Specialized Future Shock 1.5 | Everything You Need to Know
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Can't figure out how to remove the blank top cap on your Future Shock 1.5 equipped Specialized Diverge, Roubaix, Ruby, or Sirrus? Need a run down on how to swap boost springs? Need to access the headset for service? I tried to cover all bases in this bike tech video on the new Specialized Future Shock 1.5 system.
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The Future Shock 1.5 system is an update to the original Future Shock debuted on the Specialized Roubaix in 2017. It comes standard on many of the new Specialized bikes including the 2021 Diverge in this video. Servicing the Future Shock 1.5 is slightly different than its predecessor and also a bit different than its damped counterpart, the Future Shock 2.0.
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Also, if you damage your Future Shock top cap like I almost did, you can order a replacement with this part number:
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One suggestion was to loosen the stem bolts and use the friction of the stem against the top cap to remove it. This method was unsuccessful for me, but worth a shot if you’re having trouble removing the top cap.
Comments / questions are always welcome!
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You need to loosen the stem pinch bolts before trying to loosen the top cap if it feels really tight. Once you’ve done this, firm downward pressure with your thumbs normally enables you to gain enough friction to unscrew the cap without any damage.
Great video! To keep from marring the cap, loosen the stem pinch bolts and move the handlebars back and forth first, then unscrew the cap by hand. Once the cap is unscrewed, pull up on it to remove it as an O-ring on the small threaded shaft holds it in.
Totally enjoy your videos dude. Informative without being dull or overwhelming. Found you because of the Diverge Sport. Ordered mine once they were released! Still waiting. Keep the videos coming.
Thx man! So motivating to hear. Working on new videos at the moment.
Thx for the detailed breakdown of the future shock 1.5. You've solved one of life's greatest mysteries :) Hopefully, the over-engineered, convoluted design does not come loose.
Haha. Yes hopefully. Looks expensive to replace..
@@TheBikeSauce Looks can be deceiving. In this case of Specialized they used to be pure facts. Very expensive spare parts, rather buy a new frame. Much cheaper. :D)))
I just bought a Diverge identical to yours. I loosened the two stem bolts first, pushed down on the stem and I was then able to remove cap with my fingers - no channel locks required. Thanks for the very informative video!
Thanks for watching! Yes it does seem like others have had an easier time than I did when trying to get the cap off. Cheers!
Really like your videos. Very informative without being overly technical. Nice job!
Thanks for the feedback!
I am not a bike technician but have a good mechanical background. I agree that best not tighten the 'collar' without the shock in place, BUT, if you try and add pre-load by tightening the 2mm 'screws' against the race, the collar is only held by the small front locating screw, and all that happens is that as the 2mm pre-load screws are tightened against the race, the collar actually is forced up...you can actually measure this. Best is, (perhaps...views please), to do the adjustment with the shock in place and the collar tightened up. You can still access the 2mm set-screws and the 2.5mm locking screws. I really don't think that you can pre-load the head bearings unless the collar is secure. (Just my view, for others to comment...I am NOT saying this method is correct way...just the way that makes most sense to me.
Many thanks for the very helpful videos.
I agree with you actually. Funny you mention this- I’m currently making a video on doing the headset preload this way
Again, many thanks for making these videos. Very very helpful.
Thanks for the informative video. I was wondering why I had an extra two springs. The shop where I bought the bike had conveniently installed the firm one for me.
Thanks! Nice video that will save me some headaches in the future. Picking up a Diverge Base Carbon on Monday so good to know how this system works. Also have some Hunt wheels ordered. Been riding an aluminum Giant gravel bike but that one is doing indoor trainer duty now.
Nice thx for watching. Happy new bike day! If you need to adjust your stem height, I’ve got another video explaining the process. It’s not too bad.
Excellent informative vid as usual. Referenced it to see the differences between FS 1.0 and 1.5 as I was going to install a 1.5 unit into my 2018 Diverge with FS 1.0. Installed with no issues. Will test this weekend.
How work the future shock 1,5 en your diverge 2018 ?
Thanks for this. Helped explain how it all works-and therefore the questions to ask the folk setting my new one up!
Happy it helped!
Great Insight on the Future Shock , I love that feature on my Sirrus X 5.0
"....go ahead and thread this little bugger back on" - brilliant - took my back to my Yorkshire roots!
Ha! I've got no connection to England, but it seemed like the right noun to use.
