Mysterious Ancient Artifact - DIY. Alternate history fans, please look away
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- One might wonder - how exactly stone vases were made in an era when even copper tools were considered a luxury? Olga Vdovina decided to try and perform a unique experiment - to produce a functional stone vessel while utilizing "primitive technologies" approach (with no metal tools whatsoever). All the work was done while using stone, hide, wood and bone materials only.
Attention! Alternative history experts and fans of "Ancient Alien" and "Ancient Machining" technologies - we suggest you keep away and take it easy.
Ancient Egyptian bird shaped vessel (produced circa 5100 years ago) was used as a prototype for this experiment. As far as we are aware, no one attempted to conduct it previously.
Original specimen: Limestone breccia vessel. Ancient Egypt, Nakada. Circa 3100 BC. British Museum (Reference: BM35306).
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Material used: Marble breccia. Dimensions: 20 x 20 x 20 cm. Sourced @ Krasnoyarsk, Russia
Duration: seven and a half months.
Work schedule: 5 days a week, 6-8 hours a day (including breaks). A good half of this time was spent on production/sharpening of tools, soaking/drying of cow hide as well as other prepwork.
Materials used:
- River sand: 10 l
- Gravel (5-7 mm): 10 handfuls
- Cow thigh and tibia bones = (used to produce) 2 saws + drill + 20 needles
- Sandstone: 7 pieces (size variation in the region from 15x9x7 cm to 5x3x0.5 cm).
- Quartzite + flint: 70 stones (various)
- Cow hide: 1 piece
- Wood: 2 maple trees
Produced by:
- All field work: sculptor Olga Vdovina.
- Camera work: Andrey Loichenko
- Script: Vitaliy Krauss / sciencevideolaboratory
- Editing: Valeriy Senmuth / senmuth
- Soundtrack: Valeriy Senmuth
- Consultant: Oleg Kruglyakov, Ivan Semyan
- Organization and financing: ANTROPOGENEZ.RU, 2019
- Translation and dubbing: Eduard Trofimov, 2020
- French subtitles: Irna Osmanovic
- Spanish subtitles: Luca ML
- German subtitles: Yury Erofeev
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Reconstruction of ancient technology. Ancient Egyptian bird shaped vessel (produced circa 5100 years ago) was used as a prototype for this experiment. As far as we are aware, no one attempted to conduct it previously.
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So each item in todays money would cost £12000.
@@thetruthseeker9407 item is not for sale ))
In *Britain* it's called _experimental archæology._ You're right to warn the _tin foil hat_ brigade to avoid this as they'd never understand it!
The problem is not that one can do that by hand. The problem is to produce them in volumes and with precision. A boutique car manufacturer can produce 5 unique sports cars, all manufactured by hand. So it can be done. The problem is the mass manufacturing of 100.000 cars a year.
Or 30.000 high precision stone vases with equal wall thickness or 2 million stones for a pyramid in a overseeable time.
@@DilbertMuc pecision of stones for a pyramid... www.wikiyours.com/Upload/Warticle/28/12495/15790/O/Блоки-египетской-пирамиды.jpg
I must say that Olga and the guys destroyed my delusions about ancient Egypt, for which I am very grateful.
Been sharing the videos, with enthusiasm, wherever and whenever I can.
All the love, and
Greetings from Serbia!
So all this was done without any metal...what a superb experiment - many congrats on completing this!
Thank you bro!
What was the 2 saws the drill and needles made from the .omfg
@@jayc3917 from the cow bone
That proof a concept by this woman is nonsense. Yes, you could mine an ore load with a spoon. Feasible? yes. Economical? no. Probable? certainly not.
Could you carve a 1200t megalith with a small stone ball and (infinite amounts) copper chisel? Feasible? yes. Economical? no. Probable? certainly not.
Using half a year to create a stone vase is bollocks. A society and economy doesn't work that way. Who would pay a half-year salary for a stone vase? The king and some dudes in his administration. Who bought the other 30.000 vases at half-year salary? Think about it...
@@DilbertMuc Lol why are you even here ? 😂 Where are you getting your facts from ? What makes you think any of these artifacts were sold on the street? That too for a short time? Typical armchair pessimist. Does no work and criticizes anyone who does actual work
'The difference between perseverance and obstinacy is that one comes from a strong will, and the other from a strong won't.'
