REL Acoustics How To: Before you Connect Part 1, Determining Your Connection Method
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Different system require different connection methods.
1. For Stereo system we recommend connecting to the High Level input but the Low Level input works as well.
2. For Theater Systems we recommend connecting to the High Level input and the LFE input.
3. When High Level connection is not possible we recommend connecting to the Low Level input.
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I met Richard Lorde in the early 90s when I lived in Bridgend. He was operating from his shed at home before setting up his business on North Rd, Bridgend IE. I ended up with a Stadium 3…still working well in my ATMOS system. RIP.
Very interesting having just won a Rel t5i, and it has just arrived at my front door, direct from Bridgend in Wales
If you are using two subs in a home theatre mode are you connecting both subs to both left and right taps ?
i have a rel q200e, but since i moved, there is only bass one meter from the opposite walls, as i have a more or less square room, about five by five meters...same goes for the bass from the later purchased kef q7 main speakers...i guess this only works with having the couch set up against the back wall (or having a long rectangle room), but then my tv is to far away...the length of the sine wave of the bass tones is probably too long for a room like mine, or they cancel each other out in my sitting position.
In home theatre mode are we connecting to the left and right channels high level only and is there any merit in connecting to the Center channel.
Thanks for the video series. I have an older model Rel Strata II (purchased mid '90s) and have recently upgraded my receiver. Could this model sub-woofer be suitable for the High level input connection and the LFE as this video explains? Cheers Dave.
Dave,
That model doesn't have separate High Level and LFE circuitry. YOu're gonna have to upgrade or pick one or the other. The Strata 2 was designed before Surround Sound and DVDs even existed.
Great subwoofer and awesome info, thanks.
I have a Rel Quake added to a 5.1 system and this works really well, using both high and low level connections to the amp. The Quake suffers from intermittent hum, even when the amp is off. I have replaced the low level AV lead, and installed a mains conditioner. This seemed to do the trick for a while but the Quake is humming again. Would the T5i be the best like-for-like replacement for the Quake?
Thank you for reaching out, and we are sorry to hear about the issues which you are experiencing with your Quake subwoofer. The T/5x subwoofer is the closest current comparison to your Quake, with the T/5x having replaced the now discontinued T/5i in our lineup. If you have any questions about the T/5x, then feel free to reach out and we will be happy to assist.
I had a nasty ground loop hum after hooking up my T9i. Through some research online, I was able to trace it back to my Cable Box and the coax line. I purchased a $16 ground loop isolator from Amazon and the hum is now gone.
I am comletely new to the domain of subwoofers - just got my first somewhat decent stereo system (Cambridge Audio CXA80+a pair of KEF LS50's). I use this very same system to watch movies and to listen to music through Tidal, Spotify and some local lossless files.
Knowing myself I say I will go through a lot of amps before I find the right one. Therefore, this video got me confused a bit. These stereo integrated amps either have a single dedicated sub out (which is an RCA) or a pre-out which is stereo RCA.
HOw would I connect a REL sub to either of these? The cable you use seems on one hand pretty special, on the other hand some amps do not have the dedicated sub out and I would be forced to use the pre-out. Where do I connect that?
I can't seem to find what class of amplifier your integrated is, but if you contact Cambridge Audio they can let you know. It may also be listed in the manual somewhere. The best connection method would be using the high level cable. For that you don't need a subwoofer or pre out and it's a superior option to both. On your amplifier it would connect to the same speaker terminals as you main speakers. There are some slight variations based on which class your amplifier is, but once you figure that out you can look up the right method here. rel.net/blog/2018-01-04/how-to/how-to-connect-my-rel/
Don't hesitate to reach out if you have any other questions.
Hello Rel! Questions please. Do you suggest going full range for movies/tv? Seems necessary if you are using the High Level input? if so, say for a Denon does this mean you need to set the speakers to large AND and do LFE plus main?
We do recommend running your main speaker channels full range for home theater listening, especially if you are using the high level input on your REL subwoofer. Within your Denon receiver, this means that the speaker channels will need to be set to large and the subwoofer output will need to be configured to LFE + Main.
do you recommend using low freq cutoff to the bookshelf if you having pair of rel for each front L/R? assuming, i still able to provide the rel with full freq spectrum using signal routing device in between. Is it better to have the bookshelf purely handling mid to high freq and rel on the low freq. some say that the mid is cleaner with LowFreq cutoff. what is your recommenation?
To get the best performance both from the subwoofer and from your main loudspeakers, we recommend sending a full-range signal to the bookshelf speakers, and then setting the subwoofer's crossover below where the speakers naturally roll-off in their low-frequency extension in your room.
Very helpful.
