Shia LaBeouf talks about making amends for the rest of his life with Jon Bernthal
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2022
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Please join me for a conversation with my friend Shia. We discuss guilt, shame, making amends, friendship and so much more. I ask you come with open eyes and an open heart. Big love ya'll.
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Shia is always captivating when telling stories, he doesn’t skip a beat when talking, but I love the fact that Jon is also doing a phenomenal job at allowing him to tell his story without interrupting. Actively listening and asking questions at the right moment. They’re both so engaged with each other that it’s beautiful.
I'm always waiting for him to relax in the moment and just smile.. when the heart gets damaged it's a long road back to sanity but the guy who comes back is going to be the best version of you.
Great story teller and so captivating when speaking. Very few people have that ability to keep you engaged. Jon is an incredible listener and supporter in the right ways for Shia. We know Shia will come back from this and go on to be a future Daniel Day Lewis/Tom Hanks for our generation.
@@theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439 what you said resonates with me. I feel Shia’s pain and relate to a lot of the things he was saying. It's good to see these conversations happen out in the open, because it allows you to see how people can make mistakes, but it's ultimately up to you to do the work to climb back from your rock bottom.
@@frankechevarria4189 I want to learn how to actively listen like Jon. I hope we do see Shia get a chance to fully be appreciated for his talents. I've been a fan of his since Even Stevens 🙏🏾
@@frankechevarria4189 personally Ithink there is a little too much victimhood going on there. american therapies are really not my thing. the whole group setting is basically flawed.
he should try something like Scott Kiloby's 'unfindable inquiries' and be done with the whole puppet show
Imagine having a friend like Jon Bernthal. What a legend.
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Tell Max I referred you to him for a business investment that will change your financial life...
One or some of your friends are legends, you just don't know it yet. You don't know how lucky you are right now till you hit "Rock Bottom" Just don't go there, next time your with all your friends just sit back and think. Who's my legend? And in the same thought think, am I his or her legend?
@@jthewino1 I am that legend to all my friends. Unfortunately none of them are for me. Starting to think I just need new friends. Or none at all
He's the coolest actor to me.
@@tylerdurden5122 Just because you are that legend to your friends doesn't mean you abandon them. Do not look down on others. Be humble. Remember your roots. If you are such a legend, show them and prove it to yourself that you are one and the one matters will follow suit.
He had me at "wiggle room". i know exactly what he's talking about. Our inner child loves playing with boundaries. It's self-deception at best. Cheers to Shia. He's wide awake now.
Any addict knows exactly what he meant. Wiggle room. Room to maneuver. Room to get out. Room to get away with it.
100%. You know what wiggle
Room means if you’re an addict
@@ReggyRy can you explain to someone who's not an addict
@@xazim94x think someone summed it up in the replies already lol.
@@xazim94xbasically there's always an excuse/way to have another drink/hit. Every slip/toke can be rationalized and slipped under the rug 99% of the time. There's some wiggle room, until there's not.
“My purpose now is to be patient” 💯💯💯 absolutely spot on. Life is just a game of patience and timing
Damn... time to go hunting and really put it into practice. 👌
This was actually amazing! No matter how much you fuck up, you are still a human. Never forget that.
so true!! there's always a way out!!
And most often, it is when we mess it up, seemingly beyond repair, that we can discover who we truly are... often the best parts... though only with self awareness and humility in spades. Pride always comes before the fall.
Uhm... pardon?
What does being human matter?
You God Damn right! There is always redemption!
This is exactly how conversations should go. I completely respect Jon for just listening to Shia's story. Not many people have the capacity to simply listen without interjecting.
I’m really glad I watched this one as opposed to just listening. Because you can see how intrigued he was and respectfully just letting him tell his story. That was very cool to see
yeah its kinda crazy cause most people would go like bro bro just relax before letting them speak
Except not stopping the agreement sounds which distracted from hearing the story.
@@depositionsandstuff7465 that’s how conversations should go. If you don’t give those affirmations that you’re listening it messes with the person talking subconsciously. It’s all baked in our dna
When he heard about the knife on the girls throat he really got tested, you could see it in his eyes. But Jon's a real one and handled it like a friend.
Shout out to Jon Bernthal for being a real homie. Not many of us are lucky enough to have someone to just listen a be a real friend. This is what helps you grow.
Yea Bernthal seems like a great listener n friend
"There's certain people who still don't want to talk and I understand that." This statement shows his progress. We forget sometimes that our past is still someone's present. We can't change the way they think about us based on words, we do it by taking positive action and not letting anything slow us down. Congrats to anyone who has 1 minute of recovery. It is worth it, you are worth it. You will not get sober on your own, you will not stay sober on your own.
Amen Preach Jay!
Jay my man, from a 6y sober swedish dude - incredibly well-written. I agree wholeheartedly and will take this to heart in wording the importance of SHOWING UP and leaving ego at the gd door.
We all need help at some point in our lives, but no one can fix your life for you, you have have to own your own crap.
You may fool everyone else around you, but you cant lie to yourself, the veil of deception burns to a crisp when you are honest with yourself.
Even 1minute of recovery is 1 minute of clarity, 1 minute of insight, 1 minute of life in honesty & that begins to make it a good life.
Takes guts to open up like that and by doing so he's probably helping a lot of people to be honest with themselves. Love Shia!
Truth bud!
He's a psycho who can't control himself. Hardly someone worthy of love.
It’s much easier to do once the person heals their unhealed wounds.
NGL, this episode made me cry.
Shia’s story makes my heart hurt. I’m happy we haven’t lost him.
Disappointed. He is a psycho TDS fool.
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ shut your mouth
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Allah akhbar praise to Allah god almighty and jesus / Isa is just one of prophet of Allah
Let’s not start that now.
@@RiPnShtUp ....haha, yeah exactly, I like your comment...." Shia’s story makes my heart hurt. I’m happy we haven’t lost him". It's simple and from your heart, it's straight to the point. It's amazing how this other lot feel the need to stick their noses in and interfere in everybody else's business with their personal beliefs without being asked.