Well done!
Did shakespeare utter that?
@@juanrocha6432 no. H.W. Beecher, abolishionist and preacher.
I've worked with stone for many years, this is amazing, Olga has immense dedication, patience and skills, I'm in love hehe. Great job.
Thank! Olga is pleased
Would you say her amazing immense dedication, patience, and skill are rare? Is so, her rare and unique skillet was only able to replicate 80% of the ancient specimen. Now find 100,000 people with this rare skillset out of a population of 3 million and have them build a pyramid. Nobody knows who or how they did it.
@@justmyopinion8395 - Rare today maybe because those skills are are mostly replaced by modern tooling and machining and the demand for such skills and items is low.
Perfectly reasonable to suggest that the skills are not exceptional or rare in ancient times. There was nobody making or watching youtube videos or nearly all the activities around today. So what were the people doing? ...Whatever the Pharaoh said.
I see no reason for 100,000 people to have such skills. As little as a few dozen people may have the skills needed and the rest of the labourers just did the grunt work.
None of the stones in the pyramids are shaped like this example and most stones in the Pyramids are not shaped more than a flat face on one side or a few sides. Also less than one percent of the stones are granite and they are internal. The limestone used is far softer and easier to work than this example.
beautiful to see the smile in her face while she DESTROYS all alien theories just using some stones lmao.
please continue with you amazing work, the world needs more people like you guys
Thank you! )
Now Olga is making a vase from diorite
@@ScientistsAgainstMyths what is the bird in this video made of?
@@Digital__rb marble breccia
Hahaha, the Humans is the Aliens!!! XD
"It's a fragile tool, but it works" *drops needle*🤣🤣🤣
This is what the Internet is supposed to be used for, opening minds and educating people about our rich and interesting past, not spreading bullshit about make believe civilizations and aliens...Don't have a lot of money but I sent $20 to Olga so we can see the Diorite vessel....Please don't stop what you' all are doing...love your channel.
Thank you! :-)
I agree the Ancient alien's people and bullshit alternative historians like Graham Hancock are only about making money from book sales and video sales to fools who are desperate to believe, no wonder we are burdened with religion, there are so many deluded fools out there...
@@jasonbyrne8487 Yep.
It's like the classic proverb. If you make a donation, but don't tell anyone, did you really make the donation?
Whilst I take your point about opening minds,there is far too much evidence that there were and still are massive areas of civilizations buried in the amazon ,that is simply true.The pyramids were constructed for a reason ,not as tombs but as something completely different.There is no doubt that there was a global civilization over 12000 years ago all over the planet,and no doubt they knew things we have forgotten today.Aliens not required.
Seriously had someone scoff at this and say “yeah but it’s not granite”. Kind of person that wouldn’t believe Egyptians built the pyramids unless someone built an exact replica of the pyramids using ancient tools.
Here you can see an atlantean woman carving stone with a laser beam! :D
Why else would she be wearing those big goggles? WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!
Oh, the ridicule! Simple mind's tool to obscure its inadequacies in face of the unknown!
Funny how Galileo faced the same ostracism, yet his name is remembered - not those who laughed at him.
Funny how Bretz faced met the same laughter, being called "catastrophist", only to be recognized and awarded Penrose medal for contribution in geology field decades later.
Funny how both father and son Alvarez faced the same resistance from geological community in the 80s when bringing forth the theory of meteorite causing dinosaur extinction - "So where's the crater?", academia asked with sarcasm. Ten years later Chicxulub crater was found, proving Alvarez (father now passed away) right, and all them nay-sayers wrong.
Before you laugh any idea off, just remember - gradualism used to be water-tight, too. Right until someone proved it wrong (Bretz). Same goes for geocentrism.
Everyone remembers who brought the truth to the light. Not who resisted it like life depended on it.
Keep an open mind. Question. Research.
@@AkarZaephyr a little different than claiming 'Humans couldn't possibly have done it so, -insert pseudoscience-...
Obviously they can as we see the work they did in ancient times. No lost civilization or high tech needed. Just good old ancient ingenuity.
