Star Wars Is A Dead Franchise
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- čas přidán 19. 03. 2023
- So I was forcing myself to watch The Mandalorian the other day when the realisation hit me - Star Wars as a franchise is dead. Its been dying for a long time, but now there's no hiding it. Nobody cares about it anymore. It died because Disney killed it.
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Disney had this golden franchise for less than a decade and they managed to completely destroy it and piss on the ashes.
Remember how everyone hated the old expanded universe? like or hate it, it's still better than any of the shit disney has given us since TFA.
Well said...
*menstruate
@@delta2372 That was the first sign they were going to ruin it. When they discarded ALL of it as "legends". There were better characters and stories by writers who respect the lore.
Uhhhhhh remember the Prequels. They were HATED when they were first released
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of dollars unjustly earned suddenly went into Kathleen Kennedy's wallet."
Or Silicon Valley Bank.
@@rogersmith7396 **loses investment value** **proceeds to withdrawal more money**
Yeah, can you believe she’s made more money in the last few years than most good, hardworking people will make over their entire careers?
Talk to me about equality.
It's as if a million Disney+ subscriptions cried out in pain and were suddenly cancelled.
It’s been dead ever since Disney got there corporate hands on it
The state of Star Wars is living proof that you can't just throw money at something to make it good. No amount of money can magically generate creativity/talent. It's the one thing Disney can't buy.
Rings of Power is maybe a better one. I think the money is actually the problem. If thy slashed the budget of Star Wars by about 80% they would need to focus on story and plot as there would be nothing else to play with.
you can buy talent though. and they probably have talented people. but in the end the decisions are made by the empty suits.
Just face it it’s a childish story and we all grow up !
Its the psg of movies
The only people that think it's good are the counterfeit genders.
Hearing the critical drinker talk about how Disney butchered Star Wars is honestly much more entertaining than anything Disney puts out
definitely
And better put together
@@TriyambakMeena Nope the prequals were absolutely gold compared to the pile of shit which is modern star wars.
@@TriyambakMeena After george lucas sold star wars to disney, it became trash.
Luke in the original trilogy: "My father has killed billions of innocent people, but I know that I can save him because there’s still good in him."
Luke in the sequels: "Well my nephew had a dream about the dark side so let’s turn him into sachimi."
@Spacetrooper Um, she was featured in Season 2 as Imperial officers serving Moff Gideon. Just think she's an undercover imperial agent, wait and see.
Scream 6 had some solid meta commentary on franchises and their obsession with tarnishing legacy characters and replacing them altogether. It's one of the dumbest phenomenons in all of Hollywood.
@Spacetrooper person ally she isn't bad as character
Yah it was a little ridiculous. They did Luke's character so dirty in the follow up trilogy.
10/10 writing 😂
Kennedy's incompetence is absolutely shocking, and the only thing more shocking is the fact that she wasn't replaced years ago.
I mean she was a divesity hire what did you expect(why women are considered a minority for hiring purposes despite outnumbering men is a mystery I will never understand probably because I'm trying to find logic where there is none)
Right "incompetence" don't fall for it, she is a Misandrist that knows exactly what she is doing.
Amen, brother!
perhaps it's not incompetence (that's just the excuse), and the ones actually paying her are very happy with her performance...
It's hard to fire a diversity hire... kinda like why employers are starting to avoid hiring people that use their pronouns on their resumes or applications: it's litigation waiting to happen.
Star Wars was intended as a modern myth. By killing off, undermining or ridiculing the mythical heroic characters and their accomplishments, they have disenchanted the golden goose, it now lays rotten eggs.
The sad part is that the fandom menace are holding out their hands towards the evil mouse, begging for more rotten eggs and trying to convince us all that they’re “akshually fresh.”
Until Mando season 3, people like TCD, doomcock, and others were singing the praises of Disney Star Wars via Rogue One, Mando, and Andor. What happened? Did the stench become too much for even *them* to bare?
"...now it lays rotten eggs."
Just like me
Well said
A space saga
Perfectly said. Boba Fett was not killed off, but the most feared, effective bounty hunter became a "crime lord" who does no crime whatsoever
Arguably the biggest issue with The Mandalorian is that it already ended. The finale of season 2 was perfect. We don’t need to know exactly what happened after Grogu went to train with Luke, it was a powerful enough ending to a story in its own right.
Yes, should have left the rest to imagination.
Apparently grogu was not supposed to be in season 3, they did reshoots after he was brought back too early in boba fett
strongly disagree. it didn't give the mandalorian enough closure on what will happen with the darksaber. the mandalorian's story is not just grogu being given to a jedi.
The other thing with the Mandalorian is that it's supposed to be more of a serial. It's heavily inspired by things like Jonah Hex, Renegade, Paladin and Usagi Yojimbo. It's supposed to be a slow burn that isn't pulling on your emotions all the time.
That said it was clear Star Wars was dead with Kenobi. If you're going to have more bad going out than good and treat your legacy characters like that the franchise has no hope of recovery. Dave Filoni saved Star Wars twice but he's not a miracle worker.
Theres a theory going around which i pretty much agree that Grogu wasnt supposed to be on season 3, and this season was going to focus on reuniting the mandalorians, but since it was decided he needed to come back, the script was rewriten and the season feels all over the place
When you don’t even hate something but stopped caring about it altogether is the greatest sadness …
100% The power to make a fan completely apathetic is a kind of super-power.
When you simply can’t be arsed with her…no matter how fit she is.
Star Wars is actually not a dead franchise....we can now flip the script upon the radical secularizing republican freemasonic Jedi seeking their universal republic without national distinctions.
The Empire are the good guys, despite the musings of Star Wars' authors: husband and wife.
“A time will come when the enemies of Christ will boast: “We have subjected the earth and all its inhabitants, and the Christians cannot escape our hands.” Then a Roman Emperor will arise in great fury against them"-St. Methodius
5th and final kingdom
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Opposite of love isnt hate it’s indifference
@@darylwilliams7883 If you're a writer, it's called and editor!!
I guess Disney bought the golden goose, and instead of waiting for it to lay the golden eggs, decided to cut it open and get all the eggs out.
Most accurate analogy I’ve ever heard
Clever statement
Yes, and you'd think this woke group at Disney would value something like "sustainability"!
they wanted to get golden eggs and instead all they got was goose shit
@@counterterror101 Yes, and we certainly have not seen any "foie gras" get served up from Disney lately. ;D LOL
Making social media addicts your target audience, hiring people who want to insert their fanfics in the franchise and suffering from huge instances of nepotism can kill a franchise?
Who could have imagined?
