a biographical documentary called, "Let The Canary Sing" and I wonder how much of it will feature wrestling footage.
Also, I wonder if that's how Rick Derringer, who performed Hogan's theme, became Cyndi's guitarist for True Colors...
Jim hits on why WWE really won the war here, and it's something I think he's downplayed or glossed over sometimes in the past. Once Vince was able to get his product/roster to be involved with mainstream pop culture outlets, it didn't matter if JCP (or anyone else) was doing comprable business among the wrestling fans, because when the broader general public thought of pro wrestling at that point, they were thinking of WWE and the WWE talent.
There was no WWE.
@@goodday2760 Spare me the semantics.
@@user-do2ev2hr7h It's not semantics. I'm surprised you don't know that. Referring to the pre-WWE days as WWE has specific implications and shapes the way people think in certain ways.
@@goodday2760 What implications are those? It's simply referring to the same company by it's current name as opposed to the former. Most everyone does that for ease of use. Even Jim does that regularly.
@@goodday2760 100% semantics and you know it. lol
What happened to my MTV?! 😔 Went from teen spirit to teen pregnancy. Thank you guys for the videos 👍👍
Snuka should have won the WWWF Title instead boring Backlund
Jimmy was having issues back then. Buddy Rogers tried to help him
So Jimmy Snuka is Cyndi Lauper? Same way Chris Benoit is Stevie Richards?
Even the wwf Saturday morning show where it was just squash matches was don't miss TV.
20:52
Because the crowd was focused on the matches and the event itself, not checking their IPhones for what color lip gloss Kim Kardashian is wearing today.
That's because smartphones hadn't been around at that time
*"ya think AnE is gonna milk Bio episodes for every WM?"*(BobbytheBrainHeenanVoice)
After listening to Jim and Brian all these years as I'm watching this bio I was like what about this, what about the $1000000, what about that I feel Jim and Brian do a much better job of the details.
The main problem with wrestling is that everyone wants to be cool. You entered an industry where you put on colorful tights and fake fight. Stop being cool and be larger than life. Look at Connor and Mayweather. Imagine is everything. The worst worker The warrior made so much for WWE he was larger than life. The pro wrestling draft pool sucks. It's bad when Jade Cargill looks better than more than half of your male wrestlers. GO TO THE DAMN GYM! NBA, NFL, MLB take the best of the best to compete in their respective environments. Wrestling does not have that anymore. It's dead! All we have is Cornette and his beautiful delivery to his stories. Love the podcast gentlemen keep it up! 💯
What about Roman Reigns?
@@goodday2760 Roman is good he became larger than life when he started the "tribal chief" gimmick and not some knock off Jason Mamoa. Wrestling is a fantasy take us away from the reality and give us a great show with great storytelling.
Its pretty bad that my only point of reference for Eye of the tiger is the one Katy Perry song that says it in the hook
Fantastic bumper card, they are all great but something about this one jumps out at me.
They underplayed the women's match? I wonder if there's still a bit of a moratorium on mentioning Moolah after the battle royal thing? She was on your favorite show Young Rock though
Vince miss on Don Muraco as world champion. I think it was better Jr took over. If Jr was in charge Superstar Billy Graham turning baby face and would be Hogan
The MTV angle with Lauper Wolff and Albano was the most Memphis-like angle WWF ever did. I hated what Vince was doing my rasslin’ but that angle and the weird confrontation in SNL definitely hooked me.
A movie theater showing wrestlemania is a pretty new thing for me , I haven't watched it that way yet but I'd like to.
It happens for quite a few things. Theres a drive-in near Madisonville KY that does it for all sporting PPVs. Wrestling included.
Supposedly Vince was "rolling the dice" on mania 3 as well (but there didn't seem to be nearly as big of a chance of it failing) . . .
16:53 😂
Jim is right. The main event was the seller in mania 1. The tag title match and IC title were certainly card worthy but the times were short for all the matches.
Vince Sr.'s Showdown at Shea card was a much better card in terms of more main event worthy matches on 1 card
And of course Andre on the card at mania 1 time was a main event level match and add the drama of the body slam and money