Great info and dope background music 👊
You should get paid by Specialized. This is much better than the information they provide. Thank you and keep the good work. I am subscribed.
Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful.
Thanks for the video bro. Just picked up a 2021 Roubaix Comp 64cm and was carious as to how I could swap the stem if needed.
Great video which explained everything, thanks..
Thanks for this detail. I like the new Diverge tire clearance and SWAT storage but the design and weight of Future Shock makes the bike a no-go for me.
Totally fair. It's a complicated system that adds a solid 350-400 grams. For this video, I totally stripped the system down and rebuilt it and, while it is complex, I haven't had any issues with it after the rebuild even after some gnarly chunk on a couple of rides. I agree that probably a standard headset and a Redshift stem might be a more robust system. Cheers!
Did not know I didnt have the helper spring in my Creo! Thanks for teaching me that.
Thanks for watching!
I couldn't figure out the top cap either, but after watching this video and reading the comments I found that by loosening the stem first the top cap unscrews easily by hand.
Nice. Glad it worked for you. For me even loosening the stem first didn’t help. Happy to see a helpful conversation going in the comments.
I couldn't figure out the top cap either, but after watching this video and reading the comments I found that by unscrewing the stem first the top cap comes off easily by hand.
Yup, seems like this trick works for several people.
Thanks this video has helped loads
Super helpful. Thanks!
Awesome vid!
Thank you. I have a 2021 Roubaix.
Thank you!
Cheers for the insight. I checked this last night on my bike and had no spring in there. Just picked up the 3 springs today from the LBS.
Right on. Good to have for future tweaking
Digging your videos, thanks!
Thx for watching!
You can easily remove the Top Cap by removing the handlebars first then loosen the stem and rotate it counter clockwise with the top cap a half turn or more then rotate the stem back holding the top cap in place. This helps to separate the two and you’re good to go!
Thx. Yea others mentioned this too. No luck in my case, but I think it was exceptionally tight for some reason
Thanks most helpful
The top stem cap can be removed but loosening the stem bolts and then turning the stem to the left. Then you can just unscrew the top cap by hand with out tools or risk of damaging the the stem cap.
Good call. I did try this as well, but in my case the stem didn’t grab the top cap and turn with it. Unlucky I guess.
Great advice, thanks. It might be an idea for The Bike Sauce to add this to the video description.
Definitely will do.
Great video and extremely clear explaination.
Do specialised provides the different springs with the bike?
Thanks a lot for your great work.
Love the bluesy music too
Thx for watching. The bike comes with three different springs (or should have). Black, blue, yellow.
@@TheBikeSauce cool I thank you a lot for your prompt answer.
merry xmass from HongKong
Hong Kong, cool! Merry xmas
Great video.
Thanks, Randall!
Great video, thanks! I guess it’s not possible to increase the stem clamp area to fit a stem with a stack that’s taller than a standard stem?
Thank you so much! I'm trying to tighten my headset and so confused!
Ha, it’s complicated for sure. Hopefully you got it sorted
Turns out my diverge didn't come with a spring installed either! Woof.
I went with the medium one as well. I could def notice more chatter with the stiffest spring. Future shock def helps absorb the NYC potholes!
Nice! It’s not for everyone, but I certainly appreciate it despite the complexity
Same here, owning diverge for more than a year, most useful yt recommendation in a lifetime ;)
@@kaanjin What's weird is that the guy at the LBS selling me the bike said that he owns a diverge yet there wasn't a spring in the one he was selling me. I dunno, maybe someone else at the shop built it up
I think I have the same Diverge. Have you found a better spring or any tweaks for it to ride better on road and for climbing? thanks, for the great vid.
Good video and much useful info. However I'd just like to point out that I think that tightening those preload bolts down without the FS cartridge installed and collar clamping bolt fully tightened is not a good idea. The only thing holding the collar onto the steerer at that point is that small locator bolt. The installation instructions show that tightening the preload bolts is the very last thing you do... after you've fitted the stem and everything.
This.
Agreed
amazing video again. are you an engineer?
Ha! Yes, mechanical engineer by trade.
Thanks for your helpful video, I`m Alex from Colombia, I found a small arrow (On the rubber part), maybe this is the proper way to align it, about the three flat surfaces. Greetings and again many thanks
Oh interesting. Thanks for the feedback!
This is such a great video. What size is your Diverge Sport Carbon? I almost went with that fern color, but chickened out.
