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If i was going to prison for that long id happily do that boot camp
I have been through two boot camps . One in the juvenile system and the other was in the adult prison system. In the juvenile boot camp my drill instructors were in the marines,army,navy. I loved every bit of it. There should be more programs like this. It builds character, heart,integrity and most of all accountability. These places are the perfect answer for young men who didnt have father figures in their lives. I still consider these programs that I went through to be the best times of my life.
Jamesons Travels the voice over says at 01:17 " there are 37 felons aged between 14 and 24" so don't know why you asked later on what their ages are LOL 03:16 you say they are not juveniles and don't know what the age limits are but some are juveniles at 14 years old and the age range was advised at the beginning a good soldier or Marine listens carefully - lest you F up!!!
These guys are weak haha. I remember smiling while getting smoked by the DS. Got me promoted lmao. Can't smoke a rock.
Jameson perosnally i think 16 months of Boot camp and an opportunity at a better life is a great system. After 16 months can u join the forces?? And its not abuse when the Drill In structures are there to try and help and rehabilitate those kids. But getting raped in prison yea is off the scale worse.
Anyone who says this is abuse truly don’t understand true “abuse” or violence.
My drill sergeants beat someone up. Kicked people on the ground. Knocked a guy with an injured leg off of crutches, etc
That was abuse in the Army. These guys are just being bossed around, that's the easy part
Or 10 years of prison instead....
They would almost certainly experience real abuse and violence if they went to prison instead.
@NOT 8 BIT need anything buddy?
@@catlover1986 sounds that you been in Red Army
Not abuse, its a great way to adjust attitudes and life decisions more people would do well with this training.
Luke Warm “more people would do good with this training” hum... it’s almost like more people should join the army then... become like Switzerland
@@it3897 not necessarily going through that conditioning even without joining the military can give you the ability to be respectful and have your appearance, hygiene, and work ethic on point, all of which definitely helps no matter what you do in life
@@it3897 If you mean Switzerland's history of peace then sure but Switzerland was also the home of Mercenaries. Hence why the Pontifical Swiss Guard exists.
Switzerland is not a peaceful non fighting nation. They have a strong military bc if they didn't they would not be able to declare themselves neutral during times of war. The swiss guard that guard the POPE are all SWISS born and some guys have been holding the tradition for their family for hundreds of years. Watch some documentaries on the Pontifical Guard.
@@ryanramsey9621 I think you have misunderstood what I have wrote. I am not writing their military is weak but of their history of peace. I am aware of the latter stuff. I misunderstood your assertions. I should have been clear sorry.
My cousin was charged with attempted murder years ago and went through this it absolutely changed him completely he’s a good person now.
good discipline creates a real man
@@woke657 Truer words have never been spoken 💯
I once saw the Japanese prison system and there too they change people, brutal samurai discipline
The system worked then 😅
Surprised he didn't join the military after going through this. I mean boot camp would be like a review and it wouldn't be something like he never experienced before.
Finally, a prison "system"that might actually reform, instead of reinforce, behavior. This is great. A second chance, plus actual life skills. Thanks for the video. Great info and great topics. And thank you for your service.
I went through a program like this when I was a teenager for a year and a half. It was tough, but I grew to have a lot of respect for the instructors and what they were trying to accomplish. The commander of the program was an amazing guy, as real as they come. He was a 40 year marine veteran who served in the Korean War. I thought my life was tough, until one day he sat me down and told a story about how he was shot seven times and sat in a hospital bed for 5 years. I have nothing but respect for that man. I learned a lot during my time in the program. They break you down, but they also build you back up stronger and better. It’s a humbling experience.
Awesome man.
Same man
Alaska Millitary Youth Academy
Wonderful testimony!
I had a friend who broke the law back in the early 90’s when we graduated HS and during his trial, enlisted in the Army. The judge let him off of all charges so long as he successfully completed US Army boot camp, which he did. He turned out a very different man and was no longer the criminal type he was when he went in. So if this actual jail program can create results like he had joining the Army we should look into doing this in more instances I think. Idk.
To be fair, I was in the Marine Corps and say my fair share of dirt bags who were just as irresponsible and bad news in the Corps as they were "back on the block". It can change people, but not everybody.
I agree I think everyone deserves a shot at it as long as it benefits them in the end
Shindrithar Griethrat I also agree with the idea that it’s not for everyone, but I think that the drills will seek out who’s unfit. But I also think it’s good for people to try it out so they can be shaped into a better person that even if they fail they will be a better person when they get out of prison
Which to my understanding is not always the case for everyone. Just all depends on their experience, but I think those who deserve it would at least have a chance
Sure it might not work for everyone. But it will work for some. The inmates who truly want a second chance will work for and earn it. They will be transformed. Those who are looking for an easy way out of going to prison will be left behind, hopefully with a better understanding about how second chances work. Second chances are just that. A chance to start over again and start living their life right. Having an offender turn themselves around not only helps them, it helps everyone around them as well. Good luck, God Speed, I hope they accept the gift they've been given
So far, I say this is one hell of an offer compared to the alternative which is spending 10-20 years in a cell with Bubba. All states should have this.
Lol,
"Get on yo knees silly boi"
@@onion8216 get yo knees off my deck silly boi!!!!!