Basically he was depressed until he took responsibility for his own actions. I went through the same epiphany when I was lost in depression. I blamed every one but me. Eventually you have to focus on repairing yourself. The first step for me was admitting my part.
Thank for watching you have been selected among my lucky winners.🎁🎁🎁 Dm to claim 🔝🔝👆👆
He cleaned his room ❤
"Basically" aint that simple mf. Dont downplay shit.
Boy I bet a bunch of people wish that they could just wish depression away
@@SolomonKane71 took me 10 years
I remember him from being a child actor and evolving into a fine actor. Now seeing him as an evolved man. Proud of you Shia. Glad we did not lose you into oblivion.
Even Stevens.. Holes.. good times.
Shia basically talked for 18 minutes straight. Amazing. I hope he finds peace on his journey.
He has made tremendous progress.on his journey. as he continues, he will drop the profanities, as well, with the peer age people who might also curse. . It's a process. Praying for him.
We going to pretend like he didn’t say he put a knife to some girls throat at the end of the vid….
@@tommymc7535 when he was 19 bud
@@tommymc7535 - Yes, I see your point, but ... we are all wretched sinners, some of us have done worse things than others, and some of us have had nastier lives growing up than others, etc. But those w the most to repent make the biggest turn around, and it is said that when this happens to such people the multitude of angels in heaven rejoice that much more gloriously. . Deo gratias!
@@tommymc7535 she raped him. But good thing he didn’t do anything far more worst.
Shia LaBeouf is such a great story teller. Such a master at articulating his thoughts into sentences. It's insane.
I agree, he tells his stories in such an accessible and engaging way. Kind of inspiring too, makes you think of your everyday speech patterns and so on.
What?
I figure it's part of the acting craft, your whole job as an actor consists of reading situations and articulating them through words and actions. He is good at doing readings or retelling past events, requires good memory
That is a gift, listenin to him speak you see he’s poetic in his emotional expression
Almost like he’s an actor
I needed this. THANK YOU. July 5,2017 is my sober date. I don't celebrate it and I get angry when my wife or friends bring it up. They show me all this excitement and love for something I'm so ashamed about. I lost it all. 6 yr Prison stint in 06, lost my 1st wife, lost my 3 kids and it still wasn't enough to make me quit. It took a Dr telling me I had Advanced Stage 4 Cirrhosis. Now 5 yrs clean I struggle daily with the guilt, the shame and the torture. This here is 2 real dudes opening up about the crap we scared to confront. Thank you.
Not 5 years clean 5 years since u changed
RESPECT!
All the best brother, keep going
I get it, they are just trying to show you there support, which im sure you already know. Keep fighting the great fight.
@@TheShanClark it will fade away and something else will take its place. But for me, Im grateful for the ego death i have experienced. All the shame, guilt and hate made me realize so much about myself and life. You’ll need some time my friend ❤️
Love what you're doing, Jon. As a woman who has been in abusive relationships, verbally, physically, and sexually assaulted throughout the years. I have respect for men who are accountable and talk about it.
Yep, power to you. I cant stand this idea that subjects are distasteful & we should just know they're bad & leave it at that. To every story there's not a solid block of colour there're many shades that create those pictures of our lives.
Good on you for never letting your candle go out & having the inner fortitude to accept yourself & not eat self pity every day. We can taste that stuff, it makes sense to do that but we only revictimise ourselves when we allow abusive events we've experienced to be the sum of us. They aren't.
Peace.
He was on Rogan a few months ago and it really made me respect him as a person. Almost killed a man out of fear and of course being a young dumb man then seeing his dreams come true. Jon is a legit badass that embraced humility and embarrassment then rose above it.
Shia LaBeouf's ability to tell a story is amazing. He's making me feel for him, rethink my own life and also laugh all at the same time. "You go look for a dog".
Was any of it actually interesting, He didn't even let Jon laugh at the joke. He just kept plowing ahead.
@@billted3323 This isnt some movie script, this isnt to entertain you. This is Shia sharing his near suicide and how hes climbing out of that dark place to better his life. If all youre worried about is Jon not being able to laugh at a semi-joke, then youre watching this without a clue of what its intent is.
@@BamaTidefan3 Sharing? I don't think Shia knew there was another person in the room.
Yeah its cool and a great story. I just hope its not another character.
He’s a great actor…
This was incredibly profound. Props to Jon for kind of staying out of the way and just letting him go.
i thought the same thing, great listener.
I bet money that Shia will mess up bad from what he said. He don't need anger management? Dude yeah right, thats where he is so wrong. Anger management is the key to his freedom, dude, when he is alone in a cold ass jail cell for 14 months wanting to die but can't figure how to do it,, all from not controlling his anger, then he will understand wiggle room. Dude, go to as much conseling as you can! He can't even say sponsor, he says my dude, he doesn't want sobriety he wants somebody to save him but dude they are not going to be able to when your alone in your addiction, go to a meeting, when no meeting exist and he's gonna fly into a stupid nightmare.