Thanks! It's a 52cm. I'm 5'8" and the fit is really good. Ha! I've never had an 'exciting' color on a bike before, so I just went with it. Did you go with the yellow, or the dark blueish color?
@@TheBikeSauce Went with the more modest blue color, partially because the fern color still required assembly and I was impatient. Also, I noticed you had an Alameda Bicycle jersey in another video -- that's my local shop! I'm down on Shoreline right along the beach. We just bought another bike for my GF there and everyone was great, as always. Love that shop.
Great color, too! More importantly - CRAZY news about Alameda Bike. I grew up in Alameda and worked at Alameda bike all through high school and college (late 90's-early 00's). I still talk to Gene once in a blue moon, tell him Nolan says 'hi' if you think of it. Cheers!
Hi thanks for a very useful and excellent vid
Two questions, what torque wrench are you using?
How does someone obtain the Specialized Roubaix service manual?
Oh yeah, BRILLIANT solution for the 3 mm wrench
It’s a Titan torque wrench from Jenson. Seems reliable and much less than the Park tool alternative. All of the specialized owners manuals are available online. I just looked up the Roubaix, which is basically the same as the diverge manual
@@TheBikeSauce Hey Bro, Thanks so much for the info, much appreciated
Hi friend! It's possible to remove the roubaix fork and install a "normal" one? Eliminate completely the future shock system? I mean, build regular road bike with another compatible fork.
Great video! Thank you. I bought my bike new and rode >8k miles in 2 years. I just checked and no spring. What the heck.
😆 seems as though you didn’t need it. Great work!
Yes.!!!
All you have to do to get that cap off is take the palm of your hand press down and turn at the same time and it will unscrew pretty quickly
Q: at what stage do I insert the Spacers, to increase the height of the cockpit? beneath the "ducky" shroud or beneath the stem? might have been lost in translation in the video for me... THX!
Great video to explain Future Shock mechanicals. I see you have a Diverge. Do you think the bars damping and softer ride are worth the extra 400 gm on the Roubaix road bikes?
Thanks for watching. Well I think that Specialized’s “smoother is faster” marketing slogan has a lot of validity in practice. In short, a smoother ride will experience less suspension losses and therefore be faster overall. Anything that can reduce the hysteretic losses will ultimately produce a more efficient bike and the future shock does that to a degree by absorbing vibrations in an undamped manner before they reach the rider (highly damped). The argument is that this benefit outweighs the weight penalty, which isn’t actually that significant.
From experience, I do like the FS system. I don’t ride with power, but I can say that I’m no where near as fatigued as I used to be on my old Roubaix SL4 with no suspension. And that alone has been worth it
@@TheBikeSauce You make a convincing argument. I’m going go out and test out a Roubaix based on your experience. Specialized should appreciate your detailed and evidence-based reviews. Your viewers certainly do!
Hi Bike Sauce, hi everyone,
Very informative video.
I just got my new Specialized Diverge Base Carbon 2021 (with Future Shock 1.5) from my local bike shop this week.
The shop did not provide any springs or owner manual with the bike, although I asked if any manual was provided with the bike, answer was no.
Now, I realize that some of you got 3 springs for the FS (or 2 if one was already installed) together with the bike, is that right?
Maybe a quick poll to check who receive the 3 springs upon delivery?
I can start: mine came with 3 springs, none installed.
If you ever want to put a standard fork, no future shock, is that possible? I understand you can't combine a standard fork and a future shock but what if you drop the future shock?
Thx!
Grazie mille 🎉
Great video, very informative. I followed the instructions and could not remove the future shock, I am trying to change to lower fairing, any tips?
Once you loosen the collar pinch bolt, it takes a bit of torque to twist the cartridge free the first time. Make sure everything’s loose, then have at it
@@TheBikeSauce thanks, I’ll give it another try
At 8:15 I thought you would torque pinch bolt then set preload no?
Hey I have this bike but my stem etc is all lose an wobbly I’m stuck now to Tighten it all up
Great video thanks. Have you ever come across the future shock stem loosing its lateral stiffness so the bars have lateral movement (in addition to the designed up and down). Bike shops response was “it should t do that: but specialized won’t replace because out of sarà tee. Have had to order a replacement FS1.5 but wondered if you had seen this before and if there was a way of servicing the existing one.
Sorry to hear. I haven’t experienced any lateral play. Expensive replacement… also, officially they are not serviceable and need to be replaced
How much are they charging for the replacement Future Shock?