I just purchased the HT-1003 so I assume this does not apply to that one because of the lack of connections? Would you have any suggestions for getting the best out of the HT-1003? I'm getting an Anthem MRX540 receiver so the ARC room correction should work wonders I'm sure.
Congratulations on your new subwoofer! Since the HT/1003 only features RCA inputs it can be connected to the designated subwoofer outputs on your Anthem MRX-540. For tuning advice specific to your system, feel free to write in to contactus@rel.net and we will be happy to assist.
Great video
I just purchased a Marantz SR6013 receiver paired with my T7i. I was wondering if it's compatible, and would like to use the High Level input to connect to the Marantz receiver. If yes how would I connect it? i'm a noob when it comes to subwoofers/receivers. Thanks in advance!
Hello John, The T/7i can certainly connect via high level to your Marantz receiver. You will want to follow the standard high level connection method, but connect it to the front left and right speaker outputs on your receiver. Further instructions are available in this video: czcams.com/video/YIenhBQEtE4/video.html
Have you got any videos on how the Rel Arrow wireless works?
We do have a video on the Arrow Wireless, which can be found here: czcams.com/video/XAcKUlagXyU/video.html
Hello, John,
I bought a rel s/510 in stereo to a Chord ultima 5 power amp, high level interconnect. Red and yellow wire connected and inserted into the left channel +. (first pair of speakers) I have a Marantz SR 7013 receiver also connected to the same Relu RCA 1Lfe input. (second pair of speakers). Everything is ok with the stereo, but with the home theater, the sub is almost inaudible, very weak, I have it connected correctly. Thank you for any advice. Alan
Thank you for reaching out, and we are sorry to hear about the output issues that you are experiencing. Based on your description it appears that the lack of output is specific to the .1/LFE channel on the S/510, which is connected to your Marantz AVR. I would recommend going into the Marantz and confirming that the subwoofer output is set to "on", and that your main speaker channels are set to "large" or "full-range" within the receiver, which should help the subwoofer to get more consistent signal during both 2-channel music and home theater listening. If making these adjustments does not help to improve the subwoofer's performance in your system, then at your earliest convenience please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to assist with further troubleshooting.
I'm confused. I have a Musical Fidelity M2si , using l & r rca's from my sub out in back. L& R. Wheres the L& R input on the REL ? Maybe I cant use a REL..
Since the Musical Fidelity M2si is a 2-channel amplifier, we recommend connecting a REL subwoofer using the High Level input rather than the left and right channel pre-outs. The high level input uses a specialty cable that is supplied with the subwoofer for connecting to the same output terminals on the amplifier as your main speaker wire.
Hello Rel! I need your advice. I’ve got a 7.2 reciever with integrated preamp and a stereo amplifier. I connect T7/x to amplifier via High Level cord and, at the same time, to the receiver via .1 LFE connector. Is it ok?
Thank you for reaching out. The T/7x is designed so that it can be connected to using both the High Level input and the .1/LFE input simultaneously, and the connections that you described should work well.
If you have any additional questions about connecting the T/7x in your system, please write in to contactus@rel.net and we will be happy to assist.
Mixing T/x and Old Q series
Hi REL team,
I am planning to implement a REL 3D set up with the below options.
- A pair of T/9x subs for Left and Right (using High level connections and LFEs using splitter from one sub out). Will be used in both Home Theater & 2 channel Audio
- T/5x for Center Channel (high level only)
- A Pair of old Q108 subs (I already have these) , one for Side surrounds and one for Rear surrounds (using High level connections and LFEs using splitters from the second sub out)
Do you see any issues with the above setup?
Later I have plans to add 2 HT Subs for LFEs and all the T & Q subs will either use high-level only or will share LFEs will HT subs using splitters.
Please let me know if you see any issues combining T, Q & HTs in one Home theater system.
Thank You.
Thank you for reaching out, and for supporting REL Acoustics. The subwoofer options and configuration that you have described will work very well for use in a home theater system, and in our experience there should be no issue with combining Serie T/x, Serie HT, and Q Series REL models in the same system since they will be supporting different channels and performing different functions in this system.
@@RELAcoustics Thank you for clarifying.
Hi and thank you for all the videos...
I am a complete neophyte as far as sub woofers go but I was wondering 2 things: 1st: I was wondering, for who would use the low level input , should he also connect to the LFE (.1) as shown with the high level connected, for movies ? and 2nd, but this is where I might look very dumb, since the high level input allows for both the speakers and the sub-woofer to get the exact same signal at the same time, shouldn't the phase be already synchronized as opposed to a non high level input which might have a slight different timing ? And then if it's synchronized, shouldn't air pressure coming from either speakers or sub woofer be already automatically timed in phase ?
Thanks for any answer, if you have the time and if I can understand them...