Lucas, probably. I'm convinced selling it to Disney was an intentional snub to be vindictive against all those "haters" he was so bothered about every time he released another shitty edit to his films
The mandalorian just blatantly giving up on the dark saber genuinely pissed me off. It would have been epic to see a mere bounty hunter ascend to possibly redeeming and reuniting his people but he flat out said “nah it’s the benches for me”
Yeah and then he has to decide his kingdom or baby Yoda.
Could be a hard emotional choice and make the series exciting
Did all that just to have it destroyed. Retarded af. Should have been Dins darksaber and maybe years down the line he dies and the darksaber is given to grogu. Imagine that a mandalorian, darksaber weilding grogu.
No tho, let's just break it
Its the fact that theyve already told the same story in star wars rebels is what pisses me off im gonna be honest who really cares and wants bo katan to rule mandalore? She already tried and fucked it up wouldve been so much better if in the end it came down to a 1v1 with the darksaber between the two with Mando begrudgingly accepting the darksaber and Bo Katan to learn to be a follower was teased so hard at the end of 2 and its mishandled so poorly in 3
YES. It was so lame...
Tht really disappointed me too.
Whenever your feeling imposter syndrome and have waning confidence in your own writing abilities, just remember that a professionally paid, multi-millionaire screenwriter wrote down the words "Somehow, Palpatine returned." For the final installment of one of the biggest hollywood franchises ever, overseen by the largest company in entertainment, and they went with it.
You know, that actually helps a little.
what an insult. you have a whole universe of sci-fi magic bullshit and you can't even bother to have any sort of justification as to why your antagonist is still alive? it's laughably pathetic. no wonder they wanted D&D to get their own movie, it sounds like they were in good company.
Star Wars is actually not a dead franchise....we can now flip the script upon the radical secularizing republican freemasonic Jedi seeking their universal republic without national distinctions.
The Empire are the good guys, despite the musings of Star Wars' authors: husband and wife.
“A time will come when the enemies of Christ will boast: “We have subjected the earth and all its inhabitants, and the Christians cannot escape our hands.” Then a Roman Emperor will arise in great fury against them"-St. Methodius
5th and final kingdom
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But how did he return? Why did he return? So many questions, its like a thing containing like mysterious and you want to open the thing and discover there are more things, lets call them boxes, containing more mysteries. It magical!
Or as The legendary droid f&)#%er put “mystery box bullshit”
That does, indeed, make me feel better about a multitude of questionable decisions I’ve made.
If only there was a plethora of books or novels that explored various compelling storylines in this franchise that could have been turned into interesting movies 😳
They don’t push the ‘message’ though
According to KrazzyKat this doesn't exist.😂😂😂😂
Disney will corrupt the books with strong female characters and the message. Just look at The Witcher has become
I would like to see an R rated movie inspired by some of the books. At that point, I don't know what they have to lose.
@@saberalter1586
What everything has become, basically.
It's really astonishing how they've taken something so beloved in my childhood and made me absolutely despise it and anyone who talks about it. Good job.
Every time I hear star war I get angered
Every time I hear star wars i think: what a shame, sigh and move on
"Let the past die, kill it if you have to." Jesus Christ how accurate that quote ended up being! So accurate that it killed the future too!
"Those who forget..." I can't remember the rest of it. But seriously, Goethe was so absolutely right. You might not like the past, but without it you have no foundation for the present or the future.
When I heard that in the cinema watching the Last Jedi, it was so fucking out of place, it didnt feel like Star Wars and worse, it was not a Luke Skywalker thing to say.
That movie was not good, and thats me saying it in a nicest way possible.
"Leave the past behind, kill it if you have to"
This is how I feel about Disney products.
Now that's something I may have to feel about Dr Who, since they announced that Disney is getting involved. The franchise has been in the toilet for years, and I quit watching, but this...I just don't know.
[EDIT: I am a Star Wars fan, but as a Brit, Dr Who meant a lot more to me.]
A very funny retardation.
yo! but I think we need to give Rian Johnson more credit for writing this line. I think he was foreshadowing exactly the kind of Star Wars fatigue we're all feeling now with the theme of killing the past. We're all just catching up to it now
@@elstcman5 I think you're onto something there.
That’s how I feel about grogu
If you had told me 30 years ago I'd grow up to hate Disney, I wouldn't have believed it. Now I just want them gone.
Disney doesn’t want to give the fans what they want, they want to give the fans what Disney has determined they should want. They’ll bury these properties in the ground and then blame the fans.
You should have stopped being a Disney fan when you turned 16... you manchild.
I saw Star Wars when it first came out in 1977. I loved it so much that I collected everything I could. If someone had said back then that it would turn into a sloppy, feminist agenda driven mess with second-rate special effects and horrible writing, I would have thought it utter nonsense.
It's not just "hate"......it's a lack of trust; which is worse than hate.
Whatever happened to the phrase "the customer is always right"?
Around 2016
My husband & I were about 10 minutes into an episode of The Mandalorian when he said, "This feels like the stupid movie you're forced to watch when you're in line to ride a rollercoaster at Disneyland."
The problem with these big franchises is that there are too many people involved in too many projects.
1 man has a vision, 10 men have a goal, 100 men make conflict.
The fact that their are so many different people working on each franchise means there is no vision or goal. How can there be when everyone has their own ideas and agendas.
but one women can create shit faster than those hundred man ever dreamed of...
But this was one woman's vision. So your made up saying is worth bupkiss.
A camel is a horse designed by a committee
Will Disney these 100 man at least had respect to each other and were able to create stories that don't contradict each other and together made a great franchise, but all it took was one wiman and it all went to shit.
Bringing back Grogu was the worst choice this show could possibly have made. The emotional beats around that were actually good. They had the chance to get back to mando being a formidable force without the constant toy adverts. Episode 1 of season 3 should have been filmed from the perspective of someone Mando was hunting, it should have been a horror film where their team slowly disappears like an Alien film.
Absolutely agree
They... kinda already did that, in the first Season, with the episode with the prison ship...
I agree. I didn't care for season 2, but I did like the emotional goodbye with Mando and grogu, and they immediately retracted it. The show seems lost and aimless, like they don't know where they want to go. Which, my guess, they dont.
And in my opinion it wasn't planned when they started writing the season
He serve no real purpose now, and sometimes seem static.
In my opinion Kathleen Kennedy forced the showrunners to replace it in the book of Boba Fett
Like a magnificent seven kind of story. It's too repetitive. Season 3 has to be ballsy it has to have stakes. There's no stakes in this show
"A prequel to a spinoff about a character who's already dead. "
That's a good line, can't believe its literal.