Shia wounldn't stop talking . I like conversations not speeches
@@set65 I agree with most he said and please don’t think I’m arguing with you or anything like just different view I guess but I’ve been in recovery now a little over 2 years to be exact 25 months and 13 days but anyway
I drank due to a lot of reasons but at the end it was me it was my choice to completely give in to my anger and depression and drink more and more
I go to meetings
I don’t go to anger management which I probably should cause that is still tough for me atm lol
I feel as if he is in the best spot of his life since everything started to slide
Just like him every women I dated I was like she is a queen I’m madly in love never have to date again lol
And just like how even you pointed out about sponsor being called my dude
I do that because I won’t lie it’s still uncomfortable for me to talk about my drinking and drug use
But I do have a sponsor and when I refer to him I say my big brother as that’s what he is to me
Once again I’m not being a dick so please don’t think I am
I don’t feel as if he will fuck up bad atm but that will come down to him and how bad he wants it cause it took me 5 years of in and out of soberity before I finally said I give up and I just can’t cause the next run may not have a return ticket
@@yourfriendlynerd1914 I think if someone suggests to a person they need an anger class, the certificate is usually 8 to 12 classes, it's not tha long, then they are making a big mistake by not going. Atleast Shia is seeing the light in some way. Anger management was a class that enlightened me to everything that had gone wrong in my life. For years I didn't know why things had happened the way they did. Then when I saw that it was my anger that had caused so many bad situations I was able to stop being resentful and stop bad things from happening again. I avoided situations that would have taken me right back to where I was if I had let my anger slide into a blowup. Now that I have more control I am building a way better me. I think that depression is something different than the 12 steps can better deal with especially step 3,4,6,and 8
I love Shia Labeouf's honesty, he's just real in every way, glad he's doing good!
This is so beautiful to see. Such a relief. I just pray for continued healing and growth for this man. I watched him struggle for years, and it hurt, because I could see that he was worth so much more. He had so much more inside of him than what he had allowed himself to be reduced to. I hope that he continues to move forward and I wish him nothing but the best.
Love seeing men setting an example of being vulnerable, admitting mistakes, and cultivating change. This is desperately needed this day and age.
You mean men getting 500 chances after displaying violent criminal behavior and then being lauded for it
I'm with you, but I would swap the word "men" for "people". I have seen lots of entitled (some self entitled) women pulling some BS cr@p. Egotism is the trend these days, and when you're not self destructing you're nuking other people.
@@cosmegonzalez How many of these women were abusers and rapists?
Yeah, nothing like a bunch of emotional, vulnerable men 🙄
@@lavinder11 Are you limiting entitlement and egotism to rapists and abusers? yes, some of those are women, and I WOULD ASSUME YOU WOULD HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
Because I am curious: Is it entitlement or men that you despise?
This conversation was moving. Hope y’all know, this just helped a bunch of people needing to hear this right now.
Great to hear from people that have some form of success, in their experience went through some form of hell and it wasnt all luck, makes it all more grounded, gives me faith
@Mazes S A I watched all Bishop Barron’s interview. What do you find so different?
@Mazes S A such a stupid and immature thing to say. Shia is doing the best he can, and Karma doesn't work that way. We all make mistakes. Including you, sitting behind your computer .
Be nice to watch the whole thing without paying more money to these rich actors tho:/ so real
@Mazes S A Dude, the levels you're reaching at is beyond this world. Continue reaching that much and you'll reach the middle of the Milky Way.
So glad to see Shia in a good place. I've vAlways loved him as an actor, he's always had so much passion in what he does I'm really glad he's doing better
Amazing too see how far he's come, loved his movies but didn't know he was struggling. As an adult now makes me realize, EVERYONE struggles not matter your status. We're human, no one's invincible and it's okay to ask for help. "I can't call it"
Still struggling with that myself...needed this. Big ups Shia and Jon 💯
Jon is the best friend you can have. He will lecture you on your own mistakes without putting yourself down
*YOU down
I actually have the same personality type as Jon, so I guess you could say that I’m the best friend people could have 🤷🏽♂️
With putting you down
I am not going to change this little grammar mistake, because I can see that it pisses you off too much
I agree, man. Should have a lot more people like that in the world
I have such respect for Jon's listening skills, really giving someone a chance to explain their experience also while being supportive of the topic.
His face, specifically eyes, tell you he's really attentive and present.
I agree but there were parts where he just kept saying mm hmm mm hmm mm hmm over and over again and to me it was awkward. Just sitting there and listening is enough
Egomaniacs need to hear that little bit of feedback to know you are absorbing their stream of bullshit
I was going to say the same thing Bro! I was wondering if anyone notice this special skill so rare these days! Love from Poland Brother!💚
@@loganprince3696 not to mention interrupt, as well finish Shia's sentences.
this is so beautiful to hear.All the best to Shia in his recovery. I am in recovery from a lot of things and it all comes together one day at a time. 💓
It’s great to see chats like this. Jon is such a good interviewer. He knows when to talk and when to sit quietly. And to hear Shia speak candidly about his life is so refreshing. Seems like he’s come full circle, and is still growing and willing to better himself. Wish him all the best 🙏🏼
"I had no absence in my life" - ironically that is the reason I found this interview. Thank you for sharing this tender moment of vulnerability. I feel like I could listen to this and read the comments section over and over and get many things out of it. There's a lot of people who needed to hear this, myself included.
Same brother, cheers and much love from NC. 🙏🏼🇺🇸🙏🏼
Me to brotha
Fka twigs is pretty hot. But not worth all this.
I appreciate Shia for opening up about his life, I feel like a lot of people can relate and needed to hear this
Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It’s an important step most skip. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is Lord.
@@jamesmayle3787 This is about learning to appreciate and accept who you are as much as anything else. This is about relying on ones self to explore inner truth. I feel like self exploration is more important perhaps than just.. giving into "Jesus Christ" and "God" This sort of seems counter productive for Shia's personal issues. Just my two cents.
Jesus got nothing to do with my life lmaoooooo
2 women have come out to say he physically abused them . He LIED about the sexual abuse. Who the fuck relates to this? He will pay a large sum. Him admitting it here is not admission but clever word play to avoid a larger sum to pay
@@mco5634 Yea, a lot of people do a lot of really fucked up shit. It sucks and though admitting to it is not redemption or expecting forgiveness, at least he's admitting to it and exploring options to move forward with his life. You don't ever have to get over it personally, and if this instance is enough for you to dislike him forever, so be it.
Amazing! So glad I tuned in. I have over 11 years in recovery and I can relate to a lot of what was shared.