By the way, on some other ground I read somewhere that the standby mode on some sub-woofers were only active for 220/240V market but not for the 100/110V. Is that the case ? And would that apply to the T/Zero ? Plus, is it a big deal if it's the case, or is it just an energy saving thing ?
Thank you again.
Alain
There are a lot of places along a chain where the phase can get wired inversely which is why we have a variable phase switch. All it's really doing is reversing polarity to match your speakers.
Hello,
Some advise please.
I have a pair of Roland DS90A active monitors and I use a Audioengine B1 bluetooth reciever which works well together. I have just got myself and REL T1 Sub and really want to get it connected but what are my connection option? I would prefer not to get a Studio controller just yet (the Drawmer CMC2 is about £200). So looking at best way to use cable connection first to save a few pennies!
Thanks
Hello Samuel, since the Audioengine B1 only features a single pair of RCA outputs, it will be necessary to use a monitor switching device so that these outputs can send to both your Roland monitors and the REL T1's Low Level Input. The Drawmer CMC2 will work well for this application, though there are some less expensive options that will serve the same purpose.
REL Acoustics. Could I not use a spitter cable - Phono to phone/XLR from one channel of the B1 to the sub and speaker? And if so which input on the sub? I know this wouldn’t be stereo sound, but would do for a while if doable. Until I get the Drawmer.
@@picsaintloup5953 Using an RCA y-cable will work well as a temporary solution, though as you mentioned this will result in the subwoofer only receiving signal from one of the stereo channels. For this application, use the Low Level RCA input on the back of the subwoofer. This will allow you full use of the subwoofer's crossover control for tuning its output.
Hi REL team,
Can LFE & High Level Connections be used at the same time in older REL models, like Q108 Mk2 ?
Thank you for reaching out. The Q108 Mk.2 subwoofer can be connected using both it's High Level and .1/LFE input simultaneously.
Mixing T/x & HT Subs?
Hi REL Team,
I have plans to add a HT 1508 to the mix of 2 T/9x & 2 T7/x using Y splitters as follows.
My AVR has 2 sub outs.
First sub out - to 2 T9/x using a Y splitter (in addition to the high level inputs from Left & Right channels )
Second sub out - to 1 T/7x (also connected to Rear Surround speakers using high level input) and 1 HT 1508 using a Y splitter.
There is another T/7x connected to the center channel using High level input only.
Will the HT blend well with rest of the T/9x and T/7x subs in my setup?
Also, do you see any issues with using splitters to split the subouts?
Appreciate your help.
Thank You.
Thank you for reaching out. In a home theater system it is certainly possible to use Serie T/x subwoofers alongside Serie HT models, and this approach allows for a more balanced system sub-bass output that is fast and responsive while also being dynamic and powerful. The High Level and .1/LFE connections that you have described sound correct, though you may find that it is not necessary to send LFE signal to all subwoofers in the system. If the LFE output sounds boomy and overwhelming no matter how you set the Level controls on the subs, then you could one at a time disconnect the LFE inputs on the T/x subwoofers until a more manageable output is achieved.
Hello, sir John!
I would like to buy a rel t9i and I would like to connect it to a Musical Fidelity M6si on high level mode. How to connect? Thank you very much for your time.
The audio line consists of Tv- Dac vincet 7- Musical Fidelity M6si-Kef r900.
My room is 4600mm× 3150mm with open balcon 1150mm ×3150.
Thank you!
Thank you for reaching out, and for your interest in REL Acoustics. In order to get the best possible performance from your T/9i, we recommend connecting it to your Musical Fidelity M6si using the High Level input. The red wire of the High Level cable can be connected to the right channel positive output terminal, yellow wire to left channel positive, and the black wire to the ground screw located on the amplifier's back panel.
Hi! A question. I got a little confused. Maybe a dumb question but when you talk about home theater connection, it applies to a 2.1 channel?. For example, I have a Hegel H190 and LS50 Metas. Should I connect the Rel to the high level option and the LFE to the H190 when using them as a HT with my TV or just the high level input?
Thank you for reaching out. We recommend connecting REL subwoofers using both their High Level input and .1/LFE input when used in a home theater system that utilizes an AV receiver/processor, which can process a separate LFE channel (for the REL's .1/LFE input) in addition to the signal from the main speaker channels (through the High Level input). Since your Hegel H190 is a two-channel integrated amplifier, and does not have a dedicated output for home theater LFE channel content, we would recommend connecting a REL to this amplifier using one of either the High Level input or the Low Level input.
Why is the high level connector is so long and bulky? You have a great compact subwoofer, I mean T-Zero MKIII, it has low depth and then you suggest to use that protruding connector? That's the place you haven't thought enough.
We use NL4/Speakon connectors for the High Level input on our subwoofers since they are locking connectors, meaning that they will not come loose during operation of the subwoofer. In addition, the NL4/Speakon connector is fairly unique in terms of home audio equipment, so there is less risk of users mistakenly plugging a line level signal (XLR or RCA) into the subwoofer's High Level input.