On the order of a few hundred dollars last I checked
At 7:50 I said to myself: too much part there , is there a way to put a normal fork with a standard 1.25 steerer? There are only Specialized who make 64cm gravel AL frames (and it's only 59) and my other choice is Canyon grizl in 2XL but their steerer is uncommon 1.25'' .That annoy me with all their particular standards when tall frame are rare to get.
Cool video! out of curiosity, do you know if the stem can be changed or do you need it to be proprietary from specialized? I got a roubaix sport 2020 with the future shock 1.5. The stem has exposed bolts and I keep having a bloody knee every time I pedal hard out of saddle due to scratching my knee against the bolt.
Stem can be swapped. You’ll need the spacer that came with the bike, however, to use a different stem. Funny you bring it up. I’m working on a video to explain this at the moment. Thx for watching!
what has your experience been with the springs. Did the medium spring work out for you, or did you change the spring? What did you end up using? Thanks
I tried them all. Ended up with the medium spring and haven’t touched it since
Hi There. Excellent video. Do you know if you can upgrade from 1.5 to 2.0 ?
Ha funny you should ask. This Sunday’s video will address exactly that and compare the two directly. (Spoiler - you can switch back and forth with no issues)
Very interesting video, thanks a lot! I got my Comp E5 delivered yesterday and took it to a 25 mile test ride this morning. On very rough terrain, roots and stones I felt that there was "contact" within the head tube / future shock. Tonight I saw your video and opened the future shock system on my bike to see that there was also no spring installed. Is there any chance that the bike / head tube / future shock can be damaged riding without a spring installed? I cannot find any information from Specialized on this exact question/topic. How many miles did you ride before discovering there was no spring? Any concerns? Thx!
Thanks for reaching out. I’d say it’s probably fine without a spring. If you’re bottoming out, then probably start w medium spring and see from there. This isn’t like an air shock on mtb or anything. Just a basic spring. I ride for about 500 miles with no spring and haven’t had any issues. I’ve had the medium spring in ever since.
@@TheBikeSauce Thank you for your fast answer. It is strange that Specialized doesn't install one of the three springs already at the factory and the owner can later decide if he/she wants to swap it. I will contact Specialized and ask what they have to say about riding without a spring / possible damage.
All the best for your channel!
Thanks!
спасибо)
First movie on this chanel and already susribed 😃 just got e5 comp version of a bike , any tips how to transfrom oem axis wheels so i ca😊n use them with sram xdr 12 sprocket cassete ? I want to use them on other bike and diverge with my carbon with grx cassete
Cheers! Don’t think you can convert your stock hubs to xdr.
Informative. Can you tell me if it will fit a 700c X 47mm tire. Teravail cannonball or Rutland to be exact
Officially, the diverge fits a 700C x 47, but practically speaking, the measured width will depend on the specific tire (I haven't test fitted any Teravails yet) and also the rim width. Sorry I can't be more helpful!
Thanks for reply.
Because of your videos I bought a 2021 Diverge E5 Comp, thanks!. I've had my bike since the end of December and I got a question. Is it normal for the Future Shock to have very minor play in the headset? I've ensured the two 2.5mm vertical screws are properly torqued. But when I hold the front brake and move the bike gently back and fourth I notice very slight play in the headset, do you notice the same thing with yours?
I did recently notice this on mine. Simple case of loose headset. Coincidentally I’m making a video on how to tighten it this week. 😆 but, use you can tighten it with the 2 - 2mm screws on either side. Then lock them down with the 2.5mm screws on top
@@TheBikeSauce I guess I needed to read the instructions better😂 Thanks! I look forward to your video. Might I suggest a video about brake rotor rub. That would also be super helpful!
Same problem
I have few issues with my FS 1.0 on Roubaix 2018.
First, it rattles when I drop the front wheel to the ground. I can't find the reason since the headset isn't loose.
Second, the collar doesn't seem to need 3mm hey as there are two small (2.5&2mm I think) allen bolts that you first set tension with smaller one and then lock it down with bigger one.
I feel like the black spring is too soft for me as it sags 1cm or so when riding the bike and it's easy to bottom out so it doesn't seem very supportive when hitting road imperfections.
Above all I'm annoyed with the rattle issue which rears it's ugly head when riding gritty surfaces such as cobbles or stones plates.