Awesome interview Jon👏🏼👏🏼
Loved every part of it.. loving the change in Shia for sure. God bless this Channel! ✝️
loved the intensity of this conversation. Thank you Jon for being that actively perfect listener, and thank you Shia for sharing all this true life with us.
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Shia is a bad fucking person. Doesn't take much for fans to be fooled-- they never wanted to admit he had any flaws in the first place. I'm not fooled. This is an abuser.
Love it! Our society has and is moving towards a more open, honest, real sense of self and what’s important to do with our short time here on Earth.
I hope you dip your nuts in hot coffee ☕️
our society is moving towards more supply drops being opened
Well hopefully he stops beating his partners. Some things are so heinous, they shouldn’t be forgiven.
What world are you living in? Spend the day on CZcams watching stores get looted and tell me how our society is.
Fury great movie great actors
What an amazing conversation... Jon, this is definitively your calling...keep up the great work, and I am amazed at the honestly Shai showed. It can be difficult to talk about your failures and fuck ups...ask anyone who has been to any meetings... it is impressive how he speaks about his thoughts... he can be a great motivation for people...hope this video becomes a viral motivation
I really needed to watch this. Thank so much for the upload. I can and will take so much from this moving forward.
This is one of the best conversations on a podcast I have heard for a long long time. So real and honest. No judgement from Jon. Just listening and being present with Shia. I love it.
Yeah. No real interruptions- just useful, well placed additions. I wish that other interviewers would follow suit.
Shia tends to just go and go when he talks, I enjoy it and I'm glad Jon was able to just listen and take it all in. Shia has lived a lot of lives happy he is still with us.
Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It’s an important step most skip. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is Lord.
There is something so raw and real about Shia. He is not a bad person. He made bad choices. I’m so proud to see he was ‘spiritually touched” His journey will be amazing!!
He confirmed he abused his girlfriend and allegedly he would shoot stary dogs to get into role.
i disagree. he did make bad decisions, but he was also a bad person. maybe he's turning into a 'good person' now, but there are so many stories and events of him being a little shit that you can't look at who he was, during the past decade at least, and say he was 'good'.
@@whitedevil2 there’s no such thing as a good person or a bad person. We are all good and bad.
@@Dustomatic maybe, but he was definitely more bad than good for a while. you ever catch the clip of when he got arrested? it's the cop's body camera and about a half hour of him spewing the most toxic insults you could imagine.
@@Dustomatic that's an awfully broad blanket statement, though. I'd say there are some truly evil people out there... trust.
Wow. Very compelling and informative for those of us that struggle with addiction. Loved Shia's story and his experiences with getting to the rooms. I identify with alot that he shared. Thank you Jon for putting this together🙏
Not even funny how this drops literally as I’m finding myself in need of help. This has to be some Devine intervention type shit. Crazy how motivating it is to hear someone like Shia going to get help and meaning it
youre not alone brother
I pray you find the Lord and His grace, peace, and love my friend. Earnestly seek Him and you will find Him. There is NOTHING better. God bless. Ephesians 3:20 ✝️
That's because most of us are always in need of some sort of help.
3 months sober here. It definitely is inspirational even if it is Hollywood. Hope We all find what we’re looking for.
Seek the Lord God Jesus Christ. Don’t look at all of the man made institutions that monetized religion. there is no man or place that you have to go through to connect with the Savior.
In 2004 I found out I had aggressive Breast Cancer and was told I had 2 years at the most to live. I promised the Lord I wouldn't ever drink again, kept that promise and I'm still here. I have always had a soft spot for Shia. I'm so happy to have found your video to hear that he is finally finding happiness and getting sober.
congrats
You think God spared you cause you decided not to drink?
As a man, as a Vet I watched this with tears in my eyes. I have never had an interview resonate and touch me so deeply. Our demons are very similar and being at a place in my life where I'm on E I needed to hear this, FROM HIM. I've watched this a few times and I cry more and more each time. Wish I had his clarity to get the help I need. It hurts to constantly feel like your losing, everyday. The pain never seems to get better.
Describe the pain. Who/what is hurting you?
You?
If so - what good does it do you to suffer it?
Finding/developing an outlet - is what artists do.
If pride is in the way from letting go - maybe you just need to carry the pain until you are sure - ready to be humble and ask for the power/means to live/cope with the pain you can't command or push away.
Describe the pain - is it real enough yet?
When you are ready to let go - you'll forgive - you, me, us them, him...yeah even her.
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I know me - I didn't surrender until I had become a comedic tragedy :)
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ectacy is a hole my friend, i’ve met people who no longer feel happiness unless they on it, i’m in my own home as well, I’ll be praying for u my g
@bundapunisha1912 we gota make it through. I have too many people that care about and depend on me and I can't fail for them.
I’ve been praying for Shia for a long time. I have always known he was hurting. I’m so happy for him.
That was as real as it gets… thank you for sharing this Jon & Shia
When Shia went off saying he had wiggle room. Hes comes to realize hes been wildin and needs to change and the people hes surrounded himself with may not have his best interest at heart. I think hes good now. Those "YES" men will be your downfall on god
When will you do a video on this @Popcornedplanet
@@Scantronacon %1000 agree
The level of respect Jon has for Shia as he’s telling this story is really cool to see. He’s so engaged and understands the level of vulnerability Shia continues to give off and he just stays locked in. No judgement, no snarky little smile here and there. He makes Shia feel comfortable enough that he can talk to him about the dark rooms in his life without feeling like a freak or weirdo. Much respect to Jon. Shia, it’s always a pleasure to hear you tell stories like this.
Reacting is apart of acting. That's his job..........
"He’s so engaged and understands the level of vulnerability" LMFAO
I truly enjoy both of them as actors & people, but the reason he’s like that is because they are both J’s. I wish that us W’s would have that much love and respect for each other no matter the circumstance
@@Idolikethis you should take some communication classes. There's a lot to learn about the wonder of humans and how we socialize. It has nothing to do with being an actor.
@@Idolikethis isn’t it your nap time?