@@swirvinbirds1971 Yes, I agree that explaining everything with aliens where more earthly explanations are still far more possible seems too far fetched.
I've seen examples of how a crew of a dozen people can transport really heavy stuff using nothing but the lever rule, and counter-intuitively, it was even easier to transport such heavy objects uphill. So there's definitely a lot of ancient ingenuity.
But there are still a few leftover ancient artifacts that seem to bear marks of tools that can't just be explained by anything else than advanced drilling technology. At least that's what a few people like Dunn or Foerster claim - I want to see those for myself before I form my own opinion.
@@AkarZaephyr let me ask you something... Do you think high tech tooling would just appear out of nowhere in the archeological record? Where are their mines to make these tools? Where are their oil wells? Why didn't they use resources needed to make industrialized tooling? Where is their technical progression in the archeological record?
You are an ancient Egyptian sculptress returned to life.
Thank you for all the time and effort you put into this.
First class demonstration. Thank you very much. 💖
You NEED to do one of the stone vases with the really thin walls. Mirror polish, extremely level and symmetrical, with handles and a pouring lip
Please provide evidence of this vase with really thin walls?
@@pranays it's on display in a museum, unchartedx had a clip and a picture showing it in his vase video. It's blue or blueish in color, with a hole in the side of it
But who is paying her for that job?
The thin walls mentioned by Petrie are of a open bowl of diorite (no 4716)
The one uncharted x shows is thin at the widest point, if you freeze frame the walls rapidly thicken
Though her diorite vase is thinner and more consistent than ancient examples.
awesome demonstration! Marble rates a 3 on the Mohs hardness scale, and is considered a “soft” stone - hence its common use in sculpture. It would be nice to see this done with a 7-8 on the Mohs scale to really show how easy it is.
Experiment in progress czcams.com/video/MEuQK9bSyvU/video.html
@@ScientistsAgainstMyths Stop mesleading people with this nonsense experiments.
Outstanding work for just one person, where the Ancients had generations to pass on there techniques and craft.
If anything this PROVES that the ANCIENTS HAD HIGH TECH TOOLS to work with. This is amazing craftmanship and i don´'t want to take away from that. But THIS TOOK HALF A YEAR working FULL TIME and she didn't produce ANY of the spectacular features these ancient vessels had, such as; working in MUCH, MUCH HARDER stones(marble/limestone 2~3 mohs scale, whilst granite/ basalt/quartz 6~7 and you even find ones out of corundum which is at 9!!), ONE TO TWO MILLIMETER thick edges, PERFECT symetry. Pre-dynastic people had as good if not better capabilities to manipulate stone than we do TODAY with all of our modern tools, which to me is still a fascinating mysterium
Fantastic! Why do people underestimate our ancestors abilities to produce artifacts? And the absolutely dogged determination, perhaps because we have become arrogant without and basis for that arrogance, we all stand on the shoulders of giants.
Jack, she isn’t debunking anything. She chooses things she can do and ignores the rest.
No one is arguing that the poorly hand made vases can't be reproduced she did a good job making a poorly made vase. It's the vases with high precision and flat planes measured in microns that can't be reproduced. Arrogance at the highest level in this channel
Or because she is working with a 3 hardness material and not a 7 or 8? As well, I didn't see the mention how many hours, broken, tools, materials, etc it used to make this hand sized vase. As well it wasn't as precise looking but darn good.
Now why was older egypt, 3000bc better tooled, better built, and higher quality, than anything after it?
@@temptemp9475 yeah because people that did it in the past shared knowledge passed from generation to generation. We have been working with stones long long before we even have existed as a specie 3.2 million years ago to be specific with our ancestor homo habilus. Does it take too much energy to stop being stupid ?
This information needs to get out there . I will do my share helping.
Thank you!
Very patient woman
I remember seeing Egyptian stone vessels in The Met as a teenager, and ever since then I've puzzled over how they were made. Thanks!
WOW!! Just simple WOW!!
I have to give her respect. She is a true stone artist. I love alt histories and mysteries, but we have to look at all sides, and possibilities.
I've only just come across this channel and I'm simply in awe of the dedication in these pieces. I wish I could give you a thumbs up for every minute spent grinding.