"Systematic humiliation"?
Well guys I just got back from the gym. I did 5 sets of 10 Humiliation. Then I got on the treadmill and did 20 minutes of humiliation. I'm feeling pretty abused right now.
🤣
That's all you did in a full gym session?
You were cheated, not abused. 😂
LMAO...
Are you ok man
"Systematic humiliation" Are you serious? Extended boot camp versus going to jail for 10+ years? Does the idiot who wrote this program even consider where these kids would be if not here? Far worse degradations and humiliations exist in prison than doing some push ups while being yelled at.
@John Doe For stories about the prison system Shaun Attwood gives a chilling insight.
It is systematic humiliation. It’s done to break them so they can learn discipline. It’s done for their own good.
Well it is systematic humiliation. It is a system built on humiliating them.
The thing is, that is a good thing for them to have. Much better then the alternative.
Sometimes you need to be tough for them to learn discipline
Don't drop the soap
I'd take 16months of boot camp over years in the pin. No question
“Too Easy”.
Any day m8
i’d do bootcamp again for free lol
@@Soupfries I feel that
@@Soupfries it's just summer camp with guns, pushups, and running
I was a drill instructor and a senior drill instructor in a prison Boot Camp for seven years. 15 weeks was as long as ours lasted. I cannot imagine being in Boot Camp for 16 months and anybody actually passing it. This is wild!
It probably takes most of them 16 months to reach the appropriate fitness standards for passing the test at the end.
I remember at the end of Marine Corps boot camp thinking, "I could stay here." I was so used to it at that point and (most of) my fellow recruits felt like brothers. I think once one adapts, they could go much longer than the 13 weeks that I was in boot camp. Not sure if anyone else felt the same.
Yeah I was enlisted as 95B (Military Police) in the 90s, Army. They worked us out in basics harder than any other MOS starting out in the Army. I'd LOVE to do it all over again! I really miss those days... I'd love for something like this for older ex soldiers who want to get back in to shape after years of mastering the couch... Lol
I went to this Boot Camp back in 2014 when i was 24 yrs old , it was the best thing that happened to me . It straightened me out completely and changed my life forever . I’m now 33 yrs old with a wife and kid and closing in on a property , I’d never thought this would ever happen to me and it did and I’m grateful
A neighbor of mine did the same, but when he got done and realized the army wasn’t for him, so he switched to the marine
I’d love to know you better Jeffrey, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and very cool person.
This isn’t abuse, this is respect. Those DIs, or whatever they are, clearly respect those boys enough to kick their ass into shape rather than throwing them into the system. Same with boot camp. You may be getting smoked out, but that’s because they do give a shit, they want to make you a stronger better man
Announcer was a d bag. It’s a great 2nd chance for some s birds
@Cameran Bittick everything is abuse. just ask the narrator.
@@JamesonsTravels Thats whats wrong with society now. Everyone finds everything "offensive". I wish the narator tried saying it to a face of a USMC drill instructor, guarantee he'd want to kill himself
To wake up before they do and go to bed after they do means you definitely care to sacrifice and expel all that energy to hope for lasting change.
Abuse?? I say it is a blessing and privilege.
100%
@@JamesonsTravels Can i ask you something?
@@davidvazquezamill7331 yes
@@davidvazquezamill7331 he responded. NOTIF POP!
@@dishdaddyssoap8691 What do you 🤔 mean exactly?
This is amazing, every state needs this. Seems like it could truly reform people.
All around the world
It worked for my buddy, he changed his life after he went through one. Even kicked some serious drug issues ect got out and has two kids now and works like a mad man.
Idaho, has one but it's not like this necessarily but it's still really good and honestly id implement allot of these teachings to 11th grade and 12th grade.
The problem is that the state doesn't care about reforming people. There's too much money to be made in the prison industrial complex.
No I don’t want abuse
I remember my drill instructor, marine sgt Ferrit. He said on day one "you can like me, dislike me, hate me or appreciate me. But I guarantee you will never forget me" he was right, and you will dislike them if you take it personally. I liked him and I've never forgotten him.
This bootcamp here, if you had to do this or hard time... you are doing this with 1000% enthusiasm
This is a program that every state needs to catch on too.
Exactly.. well said.
No man no, they literally could not have this in California they’ll be losing drill instructors left and right just like they do CO’s that are shitwads
@@scottwest5704 And California is so much worse?
@@allenlarabie8854 Yeah, except that he misspelled "to."
Every country :)
16 months later theyll realize they have all the necessities and a life away from their previous one
Even if the program cost more, I suspect we would get better results. Training them for a job vs housing them is a good idea.
@@JamesonsTravels well said.
Honestly pretty beautiful to see; a second chance for life, and becoming better. A lot of young people are just people who have gone down a bad path and need to be shown a way out of that darkness.
10 weeks in Navy bootcamp changed me. Though I wasn't a felon, I flirted with being a complete dirtbag. I think it is totally fair to give people a change through a 16 MONTH bootcamp to change their ways.
GO NAVY
It helped me at the time some of it stayed with me. I was Navy 2001 2004
That program is a hell of a deal. New lease on life.
I agree. Love it. 16 months seems right. I hope not works. New lease on life.
