INSIDE: THE SOUTH WALES DERBY | The Story Behind Cardiff & Swansea's FIERCE Rivalry
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- čas přidán 19. 10. 2021
- Ahead of this past weekend's South Wales Derby, League Of 72 spent time with the Cardiff and Swansea fans that feel the rivalry the most.
Through conversation with supporters, staff, coaches and players, we unravelled what victory really means for the people of South Wales...
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The guy in the pub mocking Swans fans for celebrating Derby wins and then goes on about how he did when Chopra scored the winner 🙄
Exactly mate! Stupid hypocrisy
He’s what they call “self unaware”. He seems like he’s either going to burst out laughing at what he’s saying or crying. He held it together well though fair play. Must have had a cry later on
He was a fucking weapon fair play!
Swans fans are used to Cardiff bias from the Welsh media but this was ridiculous.
Stupid innit 😂
The bitterness in the guy in the pub lmfao.
He’s such a hypocrite hahaha. He says that we’ll be happy with that win, it will make us feel on par, and then says he jumped down 6 rows to hug his dad 😂🤫 🦢⚫️⚪️⚫️⚪️
Lol 😂
The cardiff fan at the pub, talking absolute bollocks🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wasn't he just🤣
True 🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a Cardiff fan, I think it's near undeniable that Swansea's management and instillment of footballing culture over the last 10 years has been miles more successful than ours. Of course, we have a greater historical presence, and I am proud of that. But in recent years, the Jacks have enjoyed much more success in terms of footballing style and longevity in the top flight. Only in the last 2-3 years Cardiff have looked to use more homegrown Welsh lads, which is fantastic, however it's something we should have been doing consistently beforehand (which the Swans were). The fan of ours in the pub who plowed on about how great we are leading the line in Welsh football is blind to the fact of how poor we have been in recent times (I'd say since the 17-18 promotion year). All in all, I'd love to see us attempt to implement a real footballing style and culture at Cardiff because at the minute we are heading down a slippery slope. I know the Jack's aren't exactly flying either, but I guess the 3-0 result at the Liberty speaks for itself.
Loved this video. Fantastic to see more people taking a greater interest in Welsh football. Dewch ymlaen, Cymru
As a Swansea fan I want to see both teams do well. This old bitter rivalry has played itself out.
Do me a favour Swansea is far superior in every way
As a swans fans, respect to u man, that was a very honest comment, look at the difference of both clubs since the 90's we're both much bigger successful clubs
As a big cardiff fan, I completely agree with you mate
Agreed
21:07 Jamie Patterson: It's just a game of football...You need to take that emotion out of it
Also Jamie Patterson: 🥅 ⚽ 🏃 🏊 🏊 🏊
See all the cardiff fans crying though 😂😂
The club got fined for that. Apparently it’s “Offensive”
Funny af how the whole way through there was a Cardiff bias and building it all up and at the end Swansea just dismantle them 3-0 for fun
Now 4-0😂😂🦢
Add 2-0, be the quadruple in April 🤣🤣
3-2 and the quad!
This year long story of thumping is phenomenal reading 🔥🔥⚪⚫🦢😂😂
Swansea have been bigger than Cardiff for at least 10 years now. People need to wake up. We are the best in Wales ⚫️⚪️⚫️⚪️ 🦢🦢🦢
How? You've never been a bigger club than Cardiff. Your lot was pissing irrelevant till your promotion in 2011. Before that you could hardly fill your ground to the max cos you had much less blinking fans. Even when we went back down to the championship first time in 2014, our fans were and still are to this day much more louder than the Liberty's. Your fans resemble the faint sound of a Library. The CCS has seen more trophies than your place has since your time in the Premier League till now. With two promotions, championship title in 2013 and second place automatic finish in 2018. We've got more trophies and history in our cabinet and past than your club as a whole. Despite our 3-0 defeat which we didn't deserve to win at all in the end, you're still behind us on derby win with 38 to our 47. You've failed loads of times to do the double over us when you've had the first win and probably will again this season. Even if you do, you'll still be in our shadow with less history, less relivence and less derby wins. Face it boyo, we are your capital!.💙🤍💙🤍🐦
@@hywelevans3084 I think what I’m hearing is a sad, salty Cardiff fan that is so hurt that they got battered by us that he has to spout bullshit to try and make himself feel better about his poor little club. Shame. Currently, Swansea and Cardiff have the same amount of attendance each game, and you have the bigger stadium because you decided to upgrade stupidly. Nobody wants to see your style of football, if it can be called football at all. Cardiff is a bigger city population wise. And yet you STILL can’t fill your stadium. It’s been 10 years Hywel. We are far more successful than you guys. And you’re scared of that. We’ve had 7 years in the premier league consecutively, 2 play off finals, the League Cup, European football AND a beautiful playing style. Stop living in the past.
Also, statistics show that since being in the English Football leagues, Swansea have actually won more derbies. Stop living in the past. Face it boyo, you’ll never compare 🦢⚫️⚪️⚫️⚪️
@@hywelevans3084 look at the population, geography, and transport links that Cardiff have. Easy links from large the populations of the valleys, Bridgend, Newport, and Barry and you can barely fill half your stadium. You should be bigger than Barcelona.
