Great Western Steam Up - Eureka, Glenbrook, and the Tahoe
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- This week we are looking at three locomotives from 1875 & 1876. Eureka and Palisades number 4, the Eureka, Carson, and Tahoe Logging and Fluming Company number 1, the Glenbrook, and NCNGRR number 5, the Tahoe.
From the web:
The Glenbrook and its sister, #3, The Tahoe were built to haul cordwood and lumber from Glenbrook, Nevada on the east shore of Lake Tahoe to Spooner Summit, at the crest of the Carson Range. At the summit, the logs and lumber were put in a flume that carried it to the south end of Carson City. There it was loaded onto flatcars of the Virginia & Truckee Railroad which carried it to Virginia City for use in the construction of the town, as mine timbers, and as boiler fuel.
The Eureka is a privately owned 3 ft (914 mm) gauge steam locomotive based in Las Vegas, Nevada. It is one of three preserved Baldwin class 8/18 C 4-4-0 locomotives in the United States, of which it is the only operable example. It is listed on the United States National Register of Historic Places.
Warner Bros. bought the engine in 1939, and it was featured in many films, such as Torrid Zone, Cheyenne Autumn, and The Great Train Robbery. The Eureka's last film appearance was in the 1976 film, The Shootist. The Eureka was later sold to Old Vegas, an amusement park in Henderson, Nevada, where it was placed on display in 1980. In 1985, a fire occurred at Old Vegas, with a burning building collapsing on the Eureka, badly damaging the engine.
A year later, the engine was discovered by Las Vegas attorney Dan Markoff, who purchased it and restored it to operating condition with the help of his father. The restored Eureka debuted at Railfair '91 at the California State Railroad Museum. It was then operated on U.S. Gypsum's private tracks in Plaster City, California, in 1993. The locomotive was listed as a structure on the National Register of Historic Places on January 12, 1995 and was the first transportation listing in Las Vegas.
Wasn’t it fun seeing Eureka and Glenbrook together at Cumbres and Toltec last year. So great to see them together again in there natural state of Nevada.
Amazing
For the love of trains, men and women spend years of their lives restoring, maintaining, and operating these historical treasures. I'm somewhat envious of people like Ed Dickens who get to drive these locomotives and the likes of 844 and 4014.
I often wonder, if every boy and some girls, once they have seen a locomotive, under steam and moving, don't dream of being the person at the throttle, just like I did when I saw the big NYC Niagara's rolling down the line, the very first time, and fell into a life long love of trains.
Well, there is still more to come? Thanks for improving my day. ;-)
If kids were exposed to them the hobby would be thriving.
I loved❤ the brass on Eureka and Palisades. I think it sets it apart from the other locomotives. Both are immaculate but, when sat one behind the other the E&P's brass just pops. Awesome video!
Shame they didn’t run it more..
I got to turn W.W.&F railway No. 9 and the modle T railcar on the Armstrong turntable at the W.W.&F. Railway Museum. It was a lot of fun!
Cool!!
Awesome video 👍😎🇺🇸🚂
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This is one informative video with a great tour of the locomotives.
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It looks like the two of you had a really great time so I take it you'll be up in in Evanston Wyoming this coming weekend for that train show have fun 👍👍
Some other stuff going on but yes. That’s the plan.
A fantastic day thank you. great pictures.to
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Love that manual turntable. Archimedes smiles.😁 Edit: "Roughing it" and "Life on the Mississippi. " are my twofaves.
Armstrong turntable.
So great to see the Tahoe Twins in steam together again
Indeed!!
Love the use of 1870s photo's mixed with the 2020s vidio of the old Steamengines...
Keep up the great work, always look forward to the next episode ❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍
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Thanks for your videos from train fan that didn't get to go do thank you
You too sure sound like you are a great fun couple.
Another great show!
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Another beautiful video. Thank you.
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@@ToyManTelevision You're welcome.
In the local Goodwill store, I found a framed copy of an old b&w photo of the boat "Tahoe" docked on the pier alongside a loco with a star on her boiler. Thought she might be the "Glenbrook", but I haven't seen the photo in a couple of years. I hope I didn't lose it! That's where I first learned about the Eureka, Carson, and Tahoe Logging and Fluming Company
went there on Sat what a great show of old steam!