Andor 😂 but somehow it turned out to be good
And yet it’s the best Star Wars thing right now
Disney's sure riding that Rogue One goodwill for all it's worth.
@@Lonovavir Lets be honest they dont have riding of anything else.
And yet it's still peak.
Seriously, the old Jedi games have so much potential to become movies. The stories of the old republic and darth raven are on of the coolest stories in star wars.
but that would require them to make strong and compelling male characters.... and we all know that "the force is female"
i myself made peace with it that the closed i´m gonna get to seeing hk-47 in tv or movies was the droid in rogue one
Kyle Katarn
You mean (Darth) Revan? Better to not have Disney disgrace Knights of the Old Republic 1 & 2 as well at this point....those were the best Star Wars games alongside vanilla Star Wars Galaxies
@@Devilfish6666 yes after watching episodes 7 and 8 i´m scared of them discovering that they have a boatload of content they declared no longer canon that would make great shows/movies
No, the only thing that has proven successful, including Obi-Wan the series, which has 3x the viewers of the Mandalorian, is stories connected to the original Star Wars, meaning the Skywalker's. These random "super hero" characters don't sell. Star Wars is the story of Anakin Skywalker, and the rise of Palpatine. There are more than enough connected characters that can be developed.
"This is the heat-death of a franchise..." - Friggin brilliant quote.
Your reviews are more entertaining than the shows
Yep. They are so much more entertaining
I agree, his reviews are amazing, however i do some reviews too on my channel so hop over for extra entertainment (;
Sorry to be that guy but you made this comment literally a minute after the video was uploaded, you had barely started the video even if you were watching it at 2x speed
Agreed!
@Spacetrooper what are you on bro
"It's not about money. It's about sending a message."
I guess they took Joker's advice a bit too seriously.
Thats marxism for you.
@@taags Jesus Christ, there's always one! 😬🤦🏻♂️🤡
it's about sending *THE MESSAGE*
t's a free market. Nobody can force audiences to watch Transformers part 2,3,4,5 etc. or Matrix Part 75 or the Star Wars sequels or prequels. A lot of these movies are crap, but audiences lap them up.
The fact is that mass audiences have low standards and are used to watching big budget special effects with little sense and non-existent storylines. That's why sequels do so well in the first place; audiences are to lazy for originality. Why are you watching Star Wars part 55 anyways? Go watch something new and original like Star Wars was in 1978! Audience is not part of the problem- the audience is the entire problem! Instead of whining about Star Wars part 10,000 the Critical Thinker should be pointing us in the direction of new, original storylines and movie making!
It's a free market. Simply stop watching crap the big corporate capitalist studios put out. Improve the quality of demand and the quality of supply, put out by capitalist corporate studios will change automatically. Until then stop the whining.
@@khanchy You got it half right. A sequel to a movie doesn't automatically mean it is not original. You can have originality within a series. The problem is diversity hiring (hiring people based on quotas and firing those with merit but who are not minorities - basically affirmative action) the ESG companies (environmental, social, government impact of products taking precedence over whether the product is quality for customers - basically it is communism whereby the private sector is bullied into making woke products or else they get a low ESG score. Think of ESG rating as the same thing as the Social Credit Score but for businesses)...and the unions who can extort private sector by striking if they don't get what they want. (if pay is low the business has to move to country with low taxes or up the pay but it never ends because the dollar always gets weaker due to central bank constantly printing more money out of thin air and debasing it. So you need more dollars to buy the same things as the past before the dollar got weaker. Higher pay only grants you more dollars not more things you can buy with each dollar since businesses just raise the price of things to compensate for the central bank printing more dollars out of thin air. This is so businesses avoid giving things away for free. This devaluation of currency/dollars is known as monetary inflation and is the whole reason bitcoin was invented to park your wealth into a system where your wealth doesn't get robbed from you by central banks who just create money out of thin air, since bitcoin only goes up in value because it is finite rather than down in value which happens with your dollars.as.central banks keeping printing infinite amounts of.)
We didn't know how good we had it with the prequels.
They've *always* been good actually despite their obvious problems.
I would like to see Rose and Jar Jar elope.
The prequels had good world-building and story-telling despite what many consider to be subpar acting and dialogue.
In addition, the politics underpinning the movies were lost on the younger audiences while appearing overly simplistic to older audiences.
@@liamphibiaI have watched the films dozens of times, but I have yet to see all those "obvious problems".
Are they on some kind of hidden track after the actual movies? 🤔
This is pretty impressive on the “ how do you destroy something that everyone loves so much “ scale.
As a wise old woman once said: "apathy is death."
Apathy is death.
one of the wisest
I thought the same thing. but how could be possibly be thinking of a character from the EU? According to dear old KK- SW had no resource material as a reference point before the Sequel Trilogy lol so how could Kreia even exist? *rolls eyes*
One of the greatest characters ever made...
It's not apathy, it's fear. "Fear is the mind killer". They're so afraid of offending any of the 'special' groups that they produce only bland, safe, boring products.
“Apathy is death. Worse than death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds the beasts and insects.”
❤ Kreia. « It’s such a quiet thing, to fall. Much harder is to admit it. »
@@b.chaline4394 She’s probably my favorite Star Wars character. Her insights on both the Jedi and the Sith are great.
@@b.chaline4394 Wow. That's even better.
@@cyberdragon1922 She has so many great lines in that game; she might actually be the most quotable character in all of Star Wars.
You said it right there: "a formative experience". Disney doesnt want those, theyre antithetical to the transhumanism they desire.
Yep.
They are 90% soulless corporates wanting a money printer and 10% SJW/feminists propaganda makers.
To them every (shitty) film they want to sell is a mechanically created product.
Repeating predecessors/tropes and putting "cool"/cute things won't create a story but they *can't* understand that.
thank you someone had to say it, most the dummies in the world never even heard of transhumanism or think its sexual
From a formative experience to a formulaic experience.
I like you that made this 2 weeks before they decided to throw Lizzo into the Mandalorian. Perfect timing, even though we all knew it was dead long before.
I remember a lot of people being scared that Disney would ruin the franchise when they took it over, they were right to have been!
*cough* Rogue One */cough*
Same people had that reaction when Disney bought marvel
@@Miketz THATS ONE. ONE GOOD PROJECT, yippeeeee the joy
@@Miketz Well, I did not like Rogue One to be fair. I'm afraid that the only thing I liked since Disney acquired SW IP, is Jedi: Fallen Order game...
Tbf the prequels killed it.