I don't think the issue is with FS because I got new replacement since the original had some issues.
Shop guys can't help much and Creo they have in the shop with FS 1.5 doesn't seem to exhibit such issues.
The rattling is interesting. I get the sound of the internal spring 'popping' but it's not really a rattle. Unfortunately, the internals aren't serviceable. Also, I believe that they went to a progressive spring on the 1.5 and 2.0. You might see if you can swap in a stiff boost spring from a 1.5 or 2.0 to prevent bottoming out.
@@TheBikeSauce I found the source of the rattle. It wasn't actually Future Shock, but Shimano RS505 levers. With handlebars removed it doesn't rattle when I drop the front wheel. On another note, how much travel are you getting? I read FS had 20mm travel but I'm only getting about 10mm and I've checked Specialized Turbo Creo at the shop with FS 1.5 and it's the same thing.
Can this be delivered 2 or 3 day?
Hi there. Question Curious to know if can you retro fit a Specialized Future Shock Headset on to a older Specialized bicycle and do the they sell just that unit ?
Officially, no. It’s a different fork and the frame is designed around the FS as well. Also I haven’t heard of any shop that sells the FS unit retail. I’d look into the Redshift suspension stem. Same effect and will work with a standard fork / headset setup.
Just a note here about the headset adjustment : you DO NOT NEED A THIN 3MM OPEN END SPANNER ... the locking set screw ( 2.5 mm ) is hollow and a 2mm allen wrench will go thru to make the slackness adjustment ! ... then lock in place using the 2.5mm allen
But the 3mm spanner holds the 2mm in place while you tighten the 2.5
@@TheBikeSauce Your suggestion about making your own 'spanner' out of plastic is genius 😄👍🏻. Seriously, I wish I'd thought of that 3 years ago when I bought my Roubaix
Which spring would you recommend for a rider that will be doing 75% road 25% gravel? Thanks for the feedback
If I’m really being honest, there’s not a huge difference. These are booster springs in addition to the main spring. I’ve been running the medium spring for all conditions and haven’t given it a second thought.
I tested a Sirrus X 4.0 with future shock "small" spring, but didn't notice much shock absorption riding over cobblestone. Do you think that would be improved with one of the other springs? A guy at a shop said choosing the proper spring level is based on the cyclist's weight (e.g., lighter riders would go with small, and heavier riders large), implying I would feel even less assistance with the larger spring. I don't really know what this means now that I've seen your video, and you differentiate the springs as soft, medium and firm.
There are 3 springs available, but you can also remove all the springs entirely and rely on the cartridge spring. That would be the lightest option
Scratched the cap after watching this when I only needed to loosen the bolts first ffs….
In your video you noted an "owners kit". I got my Sirrus at Landry's Bikes in Braintree Mass yesterday and left with a bike, but was not given a manual or kit. Was I supposed to get more than the bike with the purchase?
You should receive a couple of owners manuals and extra parts for the future shock.
Future shock parts would include: extra spacers, 3 helper springs, alternate duck bill spacer
How do you remove the metal sleeve from the stem ? On my Vado bike, it’s super tight and I can’t figure out how to slide it out
It can be tight, especially if it wasn’t greased from the factory. If brute force doesn’t work, you can gently pry the stem where the pinch bolts are with 2 flatheads and a small object acting as a fulcrum
Press down on the Centre of the cap then turn it comes Off easy
Thanks for the input. Perhaps this would work for some.
Stem/future shock beating cover how close is this ment to sit as mine seems quite high tan there is a cap an I can see the pins etc Rain is easily going to get in there Any advice How close this needs to be to the frame ?
No way to prevent rain from getting in there. It should be no more than 2-3mm from the frame
Can a standard fork be put on this bike or do you need to run the whole future shock system?
The fork steer tube are different diameters, but it may technically be possible. Either way, it’s not recommended especially because the frame itself has a cutout at the top of the headtube designed to match the future shock hardware
An easy way to get the top cap off without scratching it is to simply loosen the stem bolts at the steer tube and rotate the stem/handlebars while applying a bit of upward pressure against the top cap. It'll loosen right up and no tools needed other than a hex wrench for the stem.
Right. Others have had good luck with this method too. Tried on mine and was simply too tight. Now when I put it on, I only go finger tight
Read my mind.
Hy nice video. Do you also get a clicking noise from the future shock when you compress it fast?
I do! Even without a boost spring I can hear it. It’s somewhere in the main FS body, so don’t know how to address it.