It was great
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It’s great seeing these American classics restored and in running order. Thanks for taking time to travel to the site and videoing these beautiful locos.
These are sooo cool
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Thanks again for watching. As always.
Great video Dale! Stinkin great locos. However I like the turn table. Those have always fascinated me as have round houses. See you Tuesday! Never boring!
Thanks again. Oh and hi again. See you Sunday.
I’ve been watching you two for many many years and I don’t know if I say this enough, but thank you! I love this episode. I think it’s my favorite episode I’ve seen since I’ve been watching you for many years😀👍
Wow. Thanks again as always. Gee. Blush. Thanks again.
If you ever find you’re way to the Midwest I highly recommend his home town of Hannibal Missouri. It’s a really fun town with stuff to do. I don’t live far from there and I always enjoy it. Also actual homestead in the village of Florida Mo (yes it is a real place) and it’s actually pretty cool to visit.
I ran into mark Twains history here at Tahoe. For years I kept stumbling across Twain stuff. Then I came across his grave in Elmira New York. And that ended my constant finding of Twain homes and such.
I've just fallen in love with the Virginia and Truckee.
Amazing railroad
This talk of these locomotives is really inspiring. Especially with another mean of transportation.
I was on vacation a good 20 years ago headed from Southern Michigan to California's Pacific highway. Headed west we stopped at Virginia City for a awesome day and train ride on the old V&T. We stayed in Carson City and just down the road was the Nevada state railroad museum. It was around the 4th of July because we watched the fireworks that night. The next day was the big train show at the museum that you all went too. The best thing the show was unexpected just the right place at the right time best trip I ever went on. During that trip we hit California state railroad museum, Durango & Silverton and the George Town Loop railroad. Plus anything railroad in between. Great show proper language and professionally edited. Thank you for all the great shows.
Thanks. We were planning to watch the fireworks there too but high wind and dry conditions canceled those. Dang it.
Just like the Great Lakes which are the world's largest ship museum
What happened with the boilers is that, oil burning boilers are smaller then wood burners. When they got the boiler for Glenbrook they discovered that it couldn’t burn wood and maintain pressure. The reason this happened was because Glenbrook had been modernized and had a oil fired boiler. So of course the measurements came from the old boiler. This wouldn’t work though because they wanted it to be restored to it’s original look. So they had a new one made. Well when they restored Tahoe, they wanted to restore it to its modernized state. So as you said. they traded the boiler for some trucks.
Just a heads up. If you're interested, rumor has it that 2025 will be another big event at the railroad museum as it will be the 150th anniversary of Inyo, Glenbrook, Eureka, Tahoe, and Bowker's construction. Nothing is confirmed yet, but I've heard the plan for next July is to get at least these gals together for a big birthday bash.
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You two are certainly meant for each other!! Really enjoy your well made videos and the commentary that goes with them, Thank you very much, even no annoying sales pitches for hats etc.
Thanks. And if you like the videos you will love our line of cereals and air conditioners. Just kidding!! Thanks again.
@@ToyManTelevision thank you guys!
As promised, you two have definitely put on a great show. Loved seeing these rolling beauties out on the tracks. That turn table was a joy to watch as well. I loved how you had incorporated some history into each steam engine, as well as the logging and the steam boat.
Thank you again for another great video!
I think for Tuesday I’ll show how these dual gauge turntables work.
I'm at a loss for words trying to describe how beautiful these vintage steam locomotives. But, they're just absolutely GORGEOUS. And watching this video gives me a chance to see 'em in motion. Great video! 📸 And, by the way, did someone lose a rubber chicken in the lower left-hand screen of this video? 8:05 🐔 😁 l enjoyed your knowledge on the history of these classic steam locomotives and their "natural habitats". Thanks for bringing us along! 👏 Looking forward to more.
That’s the “Chiggen”. That locomotive was a sign for a chicken restaurant for years and now they call it the Chiggen!
You guys really do some cool stuff back when I still had eyesight I used to love to see stuff like that but I love your videos because I can hear it and you describe it really well thanks
Thanks. Wow. I wish you could see them. Gee..
What a great video! This makes me so happy to see these beautiful engines so lovingly restored and preserved. And your narration is delightful. Both informative and fun. Keep up the great work! 🚂🚃🚃🚃
Thanks again.
Glenbrook is one lovely steam locomotive. Note that it's Carson and Tahoe LUMBER and Fluming Co. Not Logging, just for correction, but great video.