Honestly the biggest red flag leading up to season three was Jon Favreau saying that there is no ending to the mandalorian planned, and that instead they are going to ride it as long as possible. There’s no worse death sentence for a show than to say we are going to milk it until it is dry, and then keep milking it because people love baby yoda
it's weird. I havee only seen cllips od it, and it feels like an Andor episode, so i'm wondering why in Mandalorian?
I think he said he’d like it to be 5 seasons long
"There’s no worse death sentence for a show"
That's not true. Most shows are made to make money, that's simply the reality of that business. He just stated what most other of his peer think and always thought.
You can go on with the episodic adventures (Star Trek TOS, TNG, Stargate SG-1...) if your writing and production keeps things interesting.
It's also a cultural thing. Usually in the UK, for example, a show has very few seasons and that's it, by design. In America it's simply different.
@@prince-solomon Mandalorian isn't really episodic like Star Trek used to be though. There's still a continuous storyline and quest running through the whole season and series.
That 3rd episode makes sense now. They were like: wth do we do now? Do we develop what we had set up? Nah let's bring Grogu back and get some Andor vibes in here, that'll work!
What's sad, is that Disney had tons of ideas available to them when they purchased the franchise. But NO! They toss the Canon away as 'LEGENDS' because they don't want to pay the authors any percentage of whatever they made from their books and stories.
The necessary end result of executives making and then parasitizing a purchase of IP they did not create.
To quote Ian Malcolm, "You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could, and before you even knew what you had, you patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox".
It's a well known fact that when all the anger and strong emotions in a failing marriage finally give way to indifference, that's when it's actually finally over.
GOOD POINT
Even worse is resentment. That’s not recoverable.
@@redneckgoatfarmer You know, it's interesting you mention that, 'cause I've also heard resentment is a "closing stage" of a dead marriage. However, I've heard it said that the reason why indifference is "more final" is that with resentment, there's still the presence of very intense emotions, albeit negative/unfavorable. And as it was explained to me, any emotion is the presence of some form of interest, trace amounts of caring, just flipped. Indifference means the well of emotions are totally dry. Zero to work with or bounce back from. But still, interesting.
It's never the same once resentment creeps in. It's rare to rekindle that spark you had. It's just done and over with. At least Disney has the fans it truly wanted noq.
@@redneckgoatfarmer no, apathy. Apathy is death. And Star Wars is going to see what happens when you piss on nearly 30+ years of generations of different fans, meanwhile the only ones who stay are people blinded by nostalgia or have made the bed and are now sleeping in it.
Damn shame they didn't have a small library of books to draw inspiration from
honestly 🤦🏽♂️
Ironic considering Favreau and Filoni have been bringing things in from all those "ignored" books.
Had the same point. Take a book , donot change anything and it'd be a hit.
Don't worry they will ruin those as well.
They know they have that, they just don't want to acknowledge it until they twist it enough to fit their own taste.
It was very clear at the end of S2 of The Mandalorian, that it was meant to be a two seasons show. Whatever they show in S3, it will only be remembered as a mix of corporate greed, and desperation to hold onto their only successful work.
I thought season 3 was by far the best. I didn't care for the first two at all.
Star Wars being dead help me realize how many other great franchises exist out there that are sci-fi and better than Star Wars in every single way, at least from start to finish.
We were about halfway through the first episode of season 3 when my girlfriend said, “I thought this show was supposed to be good”
Indeed
Lookit “ Mr. I have a girlfriend” over there.
@@johncstokes75
hgahahahahaha
@@johncstokes75 the dark side has supernatural ways
She’s a keeper
@@weswolever7477 She's a-maginary. 🤦♂😉😁
"We made a movie for the modern audience, which was rejected by the audience." - Disney's epitaph
The Audience proved insufficiently modern.
No, Disney made a movie for people on Twitter, who only live there because they have no jobs and no lives outside of it.
@@EnDSchultz1That's..basically been the response to everything that fails. Either the audience were too simple minded to grasp its brilliance, or it wasn't "white enough".
@@user-st1hd6qe7h I don't think folks realize that "gay, trans, etc" people don't automatically enjoy a movie just because of supposed representation.
That's like saying every non-vegetarian enjoyed Troll 2.
@@Shuizid yep...Hollywood also seemed to miss the point that replacing one female character stereotype with another equally irritating one, didn’t solve the issue around writing good characters and letting them have a story arc...but apparently if you don’t like the new stereotype then you’re a ‘toxic fan’ and it’s your fault the movie sucked
Y'know, I think I just realized something. Back in the day, people erroneously thought that genre films and series were for children. Then they became mainstream, and somewhat more mature and challenging, and for a while, reached a complexity and low-concept engagement that took a bit more investment in story and character development. At some point, it seems that studios realized that this meant their merchandise revenue was dwindling, but that, if they just pulled back their strategy to explicitly targeting everything at children, lowering complexity, making it merchandisable again, they could still suck out the grown-ups nostalgia while also making bank with the kids.
And that's where we're at now. Genre fiction is now more "for children" than it ever was, and in the worst possible way. Make no mistake, Star Wars in 1977 was eminently watchable by children, but it had at least some emotional weight and complexity to it that Disney wouldn't allow in modern iterations.
We don't see the gut wrenching impact of emotions of Luke walking up to his farm in flames and seeing the burning corpses of his family strewn out on the ground anymore. No, instead we get bouncy ball robots and cuddly space gunnie pigs and baby yodas as a mere facade to sell us on a product the was settled a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away...
I would argue what they make now is only for fools. It is the low quality fodder for the lowest common denominator. Who could still do better and have far more options anyways.
I knew it was going to suck when Disney first announced the purchase and they started talking about having their own canon. ‘New canon’ is an oxymoron that takes a certain degree of arrogance to try to establish. They alienated a huge chunk of their fanbase from day one
Hmm, was JJ aware of that? SSDD and goodbye to Star Trek.
The EU wasn't any better than what Disney did. IMO both need to be consigned to the dust bin.
Disney after realising that they don’t have to improve on Star Wars because people will eat them up anyways:
Pretty much😂
Gamefreak with Pokémon:
Disney is taking Star Wars from its historical fanbase and giving it to the Disney fanbase.
@@XParasiteOctoling can’t wait for Star Wars to be making the exact same content for the next 30 years.
Piggies do love their slop and Disney keeps chucking it out.
Remember: There is no such thing as "Too Big to Fail".
Go woke...
Mediocrity can destroy anything
@@j.desoto5870
Get broke
@@D_an_ Mediocrity is the new normal now
The bigger they are the harder they fall after all.
It hurts when something that used to give you memories becomes a memory. Chapter 1 made me feel like 8 again:(
Bill Burrs scene with the imperial officer is the best thing to come out of a modern live action Star Wars project.
Agreed.