Wondeful job ! Patience, perseverance and skills all together at the highest level. Sad thing is you just got thousands of views. The others got millions each time they speak of aliens or ancient lost civilisations. What a pity
Thank you
It's because most people today were raised on science fiction and they desperately wish science fiction was true.
Wow… if this is 100 percent genuine which I do believe it is then your hard work is absolutely phenomenal and you deserve much more recognition, worldwide.
Brilliant!, How it was done for sure.
Just a few rocks, sand and bone. And the same smarts our ancient ancestors had. Thanks for all the work to show it!
Wellcome!
Wow! great work with precise planning, understanding and a lot of determination!!!
Truly incredible. This is an amazing project and I hope it helps people see the power of human diligence. Just because its hard doesn't mean aliens did it, it means it was REALLY HARD and thats all.
Thank you!
I want to share this video with those people saying these were made by aliens now.
Literally no one has ever said these thing were made by aliens. All of you clowns focus so much on that strawman argument because it's all you have.
7 1/2 months for one vase...😂😂😂
What everybody needs to remember while watching this channel is that these artifacts were created before the industrial revolution, and wasn't from a time when the manufacturing of goods was done in a factory and tools were mechanized so everything could be done in the blink of an eye, but rather from a time when technology was limited and people were just concerned with getting the job done at all.
A 7 month project... My god. Hats off. I have watched 3 full ads to this video to support you. Hope the small revenue helps. Stumbling accross your channel is amazing. I'm most impressed with the videos of this sculptor artist. People will be more impressed by such accurate work than crude work. Hats off
Thank you!
Can we please get her a Ted talk or some podcast time? Absolutely amazing, Olga, many thanks for spending the time to make such a contribution to beauty and historical knowledge.
So much work! This helps to show these artifacts are rare because they would be so expensive to make. I never doubted that humans can make it!
It is possible, but the issue arises when 40,000 intact granite and diorite vases alone are found in Djoser’s pyramid at Saqqura. Not to mention the many other cracked and damaged ones, along with mm thickness of the vessel’s walls. The time required using these primitive methods becomes an issue as well. I’m not saying aliens built them, but maybe people living in Egypt long before what is considered presently.
@@thomas6558 Some people who are rich like to prove to everyone how rich they are, even by doing things that don't make sense. That is a legitimate mystery, but it doesn't have anything to do with aliens or mysterious technology.
Impressed 💓💜🎈
Our ancestors deserve more credit....
this is legendary, what an amazing display of craftsmanship and determination, and disproving all the alien and other nonsense as one person, i truly admire you
The level of knowledge our ancestors had was amazing. Great way to preserve the skill and pass on the knowledge.
This is fantastic! You are doing a great service to humanity (and the legacy of ancient Egyptian craftsmen) by debunking the alien and lost civilisation claims. You are awesome!
Thank you!
with time anything can be achieved...now tell me they put 2.5million stones at 4min intervals, for 20yrs, non stop, no breaks, no errors, to build just the pyramid zero of the ramps, tools, waiting for issues like floods, disasters, famine...and more.
absolutely amazing stuff! really impressed by your adaptability with tools, you've inspired me a little and I want to try something like this too!
Beautiful work. True craftsmanship and dedication❤️
Facinating. I wonder how long a truly expert craftsman with specific to purpose designed tools (rather than creating from scratch) would take? Thank You for the learning opportunity.
The tools of the time they are producing would need to be made from scratch all the time. When working on stuff like granite, if you were to cut the side of one 2m x 2m block, you would loose, over 20lbs of copper to abrasion alone.
Beautiful work. This took the better part of a year to complete , imagine how long it took for pre-dynastic people to carve the 40,000+ diorite vases/bowls found beneath the pyramid of Djoser? Many with wall thicknesses of 2-3 millimeters. Patience and dedication were obviously highly esteemed characteristics.
Not carved...
Great demonstration, I don't know why people find it so hard to believe that humans made these things without power tools. Just like how waves can erode solid rock over time, humans can do the same with some basic hand tools.
Jesus. Well done for spending all that time on this. Thank you.
your work is really amazing, I learn alot from your vedios, now I understand who ancient people made that, please Keep it up
That is remarkable!