I have a Tzero MKIII. Can I use the high level input from my speakers if they are active speakers? 🤔
The High Level input on our subwoofers is only intended for use with passive speakers, where the High Level cable can connect to the power amplifier's main speaker output terminals. When using a REL subwoofer with active speakers, where the power amplifier is built in to the speaker's cabinet, it will be best to use the Low Level input connection.
Amazing one,indeed.I have an arcam sa 20 and whatfadale Evo 4.4.I would like to add a REL sub to it Any pros here kindly advise me how could I make it happen please?
Thank you for reaching out. The Arcam SA20 is a Class G amplifier, and we recommend using the following instructions when connecting a REL subwoofer to it using the High Level input:
- Red wire of the High Level cable to right channel positive.
- Yellow wire to left channel positive.
- Black wire to the ground screw, located next to the phono inputs on the SA-20.
Nice Sonus faber concertos you have right there.
Shame you dont have the original standards
When connecting to the high level input can you connect directly to the speaker as well?
The High Level cable for a REL can be connected either to the output terminals on the amplifier, or to the binding posts on the back of the speakers. As long as you are using reasonable quality speaker wire then either option will provide the same level of performance. That being said, connecting to the speakers is typically easier when using a stereo pair of subwoofers, since with a single subwoofer the High Level cable will need to reach to both the left channel and right channel speakers.
I dont have AV reciever for home theater but I watch movies and listen music on stereo amp. Should I then connect both high level and lfe to my stereo amp Audiolab 7000a? (I have pre out for sub)
Thank you for reaching out. Since the Audiolab 7000a is a 2-channel integrated amplifier, it will be best to connect your REL to it exclusively using the High Level input. The .1/LFE input should only be used alongside the High Level input when connecting to an AV receiver that separately processes the LFE channel found in home theater material. In the case of 2-channel integrated amplifiers like your Audiolab, the preamp outputs are passing the same audio information as the main speaker output terminals.
@@RELAcoustics thank you 🙏
Okay, you explained it but haw and where do I attach these to my amp? Demonstrate where to put the 3 wires and LFE on your amp.
Thank you for reaching out. The High Level input on our subwoofers is designed to connect to the main speaker output terminals on your amplifier, alongside your main speaker wire. Typically the High Level cable will be connected to the outputs on the amp that are also powering your front left and front right channel speaker output terminals, though there are some scenarios where you will connect to different speaker channels. In addition, the specific way that the High Level cable is connected will vary depending on the model of amplifier that you are using and it's output stage design. For High Level connection instructions specific to your system, please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to assist.
The .1/LFE input on REL subwoofers is far more straight forward, since it connects to the subwoofer output jack on your AV receiver or processor using a standard RCA cable. If you are not using the subwoofer in a home theater system or are not connecting to an AV receiver or processor, then you do not need to connect to the .1/LFE input on the REL.
My TV has a Digital Optical out only. I want to add a REL Sub woofer that will work along with my TV Speakers (no soundbars attached here, model Sony X80J). I want to know if I can use a Optical Toslink to analog converter and connect it to the REL .1 LFE Channel for movies. That way I can use the Hi level connection with my Music system and enjoy movies with the other LFE settings.
Thank you for reaching out. Unfortunately none of our subwoofers feature Toslink inputs, though an optical Toslink-to-analog RCA converter, can certainly be used for sending signal to a REL subwoofer in this system.
@@RELAcoustics Thank you for replying. I want to know if I can connect the analog output from tv to .1LFE input on the subwoofer.. hoping it wont destroy the input?
@@Satyajit_Dey If your TV has a line level analog audio output then you could use that for connecting directly to the subwoofer without a converter, though in this case we would recommend connecting to the Low Level input on the subwoofer rather than the .1/LFE input. Connecting to the Low Level input will allow you to use the subwoofer's Crossover dial for tuning it's output to blend with your main loudspeakers, whereas the .1/LFE input bypasses the subwoofer's Crossover filter.
@@RELAcoustics My TV only has a digital optical out and doesn't have analog line output sadly, that is the reason I am thinking of using a converter.
Good midday i am a proud owner of a rel s812 who is currently in repair.
Now my question is i have ath the back of the rel s812 2 inputs for the highlevel cable on stand in the other stand out which one of the 2 do i need to take when i put the rel immediately on my speakers thankyou for the maybe reaction
Thank you for reaching out. The S/812 features one High Level input jack on it's rear amplifier panel, as well as one High Level output jack used for daisy-chaining signal to a second S/812 subwoofer when stacked in a line array configuration. The input jack is the lower of the two SpeakOn/NL4 connectors on the S/812's amplifier panel.
