Calling Out Graffiti Biters RESPECTFULLY - Rating Fans Graffiti 1 - 10
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- čas přidán 12. 01. 2023
- Today I have to call out bitting in graffiti, and understand, nothing against the two people in todays video because almost everyone in graffiti bites consistently but there's better ways to learn! Learn the basics and you wont have to bite, you can be inspired by others sure, but you dont have to bite them. this is a huge issue in graffiti where most graffiti artists dont know the basics and as a result most graffiti artists bite, even "professionals" copy others as well.
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im gonna argue that theres nothing wrong with copying/biting styles, as long as it stays in the books. in all other forms of art, studying the greats and literally copying their work is one tried and true method of learning. as long as you are also practicing fundamentals so you can understand what the greats are actually doing. and i mean, why submit someone else's work for critique? its taking credit that's a problem. not the act itself
Nah the whole part of graffiti is that everyone has there own style
You take inspiration but you shouldn't copy and paste styles. Usually you put your own little quirks and personality in the. Piece
@@sins.3003I think That he means something else: you can use the work of others to literally study how they applied fundamentals and techniques under their style. Is like when artists copy the classics to study their technique. It's like a more effective and intense form of observation in which you still pay attention to what's under it and start familiarizing with what can be done with those fundamentals. You don't simply copy paste something you don't understand... And also if you understand it, then you can do it your own way.
Guys like this just ruin the graffiti scene trying to argue that biting styles is some what acceptable you all need to get schooled properly and stop doing legal shit
Yo I’m hyped I finally made it in a grim video!!
really enjoyed your piece man! Also, love the newest one on your isntagram
Yo it’s Sids
the biggest biter in graff is Banksy and he is famous for it lol
Wow here so early , I love your videos man I’ve been watching for years and when I watch your vids I get inspired to write more and use your tips to make my pieces better and better , much love from El Cajon C.A
hot take ik, but this hyper critical stuff kinda ruins graff for me, in my eyes graff is meant to be a janky art form where not everythings perfect, especially for throws and tags etc, w big wildstyle pieces i can see it but i have a dgaf attitude when it comes to sprawling my tags/throws on walls, altough it may not resonate w me, i can appreciate wat your doing and you 100% know what your talking about so keep it up!
Oh dude that's not a hot take at all. Enjoy graffiti how you like to most. If you want to just create then you're more than free to do that 100%. Thankyou for being so kind and respectful in your comment, I really appreciate that
@@Theartistblock no problem brotha, keep killing it 🙌
I noticed there was critiques on the biting styles of the letters, but nothing on writing the same name as writers are already using, for instance, there is already a HERO crew. If someone is going to start writing a name it would be best to see if someone has already been writing it for years before you just jump in. Just a quick Google search before you begin. ✌️
That's the dumbest advice ever a name like hero there's thousands of people that write that it's way to common of a name
You can most likely find a “hero” in nearly every large city 🤦♂️ pretty generic word.
@@iultrah3804 yeah, some have been around before others. I think I’ll start writing BLADE or TAKI just cause I like the name 🤔
YO G HEARD YOU GOT YOUR ACCOUNT BACK!!! CANT WAIT 4 MO VIDS
Love ya grim keep it up
another great vid grim!
thanks dude :D
thanks for info, dude!
So many people bit my letters for tags and throws, they have went as far as taking my name and changing the last letter(literally)
Omg legit same wth
share your work less then? maybe? its gonna happen pretty much no matter what :/
I just started out with mops and markers with surfaces with mops and doing stickers with markers I will send some pictures of my stuff from beginning to now 🤙
That second one is a Baker B all day
love you man ❤🔥
you're far too kind man
You say that the tag at 5:30 has bad line control. I think I agree. However, I don't understand why I agree.
A line is a line as long as you don't 'sketch' it, right? What makes a line good/bad?
Feedback on the first piece was realy usefull by the way. I've been struggling with that exact issue.
This is a great question, so if we look at his lines, we can see a lack of not only consistency, but also a lack of precision in the strokes as well as from one tag to another. This right here shows us he doesnt have enough practice with lines just yet to get and maintain confident, precise, consistent, clean lines. Great example is his O, as well as the messy lines around the left of the E where it connects to the H, the bubbles around the letter having at least two points where you can see he started, then stopped, lifted the pen and restarted again. This is only to name a few give aways. Now because you're also struggling with lines let me give you some ways you might want to practice.
To get better at lines lets understand that we need to practice drawing lines with all of our joints in our arm, individually and together. This means we want to learn to draw clean lines by using just our fingers, then learn to draw clean lines with just our wrists, then do the same for elbow and shoulder. Once you get the feeling of that you want to learn to draw clean lines with all the joints together. The reason each is important is because each joint is well suited for different sized lines, and different amounts of control over certain distances. You might need your fingers for small lines, but if you're doing a larger curve than you might need your elbow.
Next up, to actually train your line work, draw some nice defined dots on a page, and then draw some shapes around the page. the goal is to treat the shapes like obstacles that are in your way, and your job is to connect the dots with 1 single smooth clean line. Depending how you place the shapes, you'll have to use some straight lines, and some curved all at different lengths.
You can also draw some basic shapes and forms in pencil, then outline them as well as you can, ensuring your line is nice and of a consistent width all around. as you get better you'll learn to vary the width of a line, but thats something to work up to for the future.