Let them Join the military after this. They stay away from their old life and get paid.
Sure hope this program works. Love the idea. Hope the results bear it worth it.
Here's a better idea:
Give the prisoner three choices:
Option one: Boot Camp and no prison and free to go if successfully completed.
Option two: Prison for the maximum sentence his/her crime(s) prescribe to be run consecutively, no good time, time served or parole.
Option three: Cyanide capsule. Obviously, if one takes this option, they definitely won't commit crimes again, be a drain on society or anything else.
Either way, they don't continue on the criminal path.
@@chrismc410 option 4 , volunteer for clinical studies in the name of science
@@chrismc410 I like your ideas, but they shouldn't even have a choice. A lot of these scumbags would choose prison because after a while prison doesn't even become a punishment for them. They just readjust to playing cards with the homies, lift weights, run prison rackets and get used to prison gang life for 30 years behind bars. When you work with recently re-convicted scumbags you learn how eager most of them are to get out of jail and go to prison, because jail is actually worse. Jail is overcrowded with overflow cells, if they are actually in a gang, the situation for them is less optimal and more dangerous in jail. There are no perks, the food is generally worse and contraband is harder to get.
They should get one shot and one and only shot. Mandatory boot camp and be relegated to PCP if they are non hackers. You fail this and you go to your option two and add hard labor to the terminus of the sentence for everyone. For violent offenders, you could add the option of the cyanide capsule.
@@basicbodybuilding Human lab rat is included as a valid Service for citizenship in Starship Troopers, novel form.
Those who endure 16 months of boot should be given an opportunity to join the service afterwards.
Big facts.
Nah tht shits cake . From a former marine
@@bartonarchuleta204 lmao
I dont agree fully. I think there should be another stipulation to that opportunity and it shouldnt be given to someone with an extremely violent conviction.
First, a successful completion of this boot camp program. After they've graduated, they have to keep their nose clean for a minimum of two years. If they are successful with that, then I say that they need to go before a board and be interviewed. If board members all vote that he/she should be given the opportunity, then wipe their record clean and start enlistment paperwork.
I was in the military for 7 years...there are a lot of scumbags in the military. The screening process is too relaxed. I believe in change and I believe in second chances, but not at the risk of friends i have that are still serving.
I think if this were to become a consideration, then it needs to be executed carefully and with the safety of other service members in mind.
I wasn't aware that former felons were barred from the military.
They should go to the army after this
Can't go in with any felonies
@@LA_Commander yes they can
@@jaystan4597 sure, there were a few waivers given for felonies at the height of the Iraq war when the army was desperately short of manpower. They waived a lot of things back then. But as a rule, you cannot.
Hey nice you like Brewstew too
@@Ghozti333 xd yes
“better than going to the big boy jail and getting corn holed” 😂
Dude is hilarious
Are you threatening me?!?!?!?!?!?!
I died after I heard that hahaha
Hate the way the announcer refers to them as 'victims', when the only victims we should be worried about are the people they inflicted harm on to start with
If we only worry about the victims of the criminal and not the criminals themselves, then we aren't very far from them losing their human rights and just killing them off. I know it's a huge conversation where we have yet to find a good answer, but the prison system as it is right now is wrong and does not help anyone. I think the announcer should keep calling them victims but not victims of the drill sergeant but victims to the situations and decisions that brought them where they are now. Victims of a messed up culture and upbringing. They need to be punished but they also deserve the chance to be rehabilitated
Plenty of them are in detention for nonviolent crimes dude
@@valala2987 Death is a valid punishment. Rehabilitation is a noble aim but if it is grave enough death is their Just Desert.
@@Vamutus did we watch the same video from the sound of it most of them are in for violent crimes
@@Vamutus nonviolent does not equal victimless. Are there no victims of Bernie Madoff? (Spoiler: there were. 37,000 of them)
It would be interesting to have an interview with someone who completed the program and back in the real world.
Indeed
Why bother , they are cons and they will lie
Probably killed more people
It’s all about what each offender puts into it. It goes from that high stress “your ass is mine!” To a more instructive realization of how the bad choices they made isn’t the way. It’s like any other rehab if the offender doesn’t want to change they won’t.
The announcer said “systematic humiliation”.... what did I go through then lmao they just called it exercise
I feel you on that 😂
Corrective Training lmao
The way i see it mandatory voluntary. 😂
You also did it voluntarily and got paid.. you were doing your job. Entitled bitch
Lmao fr right 💀
These juvenile delinquents act like obedient school boys once they finally had someone to actually intimidate them
@HelluvaHusky
Yes, yes it is 😂
I grew up tough as fuck, friends in gang it all depends on you’re mind if you want it or not
@BigChief Toke
You clearly misunderstood what I said and you’re mad for no reason.
I said it’s all about the mind if you wanna hang with gangs or not 😂. Grow up
@BigChief Toke
My friend got shot when I was in the car with him that day changed me forever, now I ship out for boot camp on November 9th, everybody has a choice in life
He didn’t make it btw
Wish I could have had a chance like this rather spending my teens in a cell, and not being able to move forward 13 years later
It stays with you for ever. I did 3 years over 15 years ago and it's with me a bit
Same here man. I spent 13-18 in juvenile prison. 2/3 of that time in solitary confinement. If i would have been able to do a program like this, it would have completely challenged everything i thought i knew as a young, ignorant, arrogant child.