Connected my pioneer av receiver to a rel s5 using jus the LFE only and i was disappointed wen i played back stereo music.. i then used high level an LFE together my god the bass was incredible.
Awesome! That's why we are always pushing the high level connection method. When connecting this way you get better timing but more importantly the signal the REL is receiving is the same signal as your speakers. It's kind of a no brainer once you wrap your head around it.
how do you set-up your amp to the best settings then? how to set the right crossover for LFE and do my main speakers need to be put on LARGE (even if they are small (Dali Ikon MK2)
you got it wrong, if using only LFE rca cable, you have to connect it to the low level input not .1 lfe input. Cheers.
@@yannicktube even if u hav high end satellite speakers, on the av reciever set the fronts to large and on subwoofer setting on the av reciever set subwoofer plus..crossover is on 100hz
So if its connected via both high level and LFE, wouldn't the sub get multiple signals at the same time?
When connecting using both the High Level input and the .1/LFE input, the subwoofer will be capable of receiving signal through both inputs at the same time. The High Level input will receive signal whenever your front left and right channel loudspeakers receive signal, while the .1/LFE input will only receive signal when there is LFE channel content present in the surround mix. Both inputs have separate Level controls, which allows for you to set each independently and prevents the subwoofer from becoming overloaded and distorting it's output.
Hi there, I am using Rel 1205 with Anthem Mrx 540 and it seems to be not putting much output above 80hz. I connected via .1Lfe to av receiver sub out with crossover behind the subwoofer set to max (lfe). When I switch the input from .1Lfe to red low level in behind the subwoofer the problem seems to go away. What is going on.
Thank you for reaching out. Both the red and white RCA input jacks on the HT/1205 are functionally identical, meaning that there should be no difference in frequency response from the subwoofer whether you connect to the red or white RCA input. When you have a chance, feel free to write in to contactus@rel.net with the serial number for your subwoofer and our service team will be happy to assist with troubleshooting and providing resolution options as needed.
Hello , great to see and learn from your videos all the great info on Rel subwoofers.
I have question , just received my new T7i. Sure and wanted to use with just standard Pioneer av receiver in both applications audio and video
I fallowed your owners manual and did connection with 30 foot cable you supplied me and High Level input.
After email your CS they said that I should it use this type of connection and only use RCA jack
I watched just about all of your videos and getting bit confused , you mention that first and most we should, use the HighLevel connection since will carry most information on HT movie track and also will seamlessly blend Video and Audio signals, so far great !
If I connect the Low signal input with RCA your other video says : it proper connection for : computer, tv, passive speakers and soundbar which none of them is what I intent to use it !
So how do I understand this ? She said in email that if I use the High Low input and cable you provided me with purchase I will more likely damage my subwoofer.
I do need someone to explain to me this better so I can understand how properly connect this sub to my exiting sytem
For now we my wife and I just looking at the piano finish nice peace of furniture haha,
Thanks you for any help you can give us.
Les
Hello Les, thank you for reaching out and we are sorry to hear about the issues which you are experiencing with your T/7i subwoofer. Based on your email correspondence with our service department you can use the High Level input connection with your subwoofer and amplifier, though it sounds like you are experiencing a ground loop hum when the black High Level wire is left disconnected. As a result, you will be able to use the High Level connection, though we will need to find a different way to establish a ground connection between your subwoofer and the amplifier. Emailing with our service team is the best way to troubleshoot issues like this, and a member of our team will be responding shortly to your most recent email to provide further troubleshooting resolution.
Interesting
has anyone connected a Yamaha R-N803D? waiting for delivery of my REL. It's not an AV amp but has subwoofer out. was wondering if I should use the high level and LFE...or not?
Since the Yamaha R-N803D is a 2-channel stereo receiver, we recommend connecting your REL subwoofer exclusively using it's High Level input and cable. Doing so will result in improved performance compared to the RCA sub-out connection. The R-N803D is a Class A/B amplifier, so you will be able to use the standard High Level connection method as outlined in the owner's manual for the subwoofer.
Hi level
So with Kef ls50 wireless active speakers there is no way to connect HLI?
Hello, unfortunately there is no way to connect to the KEF LS50s via high level. The high level connection requires an amplifier with speaker output binding posts. You can connect the LS50s to a REL subwoofer with the low level connection and achieve excellent results.
REL Acoustics But what about the rels that have both left and right low level input? Just use one of them?
AWESOME!
Hi when using the hi level cable , and lfe cable you say set the processor to large but what needs to be done if the front speakers are not suitable at this setting im using m&k s150 as fronts
Thanks
From what we can find in M&K's literature, the S150 should be capable of receiving a full-range signal without damaging the speaker. However, if you wish to bandwidth limit your S150 speakers then it will be best to connect your REL exclusively using it's .1/LFE input.