@@TheBikeSauce Thanks for the reply. So i suppose that's normal since i heard about that frequently?!
@@stefanruess4913 Well, it would be nice to see it addressed by Specialized, but yes, I'd say there's nothing wrong with yours.
I only hear the noise when bottoming out the shock (similar to a conventional damper. Try a stronger pre-load spring.
Yes, this definitely helps a bit. Thx!
hello! is change future shock 1.5 to 2.0 on specialized diverje comp e5 2021 possible?
I believe they are technically compatible, but future shock cartridges are not available for consumer purchase. You’d have to speak with a Specialized dealer about it.
Do you still enjoy the bike after all this time? So many bikes out there it's crazy to pick and choose one?
Still my favorite drop bar bike!
the cap is super tight on my fiance's new bike too. haven't gotten it off yet
Haha. Some have recommended loosening the stem pinch bolts and using the rotation to help torque the cap
@@TheBikeSauce this worked great!
Little bugger! 😅 Have you been to Australia?
Haha I wish. Truthfully don’t know where that came from. Must’ve been been watching some OZ cycle before I recorded this one 😆
Did you add the helper spring, is it needed, and which color did you use if you did?
I added the medium (black, 25lb/in) spring. Whether it’s ‘needed’ or not depends on your preference and weight. It’s not like mtb suspension where you set sag, etc.. just try different springs until it feels right.
The Bike Sauce
Thanks
The Bike Sauce
I’ve been riding without any secondary spring since they didn’t install it at the dealer. I’m curious to see how much of a difference it will be.
Really surprised that there as no spring installed by the bike shop.
Yea I think it’s a default setting. The future shock actually works just fine without a boost spring. The three options are there mostly for people who want a bit stiffer feel.
Hi, can you help me , my poor English don't give me chance to understood whole vid. Is there some info about how to lock future shock 1.5? Is there some upcoming problems with this system if i dont have any official services in my country?
The 1.5 cannot be locked out, unfortunately. The recommendation is to replace it every 500 hours of riding time. It’s a problem we will all face, and I’m not sure what it will look like once we need to start replacing them
@@TheBikeSauce thanks.
Isit possible to put a aerofly handle bar on this roubaix ?
This is a diverge, but you could put the Aerofly bar on the Roubaix
What are the "helper" spring for? How does it actually works? Anyone tried the different spring and feel any performance difference?? Thanks in advance.
The main cartridge has a nominal spring in it. You can firm it up using one of the three additional springs. I use the medium weight helper spring and it’s pretty good. It’s based on preference. Also, the FS2.0 has a knob that incrementally adjusts the spring rate instead of 3 distinct choices
@@TheBikeSauce The FS2.0 knob just turns it off or on - it has increments but they don't do anything! Specialized has acknowledged this and said it's because their customers prefer multiple detents... (but no actual fucntionality behinds them...)
@@WeirdNeville Can you elaborate? Is there any article which provide details on the non-functional increments for FS 2.0?
Do you think the Diverge carbon base just as good as the sport carbon?
For sure. Same frame and fork, FS 1.5, same wheels / tires. Only difference is GRX 2X group vs SRAM Apex 1X.
@@TheBikeSauce Thank you very much for the response. You answered my question. Exactly what I needed to know.
No grease needed for the spring?
I know the future shock 1.0 springs have grease on them, but the manual for the 1.5 didn’t call for it. The springs have a rubber boot on them and they seat centered within the future shock. I didn’t really see a need for it, but if it starts binding or making any noise, I might reconsider. Thx for the inquiry!
Great video! Love the shock BUT why the duck bill shaped plastic housing? It makes no sense and would look cleaner if it was just round. The duck bill on my Sirrus rubs against the frame and makes annoying squeaking noises. Anyone 3D printing their own?
Ha yea is interesting. It fits the shape of the frame though, so a round one might not look right either
I got the same problem!! The damn duck bill rubs against the frame and squeaks/creaks with any turn of the handlebars! Any solution? Should I just grind the duck bill down with a moto tool?? Gonna add some grease for now I guess where it rubs the paint.
It definitely shouldn’t be rubbing the frame
See problem here imgur.com/FacO5wp
LBS said their solution is to grind it down!! WTH?!
Where do you get the Height adjustment spacers?
You can find them in my online shop www.thebikesauce.com. Thx!
My bike came with some
Make sure to hang on to them!