You guys stay up! The power of positivity is outstanding even if you dont feel it inwardly. Outwardly it will advance you and bring you 10 fold. ✊
If prison was like this and each inmate were given attention this intense I believe it would rehabilitate in a way that can be beneficial to the individual as well as society by now having a productive member of society rather a convict . This is truly a blessing for these individuals, hopefully they will see that sooner than later .
This should be prison in general.
good point however the aclu thinks otherwise. its become a breeding ground for better criminals.
@@JamesonsTravels that's half the problem, soft prison systems make for loser criminals having an ok time in jail, if it was a hard time serving there'd be less criminals n less repeat offenders, I'm all for harsher prison conditions
@@johnbush5347 No the problem with prisons is no rehabilitation. We just let guards and prisoners turn into beasts and wild hunters. Guards having kids with prisoners, toilet liquor, and too much use of the hole. Makes mad men. Just give them jobs training, military, or rehab. Unless you’re a lifer repeat offender I want more citizens who contribute than felons.
@@9manny99 bro you aint been stop talking
@@jonathanhendrix2925 Wow great discussion. Nice talk
This is not abuse. This is simply weakness leaving the body.
You sound like my dad lol (I'm joking I know what real abuse is and this ain't it)
Rah😂
Ooh-rah
@@bouttobreak12 oh we about to play games 91..... Get on line now. Nope go back. Get on line now. Nope go back. Keep sounding off like your balls haven't dropped yet. I got something real fun for you 91.
I know that’s right
30 years ago I went through basic training at Parris Island (USMC). Without question it was the greatest thing I’ve ever done in my life. There is not a single institution on this earth that is better at taking a kid...stripping away all the bad and then building that kid from the ground up into a man. It was 11 week whirlwind that I will never forget. To this day I can still remember the names of my Drill Instructors and see their faces...God Bless them..they changed my life forever. I think every young man and woman should experience the military..our country would be in a much better state than it is now.
A neighbor of mine did the same, but when he got done and realized the army wasn’t for him, so he switched to the marine
Id love to know you better Mark, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and very cool person
The marines broke me of drinking and driving
good job on that
Yeah drinking and driveing is bad for everyone
Marines don't drive, they boat.
They haven't been yelled at because 99% of them have never had a father figure in their lives to set them straight and discipline them.
You say that like it’s their fault they didn’t have a father lmao get off their dick 🤧
@John Doe I’m not projecting dumb fuck I’m not mentally damaged dumbass, I’m just saying how it sounded or came off go fix society while ur at it too
@@danielfatone3994 you is so pressed lmao
@@danielfatone3994 you sound like a bitch
Joseph Montes no it’s not you fucking idiot
Man I’ve never gotten used to waking up at 5 a.m. Been in the marine corps 0311.. played highschool and college football.. so I’ve been waking up 4-5 a.m for a good 18 years... never got used to it.
Lol. It’s sort of baked into me now. Partly for the Corps but mostly for trying to beat everyone else to the money grab which is business.
I don't get a full night sleep ever, so if I'm sleeping at 5am and I wake up it's because there's a fire or intruder.
If you have to wake up anyway what difference does it make what time it is?
I worked night shift in the Navy and had to get up at noon. Now I get up at 5am There's no difference. Waking up sucks.
I feel you on that 🤣 especially when you have to do PT in the pouring down rain at 0430
@@KilurDragon take a shit in the pouring rain and say something
Went through Parris Island 1987, 17 years old, winter time, 3rd battalion I company
A lot of screaming, Also a lot of great memories, definitely changed me for the Better
I’m sure 16 months can help change some of these kids
This reminds me a lot of the first few days Marine Boot Camp from 2016. Constantly moving, no sleep, little to no time to eat, picking out the weak. Great experience and I'm glad these guys have an opportunity to do this and start fresh with their lives.
It was a shell shock for the 17 year old me haha. I've often wondered what it would be like going back through.
Probably the only time they ever had a father figure in their lives.
Sad and true
Thank you...
So people are ok with Beyond Scared Straight, but THIS is where they draw the line?
Beyond Scared Straight is a stupid waste of time. The results aren't there that indicate anything different. Here, we're talking about a year and a half. That's some real commitment. A year and a half can change someone, not a blip like Beyond Scared Straight. This program here, might actually work. So, if anything, you're right, what people consider acceptable is seriously messed up. Like 180 degrees - as far off as you can get.
Scared Straight Programs are a scam
This is a pretty old scene from a prison type show. Maybe 15 is years now
Beyond scared straight is bs, it’s reality television, it’s fake lmao
Scared straight is just T.V lol
I've watched a lot of your videos and your objectivity stands out. You seem to ask more questions as opposed to blanket criticism that others level in similar videos. Former Coast Guard (1967-1976)and retired NCARNG/Army I enjoyed your CG boot camp video a lot. Good job.
There was something similar in the UK a number of years ago, billed as the “short, sharp, shock”, young offenders were sent to young offenders institutions, all the wardens were ex army drill instructors and they were basically given constant drill, beastings and PT for a number of weeks. The scheme was abandoned as it just made them fitter and stronger and more resistant to authority.