Thank you for actually doing this & proving the concept isn't one where aliens came down or 'secret' technology was lost throughout time.
This is fantastic!! I understand that Olga is currently making one out of diorite, i am looking forward to that! There are many ways to skin a cat. While this may not be exactly how the ancients did this, but im sure its close. The biggest mystery about these to me is the thinness of the walls of the ancient vessels. How thin are the walls of this vessel!? Bravo! Science at work!!
This thing is a doorstop compared to what the Egyptians made
@@mikev4621 Skill issue, not tool issue
@@Pottan23 a time issue more likely- months
I thought that was an amazing display of working in stone. Absolute respect to ya.
Thank you!
Thank you!! This is amazing!
Very nice demonstration.
She should wear a mask to stop the stone dust entering her lungs, though.
Wow, wow, wow, wow ... wow. Thank you. Thank you for showing us that our ancestors made great stuff that lasted because the great stuff they created took a great deal of time, effort, thinking, skill and patience. So wonderful what you have done .... good bye ancient aliens ... hello great great grandparents ...
Very impressive! Experimental archaeology at its best! Clearly No need for "lost high tech tool" to do some fine stone work! Keep it up 👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼👌🏼
I'm a "fan" of the ancient machining and have to say, what you did was brilliant. It proves that you can make similar or even identical quality of the ancient stone works like the ones in Egypt - given time and expertise. If you can prove that it's possible to do similar thing with diorite (which I noticed is currently in progress), and have it validated by experts that have examined the Egyptian stone works (such as Christopher Dunn), I will rest my case, perhaps even most "fans" (probably not the hardcore ones) of the ancient machining theory out there.
Thank you! We all were once fans of Santa Claus.
Regarding "expert that have examined the Egyptian stone works" Chris Dunn, I recommend this video: czcams.com/video/HQi4yql7Ysg/video.html
@@ScientistsAgainstMyths this is very interesting. I wonder if Chris Dunn has watched this video? It will be interesting to see what he has to say (or not) about it.
However, if I may suggest : when creating these debunking videos, it would probably better to not put statements or nuances that make fun or ridicule those that believe in other theories. I don't know what kind of rude or silly comments you've received from the fans of "pseudo/fringe scientists" but you can prove to be better than them. Also, not all believers of the "pseudoscience" are ignorant - me for example still looks at the fact presented and evaluate them, albeit not as good as the experts (which is why I rely on them to verify the facts), and given better facts, I would not hesitate to say that I was wrong. I certainly believe that Chris Dunn is also a man of reason, and when given your experimentation results, along with the undeniable facts, will not hesitate to say he was wrong. I believe I saw a video where he also said the same thing.
Anyways, keep up the good work!
@@cooljosh2307 i sent Mr. Dunn this article: antropogenez.ru/fileadmin/user_upload/7_seventh_of_Petrie_21_07_2020.pdf and he promised to respond. It was early January. The authors of the videos about "impossible spiral grooves" pretend that our video does not exist.
@@ScientistsAgainstMyths very nice. Sad about the "impossible spiral grooves" video authors though.
In Mother Russia, the aliens get abducted.....
sister, i believe that you are capable of anything. thank you.
Thank you!
Great video. it takes great perseverance to create a single item over 7 mouths but it is well worth for the understanding of practical techniques. do you think it would have taken as long to produce historically or do you think they would have been able to shorten the production process over time?
Thanks for the comment!
With a high level of skill and a reasonable division of labor in the workshop, time for production will be reduced several times I think
I think the worker would have chosen a rock that already looks close to shape before starting, saving time.
@@torporvasflam8670 perfect comment.
As a teenager my great uncle (now over a 100 years) was a carpenter.
The small broken shards of wood became small practice pieces for sculpting contours.
Larger slabs that couldn't become furniture, became spoons, bird cages and such.
The starting point of a piece can very well be refuse (waste) material from others.
Very interesting video , thanks !
Excellent example of how our ancestors were our equals. Lesson to learn is that homo sapiens had the same brain size as ours which means they were every bit as capable of solving problems using the resources they had.
I would love to see one of these sent to be measured accurately to see if all sides are within 1-3000th's of a inch, that would be the true test to see if it replicated those super precise vases found and there were thousands of them which makes it even crazier.