@@TheBikeSauce it also has the 3mm service spanner to lock the tensioning bolts. Unfortunately my headset has come loose 3 times in 30km on very light trails. I need to investigate why and see if it's something I'm doing wrong. It just seems like a poor design though, tensioning the upper race at just 2 points. At the sides too, I'd expect it would be better to brace fore and aft. I hope I can resolve it as it's perfect otherwise, but an annoying flaw in an expensive bike IMO.
Yea mine never came with a tiny spanner. Don’t even know where to get one that small.
A lot of Specialized proprietary parts as it seems. Question is: how reliable is it and how long can anyone get spare parts in the future? It says Future Shock, right?
My gut feeling is that it would be similar to Cannondale Headshock: a pain in the a** to repair and getting spare parts in a couple of years. Maybe the Rockshox Rudy is the way to go.
Btw. Where is the damper in the Future Shock? None? A friction `damped pogo stick?
I’ll put up my long term thoughts on the FS. I have to agree with some events of your rant.
Do you know if the futureshock will fit on the sirrus x 2.0?
It may, but highly impractical as you’d need a different fork and some supporting hardware. Also, the future shock is not available for commercial purchase as far as I know. A better option for you might be the Redshift Sports Shocktop Stem, which is compatible with all standard threadless headset systems.
@@TheBikeSauce ok sweet ,thank you for the suggestion
I'm still not sure which section you can add spacers. Is it above the future shock rubber part or somewhere underneath it all? I would imagine if you add spacers then you can't screw the top lid back on?
The spacers will go on the bottom half of the FS cartridge with the larger diameter. You do have to remove the cartridge altogether, then add spacers, then the duck bill, then back into the fork. It won’t affect the top cap spacing if done correctly.
@@TheBikeSauce does that mean I have to pull the whole future shock out to remove the duck bill? Then the spacer would be above the duck bill and right under where the outside rubber is?
Yup, that’s it. Granted I haven’t actually messed with additional spacers in this way, but it should work just fine
@@TheBikeSauce I tried out a spacer but it was not wide enough. Do you know where I can purchase 30mm diameter spacers?
Interesting. Seems like to would be a standard hs spacer. Will try and investigate at some point
When will the spacers be back in stock?
Lookin like May 18
GREAT video. However, the Future Shock seems to be a solution looking for a problem. Unless a person has specific wrist, elbow, shoulder, or neck issue, then I don't see the value (I have a buddy with some issues and it's great for him!). However, if you don't have some sort of issue, then I am not a fan. I'd rather have that great frame with a regular undamped fork.
The 20mm of travel is a different experience than a supple frame alone. Comparing the Diverge with FS to say, the Ritchey Outback I test rode, the Diverge definitely has more front end compliance that no rigid frame can reproduce. My shoulders are far less fatigued after a ride on the Diverge when compared to other bikes. However, I agree that it's a lot of complexity to add the FS and not for everyone. I might suggest the Redshift stem on a rigid frame and call it a day.
Great video, had to take notes. I have a 2018 diverge with future shock 1.0 I presume, and am curious if it can be possible to upgrade to a 2.0 shock? Any ideas, thanks
Not sure about 1.0, but 1.5 and 2.0 seem to be the same dimensions. Either way, they aren’t available for retail so ordering one will be the hard oart
So conclusion, when they stop making that shock ur bike is ruined if in need of replacement?
Or check the description for how to DELETE the Future Shock properly.
Is it possible to swap the 1.5 with a 2.0?
The official answer from Specialized is no; there is no cross compatibility between 1.0, 1.5, and 2.0. I have, however, read about a successful swap from 1.0 to 2.0, so perhaps it's possible. The biggest issue is that you can't just buy the 2.0 cartridge; it's only available for warranty replacements through authorized dealers.
My understanding is that the 1.0 and the 1.5 are essentially the same and can be swapped. However the 2.0 with the hydraulic damping is a different size and therefore can't be swapped.
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Can you put future shock on Specialized sirrus x 2.0 2020. Please respond ASAP.
Specialized officially does not support the future shock as an upgrade on any bike. It may technically be possible, however, the future shock is not available for consumer purchase.
Looks very proprietary....you have to depend on Specialized for spares..
That’s how they get ya!
I wish there was a way to remove the whole shock...
It’s not for everyone I guess. It’s a good system, but removing it entirely, while possible, isn’t going to be ideal