So with this scheme in the US is this just 16 months of being yelled at, drill and PT or is there some measure of additional training, maybe trade training to help them get work once released?
I’ve always thought that jail should be about punishment followed by reform. Break them down first then actually teach them something to help them when released.
Interesting video to watch.
Unfortunately in the US, prisoners turn into repeat offenders after their sentence. Prisons foster their behavior, and make it worse long term. They don't actively train prisoners, but rather just house and feed them with other like-minded ones. The way they do it in this video is excellent, and I hope it catches on. You can't just have an inbetween method, has to either be boot camp or nothing.
they also help them get their GED, and job experience , volunteer work and a bunch of other things i forget. but it's on their website
@@Vince-DM most prisons don't want you reformed. There's no money in that
The Army getting rid of the Shark Attack is the worst decision I ever heard of in my opinion. It helped build not just your character but also mold your discipline as well.
Going through it for the first time it was hell but looking back on it now, I’d go through it again
The point of it was for draftees who didn’t want to adjust to the military. This a volunteer force now they replaced it with obstacles and teamwork.
Tommy McInnis Lol there’s still an adjustment needed to go from civilian to military life and not everyone that joins does so because they want to be a soldier. In fact, in my experience that’s a minority.
@@mcinnisthemenace216 I hate that argument. Mental toughness is a determining factor of survival in high risk, stressful situations - teaches you to think when your brain freezes - which has saved so many lives in combat.
Volunteering to go through it or not you come out better than you went in. Dropping it wholesale is one less tool that could save a life.
@@Fuck343 They still yell and curse at you and all the other stuff if thats what you're getting at. 99% of BCT is teamwork with cursing anyway they start them off with that immediately. Don't let this video fool you it's still insane.
This is discipline, the reason why these carrots are in this situation is that they lacked it. Now GET SOME!!
Damn right
agreed
I love how you called them carrots.
💯💯💯💯facts
Indeed, sometimes you need a bit of stick. It's better than being raped. My opinion is that rape can be worse than murder, and that all rapists are scum.
I was on my way to becoming a career criminal, I completed the treasure state correctional center. It saved my life. It was hard, I left more demons on that mountain than I can count. Its not humiliation it humbling, its not torture its pushing through adversity. It saved my life. I am a boot camp grad, today I am a successful, sober, honest, father of two. It saved my life, so many others. Thank you tsctc. And thank you sergeant Muhammad. I'll never forget
It’s great when someone is given a second chance, and uses it. You should be proud!
Thank *you* man. I'm proud of you for sticking with it and being a father to your kids. They need you more than anything. You're an example to those like you.
The bootcamp success story is not just my own, there are countless others, this is a vital program. The only one I had found that works. They shut montana boot camp down. How many kids wont have real daddys now. Yes I am unique, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
I needed something like this when I was a teenager, but thankfully I grew out of that criminal phase and now I’m 23 about to join the army. Every state needs a program like this
We need this type of stuff nationwide. No way it doesn’t do more good than most of our current criminal justice system
A lot of states did tried their own versions of boot camps. Mainly in the mid 90’s to early 2000’s. Practly all of them failed for a number of reasons. Some of the range along of the lines of actual abuse that lead to the death of the inmates, to too low success rates, to running out of funding. List just goes on and on. In fact this very program was on the chopping block due to lack of funds to keep it going. Yet they did get some last minute funding from a third party source.
Wyoming has a good work camp honestly these guys are kinda lucky being in Miami wyoming winters are brutal
Worldwide you mean? My Country needs this kind of Thing.
Our prisons in the Philippines is so packed like Sardines. And even those who were let out on good behavior, they would do it again.
My nephew went through a program just like this as a juvenile. I think 6 months. He returned as a totally different person. Personal pride, personal accountability and respect for himself and others. It makes a world of difference for young people to actually find value in themselves. You know a lot of these guys are out being knuckleheads and get so caught up that even if they want to change they feel like it would be for nothing. He graduated High School and has joined the Army and eventually wants to be a police officer.
We need this in every state. Thank God we have this program.they get a taste of there own medicine for the harm they've done to others.
A neighbor of mine did the same, but when he got done and realized the army wasn’t for him, so he switched to the marine
Id love to know you better, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and outspoken person
We had a family of guys in our town back in the late 1960's, they had all boys. Mean freakin' family ( abuse, alcohol, drugs, fighting).
The set of twins ended up going to Viet Nam, two tours (Army).
The youngest was forced to go to the Marines..
Oldest did five years in state prison!
The twins, the youngest got out of the military and just turned meaner, but knew more ways to fight!
The oldest got out and got meaner too, ended up going back to prison for three more years!
So something like this will either break you, make you better or train you to be meaner and a I don't care attitude!!
“Better than going to the big boy jail and getting corn-holed, right?”
-Jamesons Travels 2020
They focus on the weaker ones to see if they’re truly weaker, but trying their best, or being lazy.
You're dead on. If you're lazy, then they give more motivation. If you're weak, then they train you for that.
I never served in the military, but this looks like a great way to break these people down and change the direction of their lives. In 16 months much can be done to teach these guys skills and self respect.