@@Theartistblock Yes! This is a great explaination. And great practicing tips as well. Thanks!!
@@Theartistblock you're a god
Is it bad to look up graffiti abc and memorise your tag in the letters because I have always done that
yes it is really bad get your own letters
where do we go to learn the basics?
id recommend starting with the elements of art, line shape form value space color and texture. You can find info on this in just about everywhere, like its kinda hard to find bad info on those topics. the elements of art are where the majority of your progress knowledge and skill will come from as this topic is the foundation of all things. Many books cover these topics super well and there are tons and tons of vids on the topics most are incredible videos. In all honesty, color is about the hardest of these to research just as it can be a confusing topic for someone just learning, but i highly recommend one of my favorite books "vision and art the biology of seeing". amazing book written by someone whos way too overqualified to write art books but im glad they did lol
Hey I'd love to see more work from you on walls
came up with a new tag recently, put it up in a few places around town, and then saw a tag i'd seen before and realized i has subconsciously bit his D.... o.o. like not exactly the same but enough that you could tell it was influenced directly from it
Can I submit something if I don't got insta?
for this series unfortunately insta is required just because of how i record it. I go directly to my DM for the video so for that reason, it has to be through insta.
100k!!!!!
4:36 🙏🏾
you did great work buddy :D
2:25 BKAE 🤩🤩🤩
WHY YOU DROPOUT OF TKO? Us boys still burning shit, frontline in the field
lol respect to all of you guys. i was only ever just barely in the crew and never put it up so at this point after 15+ years i dont consider myself in the crew lol. I used to work at a graffiti store and my mentor knew some of the TKO dudes. we had an event, tons of people came and while i was working some random dude who was in the crew put me down, i said thanks but i kept it moving and kept working. I assumed he either put me down because i worked at the shop (this was common) or put me down to gain favor with my mentor.
Yoooooooooo
yooooo did you manage to get your other account?!
3:16 that hand style is pretty good the hallow and the " he added made it worse but I wouldn't say that tag screams he doesn't have experience
bro even the " hero " throwies , to me they seemed fine , i was like bruhhh how much more simpler can u get 🤣😂 that critique really tixked me off 🤣😭😭
the guy at 3:16 certainly has some great qualities going for them , as mentioned some of their elements of art are spot on and that's really carrying them atm, but they lack some critical things such as letter name positioning, letter name weight, negative space management, and letter structure. They currently fill their gaps in knowledge by supplementing that with inspiration and things they've seen other people do, but that isnt their knowledge, thats other peoples knowledge picking up their slack. When we look at their work without inspiration we see a massive decline in quality because they dont have other peoples work carrying theirs so we get to see their actual skill level. Now most writers copy to some extent, its not that big of an issue at all tbh, but the goal here is to get them to raise their own knowledge so they dont need inspiration from other people or so they dont need to bite. ultimately, that path of biting and using others work as "inspiration" is exactly what limits most graffiti artists because they get to a point where they plateau because they've been filling the gaps from their ignorance with info from other people without ever learning that info for themselves and this is what keeps them from progressing past a certain point, and this keeps them from gaining more that 1 style and its at this point where due to that lack of knowledge, if they want a second style or if they want to "improve" then they have no choice but to copy because they themselves dont have the info necessary to do it. This is the path most take, this is the path he's on, and anyone who doesnt study the basics (even when not copying) is on the same path, but, for him, he's still early enough in graffiti to where he can easily stop.
Fr grim lowkey trippin nothing fundamentally wrong wit the tag
Thanks for the critique, helps Me out a lot - Sorem
i was wondering how you came up with sorem cz yk you got the exact name sokem/sorem from here in atlanta
@The blue juice from the porta potty I used to write zones, changed it to sonem because I didn't like zones, then I changed it to sorem
EVERYONE in graff has bit styles... Ain't nothin new...GOOD STYLE IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER... that piece you said was sooo good... Every letter was bit ....get off the internet and go paint....
this guys fuckin clueless
bro imagine being the guy in the thumbnail☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Lol nice try but he already commented and we talked on insta
@@Theartistblock he was not trying to go by him just calling out it would suck to be him lol
@@itsmebutwhoami8177 there was an additional comment that the author deleted, that's what I was responding to
QUSTION: Can you trust those graffiti alphabets you find on the Internet
no, while they can be fun to look at and super well done in some cases they arent good to learn from . i have a few vids on that topic
@@Theartistblock do some of them follow the fondementals or not
@@TheNiceDemon69 I mean of course, for sure but they follow them in the context of an alphabet not a name. I explain the issue in depth in the videos about the topic, I recommend giving it a watch
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You're not that guy pal. Real Graff people don't put their face up like that
Love comme ts like these. Now go write this same exact thing on a Saber post, seen post, skuff, cope 2 , cap, and see how well that logic holds up lol, go on now I'll wait 🤣
Heey Block, you should review graffiti and game(if you are interest it) Mark Ecko Getting Up: Content Underpressure. And how do we get our graffiti review by you?
Game review
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All you have to do is shoot me a message on instagram, i cant guarantee ill see it but if i dont respond within a week or two then shoot a follow up. im in my DMs constantly so always feel free to follow up.
2nd one 0-10
oh man no way lol i really enjoyed that one
@@Theartistblock whaaaaa i showed it to people no one could read it mate.
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