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Hi there guys
Over here in Silver Springs Nevada not to far from Carson .
Hope you had fun with the Trains .
Thanks. We did!
So that's the secret of the hand operated turntable. Keep it very balanced.
I love seeing these old little engines. It's too bad Tahoe wasn't restored to its original appearance, but it's good to see it running.
I always wondered, why is the nameplate on the Glenbrook's tender left blank?
No number either. Just a star on the smoke box. Tahoe logging and fluming didn’t see the need I guess. No lettering. Just a single number below the cab window.
Thanks for another nice video.
The cartouche on the Glenbrook tender sides looks like it should have text in similar to the sister loco.
Locos of this era are cuties.
On the Tahoe logging line they never painted that in! No lettering.
I'm planning on going to the railfans weekend at the Huckleberry Railroad next weekend, they say this is going to be the 40th railfans weekend there
Cool!!!
SS Tahoe's whistle was there atlest on the top of the A&W porter.
Cool!! The life boat is somewhere but no one seems to know where.
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I love these loco's. I didn't love the unnecessary comments in the voice-overs.
This was fun to watch, I had to snicker seeing a rubber chicken laying on a frame... presumably used for signaling the driver. Tell me these people don't have a good sense of humor!
Tell me did you see the rubber chicken when you were editing? Or is it a nugget the watchers find? ;-)
Well that locomotive was used as a sign for a chicken restaurant for decades. And now has the nickname the Chiggen. And a chicken on the pilot.
That turntable really caught my attention. Were you able to see the turntable in Ogden when they were still using it? I did when I was a crew caller for the UP in 1964-65. Great video, thanks guys!
Yes. Snuck in there many times. The D and RG turntable is still in use there!!! North of the depot.
@@ToyManTelevision yes I knew where it was but I didn't get to see it 😕.
I don’t think that they would allow to run on the mainline without air breaks and automatic couples and it’s interesting on how long it takes to rebuild a preserved engine
I know the Glenbrook is known as the Glenbrook but why does it not have a number? I noticed in your old pictures it has #1.
Never lettered or numbered. Just left as is by the logging railroad.
The views of the trains pulling cars looks like they were using links instead of knuckle couplers.
It would be interesting to do a show on the tradition from link and pin to knuckle couplers. Also why does Europe still use link and pin when the knuckle couplers can pull longer trains and more load.
I guess they never saw the need. They did add buffers to keep the crews from getting smashed. But I assume they never saw the need for huge trains.
I found that photo I'd mentioned! I can't see a name or number on the locomotive, but the hand railing on the boiler, the size and shape of the pilot, and even that hose on the pilot look exactly identical to those on the photo at 13:18 on your video. Is that the "Glenbrook"? I'd like to email you the image once I get that photo scanned if you're interested in helping me solve this mystery. :)
Hi. Could be. Need to know where the photo was taken and when. The Baldwin mogul from 1870s was really common. You can send it from Facebook messenger. Dale angell.
@@ToyManTelevision Thanks! OfficeMax was supposed to email me the scan of my picture, but it hasn't arrived. I'll send it as soon as I can. :)
Wait doesn’t the Tahoe locomotive look similar to the Texas locomotive in buster keatons the General.
Smaller. The locomotives in that film were, sadly, destroyed. Standard gauges 1927 so old locomotives like that were junk. Cottage Grove Oregon. Logging railroad.
What happened to Santa Cruz Portland Cement #2 engine that got antifreeze instead of oil? Was there any damage to it?
Nope. All just fine. Just a mislabeled drum. As an oil fired just has a broad nozzle once they emptied out the antifreeze (yuk) and burned out all the crap in the firebox all back to fine.
I have the Bachmann Eureka & Palisade with the wood pilot (ugh, it really annoys me). Any chance you know of any scale drawings so I could try to build the metal pilot? Many thanks
I bought one for the mogul from Bachmann and cut and fit it. Works great.look for Bachmann parts in large scale and the new mogul. I’m sure they still have those.
Were they at loggerheads?
Nope.
I'm left scratching my head.....all the info I've looked through states that #5 was a 4-4-0. If anyone can shed any light on this please do.
Two different number fives. You are correct. The one at Tahoe was the 4-4-0. The one called the Tahoe was a mogul. I think… confusing.