@@Idolikethis you'd kissed your mother with that mouth?
I think you are on to something here. I can appreciate these deep conversations about growth that come purely from the heart. Keep doing this and I'll always be a fan.
Thank you Jon & Shia, 1st honest, no BS interview EVER. Only kindness, listening, being there no matter what can help, save a persons life. Jon this podcast is inspiring, uplifting, full of lo e & hope. Shia god bless u. U are loved, no one is perfect, we heal with love & kindness not hate. 💞
As a health executive leading counselling services, this is one of the best interviews of personal trauma I have ever heard period and the way Jon has created a very safe listening environment whereby the interviewee's dignity is protected and upheld and Jon is showing other podcast host how to do this where the guest doesn’t feel exploited. Shia's health journey will save many lives to come and Jon's kind and safe approach will encourage more honest dialogue. Truly phenomenal.
No stories to tell to learn something in your life😄
I've been raped, robbed, set up by life long best friends, put on high doses of meds that I was allergic too and hallucinated for months, became agoraphobic and would shake and cry just trying to leave my bed to go to the bathroom. I didn't want to die but I couldn't live with my mind not being on my side and I decided to give living a shot. Took more than a year to feel normal after throwing out the prescribed meds that everyone kept telling me to take. 10 years of therapy and I'll need to work that shit out for the rest of my life...but...its cool. Things get better. Just keep working, keep living. Life will end itself one day. No need to rush it.
Your videos have brought alot of people happiness man
I can relate to the meds part big time.
I hope the rest of you life is better bruh. The fact that you stated I is a success in itself.
You weren't raped, don't lie!
Lol didnt read. Dear diary.
Appreciating your interviews; keeping it real. 👊
This is a great example of not turning your back on someone who’s made some mistakes & has fucked up a few times . Everyone needs support & help to be better !
I gotta say, Jon's already proved himself to be a great interviewer because of how he listens. He was dialed in for Shia's entire story - reminds me of how Sean Evans on Hot Ones who I think is one of the best in the business.
Every time I see an interview with Shia LaBeouf I'm hopeful that he finds his way. He reminds me of some many friends I've know of these years who have good intentions and a heart but struggle to find a way to recover.
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Tell Max I referred you to him for a business investment that will change your financial life...
He allegedly bragged about shooting stray dogs to prepare himself for a movie role… doesn’t sound like he has a heart and good intentions
@@jatrefz Neither do you then, self righteous projecting hypocrite.
On top of the fact that he is an abusive scumbag
@@jatrefz ever heard of coyote hunting?
Been a fan of yours with The Walking Dead and The Punisher (best ever), but your content here brings my respect for your talent to a new level. This truly made me self reflect.
Wow this is one of the most powerfully honest podcasts I've heard. Absolutely down to earth and heart felt. I wish nothing but the best for this man.
Same. God bless him.
The wiggle room was very real for me. I’m 28 days sober from alcohol and 4 years 2 months 16 days off other drugs. I always had wiggle room. Always a little trick up my sleeve. This month has humbled me. Thanks Shia. Always been in your corner
The day you stop counting will be years after you matured away from those vices.
Good you needed to be humbled
Just take it one day at a time my man.
Well done. I’m in the depths of anorexia going on 37 years. You’ve got this ❤️❤️
Same. Me and my ex girlfruend now. She always let me off the hook for bad behavior. Now that shes dumped me its made me SEROIOUSLY look at myself and realIe what a total fuck up I am.
I root for this guy. He expresses solid emotional thought processes. I hope to see him keep moving onward and upward. It's difficult to be real, but keep living it.
Addicts relapse 99.9 percent of the time.
every man that knows the value of a hug or a kiss knows the potential of the inverse. the the shadow is always just as powerful.
You guys get tricked by narcissist so easily. You’re rooting for a man who’s playing the game - and creating his own “wiggle room”
He is saying anything and you are believing anything
@@rmmm6725 that sounds like a super official statistic
I love the interview style, because you allowed him to be completely open without judgment. I truly believe we must support and build up one other as a community. Hurt people hurt people. One must heal the hurt with total humility and honesty which he gave: no facade, just raw. We all need help and we all need each other. I am my brother's and sister's keeper. Blessings to everyone watching this, because the cycle of abuse has to stop. Love, protect and elevate your children, spouses, friends, neighbors, associates, acquaintances and strangers...everyone, because you get what you put out into the universe.
I'll be honest I seriously needed to hear this because I've been going through alot of shit in my life and alot of people keep telling me that I just need to let go of the past but I never knew how because most of it was becauseof my ex wife. After hearing this I think I now know what I need to do to get over the past and move forward with my life.
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Your past is written into your nervous system. Mind wants to drop it all, but the body doesn't lie. Letting go of the past is what the mind tries to do, but the body holds on. Healing has to do with body, mind, and heart. There is no bypassing via mind tricks, moments of tectonic-shifting insight, weekly yoga, breathwork, etc. Healing comes with a willingness to sit with yourself in stillness and silence and hold whatever arises in you with kindness and compassion. Healing comes with a willingness to look at and feel our content. When we stop abandoning ourselves in moments of agony, shame, anger, despair, and any other unpleasant emotional morass... that's when healing is experienced. And it is always okay to seek help. We do not have to do this on our own. Blessings. Happy New Year.
I’ve never lost faith in Shia over the years. I grew up watching the Even Stevens series and honestly loved the Transformers series he was in. It’s painful to hear how much he was going through mentally all throughout those years, but hearing that he has healed himself and continues to do so mentally speaks volumes. Jon just letting Shia speak, actively listening yet still controlling the conversation. You could tell Shia felt safe, comfortable, could just speak his mind with no judgment. By the end of the interview you could tell Shia felt a little more healed in himself getting all that info out there in the open for all to hear.
You put your faith in a stranger whose job it is to pretend to be somebody else?