And Burr isn't funny.
To me, the biggest nail in the disney trilogy's coffin was that despite managing to bring back the original cast after 30 years and not having all three of the main human characters meet was just unacceptable.
That was the bare minimum for me when i learned that Luke, Leila and Han were returning.
It hurts to even think about it now… Hamil, Ford and Fisher…, How like how on this earth do you screw that up soo bad. Even Lando for the matter.. Shoehorning him in the final film was terrible.
@@Van-yy9df agreed that is just mind baffling 🤷🏾♂️
Shocking incompetence that will surely be talked about for years. Imagine a Harry Potter sequel trilogy years later...and Ron, Hermione, and Harry never meet. Ludicrous
@@jimbody1448 lordy, don't give em any ideas!😳
Nothing made me sadder, and now losing Carrie means they can never undo it :(
Disney as a company has burned so many bridges over the years that actors, directors and VFX companies have started avoiding them like they were some sort of plague of unspecified origins.
One of the giants is slowly dieing. and it's hilarious to see.
We've been so subverted that we cheer when one of America's largest cultural landmarks begins to die. We are so actively engaged in destroying ourselves because the leadership has been corrupted, we do it happily. I wonder what we will create to replace everything?
They're the film equivalent of EA. Latch on to a franchise and its associated company behind it, suck it dry, and move on to the next meal, like the Aliens out of Independence Day.
Lucasfilm was the same way: an utterly toxic environment. If anyone dared question Lucas, they were fired. Many famous Hollywood writers (including Kevin Smith and M. Night Shamalayan) have talked about their awful experiences with Lucasfilm and its soul-crushing creative processes.
@@derkeheath5172 M. Night and Kevin Smith have to be the worst examples possible. But yeah, very similar ego trip with one difference in that at least Lucas makes up his mind, with Marvel it's just constant changes up to the last minute.
To put this into perspective.
I am playing KOTOR 2 again to actually enjoy a well written Star Wars story.
KOTOR is a masterpiece of dialogue, especially in regards to Kreia challenging our notions of the world.
I recently reread the Jedi search trilogy from the 1980s IIRC. I still wonder why something like these stories weren't made into movies into the (IMO) horrible prequels and sequels since Disney took over.
Then why are you playing KotOR 2? KotOR is the one with the well written Star Wars story.
KotOR 2 is full of so much stupidity and terrible railroading.
@@LOL_GarrusKreia is an idiot and the writers never let you point out her obvious stupidity. She is one of the tropey Obsidian characters I cannot stand. New Vegas had them too and I couldn't stand New Vegas for that either.
I'm not a gamer but I've just pulled Heir to the Empire off my bookshelf for the exact same reason: I want to enjoy Star Wars with all its amazing characters and storylines, the way it used to be.
Having grown up on Star Wars and Star Wars media in almost every form, watching the decline of my favorite fantasy series is incredibly depressing.
Same. I grew up wanting to be Leia and fly and X-wing and now... What it's become is just so much noise.
That's the craziest thing to me. If Disney looked beyond "We can use the original actors one last time!" and took to a distant part of the timeline or the universe they could have had almost carte blanche to go as crazy or weird as they wanted and people would have ate it up. The problem is that they thought they were going to spin off the originals in the worst way.
The problem here is that Star Wars wasn't a fantasy series. It was a Sci Fi series. It was turned into a fantasy series by writers who don't know how to do anything beyond D&D crap.
What is simultaneously funny and sad, is that there existed an entire library of source material to mine, but Disney threw it all away.
Impossible.
The archives must be incorrect.
Can you imagine if they did that to marvel when they first took over?
The problem is the wokening happened with star wars. The Wokening isn't just one thing but all the worst elements in entertainment industry broiled into a single toxic sludge. You get directors/writers with massive egos who think they can write something better and greater than the original but lack any talent in actually doing so. Often making changes that completely undermine the actual story and plot. Like how they're re-writing Peterpan to have the Lost theys because the lost boys wasn't inclusive enough. And for a reason, being said that girls were too smart to get lost like boys did.
You get The Message crammed into your face every second of the piece of entertainment with the subtlety of two by four being rammed straight between the buttox. You get corporations digging up the corpses of your childhood to try and make them sing and dance once more in hopes to draw more money out of your pockets but all they succeed at flopping have decomposed rotting flesh bags across the stage and then screaming at you to pay them.
@@ridensroom6957 They practically are now, adapting only what already is the message. And then filling it with so many "jokes" that even the Joker thinks its too much.
@@alchemystudiosink1894 you're right. I mean, they even called the first movie The Force AWAKENS, for God's sake! Don't think that particular wording wasnt very intentianal . They probably thought it was very clever and meta too, the idiots.
"The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy."
I'm a pathetic.
That is an awesome quote, where is it from?
@@tacosunbirth A lot of sources attribute it to Elie Wiesel, a writer and holocaust survivor, but it seems to have been in circulation for the past hundred years in various forms
Disagree. Hatred can be way more destructive than apathy ever could.
Is it though? Apathy is neutral, love and hate are opposites on the passion scale.
That was one of Drinker's heartbreaking 'go away now.'
ryan Johnson looks like the type of guy to try to text your teenage sister or daughter on the low because he thinks hes sneaky enough, and JJ looks like the guy to defend him while he does it
i didn't know they were both Christian conservatives. TIL.
My thoughts exactly. Star Wars now feels like going back to a nostalgic location from your childhood, except the location has crumbled, forgotten, dilapidated, and all the friends associated with the memories of the place are either deceased, out of contact, not seen in over a decade, or live too far away. Modern Star Wars gives me THAT feeling. Such a feeling of emptiness and absolute carelessness for the franchise. It's time for them to close the damn book while they can - before it gets even worse. If that's even possible.
You forgot to mention that the location is now home to a pack of race grifting hyenas.
Perfect analogy.
I disagree with Drinker on one point only. The appearance of Luke. Baby Yoda won't be trained by Tano. He uses the Force to mass text any other Jedi out there. Who in that era is left to train him? Who? Oh wait, basically just one person. And if there was some doubt in your mind what was going to happen next, when we all saw that X-Wing fly in, you're a f**king dullard. Some people super fans cried. I'm a super fan, but I didn't cry. I pointed at the screen and said, "Yup. This is what we all wanted and it's fantastic. Eat bantha foodoo, KK." Drinker is wrong. His arrival was set up and was foreseeable. Fight me.🤘
Watching this crap feels like I’m looking at a copy, of a copy, of a copy, but it’s filled with annoying woke BS throughout, just to make things worse. Disney can have it.
Underrated comment
Even Cavemen sitting around a fire 🔥 knew the importance of telling a good story-Disney forgot!