Hi there, I am using Rel 1205 with Anthem Mrx 540 and it seems to be not putting much output above 80hz. I connected via .1Lfe to av receiver sub out with crossover behind the subwoofer set to max (lfe). When I switch the input from .1Lfe to red low level in behind the subwoofer the problem seems to go away. What is going on.
Hi there, I am using Rel 1205 with Anthem Mrx 540 and it seems to be not putting much output above 80hz. I connected via .1Lfe to av receiver sub out with crossover behind the subwoofer set to max (lfe). When I switch the input from .1Lfe to red low level in behind the subwoofer the problem seems to go away. What is going on.
You will be best either emailing rel or message them via CZcams,
From what you are describing are the settings correct on your anthem 540 .
I use arcams av40 and set the crossover in that around 100-120 hz so more lfe is being delivered to the sub , also my rel t9i works slightly different to your subwoofer
When contacting rel just explain your system and explain your problem, im sure they will point you in the right direction
I own a Naim System with a NAC 552 preamp, a NAP 500 power amp and two Ovator S-800 speakers. My dealer sold me your No. 25 sub, but for more than three years, has not answered my question if I can connect the Naim NAP 500 to the high level input of the REL, he claims the Naim amplifier design might not be compatible but has not given me a definitive answer, so I have been running wirelessly, which is, frankly, underwhelming. Can YOU answer my question?
Thank you for reaching out. It is possible to connect your pair of No.25 subwoofers directly to the Naim NAP 500 using the High Level input, though many Naim amplifiers have a unique output design which takes the impedance of the main speaker wire into account for the amp's output loading. This is why many Naim amplifiers require the use of Naim's proprietary speaker wire. As a result, in order to connect High Level directly to the NAP 500 it will be necessary to use the Naim version of our Bassline Blue High Level cable. The Naim Bassline Blue was designed with the help of engineers at Naim, and allows a REL subwoofer to be safely connected High Level directly to the amplifier.
For more information on connecting High Level to your Naim NAP 500, please write in to contactus@rel.net and we will be happy to assist.
Make sure u set to large on av recievers
I got told to set them all to small
Is it possible to Connect an antimode dspeaker 8033 s2 with the high level i put? I just connect it with the low level input but rel always Suggest to use high level. Thanks
Thank you for contacting us. Since the DSpeaker Antimode 8033 is a DSP equalizer with line level outputs, the best way to connect a REL subwoofer directly to this device will be using the Low Level input or .1/LFE input. However, if the outputs on the Antimode 8033 are feeding signal to a power amplifier (which would also be powering your main loudspeakers) then the REL could be connected using it's High Level input to that amplifier.
but i'm not sure how i connect to my old amp 2 channel ?
Feel free to write in to contactus@rel.net at your earliest convenience and we will be happy to provide connection instructions for your system.
So, do I understand correctly, I should connect to the low level input if I am using a computer or DAC with a headphones out jack?
Thank you for reaching out. The Low Level input on a REL will be the best option for use with line-level outputs that don't have a crossover applied to them. If you have any further questions about connecting a REL to your system, then feel free to write in to contactus@rel.net and we will be happy to assist.
@@RELAcoustics what I understand after some further reading is that headphones out is actually amplified to drive the headphones. And if so, can they or should they be connected to the high level input instead?
@@rlong749 Even though the headphone output is used to amplify headphones, it will not produce enough current to adequately drive the High Level input on your REL. The Low Level input on the subwoofer will be the best option for connecting to in this application.
Is it OK connecting the high level input when speakers are connected?
The High Level input on our subwoofers is designed to connect to the exact same output terminals on your amplifier as your main speaker wire is connected to, using the specialty cable that is supplied with each subwoofer. If you have any additional questions about using the High Level input, then feel free to reach out and we will be happy to assist.
Hello do yuo have a shop en madrid because my subwoofer rel es broken
We are sorry to hear about the issues which you are experiencing with your REL subwoofer. Our distributor in Spain is E. Sarte Audio Elite SL, and they will be happy to provide assistance with repairing your subwoofer. Their website is www.sarte-audio.com/
Where on the Receiver do you connect to the .1 LFE?
Thank you for reaching out. The .1/LFE input on a REL subwoofer should ideally be connected to the subwoofer output jack on an AV processor or receiver.
How would you connect Klipsch the Fives to this? Just the LFE? Or is there a way perhaps with a receiver to use both the LFE , ARC from the Fives , and the high level input combined? My brain hurts.
Thank you for contacting us. Since your Klipsch The Fives are active speakers, meaning that they are powered by a built-in amplifier, we recommend connecting your REL subwoofer using it's Low Level input. This input can be connected to the sub-out on the speakers, using a standard RCA cable, and will allow for full use of the subwoofer's Crossover, Level, and Phase controls for tuning it's output.