@@Kiltskills what? No. I’m saying it seemed like after his Transformers movies he kinda fell of the face of the earth a bit because of his mental struggles with himself. The internet wouldn’t/hasn’t let him forget his kooky-ness and it shows that it really brought him down. When I say “I didn’t lose faith in him”, I’m saying I was always pulling for him to come out of his darkness during those years, I just didn’t know he had it this bad. I myself have struggled with major depression & have had plenty of rough mental low points that I’m definitely not proud of. Shia, in this talk, paints a great picture of what people living in a mental hell feel like. Especially with how fucked the world has gotten over the years & the fucked up timeline we’re all living in today.
You should watch the movie a guide to recognizing your saints. Ive always been a shia fan n always knew he struggled but that movie is the reason i always stood firm in my support of him. Its both one of the most painful and the most beautiful films of all time in my opinion. Its not a well known movie but its got a star studded cast and i think several of them gave the best performances of their lives in that movie. It can be hard to watch if ur a sensitive person but its a must see in my opinion.
What is this man blabbering about 😴
Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It’s an important step most skip. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is Lord.
Shia is a real, fascinating smart dude.....Hope he finds his peace but doesnt lose the edge that makes him who he is an actor, props to Bernthal to just sitting him back and letting him talk.
He needs real friends is the problem.. I can only imagine what is like being famous..People think oh your rich and famous life must be amazing all day every day
Like 2 guys serving life sentences killing time, dreaming about getting fkd up asap
Shia has the best way with his words. The way he tells his stories and stories in general, he paints a picture so clearly! Good for him for bettering himself 🙏🙏
I'm grateful for both of you, Shia and Jon, for talking about deep issues and the things that really matter. Keep following your purposes.
Man… God bless these two men. Currently dealing with my own shame and guilt, and seeing Shia in this state, speaking this candidly has really given me hope that I’ll be okay soon.
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@@valiant1743 what you laughing at lad?
Yeah but Shia has millions to keep him comfortable, you don’t.
@@Ruder6163 Millions don’t make you rich my friend.
@@Ruder6163 how do you know old mate Grant is loaded bruh
I'm such a huge fan of Shia's work, both acting and directing. And I've always enjoyed listening to him speak. He's very smart, intuitive, and great storyteller. It breaks my hear that he is so troubled. I have family that has these struggles. I truly hope he finds his way and finds peace.
what happened to him?
I dont think hes smart...hes moronic. A great actor though
@@cyberdiary2 you mean plagiarizing
With all that being very true of how top class Shia is, 1 of his best traits is his comedy 8:19
@@robd1329 wouldn't be surprised if he thought the same of you
Intensely thought provoking, thanks to both of you for this. Certainly making a real difference with this. Really hit home.
Gentlemen this was a fantastic interview Shia was brutally honest and it is wonderful to watch the miracle work in people in the program I had no idea about this youtube channel and for some reason I came across this and it was exactly what I needed today to hear 2 hours of treatment thank you guys Everyone on the planet needs a friend like Jon Bernthal
I am an addict.. I need help.. I am confronting all my fears and for the last time I am relying on my family who I’ve hurt to help me thru this.. thank you Jon for using your platform to address aa / na/ mental illness and bring people who I know to the light and share their experiences with me. Thank you Shia, I enjoyed hearing your journey and wish you well brother. 🙏
🙏🙏praying for you Wayne
You got it Wayne.
At some point you get so desperate your willing to try anything. If that’s the case then there’s a lot of things you can try, I won’t name them all because countless other experienced people would have better ideas than me, but that provides you with many options.. and besides.. what do you have to lose?.. that’s how I see things. If I truly have nothing to lose then that’s not necessarily a bad thing, that leaves the entire world to gain. :) wishing you good luck on your journey. I went from an alcoholic felon to a Buddhist and family man. Life can be great, you just gotta live through some of the mud first. But even lotus flowers bloom in swamps 🪷
I hope you find your way through everything Wayne. I know the struggle myself and it's really complicated and complex. The one piece of advice I wish I'd been given earlier is that 1 month or 2 months mean very little in the grand scheme of things. It wasn't until I passed the 1 year mark of working on myself and sobriety that I started to feel the REAL difference. Physically and mentally I started to feel like a new person together with an entirely new level of regret and shame that wasn't as negative as it sounds. For the first time I truly and deeply wanted to stay on a better path because I understood better what was wrong with the way I was living before. Some people talk about "clarity", well I believe that true clarity only comes after a decent period of time. So don't give yourself a hard time or wonder why you find it so difficult months in, it will be, until you reach that peak and start coasting easier down the other side. Stick with it and don't worry, it won't always be a battle. Wishing you all the best!
Wishing you the best.
I feel we all knew he was hurting somehow seeing him change and his smile fade and now he has the confidence to share his story and grow as a person and share it with us. Thank you!
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Tell Max I referred you to him for a business investment that will change your financial life...
Dude... hes batshit loonie and out of touch with reality. Who cares.
Thank you Shia for your personal story. It has inspired me to do better and work at it harder for myself. My God Bless You and Your Family
So glad this found me. Exactly what I needed today!
Going through the same shit. 22 days sober today. I was so resistant to AA when I went in.
I started drinking just one month after alcohol tried to take my life in the form of acute pancreatitis. My body digested parts of itself and made me vomit them up. I couldn’t eat or drink anything for a week hooked up to machines. Yet, I went right back on the sauce. “This time it’ll be different.”
A week later, I found myself sitting with a loaded pistol… contemplating… reasoning why my son and my wife and family and friends would be better off without me. I held it to my temple and cried… and I couldn’t do it.
My wife found me like that and took me to a meeting the next day. I hated it. “I don’t believe in God! How is this supposed to work? Look at all these losers! I’m not like them! Fuck this!”