Because they're soulless, they don't want to give you a good story in exchange for your money. They just want to take your money, giving you absolutely nothing in return.
I remember when people in the '90s speculated about Disney's "hidden messages" in their animated movies such as Aladdin or The Lion King. Some said that Disney was satanic. Most people laughed.
Cue 2020's nobody's laughing anymore because it's quite clear that they are the devil in the flesh.
To be fair, Grug wasn't trying to sell a product to adult children with gaping holes in their souls.
@@higgsbonbon Grug was gaping the children himself.
I felt exactly the same way watching the last episode. I honestly don't know what are they thinking. It's like an adventure created by a noob DM for D&D. What the hell are Jack Black and Christopher Lloyd doing in that mess??!
As a noob DM, I disagree, my players made better characters.
@@miguelcondadoolivar5149 Lol, kudos for them!
It's crazy that Star Wars went from the best movies ever made to the worst. Like how do you mess up that badly?
"You made your bed. Now lie in it."
If only that were as bad as it was.
They Amber Hearded in OUR bed, threw a meth-party in OUR apartment, and we had to move out.
This got me. Thank you
A golden goose doesn't lay many eggs when all it's fed is SHIT.
it’s peculiar, there really seems to be an overabundance of wildly unqualified folks in positions of power & influence these days. i mean, people that you’d literally turn down to hire into a walmart door greeter position. yet the phenomenon persists, somehow.
Doesn't get more unqualified than Star Wars fans, though.
Them driving away the creator of the franchise was worse than anything Disney did.
It's genuinely shocking how clueless the fans are.
If Disney made the Lord of the Rings the same way they made the Star Wars Sequels:
The Fellowship of the Ring: "Here’s why the ring matters."
The Two Towers: "Here’s why the ring doesn’t matter at all."
The Return of the King: "Oh no it’s Smaug! Remember SMAUG?!"
Fuck, you're right XDDD
Rings of Power all over again
I read this in the voice of Mike from Red Letter Media.
Accurate description.
That's actually brilliant and spot on. May they never do it.
Kathleen Kennedy is directly to blame. She made awful hires at every level, allowed identity politics to color every decision she made, and alienated the few successful creators the franchise DID have (Filoni, Favreau)
Filoni is an enemy as well. He's as much as a diversity shitbrain as Kathleen Kennedy. The reason he got lumped in with Favreau is *because* he's in line with Kennedy's way of thinking, he's her little plant.
@griffy ye My dad never left. It was for milk and he will be back any day now.
F and F are clearly overrated.
And don't talk to me about Clone Wars.
The only Clone Wars I recognize come from Dark Horse comics and those 2d cartoon shorts.
Filoni and Favreau drop as much terrible Star Wars content as she has in her time, some of it worse. They are the most overrated people in SW Fandom.
Are you suggesting that boss batch female and their equal-to-men-strong-brave-leadership is … is ineffective? 🥺
This was both satisfying and dissatisfying at the same time. And it's already aging like fine wine.
CORRECTION!
The Age of Disney Star Wars is over; the Time of Indie Star Wars has come.
Legends never die. We are one with the Force and the Force is with us.
Unfortunately, Lucas didn't like the EU
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul Well, neither does Disney, so it doesn't matter much either way
For me the moment that made me groan and realize the series was dead was in BOBF when they make it pretty clear that The Mandalorian's new ship is the Naboo Starfighter. The n-1 is cool, but why would he own it? The Razorcrest was his office, home, and ride all in one. It made sense for a character like him to own. Going from the Razorcrest to the N-1 is like a contractor going from a pickup truck to a coup.
I agree. It was a BOUNTY HUNTER'S place of business.
With the N-1 he's going to have to find lodging everytime so that'll leave a nasty paper trail that may come back to bite him
To a Prius.
Truth-maybe even a motorhome to a coupe, honestly-I mean, can you imagine living in that tiny little cockpit-I haven't actually started watching season 3, but thinking of spending hours jammed in there (or days, I guess) gives me the screamin' heebie-jeebies.
To be fair he hasn't done any bounty hunting for awhile and just has been on a journey to reclaim his status so the N-1 works for now. It feels as if it keeps leading him away from being a bounty hunter
If Disney and Hollywood can write their own fanfiction, then so can we. Seriously... Some of the things I've read that fans have written (not necessarily in this fandom) are incredible and would have made much better stories.
Concur. The ineptitude of the big studios has been a godsend for us smaller content creators.
Why do you think Wattpad exists?
You mean like the great epic like the Star Wars Fart Wedding? czcams.com/video/UxKojvQqI0g/video.html
Eckhart'sLadder and co. have produced content *WAY* beyond the stuff that Disney ever has! I.E. "Battle of the Dreadnoughts", a short film about a duel between a Mon Cal dreadnought and the Eclipse II then I'm really hoping Eckhart will expand on. Not to mention the works of FractalSponge and EC Henry, et al.
@@shocktrapproductions6332 exactly! Some of these shows and stories should’ve stayed in wattpad. AO3 is better anyway. 🤣
Star Wars Fans: How can it possibly get any worse?
Disney: Bend over Star Wars fans, let us show how much worse it can get.
KK: Gooood, goooood let my hate for men flow through you.
"Is it possible to ride a Polar Bear into Battle??
......wait, what???"
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
“the opposite of love isn’t hatred, it’s apathy”
@@TapiKoks what....
@@TapiKoks im 14 and this is deep
"Apathy is death!"
- Kreia.
Pretty sure it is, though ^^
the opposite of apathy is interest.
But I get your point
Correct
I remember being so excited to see the force awakens & I literally remember thinking to myself “this is a historical moment, this is the first Star Wars movies in decades” and after the credits rolled I remember feeling hollow and empty over the whole experience.
I had that same excitement for Phantom as a kid. Despite the flaws, I can still look back fondly on the experience.
I'm sorry Disney stole that from you.
TFA isn't too bad. The problem is, that TFA tried to build up for a trilogy, but the next movie ignored all the setup. There was at least potential in TFA that unfortunately wasn't used...
Revenge Of The Sith is better than TFA and TPM. CHANGE MY MIND!
@@heidtb6746 TFA was AVERAGe
@@heidtb6746
TFA was below average, at best.
Did I miss the episode where the Mandalorian's parents were killed? I mean, it's Disney. It must have happened right? We're getting pretty close to Grogu doing a song and dance with a Jamaican crab at this point.
your Editing Genius when you cut to Tyrion got me like
“Is it possible to ride a polar bear into battle?”
Well, according to Narnia & The Golden Compass, I’d say pretty much.