I knew there was a explanation 4 how they made these sculptures,,no hidden teck,just lots of work and 2 trees 🌳?, crazy,,nicely done
The patience, the meticulousness, the work ethic required to complete this has me absolutely in awe. A person who can do this can do anything. It's not like the original workers: they were working with the best tools available. She's choosing to ignore the fast way and voluntarily putting in 100X the amount of effort just to improve our archaeological knowledge. Incredible.
Videos such as this show whereby stone can be worked by hand using "primitive" tools. With that said. The fabrication of items - stone or otherwise - represented an entire economy in ancient Egypt. As an example. Egyptologists have unearthed underground caches over the years of mummified animals for votive offerings and as burial items - literally millions of them. Now imagine the number of workers devoted to the creation of such + those who supplied the raw materials = and it becomes apparent this was an industry.
So the Pharaohs employed a caste of artisans who in exchange for food and housing fabricated things for them be it tombs or stone artifacts or jewelry etc.. Similarly these things were being made for other than the Pharaohs so that these people were employed across Egypt. They need not worry about their next meal or where they lived as that was provided for. That allowed them to focus upon their work and improve their skills with each passing generation.
@@varyolla435 and if you've ever worked with stone, you know how much there is to learn about things like how hard you strike, the angle, which edges to use, the right kinds of stone, spotting flaws in the stone, etc. The ancient cutters had older cutters to tell and show them all the stuff she's had to learn from experience. So her accomplishment is all the more impressive.
We also don't realise how old these stone production centres were. We tend to think of these things as modern inventions. And then you think about the Lake Turkana blade 'factory' that was dated to 2+ million years old. All these creatures sitting there, creating thousands of stone tools over the generations... and they weren't even human yet. Who knows how old some of the techniques used were, how much they'd been refined by thousands of generations of expertise? I think we'd find that their skill, by the time you got to ancient Egypt was damned near superhuman. Like, they'd be able to do stuff with a simple round hammer that would never occur to us, but would be obvious to them. We lost a lot of that knowledge when we became a machine culture, which is why I think so many people find it hard to believe these things were done by normal humans using their hands and simple tools.
I think its a better job than the original.
wow! this artifact , you recreated totally. Even the amazing, thin walled ones, may be possible if more labour, time, and further refinement of technique is available. the eqyptians had hundreds of years on their hands, hundreds of people who were probably fed and taken care of by the state, so that they could devote themselves to such crafts. The rulers were powerful. their religion was so overwhelming, both factors drove their quest for excellence. they were very prosperous for long periods of time, and stable. all these helped. May be there are some aspects of their work we cannot understand, but those have to be identified only after all other explanations fail.
Impressive. Before that I was sure it wasn't possible. Thanks for expanding my mind.
Wellcome!
This is great but I see 2 problems with this: 1) it took 7 and a half months to produce one vase. That does not seem like a realistic effort that anyone would expend on one vase; but that’s debatable. 2) the vase is not hollowed it, it’s only bored to the size and shape of the drill being used. Is this how the ancient vases in question were- bored, not hollowed?
This is great to actually see something tried to be recreated, I'd really like to see the same done with the truely huge stone moving, not the 100 volunteers in a field with a 30ton block but the 1000ton stuff. Also while this is very commendable and clearly it was done, albeit with a more crude result I feel the fact it 7.5 months of full time work only goes to prove this is perhaps NOT the way it was done! This is where all the 'ancient lost tech' arguments come from, for all our certainty of how they did things no-one has really provided a good example. A good start for sure and worthy of more trials. Please keep the content coming.
She proved it can be done. Now imagine if she had knowledge passed generation to generation
You are amazing, Olga!
The algorithm needs to do its thing on this video right here.
This is really impressive and a voice of sanity among the alien and atlantean lunacies. However, the Egyptians of the Pyramid Age did have iron to work with, and that would have made their job even easier than the way you did it. Howard Vyse, around 1836, discovered an iron plate buried deep in the masonry of the Great Pyramid, whilst iron is mentioned with great frequency in the Pyramid Texts. Ra is said to hold the Earth in place with chains of iron. Again, German archaeologists, around 1910, discovered a series of iron tools from the 5th an 6th Dynasties. Finally, Herodotus mentioned the amount of iron used by the Pyramid builders. Having said all that, your work is excellent and you're helping to dispel the nonsense pushed by so many publishing houses these days.