I continued to drink while going to AA. I’d even show up to meetings drunk. That lasted another month. And then I felt the same pain in my chest that I knew was my pancreas about to shut down again. I spent just ONE day sober and went to a meeting. I listened for real. I opened my heart and my mind. At the end of the meeting, I went over to someone who’d offered to be my sponsor when I wasn’t ready, and I said just three words:
“I need help.”
That was three weeks and one day ago. I have been to a meeting everyday since. However, it was only three days ago that something clicked. I felt the presence of a higher power that I’d shut out 30 years ago as a teenager. The words started making sense. Everyone’s words became something to relate to. It wasn’t just their stories… it was mine.
I can never promise anyone that I’ll never drink again. That’s assuming far too much and most likely impossible, for I am and will always be an alcoholic. What I CAN promise is this: I won’t pick up a drink today. And with the help of my group, my sponsor, my wife, and whatever this universal Being is that’s guiding me now, that’s something I can say with confidence.
Thank you for reading my story. Shia’s resonated with me, and I felt the need to share. If it helps just one person, I feel blessed.
Might be a good idea to give away that pistol
Hang in there bud. You can do this. Thanks for sharing.
@@patduffynousdefions1909 wife removed all firearms from the house the next day
Religion is bullshit. Jesus and his word kjb. Is real.
Thanks for sharing your story, hope it all works out well in the end, take care
I still love Shia as an actor. His recall and story telling is always entertaining and well delivered! Hope to see him in some big rolls soon!
I Don't think he's gonna do any big roles anymore, at least what he said in one of the interviews, that hes done with blockbuster type movies.
Same here or at least some moderate rolls
*roles
@@predatory_fish_keeper_9553 cinnamon rolls
@@jasongarcia1886 dinner rolls?
This is a great interview. Always love hearing Shia. Btw, Jon I just watched all of "We Own This City". You were amazing! It's great to see you guys doing good. I've been sober since January, 2nd 2018. I love hearing stuff like this.
Jon that was a great interview with Shia . My thoughts and prayers are with you and Shia and your family and friends. Wish everyone Happiness, prosperity, and Good Health.
Jon might be the first person to get me to pay for patreon. Love how he actually lets his guest fully tell their stories, and allows himself to full ingage in what theyre saying
Was just ab to say the same thing. I’ve never been one to put a penny down for patreon until now
Give it someone who needs it.
@@steec6713 he’s not one who needs it, but one that deserves it.
yes cause he really needs that extra money guy is struggling.
@@ucevrim i know i like the guy but cmon he is rich and asking for patreon
Lets go Jon, a real space holder, a beautiful listener. I love Shia and hope he stays on the path. Be careful with the list of people you hurt and what you do with that list, because sometimes that can be ego as well, making amends is sometimes just to serve us so we can sleep at night - however the intention behind it seems pure.
I think you are writing something very important and right.
When you make a list like this, to apologize, to make things right -
1. Don't just try to call or even text people, no, meet them in person and take whatever shit they give you. Even if they don't forgive you.
You made the mistake, not them. Keep calm and accept your wrongdoing.
2. Do not make this list public. Imagine never telling anyone about this list or the meetings.
Does that feel wrong? Then you do it for your ego, for other people's view of you. In that case, it's not time yet.
Yes! I always zeroed in on “the harm” & asking permission before hand, so that it didn’t become about me checking my box
This is one of the most amazing meets I've seen and heard ! Thank you
Amazing interview. I appreciate what you're doing, John. This is a fantastic podcast. Mad respect for Shia also. Takes courage to share these intimate details. Good on you, bro.
Also, John, I have an extremely short list of favorite actors, and you're one of them. Hope to see you in more movies/shows soon.
God bless.
Some of these comments are contributing to the ego that even Shia said wasn't helpful , actually harmful, in finally facing his demons. This interview was great and props to Jon and his team for doing it. I wish Shia a steady recovery and appreciate him sharing his ongoing journey to it. But I've seen a few of the women that came forward with the pain he inflicted on them often treated like shit for saying anything, so I also want to lift them up! I will say I am glad that Shia is being honest about the pain and hurt he has caused because many in his position and access, would still be making those crutch phone calls Shia spoke of, to those in power; continuing to runaway from and avoid facing the hurt.
Exactly!
He could read this and think "Oh yea, look at all this love" OR "This is great but I dont need validation for the work im doing" I think if he read these comments, he would be looking for those who are needing a boost or going through a struggle and sympathizing with them. Sometimes its nice to see that you may have inspired someone and that feeds the drive, not the ego, to carry on improving and setting the example. Thats how I would see it anyway. You make a valid point though mate
It's no coincidence that this comment has so few engagement.
he is delusional
Yeah. Not my place to criticize someone supposedly pouring their heart out after being suicidal, but I feel like he could have been less abstract about the harm he's inflicted on people sober or not to better illustrate that it's that man he's battling and not some mythical monster of addiction who forced poor him to do mean things
Wow, what an intense conversation... Take notes. This is a product of someone who can openly discuss their thoughts and struggles to a friend who listens without judgement..Real ones content is becoming next level!!!
They recorded it
This 18 mins should be shared by all who love someone addicted to something to all those addicted and as many friends of theirs as possible. This is POWERFUL stuff.
I love that he gave his wife that credit and recognition! That truly shows a lot about the kind of person he is and I’m super happy for this guy man 🙏🏽
One of the best interviews I have ever seen, I'm going to watch the full one right now. Thank you for this.
That was one of the most captivating podcast talks ive ever seen. Was hanging on shias every word. Deep, Meaningful and can see the pain.
Hes a good actor. I'll give him that.
@@jamiefugazi6974 I am a female and was in a similar situation - would explode all the time and do stuff I'm not proud of... but I had people who helped and believed in me to be better. Without them I wouldn't even be here. Everyone deserves second chances, there are of course some fucked up stuff you just can't forgive and forget but I'd be a hypocrite to say that people don't deserve a chance for redemption.
@@jamiefugazi6974yes! i can feel that too but don't know why... Can't put my finger on it. Is he too slick in his speaking or have you seen stuff about him?