I think this is a fantastic idea that will work out well.
Most criminals suffer from extreme lack of confidence and have shallow egos.
Crime makes them feel powerful and they act on it as compensation.
This program will help them build real confidence that will eventually allow them to become empathic and useful in society
I believe this should be the standard juvenile detention. Great video!
Looks like a good one.
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Honestly, would like to see this give these guys a chance for military service even if it’s in some sort of penal unit. The bonds formed in military service are likely the most family style bonds these guys could get. If your making it thru this program I’d say you have the temperament to make a fine solider.
"The pork chop platoon" - 😂🤣
Yeah we need to ramp these programs up everywhere
I believe that it can help them change. One of my female cousins out in California went through their firefighting course and is absolutely a different person than she had been in the past. I did not think it was possible to see such a turnaraound but I have seen it in her. Perhaps we need more of this type of thing. Something that breaks the cycle for criminals.
It gives many of these young men something they never had..... Discipline, structure and knowing there is something bigger than just themselves.
I love this. it’s like a second chance for these kids but they aren’t handed it, they have to earn it. Much respect
These guys hit the proverbial jackpot!!!!!!!!!!
You gotta pay to play So Don't do the Crime if ya can't do the time...
Great work JT.......
I like this program. Reminds me of a story that happened about 20-30 years ago at a local juvenile detention center. There were a group of difficult young men that the correctional staff were having trouble with, so they gathered all the young men up and convinced them that a serial killer just broke out of jail and was spotted in the area. After the young men were convinced that there was a killer loose, one of the staff with a hockey mask chainsawed down the door and scared the hell out of the young men. The person who was telling me this story was one of the staff at the juvenile center, and he claimed that this event really helped put life into perspective for the young men.
There shouldn’t be a thing such as “prison bootcamp is too hard” they are lucky it’s even a thing
I work with a guy that went through prison bootcamp. He'll openly admit that it was an experience he'll never forget and it made him stronger.
The problem with programs like this is once they’re free of the discipline, they tend to recidivize to their old life. The point is to retrain them and instill real life skills. I’d like a follow up to track their success rate.
Would be cool to see some kind of “before and after”, for the folks that make it all the way through.
Ya, but in your regular prison or jail systems there's nothing! They just stick you in a cell with more criminals learning how to be a worse person. In this program at least they give some kind of direction, but its really up to the person regardless if they want to change.
A fair point, I'm curious what else is included with this boot camp. I wonder if later they help them develop some habits/skills that have "real world" applications.
Yeah leaving the boot camp is the hard part. It's almost like they need some 'support network' (for lack of a better term), to prevent them from wanting to go back to their old lifestyle.
@@benrobinson375 idea why don't we force them into a 4 year military contract that's standard. The US military needs more soldiers and look they need discipline and a future. We give them a job for 4 years that guarantees them money, housing, health care and college benefits. The USFG benefits by taking troubled kids from the streets and reforming them into respectable people. We've just solved the American youth crime problem.
I did this twice..1999 and 2004..completed on time with no extensions both time..after my second time in I have never gone back to jail or prison and it’s 2021 now..best thing a person could ever experience..if you truly want to do good you will be such a better person and it truly shines in your work life,u do construction and you will shine
We need more of this
Bruh my dad did worse than yell at me growing up.
I am in the same boat. I wont change a thing.
Me too
Same. It definitely built some mental toughness that I am thankful for. It made boot camp a breeze.
Lol same here. Corporal punishment, being beat w/ a belt, ordered to sit in the corner & stare at the wall until told otherwise, poked, pushed, & punched in the chest, and yelled at like a gunnery sergeant on a daily basis over having the refrigerator door opened for to long.
I had a former roommate who had the chance to either go to prison or join the army and complete army basic and he chose going to basic. He came out a much better person. He used to sit at home not doing shit in life and was 100% unreliable for anything and he constantly had a new job for getting fired over stupid shit. I remember the day he knocked on my door and completely looked like a new guy in the best way possible. He was physically fit, he was extremely attentive, and had enrolled in the local community College. He was so proud of having his first car and was finally happy with himself in life it was a beautiful transition. I still talk to him everyday were still friends I just always remember how he used to be and how he is now, beautiful change.
I think this a great opportunity that should be offered to most convicts, I’m a corrections officer at Leavenworth KS and I see nothing but success from this program
This is how it should be. We need more prisons and jails with this program.
I'm a bit mixed on this.
On the one hand, the fact that they're even trying to rehabilitate them and aren't just sticking them in a concrete cell for decades puts this option leagues ahead of the norm.
On the other hand, Marine Boot Camp lasts about 3 months - other branches shorter still - as well as a number of months training for a job. Even there most people don't reenlist and instead go back to old habits. So 16 months paradoxically sounds both insufficient and excessive because I don't know if there's any benefit beyond the first few months, nor that there's enough legit teaching filling that time to really help them.
Still, surprised something like this exists. Wish there were more alternatives like it trying to find something that works.
I'm going to have to disagree with you. I think that the new environment will condition with new habits. I'm talking about the ones that make it. I was one of these guys(not the video) but I grew up in a terrible place, statistically I shouldn't be alive or I should be in jail. I went through boot camp(USMC PI) and it changed my life for ever. I believe that this new environment will change there perspective on reality and change their views.