Excellent work Bravo 👍
Unfortunately, I have only one like. Keep it going, folks!
Thank you.
Amazing Work! Finally light over this
EXCELLENT WORK!
These videos should be distributed to museums so they can run them near the exhibits on a loop.
Amazing work! Looks like the AlIeNs knew how to use stones x)
Impressive.
But this is marble breccia, a relatively soft and easy to carve material.
And yet you needed 7 1/2 months to do the job!
Show me how IV Dinasty egyptians could do even much, much complex works, using diorite or granite!
Experoment "diorite vase" coming soon. Do you want to back?
She started with a very large machine cut piece of stone, limited access to tools and limited experience. An original would have been made from a smaller piece of stone (less initial shaping) with tools made by tool-making experts and years and years of experience in stone shaping. There is every reason to think a production workshop could get the creation time down to days. There is a famous example from a reconstruction of a Bronze Age lake village in Switzerland where the archaeologist were trying grinding corn and concluded the process was so slow that the women of the village would have spent their time doing nothing else. Then two African women stopped by and asked to have a go because the tools were very similar to what they used back home and they ground an entire months supply of corn in one afternoon. Experience counts for a lot with ancient technology.
@@jonathonsmith8299
That's a theory which needs demonstration too. And don't forget that the walls of some flasks or artefacts are less than 0.4 inches and are made of diorite which is far war harder than marble (7-8 mohs scale)
@ Lorenzo
A Very good question indeed!
Very good video.
Thank you!
Very impressive indeed. Now do the "Schist Disk".....
My gosh!!!! Amazing to see that. If you have all the time of the world then you can do anything you want. Great video! 👍 please pass my congratulations to Olga who made this amazing piece of work!
One question though: did she manage to drill small holes for the eyes and the sides of the bird, on the final picture I do not see the holes compared to the original.
Very beautiful very interesting experiment.
Thanks!
Amazing work, these videos need to go viral.
I applaud this woman for making this incredibly difficult piece of art and it must have taken months of painstaking hard work but...i think it cannot be overlooked that predynastic vases and dishes were exceptionally precise in thier construction and this cannot be achieved by the methods displayed here, although this example here gives us some incredibly valuable context compared to predynastic technology welded by people unknown.
Love it. Great Job.
Now the Alien/Atlantean camp just says it takes too long. Cam't win :(
Same people claim no moon landing. Lots of documents and pictures from that.
@@TheMoneypresident One of them _proved_ to me that the earth is flat. Apparently ships sinking over the horizon and the sun setting are simply optical illusions. Thank the gods for *_Pterry!_*
@@TheMoneypresident whoa slow there dude, im a strong advocate for the ancient civ hypothesis and i do not believe in any of the other conspiracy theories. its just kinda unfortunate that a lot of the people that believe in ancient high tech also spread some rather questionable stuff. we had no proof that they could build these things until now (and a lot of other stuff aswell) so you cant really blame us for believing otherwise. im ready to change my views even though it means conceding that our planet is probably more boring than i thought.
I don't think it makes the world more boring at all. Truth is often stranger and more interesting than fiction. The real story of building the pyramids (etc.), if we could know it, is bound to be better than the pop-culture fairy tales that dominate the alt.history community. If you could just levitate polymerized blocks into place, then building a pyramid would be no big deal. We build huge structures that way and no one says anything. But if you could employ an entire society to grind rocks with bones - for generations - to make the pyramids - just, wow. That's truly beyond us. That's an ancient technology that we truly have lost and can't understand.
I mean, I believe humans made them and her demonstration is very good but the "it takes too long" is a valid thing to question. Even if skilled slaves worked on a single vase 24/7 or whatever and you manage to somehow cut the production time in half it's still a insane amount of work for one small vase when they could've just used clay. If it was one or two items I wouldn't question it so much, humans do put a lot of effort into making One Nice Thing all the time, but there's 40,000 of them along with giant buildings/statues. We're practical creatures, their common use of harder stones indicates a ease of working with it and if they knew how to work granite with ease (which is still difficult with our modern tools) why did they stop?
