Still learning about dual cases, hoping to get some marlin gear in my 95 4runner. Could you please explain why this will happen or post a link that describes this and why it happens? Thanks -Novice mechanic
@@FinMcMurder He is maybe partially correct, anytime the front case is in low it increases the torque output of the front case. Gear multiplication equals torque multiplication, so putting the front case in low increase the torque being exerted onto the front of the rear case. But putting the rear case in low does nothing to reduce the amount of input torque on the rear case. I never worried about in my old 85 with 2.28 case in front of a 4.0 case in the rear, I did however use the 4.0 case most of the time and just went in and out of the 2.28 front case as needed. There were times however when I would run the front 2.28 case only in 4wd, like in mud or slippery rocks, never broke anything in the transfer case. Front axle shafts.... different story!! If you run a lower gear set in one of the cases put the lower gear in the rear case just to be safe.. I have seen people run 4.7 gears in both cases with no problems, just use common sense. Lo lo lo gears are for crawling, so don't hammer on the gas pedal. If you need wheel speed then take the front case out of low range and use a higher transmission gear.
Great video! iv been obsessing about getting duels in my 1984 toyota pickup that im 3.4 swapping, this video was alot of info thank you ! Toyota lover here so im defiantly subbing :D
Isn’t this a dual case triple stick? A double stick you cant go “low-low” like that. It’s just to engage regular low in 2WD. You have a triple stick meaning you can go into that “low-low” gear
triple stick is all 3 sticks in the area where the stock 4wd shifter was this is a stock shifter with twin sticks behind it its essentially the same thing but with the triple sticks you don't have to cut another hole everything is ran. from the top of the front tcase
Exactly. With hubs unlocked, keeping me in 2wd, on my 1980 4 speed Toyota utilizing the transfer case will give me 8 speeds to work with. 4 in regular 2wd high and 4 in Lo when shifting down the transfer case. In 2wd offroad, instead of regular 1st gear I have much more versatility in Lo 1st and 2nd. That dual setup is slick though.
I have a 2001 Hilux LN167 and when I put it in 4x4 with the diff locks on it jumps out back to 2H when I set off. 4x4 Low works fine. It does not jump out of 4H when the diff locks are off. Any idea what might be happening? What do I need to look at?
That's just 1 trail in California. There are thousands of trails out there. This is also Alaska son not California filled to the rim with fruit loops. Very remote territory.
Dual stick it freaking awesome.
NuttyNu place both in Low and keep it in 2wd. Hold the brake and do the worlds slowest burnout
Never use the front case without having the rear locked into low. You will almost certainly break input shafts.
Still learning about dual cases, hoping to get some marlin gear in my 95 4runner. Could you please explain why this will happen or post a link that describes this and why it happens? Thanks
-Novice mechanic
@@FinMcMurder He is maybe partially correct, anytime the front case is in low it increases the torque output of the front case. Gear multiplication equals torque multiplication, so putting the front case in low increase the torque being exerted onto the front of the rear case. But putting the rear case in low does nothing to reduce the amount of input torque on the rear case. I never worried about in my old 85 with 2.28 case in front of a 4.0 case in the rear, I did however use the 4.0 case most of the time and just went in and out of the 2.28 front case as needed. There were times however when I would run the front 2.28 case only in 4wd, like in mud or slippery rocks, never broke anything in the transfer case. Front axle shafts.... different story!!
If you run a lower gear set in one of the cases put the lower gear in the rear case just to be safe.. I have seen people run 4.7 gears in both cases with no problems, just use common sense. Lo lo lo gears are for crawling, so don't hammer on the gas pedal. If you need wheel speed then take the front case out of low range and use a higher transmission gear.
@@StumpyVanLife Thank you. I appreciate the time you took for your response
This is why I came here I’m currently rebuilding mine because I ran my cases in hi and low
And broke my input shaft
Nice, thanks for the explanation.
Next time maybe leave the coughing hacking dude on the couch. 😂😂😂
Great video! iv been obsessing about getting duels in my 1984 toyota pickup that im 3.4 swapping, this video was alot of info thank you ! Toyota lover here so im defiantly subbing :D
Thank you
@@NuttyNu 2 years later watching this video the 100th time finnaly have my dual cases on the garage waiting on my new clutch and going to install it 😍
not confusing at all , good video
Thanks!
Hey bro how about a video on how everything’s hooked up. Detail like design and possible how to. Thanks
I didn't do the install, but I can deff do a video on some of the hookup to give you a general idea
So basically it’s like a traditional transfer case but you can access low range in 2wd?
Isn’t this a dual case triple stick? A double stick you cant go “low-low” like that. It’s just to engage regular low in 2WD. You have a triple stick meaning you can go into that “low-low” gear
yes
triple stick is all 3 sticks in the area where the stock 4wd shifter was this is a stock shifter with twin sticks behind it its essentially the same thing but with the triple sticks you don't have to cut another hole everything is ran. from the top of the front tcase
Hey are you Hmong?!!!
What happens if you shift the top one into 4wd?
Hello, with a similar setup can you make it to get decent highway speed and at the same time to have decent offroad capabilityes ? Thanks
Yes
Anyone else use low range at the drive thru
I’m getting your shifters confused because they both say 4.70
Yes. Its incorrect. Top is 228
Bottom is the 470.
Can we see pictures or video of your actual set up...?
I no longer have it
Oh no, that's too bad...thank you. You got a nice set up. I'm looking to get a set up like that, but I need some guidance...
You actually can drive the truck in 4 low with the hubs unlocked i do it all the time i won’t drive in 4 high that would probably be bad
Exactly. With hubs unlocked, keeping me in 2wd, on my 1980 4 speed Toyota utilizing the transfer case will give me 8 speeds to work with. 4 in regular 2wd high and 4 in Lo when shifting down the transfer case. In 2wd offroad, instead of regular 1st gear I have much more versatility in Lo 1st and 2nd. That dual setup is slick though.
I have a 2001 Hilux LN167 and when I put it in 4x4 with the diff locks on it jumps out back to 2H when I set off. 4x4 Low works fine. It does not jump out of 4H when the diff locks are off. Any idea what might be happening? What do I need to look at?
diff ratios?
Holy 😵😵😵
Ok ya have to talk a bit slower and do not wave your hands around so much. You say something and your hands are doing something else.
Just watch it twice
Dual cases are a waste of money , I do the rubicon all day with just 4.7
That's just 1 trail in California. There are thousands of trails out there. This is also Alaska son not California filled to the rim with fruit loops. Very remote territory.
@@Oldplacerminer99 doesn’t matter , twin cases are for show if your vehicle is set up correctly with a single low transfer case
@@mikejohle3717 I got a 3 stick and use them all. The Rubicon is easy compared to where I go.