They’re prisoners who committed considerable crimes.
10 years compared to 16 months of strict watch is neither insufficient nor ineffective.
Especially at the level they’re requiring them to know and do.
I mean it’s unorthodox but did you expect any less from Florida? This is how we deal with people like this. And its pretty damn effective. Maybe its a southern thing.
@@Floridamangaming729 I agree it's all relative.
@@internetstrangerstrangerofweb Yeah 16 months compared to 10 years for something like murder/attempted murder (I don't know what their criteria are) is obviously the better choice from a criminals perspective. I'm just saying that specifically for rehabilitating them, I don't know that 16 months is enough time, nor that what they're actually doing there right now requires 16 months to do. The video doesn't go into much beyond basic boot camp stuff so I just don't know what that 16 months actually encompasses. Discipline obviously, but what else? Job hunting? Work ethic?
The main reason I bring it up I guess is that there's a number of things out in the rest of the US we still don't have right as is and some of these things make people more likely to commit crime such as lacking a father figure. I'd like to see more done to figure out rehabilitation that works and more importantly that we get it right with people the first time, but I'm not hopeful.
I don’t exactly think he literally meant victim, he was more just describing that they’ll be the victim of the punishment not that they’re victims them selfs.
When I think of rehabilitation this is what I think we need more of this.
1:20 “[There are] 37 felons aged between 14 and 24.”
I work in Corrections for the State of Ohio, and I wish they had things like this. I truly think if some of these younger felons had the chance to have guidance in their lives their lives would change drastically.
Exactly.
Boot Camps were all the rage in the nineties, they fell out of favor because the recidivism rate was just as high and it offered no real rehabilitation. The other side is they returned back to the same old neighborhoods and gangs, plus with any arrest or incarceration records it's tough getting a good paying job, so most went right back to the robbing, drug slinging, etc. None of them went into the Armed Forces. The whole point of boot camp is to produce well disciplined Soldiers, not to reform former gangsters, who themselves can't reform once they are in the system. Damn near impossible. A big waste of money.
Oh hi (o) I used to live in Ohio
@@GregoryDeese never give up
@@GregoryDeese Id love to know you better, thats only if you dont mind cos you seems to be a nice and very cool person.
This looks like a good initiative to me and worthy of tax payers money. Even if the recovery rate is not high, it can still manage to turn a few lowlifes and liabilities to the country into - maybe - productive members of society. It's a stick and carrot at the same time and offers a change of redemption for those who are still willing to seek it. I think that's a good deal overall.
I dont mind my tax money going for this. I never get what I deserve for the huge amount the wife and I pay. Obscene.
@Lynx “lowlifes” clearly you are projecting
@BigChief Toke You sound very triggered. I must have said something truthful.
@BigChief Toke What you did was to scream into the keyboard to shout at someone on the internet that doesn't see the world exactly as you do. You made a series of assumptions, knowing nothing about me, while coming to conclusions against the stereotype you built in your very unhinged head. *You*, random idiot on the internet, are this giant problem with society. Go get some therapy before you murder someone in a fit a rage for having the wrong opinion.
@@it3897 Clearly you want attempted murderers on the street.
Discipline changes who you are. I was a musician in professional settings for many years, playing in orchestras and ensembles on stage. Discipline was a huge part of it. Obviously not as extreme as the military. But discipline gives you something to be proud of. I say let these folks join the military. Give them something to be proud of
I feel like this is a good thing giving structure and discipline to individuals who didn’t while growing up.
When i was a teen my twin brother and i were sentenced to a reformatory. There were programs just like this.
It is a great deal to be able to have a chance not to go to prison for a long time by completing the program.
I became a commercial general contractor and my brother retired from the Army as a E-8 at Ft.Benning.
They are prisoners, they lost the right of being a victim the moment they committed a crime, the guards in the boot camp are doing good work
Exactly.
Not all of them really did something bad some were jsut kids 14 made a stupid mistake and now are facing felonies because they’re jsut a kid and didn’t really know what they were doing
@@johnnyboy4654 "kids" is not an excuse, if u make a mistake you must be punish, if they forgive someone just cuz is 14 years old who knows what they may become in the future, plus the boot camp might be way better than normal jail time
@@johnnyboy4654 14 is realllyy late for "innocence" unless you are special needs or have a certain disability. Typically age of innocence would be 8 or under.
You’re whats wrong
I think that this opportunity is a compassionate alternative to what they deserve. I also think that it gives many an insight to their own self worth, which would work to keep them on the strait path. My children are routinely pushed to achieve beyond their current perceived abilities and they are always ahead of their peers and never afraid of a challenge. A father’s sacred duty of which there is no greater importance, is to stick with your children and constantly guide them to greater heights.
For sure good program. Been thinking about something similar for a long time.
For the record, the narrator himself probably didn't write the script he's reading (though I haven't checked, but that's usually the case). It tends to be a single Writer/Director/Producer (maybe a tesm of two) behind these sorts of documentary series. And his delivery (sounding sad or shocked or whatever) is coming from the director, as well. He's being told, "Make it sound dramatic," "Add some sympathy," etc.
Just mentioning it because of all the comments directed towards him, when he's just doing the job he's paid to do.