All these methods proposed are to be considered but there's a lot that doesn't add up to me about the current "answers" we have and I think ancient civilizations having some sort of lost skill/tool that's entirely unknown to us is a theory worthy of consideration too.
Еее !! Теперь и на английском языке!! Отлично!
О да , русский акцент )) так мило !
Вы, больше молодцы, уважение !!!
Thank you! )
Awesome amazing beautiful work. I love it. We have forgotten so much more than we know now, just look at how much better the antique looks just goes to show how awesome these ancients were
Amazing work and very well documented. This is proper experimental archeology. I attended a seminar on experimental archaeology and tried to manufacture a stone axe, which was fun, but this is on a completely different level.
That’s smart. Good “science”
Awesome work and an excellent video series! Hope to see more of that kind in the future.
Thank you!
This is really awesome to see!!! Very good work on the drill and materials used.
wow that is certainly very interesting. this has never been done since then, im impressed. although i kinda doubt that this would be the process to produce several thousand of these that are found throughout giza. i mean half a year for one? this really begs the question: why not use ceramic vases instead? which brings me to my next point (which you obviously try to tackle next) and that is the vases. some are not even a centimeter thick and out of basalt/granite/diorite. will be very interesting to what degree you can reproduce this.
you will certainly attract a lot of viewers if you continue your journey. you might be doing science a bigger job than any historian arguably has ever before.
@De Gabe
But why you guys don't want to consider that used tools might have evolved overtime too? Why always same tools??? That not logical.
> why not use ceramic vases instead?
They used ceramic, of course. Those stone vases would be a luxury item, like a luxury car in our days - most people drive around in cheap cars, yet rich and powerful have them...
They found some 30.000 vases just around Giza. Did they really work 40h/week for 8 months just for one?
The problem is not that this Russian craftswoman was able to create an item similar to the ancient ones. The problem is the precision. They laser-measured the Diorite or Basalt vases and found that the thickness of the thin walls was absolutely equal down to several microns, which is impossible by hand. So they had to use some machine, even a primitive one, but one with very high precision and certainly made from metal. Of course, during the millenia they vanished due to the high value of metal.
@@DilbertMuc Why do you think a person in ancient times will not do hard work in exchange for food and protection?
You need to give some prooflinks for that statement. Who did measure them, how did they measure, etc. Otherwise it is just a hearsay.
@@Straga_Severa see youtube unchartedX or ancient architects or websites of Dr. Chris Dunn or Prof. Robert Schoch
Bravo......Very well done. Nothing beats intelligence and skills.
That’s wild. Thanks for doing it.
I don't quite get how the cavity was made. I understand how you drill a hole, but to make the cavity walls wider you would need a drill bit wider than the hole. How was this done exactly?
...not sure 100% I followed what she said...and not sure I'll be able to explain it in text...but let's try. She put a mixture in the hole of larger shards, and finer sand. When the drill turns it will snag on the larger shards and spin them causing them to scrape the inside away more.
@@AveragePicker Oh, it makes sense, thx
Outstanding!!! This is a wonderful way to show how our ancestors created fantastic things without the help of aliens ect!!! Thank You!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
It makes me laugh that Ancient Alien alternate historians brag about making their own research and then do not actually do any research on the practical aspects of carving stones in anceint times and say that "it was aliens or a super advanced technology".
Good Job to everyone! You are a good example of researchers!
I’m willing to bet the original bird image started with a stone that found that was much closer in shape to a bird than a 300mm cube, still, you are an amazing scientist and artist!
In these brilliant and laborious demonstrations you not only clearly and irrefutably illustrate our ancestors were every bit as smart as us, you also clearly illustrate the manner in which society developed, for example the guild system and its derivations; most excellent work!
An amazing video, beautiful craftsmanship and creative tooling.
All you proved was that you are an alien/atlantean/bigfoot with manic rocks.
Only one of the ancients can use those magic rocks!!
Seriously, EXCELLENT work. Debunking the clowns is hard work!!
Congratulations, fantastic and enlightening work.