Dunno about ride but there was that polar bear that served in the polish army battalion.
@@alexshinra6722
It was a regular bear, not a polar bear. Wojtek.
@@_Dovar_ mah man it aas mecha bear.
A CGI polar bear maybe
Wasnt the ice queen riding a bear chariot instead instead of one bear
“This is what the heat death of a franchise looks like …”
Better writing than Disney Star Wars ever did.
This. I thought it was very poetic.
It’s sad. I use to love Disney. 2008 I spent thousands of dollars to travel to Florida with my girlfriend, Stay at one of their top end hotels. We had a great time. In a few short years I don’t even watch the movies/tv shows. Before I went on the trip I got a biography on Walt. When he had his very first successful cartoon short (3 little pigs) everyone kept asking him to make another 3 little pig cartoon. He would say “you can’t beat a pig with a pig”. He always wanted to innovate, Not just recycle the same story. I wonder what Walt would say about his company these days.
The infant green goblin may have seem like a nice addition, but ultimately it was doomed to never go anywhere.
The best they could do with baby yoda was ditch him halfway through.
But they never did.
Bravo Disney, It takes real talent to butcher the biggest franchise in entertainment, a massive budget and a vast amount of lore!
Despite this Kathleen Kennedy still has not been fired.
She must s-ck a mean D.
It's intentional sabotage. She hasn't been fired because she is excellent at her role. Remember they want us broken, owning nothing, eating bugs, and happy about it. Believe it or not to achieve this requires killing everything we love. Disney are playing their part as the propaganda machine they have always been.
Georges Lucas butchered it WAY before that with Return of the Tesdy Bears, the " Special Additions" that got rid of the originals, the unwatchable prequel trilogy. People act as if Disney had ruined something great. Star Wars has been garbage for over 40 years. Only their first two movies were good. But they were so good and so endearing that we can't get pass them and keep hoping for that magic to return. It won't. It can't. The problem is more with us now than it is with any of the creators behind it.
Women only fail up, she can't go any higher so until the company itself dissolves she will be a permanent fixture.
@@plastique45 nonsense. Sheer, indefensible nonsense. You would seriously blame the fans instead of Disney? I need say no more.
As an Italian I want to say thanks to you drinker for keeping me entertained and teaching me English at the same time
Do you speak with a Scottish accent now?🤔
Congrats!🎉
Don't learn Ainglish from the Drinker, nobody will be able to oonderstand it.
@@frankgesuele6298 Lmao
@@Baelzar Except for Tatiana! Ha HAH!
For me the Rise of Skywalker was the final nail in the coffin. I simply didnt even care about what they made with this corpse of a franchise.
The Luke reveal was perfect. They built up slowly, with a trickle of teasers for fans who would know what they meant. And then revealed Luke. Few lines, because they were acknowledging the limits of their tech, and then he left. Absolute masterclass.
And then they ruined it.
yeah i dont know why he said it doesnt make sense. the baby is the only force sensitive character since ROTJ, why would Luke NOT show up? It was so amazingly made too, down to the music and like you said few things to say cause it wasnt necessary. then they went SIKE! we still need the baby with the Mandalorian so never mind the training. Whats the point of pulling a rug under the best scene in decades? Not bothering with the show now.
@@CarSVernon Right. It made perfect sense. In this era, Luke was the one building the Jedi Order so he was the obvious (and frankly only) legitimate choice to save Grogu. And the overall scene/ episode was very well done. But the decision to drop the storyline so quickly after a 2 season build was another reason that fans got upset.
They are just like those villains who like to build up hope on the heroes, just to crush it and savor the look of terror and desperation on their faces. Or so they say.
They're not even trying to make any profit from the franchise at this point. They simply want to demolish, destroy and reduce everything George Lucas had built into ashes.
Glad you liked it. To me the Luke reveal is what killed my interest in the series.
Luke was literally a digital Token, if this is enough to impress you, don't lie.. You probably enjoyed the last trilogy, you are just here because most of your entourage don't like it and you want to be "edgy" with them but in reality you are a NPC bro
I was a life-long fan. I was there in 1978 when it started. I don't care anymore. Well done Disney!
Same.
Same. Disney killed my love for the franchise. But at least Jedi Knight and KOTOR video games still exist.
@@JonathanGaeta🤦🏼♂️
I simply don't consider anything they make star wars there are 6 movies with a good ending. It's good enough for me.
@@Breedo Three movies.
It's not Disney's fault, it's either Bob Iger or Kathleen Kennedy
the message will be with you , always.
It's sad that this happened to a franchise that survived the Holiday Special and the Ewoks tv movies.
They had to way _decades_ before trying another TV project
Ewok Tv movies wer fun tho
Caravan of Courage is still better than Episode 2 and anything Disney put out 😂
@@itsfine9136👍👍👍
@@itsfine9136 Battle For Endor as well
"There is no emotion, there is peace." This is where we are.
All that tells me is that you have no idea what those words actually mean.
@@mpnuorva He knows exactly what he’s talking about
Peace is a lie, there is only Passion.
Looks like i wasn't the only one drawing that from the beginning rant 😄
@@DarthTagnan69 Through Passion, I gain Strength
The Mandalorian: One long screensaver. Love it!
I HATE that you're always right, but LOVE hearing it..
Remember when you were a kid and you found out that another kid you just met like Star Wars? That immediately made you best friends and started long arguments about who's cooler, Luke or Han. Even after the prequel trilogy my face would still light up whenever I heard the words. Now I just get this heavy guilty feeling whenever I think about it, like I watched a relative drinking himself to death and instead of remembering all the good times I had with him, I'd rather just not think about it because it's too painful. Thank you Disney for ruining yet another part of my childhood
Han. Han is cooler. There was never any argument there. If the other kid said Luke then they were weird and it was best to move on.
I don’t remember that because every kid liked Star Wars. Every adult, too. It was a given. This was in the 70’s and 80’s mind you.
You painfully encapsulated a lot of my thoughts and feelings towards Star Wars these days.
Remember the days when you could run around pretending to be force users on the jungle gym? Other kids running over to join in as they all wanted to pretend they could force leap. Those days were good.
@@namelessjedi2242 As 90s kid i can say that the same passion also existed during the prequel era, despite all the controversies on the internet the kids just loved them as much als the kids in the 70s and 80s loved the originals. But the sequels failed to get the next generation passionate about Star Wars and this is also what ultimately will lead to Star Wars just fading away with time.
Without a next generation of fans, every franchise will fall.
I member
To sit through a movie, and not give a damn if the main character(s) lived or died, is the death knell of the movie.
this franchise needs a Christopher Nolan's trilogy to get back to life.