It's the Writer/Director who's using words like "abuse" and "humiliation."
As for "victim," I think that instance was just some hyperbole, "victim" as in "a target for the DIs," not "someone suffering injury."
Great reaction, JT, I hope we see more of this doc.
It seems to me that more areas should do this.
Liberals would rather use S.W.A.T. tactics. Social Workers and Therapists.
@@jeffherdzina6716 Agreed, it only ends in anarchy with their ways
agree. it seems fair for society and the offender.
@@jeffherdzina6716 I think a mixture of boot camp and therapy would be the best. A lot of these boys grew up in traumatic situations I’m sure and therapy could help work through that. But therapy alone isn’t enough. They have to change their attitude which boot camp will do.
As a previous troubled youth, this is refreshing. Half the kids that I hung with were good kids at heart, just lacking direction, the other half, rotten to the core. I believe this would be an excellent sorting mechanism.
I think this is an amazing program. Breaking down alphas and reaching them self respect while they're still young.
I always believed in giving a chance to be better. Honestly some military background would be a good wat to start over.
I think this is just another version of scared straight, don’t get me wrong I highly encourage this type of program but does it really work (I ask this to make people think, you know get the juices flowing, gears going, not to indicate I am skeptical or wary of the program working, everyone deserves a chance to re-write their script and change the path they are on)? The way I see it is it’s cheaper to have someone go through this 16 month program than it is to lock a person up for 120 months (10 years). I can’t see them breaking them down for 16 months without building them up. When I got out of basic (4 weeks hold under thanks to the summer rush, followed with 9 weeks of training) I was shipped off to another lock down location for my military occupation specialty. After another 5 weeks of lock down we were finally able to get off post and have a little freedom. Most of us went crazy, I could only imagine what these guys will do after 16 months of this if they aren’t re-programmed or educated. Great video and commentary!
So you doubt it actually work bit highly encourage it ? That does not seem wise now does it ?
@@mauricematla1215 You should read Nova Law Review Volume 42, Issue 1 2018 Article 4 “Left, Left, Left Right Left: Should Florida Embrace Rehabilitation Boot Camp Programs For Juvenile And Youthful Offenders?” John Patrikis. There were some incidents of abuse, a 14 year old boy died while performing physical training, funding was cut, and I believe at the time that article was written only one camp remained open. The program was for kids ages 14-24 who had committed crimes but not murder or rape. I believe there recidivism rate was 11% but the allegations of abuse were a darker cloud and the numbers weren’t enough to keep the program funded. I am not very wise....
@@cw2lido what i do not inderstand why one would "highly' encourage anything they are not sure actually works ? That is not about what someone else has written. That is about YOUR words ? Or am i missing something here ?
I can understand what you're saying BUT these guys aren't getting paid and don't get any benefits besides their freedom. Not to mention it's red phase is a lot longer and only gets harder and harder until they're out of the program. Like I think this could work but even then we haven't seen the outcome of this program.
@@sticktails7553 First then let's define what "works" actually means in this matter.
Looks like Coast Guard Boot Camp most people don’t know it but they have one of the most toughest boot camps, their instructors are mostly Marine drill sergeants
*instructors
I love the content you put out. This is the only video I've seen that I don't agree. I went to a prison boot camp when I was 19 years old. It was harder than anything you ever went to. The other boot camp videos make me laugh. You went for a few weeks I went for six months.
I am from Baltimore Maryland when I was young I went through the boot camp in the DOC in Jessup Maryland and almost 25 years later I carry those lessons learned there it helped me through out life . The DI was like super men I mean the senior drill was a 160 pounds of vicious fury a powerlifting tri athlete who was also ex marine recon as were 4 others on that staff. You could not get over on them they would run in the squad bay banging trash can throwing things around screaming at the top of their lungs giving us 10 seconds to get on line and yelp you guessed it most of didn't get on line in time so they would burn us up for 20 minutes than pt us until they ran to chow I believe that should be a main stay in the prison system it definitely left a lasting impact on my life.
My little brother did it too
My buddy did a similar program if not the same one, it was from what I can tell a good experience for him. He didn't get out wanting to go back. Faced something like 5 years without boot camp, they had physical requirments they must make to pass and push ups and pull ups minimums were included. He became a squad leader in his camp and would make other people in his group fall in line- so taught leadership. He got a management position directly after getting out and was one of the hardest working managers at the company.
This made me think of a friend who lied about his age when he was a minor because he wanted to go to adult jail. It’s sad he’s just been in and out of different prisons, from San Quentin to pelican bay it seemed he enjoyed going to prison than living life outside. Now at age 30 he’s doing 55 to life. I always wondered if there was anything take could have fixed that behavior even if some individuals always had the goal of going to prison. I wonder if boot camp would have helped or just given him the discipline to be a better criminal.
This is an amazing program, it should be implemented everywhere.
I did 6 years. If this happened to me the first time I went in it would have ended my criminal career.
This BootCamp is needed in every state! DEFINITELY!!
It isn't abuse when you consider the fact as to why they're there! They need to learn RESPECT! It is not abuse, hell no!!
Hell yeah I'm loving it. Former armer infatryman and DOC sgt from the state Penn here
Army infantry