@@RELAcoustics given the crossover knob only has indication for minimum (30Hz) and maximum (120Hz), how can in-between frequencies be determined? For example I believe connecting a sub to The Fives makes The Fives cut off at 80Hz. How do you know where 80Hz is on the Rel crossover knob? Does the knob click? Does each click of the knob signify a specific increase? Thanks
@@davidbowyer6840 Thank you for reaching out. When adjusting the Crossover control on a REL subwoofer, we recommend tuning by-ear rather than aiming for a specific frequency setting. This helps the subwoofer to blend more seamlessly with your main loudspeakers based on how they are performing in your room, rather than how the spec sheet suggests they will perform.
To set Crossover, we recommend starting with the dial set to the minimum position, and the Level control set to a moderate value. While playing reference material with deep and consistent low-frequency impulses, slowly raise the Crossover dial, and stop once you begin to hear boominess and a lack of definition in the low-mid to upper-bass frequency range. From there, lower the Crossover control back down slightly, which should restore a more seamless blend.
@@davidbowyer6840 I might be wrong, but I believe you could turn the cross over knob on the REL all the way to the maximum since the speakers are doing all the Fives are cutting off at 80hz anyway. This way you don't have to worry about any gap in the hz.
How to connect REL T7/x with Denon DRA 800H. It has 2 pre out port for sub woofer connection. Can I use RCA cable?
Thank you for reaching out. The T/7x can be connected using it's Low Level input to the subwoofer output RCA jack on your Denon DRA-800H receiver, though to get the best possible performance from the subwoofer we recommend connecting it using the High Level input. This input uses a specialty cable that comes supplied with the T/7x, and connect to the same speaker output terminals on the amplifier as your main speaker wire is connected to.
The following instructions can be used when connecting High Level to the DRA-800H:
- Connect the red wire of the High Level cable to the right channel positive speaker output terminal.
- Connect the yellow wire to the left channel positive speaker output terminal.
- Connect the black wire to the signal ground thumb screw, located below the phono inputs on the amplifier's back panel.
We hope that this helps, but if you have any additional questions then feel free to let us know and we will be happy to assist.
@@RELAcousticsThank you very much.
Actually I have done bi-wiring connection to the speakers (B&W 606).
Is the high level connection you mentioned between REL T/7x and Denon DRA-800H same for bi-wiring connection of speakers.
@@nareshmahapatra23 Thank you for your response. If you are currently bi-wiring your B&W 606 speakers then the High Level connections will remain the same, though we recommend connecting the High Level cable to the output terminals on your Denon amplifier that are sending signal to the low-frequency drivers on your speakers.
@@RELAcoustics Thank you for responding my queries.
@@RELAcoustics what will be the low pass filter setting of the subwoofer channel?The default setting is 80Hz.
surely its better to stick a high pass filter on all speakers in your system and send anything lower to the sub that use the high level input with LFE? as you will get the low stuff from all 5 speakers and not just the 2 front speakers?
for me i would rather the sub focused on the LFE on its own and leave the other speakers to play full range? thats the point of the LFE!
The majority of our subwoofer models can be connected using both the High Level input and the more traditional .1/LFE input simultaneously. This allows the subwoofer to provide low-frequency extension for your front left and right channel loudspeakers, resulting in significantly improved performance during both 2-channel music and home theater listening, while also delivering the LFE sub-bass effect when necessary.
@@RELAcoustics I am considering the T9i and my local Hi-Fi Shop are going to loan me one. How would i go about performing a Dirac Live calibration? would i keep the high level input connected? or would i remove this whilst this is being performed?
@@grahamprescott9426 When using room correction software such as Dirac Live, we recommend disconnecting the High Level cable from the subwoofer so that only your main loudspeakers are connected to the system while the program runs. After the room correction has finished you can then re-connect the High Level cable and tune the subwoofer by-ear to blend with your main loudspeakers.
Why nit connect to a subwoofer out of the amplifier?
Thank you for reaching out. REL subwoofers can be connected using an RCA cable to the "sub-out" on AV receivers or integrated amplifiers, though when possible we recommend connecting using the High Level input in order to get the best possible performance from a REL subwoofer. More information about the benefits of using the High Level input can be found in the following article from our website: rel.net/blog/2021-02-09/system-thinking/what-is-a-high-level-cable/
Sorry...bit confused...does the high level cable go connected to zone 2 or does it go connected to the same terminals that the front speakers are connected to, effectively, using the sub and speakers on the same connection?
Shane Macdonald yeah wondering the same
Shane Macdonald do you know the answer?
Piotr Gęsiarz you connect to the same terminals
Can you provide an example of how the high level input wouldn’t be compatible with a system?