I never thought I would get to a point where I actually dread new star wars announcements, but unfortunately that's exactly where I am. Every time they announce something new I'm just terrified that they will find a way to kill off another facet of the series I love. Even extended media such as books and video games now have me more concerned than excited... which is saying something cause I have played and love even the most janky-est of licensed star wars games(give me Episode 3 the game over fallen order or any EA sh*t anyday). It seems the only way to be a modern star wars fan is to never have been a classic star wars fan.
You have to get off the train that goes nowhere already, and fast.
Falling order doesn't suck, p@#$$
It is so sad. I was a kid when Phantom Menace came out (it hooked me up in Star Wars immediately). I remember how much hype there was for episodes II and III. It was not just a movie, it was something different. Years passed, new Trilogy came... such expectations, so much hope, so much trust. Force Awakens was so confusing. When I walk from Cinema I couldn't understand why it was basically awkward remake of New Hope. But there was still hope. There was still expectations. I go to cinema for a Last Jedi. I never experience something like that. It was not that I didn't like the movie. I active hated it. It was like they spit in my face. I didn't go to the third one. I didn't watch any of a Disney series. Star Wars was death to me the moment I leave the theater after Last Jedi. And it wasnt easy for me. I loved that franchise. They killed it. I will never forgive them.
I was a kid when the original Star Wars came out, and I tried watching The Phantom Menace but it was such dog shit it turned me off every other Star Wars vehicle.
@@chalkandcheese1868 At least George Lucas was still in control of the franchise. Sure, the dialogue was choppy, but the prequels are as authentically Star Wars as the OT. Everything Disney makes is a cheap imitation of the old magic. So many more people are appreciating the prequels now because of Disney's bastardization with the sequels.
@@mojomac6592 I watched The Phantom Menace a few weeks ago for the first time in years and I was shocked at how bad it was. It got just about everything wrong. It didn't even have cool machines (essential for good science fiction) and that stupid little kid attacking the space station saying weeeeee! Just embarrassing. I think the major problem was George Lucas got far to invested in modern (at the time) computer graphics technology, he thought the look of the film will blow everybody away, but he forgot about everything else.
@@mojomac6592 The dialogue was not 'choppy', it was pure shit like everything else in the prequels. And people are only 'appreciating' the sequels because Gen Z is full of retards who'd eat their own feces if you infused it with enough nostalgia.
@@chalkandcheese1868 Look the Phantom Menace had its problems but it was not a bad movie by any stretch. It was flawed, but it felt like a Star Wars movie. That was the Prequel Trilogy in a nutshell, flawed for many reasons (George Lucas having too much control compared to the OT) but they felt like Stars Wars movies and there was definitely a sense of passion in the development of the films, particularly the world building and the plot was okay particularly when it all wrapped up by Episode 3. The Sequels felt like empty vassals by comparison, they didn't feel like Star Wars movies, the plot in them was terrible and they blatantly ruined the OT heroes to make way for identity/minority characters who were not interesting or particularly likeable. They also ignored all the work of the Expanded Universe as if over 20 years of writing material expanding the Star Wars universe never even happened.
Rule no.1 of screenwriting: don't be boring. Almost as important: make your audience feel something - shock, horror, relief, anger, happiness, anything, but make 'em feel.
Rule No. 2: Don’t make them feel shocked, angered, or horrified because of how bad your production is.
@@cr1ym unless you're Neil Breen or James Nguyen, in which case that's your selling point.
I feel amused watching Disney get knocked down a peg. Does that count?
So bad that watching Chewbacca take a sh@t more interesting.
regarding the "make your audiences feel something". the most obvious way to do so: have characters that people can relate and care about.
I mean, it's (obviously) not just a coincidence that the characters of the original trilogy (at this point: even side characters) are still being dragged out again. because a lot of really liked and like these "people".
I really liked the end of Mandalorian, surprisingly piecefull scene at the end... I just hope they let it rest like this.
To quote Pink Floyd about the Star Wars franchise, it has "become comfortably numb." It has not only left me numb but absolutely comatose.
I’m a college student who drives for dominos pizza, I can confirm my manager Tim is actually a great leader who cares about us employees. I’m so thankful I have Tim and not The wicked witch of Star Wars.
I drove for Dominos as well a few years back. Honest work, you were paid to be efficient, you had a lot of independence, and the crew you worked with from the GM down to the newest driver - the people that stuck around longer than a week, anyway - seemed to understand that the business lived or died by everyone giving a shit about the job instead of just marking time until your shift was over.
In all sincerity, it was a pretty great job.
Storytelling is becoming a lost art. In Star Trek: The Next Generation episode The Inner Light, Picard finds himself on another planet married with friends and a community. He raises two children, grows old, loses his wife and a close friend, and has a grandchild. In less than forty minutes the creators have woven a tale where I care about what happens to people who have just been introduced while other TV shows can't seem to get me to care about their characters in an entire season.
Legit man. All this shit is inspiring me to make my own movie. The whole "be the change you wanna see in the world" deal.
That’s because they are not characters anymore. They are vessels for the message.
So true. The quality of writing has declined precipitously over the past 10 years to the point where haven’t watched network TV since 2019 (exception later). Probably 5 years ago I started rewatching TNG on Prime and that episode (The Inner Light) really stood out in my mind. It was a great call for you to remember it and compare it to anything Star Wars, big budget movies included, in the past 10 years. In fact after TNG I moved on to DS9 (which I watched only occasionally in its first run, it just didn’t “catch” me) and then Voyager (really hacked me off Prime’s ST contract expired while I was in the 4th season), which I finally just finished using the free Paramount+ we got for buying TMobile internet service. Ghosts and any Taylor Sheridan show not called The Mayor Of Kingstown are also quite engaging. Anyway, I’d say ANY post 1980 Star Trek show other than Enterprise is better than anything on TV since…2000?
“Corollary”: It’s been much of this century that I’ve wondered how much of the movie fare gets green lighted. Many will start well but fall apart after the first hour or so. I’ve heard that it may be because a script submission is only so many pages long. Getting the green light may be somewhat of a surprise because turning from story to a conclusion is often a horrifyingly painful, disappointing and surprisingly poorly thought out proposition. Again, poor writing.
Or yesterday's Enterprise. They got us to care about a love story between two characters who would not go beyond that episode.
I cared about Al Bundy. A man worn down by a useless wife, a brat for a son, a half-wit blonde but loveable daughter and annoying neighbors. I cared for Al because he took abuse from unhealthy plus sized women at the shoe shop where he worked. I cared for him and his fellow shoe salesman Griff. As for Disney, I can't care less.