@@jamiefugazi6974 thanks for the response. Man, I wanted to like the guy but the hairs on my neck went up. Gut instinct I suppose. I had no idea about all the stuff you mentioned. Damn fine acting in the "interview". His delivery and use of vocabulary is TOO good I suppose.
Speaking of UFC, I'm an avid YT follower of the sport. I see everything after it's happened. How 'bout that Leon Edwards fight? 😂 Must have been his night.
@@jamiefugazi6974 "there are of course some fucked up stuff you just can't forgive and forget"
Thank you for sharing your story and most of all for humbling yourself to share it with us. I have a new found respect for Shia LaBeouf
I absolutely love that Jon is allowing him to spill his heart out and he’s not interrupting Shia. I can listen to him talk all day!
Damn. Shia seems like he's on the path. Good for him. I've been in AA. Brotherhood, accountability, and community are vital for healing and positive action, especially as a man. Ruminations, big ego, passive aggressiveness and vagueness are not promoted. Everything is clear cut and humbling. Talking about trauma is hard and sometimes people feel like it's pointless or that they're being used in some way by the interviewer whether it's a friend or a counselor. This was such a helpful video.
Where can I find that? AA
@TT Look this up: AA near me
A list of locations will show up if you scroll down a bit on the webpage. AA is offered nationwide. Best of luck
Man, I could listen to Shia tell stories about his life all day. Such a great story teller and definitely one of the realist blokes out there. So genuine and honest, smart too.
Yup.
His smarts are why I want to see him “get addicted” to learning and getting PhDs. Apply all those smarts and free time to learning, and maybe then contributing something to academia/medicine/something. Manipulate matter, not manipulate people who matter.
Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It’s an important step most skip. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is Lord.
I'm glad to see you two are as real off the screen as you appear together on the screen. Wanting to jump back on the wagon. Thanks for sharing. Gave me alot to think about.
The thing about this…I’m an addict and I see a lot in him that I saw in myself. He is saying some beautiful things here, some really insightful, lifesaving shit. Because I know the extremity of the way he treated that woman, and I know the nature of an addict who “says the right things”, I can only hope that he continues on this same path and makes amends where possible. He doesn’t get a full pass, at least from me, just because he is in a 18 minute video saying the right things. I made a drugging and drinking career off saying the right things. He can only prove himself through the passage of time and the consistency of this thought pattern. If I’ve learned anything in the program, it’s that. Passage of time with consistency of a healthy thought pattern. I know he did horrible things to that woman, and maybe more people than that, but there is nothing he can do at this time to change that. That’s not said to excuse him from consequences on that, and he understands that, but he does need to maintain that consistency. Not only for his own well-being on his recovery journey, but also to hope to improve on the situations he filled with so much pain, If possible.
A human being can only recover one day at a time. I hope that some of this makes sense to people reading it. A healthy pattern of thought through the passage of time. I swear to you, if you’re anything like me or this man, that simple way of looking at your life has a high probability of saving it. I wish you peace on your journey.
I really appreciate this take. I listened to the full interview and Yeah it sounds like he's changing and working to be better. But I've seem a lot of people completely write him off, but all we can do is wait and see. If he continues to improve and show us that he's changed then that's a good thing. But we'll just have to see.
@@YourMomsCat69 in terms of self improvement, I use this: I tell myself that I only have to try to be 2% better than I was yesterday. Small, Manageable, changes made everyday, rather than “I need to be the best version of myself in every way right now”. Try the second one and you will fail. Good luck to you, man.
@@dancoyle6911 Thank you, stranger. Idk you but I love you man!
@@dancoyle6911 And best of luck to you too!
@@YourMomsCat69 love you too! Have a good one!
What we have here is a Natural storyteller and a caring, patient, "let them speak" interviewer. Beautiful thing
He is pretty much milking the clout off a dude that is super high on the post rehab millionaire life, reaching rock bottom with that type of money.. Sad tale
I love that you can always feel the energy Shia gives off. Incredible interview
He might be INFJ!! We give our souls to ppl that they really feel our authentication.
This is one of the best interviews I've seen on CZcams period I'm 34 n at the point of my life with every emotion this man is speaking Bout thank you so much 😮😮❤❤❤❤ really really I don't wanna feel doomed no more
I hope Jons doing another Punisher season. Ive watched all of them back to back while I was ill. He helped me get through it. Bless him..
The Man inspired me yesterday when I watched his testimony of his conversion to the Catholic faith. I was down in the gutter myself and I'm still deeply ashamed because of hurting so many people when I went through my depression. Anyways I got up today to jump rope and jog. I'm a former boxer so I have to become a warrior again for my family and friends. God bless shia and everyone else here.
@popeye I'm in the same boat. My drinking affected my relationship and my closest friends. My ex still tries to help but didn't notice till now. She paid for tickets to a grappling show with the little money she makes from her job. And at the end of it she asked me if I wanted to compete again, to work out, to experience glory one more time...
I wanted to apologize to her for being such a bad experience in her life. But my shame didn't let me... instead I'm gonna prove to her that I'm ok, that she doesn't need to worry about me anymore and that she can move on and find a better man.
@@yahelluna3842 Amén 🙏
@@popeye8427 if you ever feel like talking to someone don't hesitate to reach out. Stay strong! I'll do the same.
@@yahelluna3842 aww man thanks really appreciate it and sure no problem.
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I'm the one with the blue sweats. I'm a coach
Two great actors, it’s a breathe of fresh air to see them in the raw emotional feeling.
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I SO LOVE this interview. Wow. In less than 19 minutes, I learned more about Shia LeBouf and life in general. Beautiful.
Can say that I resonate with his story, way too much in aspects of it. Don't think I could've seen this at a more crucial time, sitting in quarantine of my second long term residential stay. Love this.
That was,truly,the realest talk I've ever heard about the transition into sobriety...amazing!!! Thank you both
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