The High Level input is not compatible with systems that use active speakers, since there is no way to access the power amplifier outputs for connecting the high level cable. For systems using active speakers, we recommend using the subwoofer's Low Level input.
Thank you for the response. Thank god I own Harbeth!,, problem solved. I want to try a pair of subs with my P3’s 40th anniversary’s. I’m sure they would sound awesome.
REL Acoustics Thanks for the informative video! If I’m using active speakers in an a setup for both 2ch and HT, can I connect using the low-level as well as LFE?
Always have grounding issues with RELs high level input. None of their solutions for high level connection work. None. This applies to the R3 and S9.
Thank you for reaching out, and we are sorry to hear about the grounding issues that you are experiencing with your REL subwoofers. When you have a chance, please write in to contactus@rel.net and our team will be happy to assist with troubleshooting this hum and providing resolution options as needed.
Hi
You didn’t show how the 2 Rel outs connects to the AVR. I have a Denon 3500H and I’ve watched lots of videos but am still confused 🥴
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Hello, feel free to write in to contactus@rel.net and we will be happy to assist with any connection or setup questions for your REL subwoofer.
Hi REL Acoustics,
I am planning to setup a 3D subwoofer set up with 4 REL subs as -
1. REL T/7x for Center channel - using High Level Input only
2. REL T/7x for dedicated Rear surrounds - using High Level Input and LFE (one .1 sub out from AVR)
3. 2 REL T/9xs, one for Left and one for Right Mains - using High Level Input and LFE (other .1 sub out from AVR using a Y splitter to 2 subs). These speakers and subs (without LFE) will also be used for 2 channel listening.
Do you see any issues with this 4 sub setup? Are the REL models I chose apt for this setup?
Question on sub for surrounds. I am planning to do a 7.2.4 setup. How can I connect all my surround channels (4 surrounds and/or 4 atmos) to the high level input of the surround sub.
Thank you for reaching out. Assuming that your home theater is placed in an average-sized room, then the subwoofer models that you described will work very well as a REL-3D setup. For the rear-channel subwoofer, we recommend connecting the red and yellow high level wires to the positive output terminals for the rear right and rear left channels. You can also try connecting them to the positive output terminals for the side surround channels, but in our experience connecting the subwoofer to the rear left and right channels works best.
What rel is that sitting next to him? looks the business.
Looks like the t9i 10”
How is the high level connection different from say setting your speakers to "small" with a crossover in an AVR? low frequencies (and .1 LFE) still get passed to the subwoofer. I assume when connecting to high level, a "crossover" still needs to be set? Just for context, I came across the REL 3D home theatre and found this concept interesting. Trying to wrap my head around setting up a subwoofer via high level to my centre channel, but not sure what the differences are to standard settings with a crossover. Thanks
Thank you for reaching out. When connecting a REL subwoofer using it's High Level input, the main loudspeakers are sent a full-range signal and are allowed to play to their fullest potential as intended by their designer. The subwoofer will receive that same full-range signal, but with a low-pass filter crossover applied so that it only produces signal below where the main loudspeakers naturally roll-off in their low-frequency extension in your room. In our experience this approach not only results in more natural performance from the main loudspeakers, but also enables the subwoofer to focus on producing sub-bass output, rather than having it also produce low-mid signal that the main loudspeakers are more capable of producing accurately.
By comparison, setting your main loudspeakers to "small" within the receiver and bandwidth-limiting their signal is unnecessarily limiting the signal that the main loudspeakers receive, and also making the subwoofer produce signal outside of it's optimal range. More information about the benefits of our High Level connection method can be found in the following article from our website: czcams.com/video/bnQOjCuoR9k/video.html
Great informative video, but what I personally never understood is that surround processor manufacturers mix up LFE with Bass Management and add it up and call it "subwoofer"..
A good 5.1 surround processor has 5 separate subwoofer pre-outputs for all 5,x channels and a dedicated LFE output
Never get a soundbar if you are getting a rel sub lol, well don't get a soundbar period!
Jesus Christ. !!! I'll just keep using my vintage Rectilinear Highboy and pioneer cs-88a out of both A-B channels. I'd like to use the 5.1 option on my old sony but it only has one subwoofer RCA out.
Thumbs down. You did not show connecting to the speakers!
I meant connecting to amplifier.
If the REL is connected to the speaker posts, how does it not use power from the power amplifier?
Thank you for reaching out. The High Level input on our subwoofers has a significantly high input impedance, of approximately 150,000 ohms, which is the primary feature that allows the High Level cable to be connected to the amplifier's output terminals without placing any current load on the amplifier or drawing any power away from your main loudspeakers. Instead the subwoofer will draw only a small amount of signal which it then amplifies using it's own internal amplifier.