Capital this, capital that is all you ever hear from you lot. The city may have capital status but Cardiff do not have the support of a capital city club.
@@christopherdavis1092 butt, our history is bigger than yours and like I said you was irrelevant till 2011. You could hardly fill your ground till then. You've always been jealous of us. You've always and will always be in our shadow. We ain't as salty as your lot were last season when Flinty put one past you. Yeah you beat us 3-0 and we was terrible don't get me wrong. In the English league system or not, that doesn't really change the fact we still have more derby wins than you. Face up to it mun🖕💙🤍💙🤍🐦🐦🐦🐦
@@hywelevans3084 The facts are that if you take your blinkers off and look at each club's attendances in whatever league they were playing in since they left league 1 you will see that average attendances have been separated by a few thousand. When you consider that Cardiff have been more successful up until 2011 and have a bigger geographical area to attract fans from and a bigger stadium its really pathetic.
Your only come back is a silly comment about 1 goal last year.
How's the finances? Has Tan found the money to be able to sack Mccarthy yet? 🤣
What on earth is that fella in the Pub talking about. Clearly spent far too many years slapping his head.
Since the 1980s one club has ruled supreme. They play in black and white and they handed the "Capital" yet another footballing lesson on the weekend.
You don't remember the 90s do you? No one ruled supreme then!
@@wills4794 check the results think it's fair to say we battered you during the 90s
@@christopherthomas8094 In terms of what divisions we were in, it was a lot more even plus both of us were in the doldrums. Also, we were at least a division above you from 2000 for a decade.
@@wills4794 And? Means nothing when you didn't read the Prem until 2013/14
Respect to any cardiff fan that understands the swans have surpassed them
Followed my club to both. You go to Swansea & you know and feel you're in Wales. You go to Cardiff & it's just like being in any City in the U.K, it doesn't feel like you're even in Wales. That's the feeling I got.
basicallt saying swansea’s a shithole
@Welshwazza couldn't have said it better myself
Are you mad. Swansea fans are Unionists. They carry the Union Jack about to away games and all. You’ll never see a jack follow Wales
Raised in Cardiff, City fan. Still, it's obvious to anyone but the most blinkered that Swansea are a better unit and they've played better football than us for years. Best thing about Wales' rise in standard since 2014 is that we're able to see the bigger picture and cheer together when the nation is playing on the world stage.
Speaking as a mature Swans fan, I think we should grow up and get on much better. As most fans of both clubs do. Swansea is not 40 miles down the road though. Cardiff is.
Never happen
I do too
We always said "up to London" and anywhere west like Swansea, or going to Tenby on trips, was always down.
From looking at the comment section alone says a lot. No matter how much u scroll through not a single Cardiff fan in sight
kyle lad
Probably because we don’t do the talking behind a keyboard like you lot
little bit like the away end last Sunday pathetic couldn’t even fill it 🤣🤣
@@Ks-jt2rt hahahahahaha what are you doing now then ? 🤣
@@scott9846 the only time you fill your tiny shitty little rented rust bucket of a stadium is in the derby once a year, how embarrassing!
"Dare not lose that second game......" Goodnight Bluebirds.......Mines a Double
I'll double that too! 🤣🤣🤣
That guy in the pub is so deluded 😂.
“Second club in Wales” 😂 all that head slapping seems to have taken its toll!
😹😹😹😹😹
I'd rather be tapping my head than tapping my siblings🤣
@@hywelevans3084 poor comment from a fan of a very poor football club.
@@HairyMunci we've been richer than your for most of our history not just with trophies. Nice try kid😅
@@hywelevans3084 when was the last time you won a trophy ? 1927 ? Nearl a hundred years ago then. Nice try kid, the head tapping has damaged your thought process lol 😂 And now you’re on the bones of your @rse and still have the Sala payment to make. And McCarthy too lol. Administration = minus 12 points and certain relegation plus the first double for us over you . I can’t wait lol 😂
being a outsider to the fan groups all I can see is how deluded cardiff fans seem to be? (especially that guy in the pub). All seem hung up on the fact that their the Capital of Wales? What has that go to do with on pitch success?. Cardiff fan in the pub lists out all the accolades that Swansea have achieved over the past decade or so being a trophy, European football and top flight success but then says theyre still smaller? I think Swansea has surpassed Cardiff my friend
I’m glad someone with no bias can see it as well! It’s laughable really, kind of like he’s trying to convince himself. This video has aged pretty well after the 4-0 thrashing we give them at their own ground 🤣
Yupp
Cardiff fan definitely cried himself to sleep that night, can see it in his eyes
Don’t know who that mwsh is in the pub trying to convince, the public or himself but it hasn’t worked sweat pea! #neverbeatthejacks
Oh and efl72 if you fancy doing one with a Swansea perspective, that would be great👍
geezer in the pub contradicts himself all the time, saying they have more fans yet they have a much bigger city, shows how thick they really are?
Love this
Well swansea literally is bigger as a city, search it up
@@maxccfc1927 No it’s not, Cardiff have around 100,000 more residents
@@bibu4932 that’s why it’s the capital,but land wise swansea is bigger
@@maxccfc1927 Yeah but that’s irrelevant, it just means there’s more fields
Enjoyed that, cheers!
Swansea are the superior club and have been for the last 15 years and I'm from England and support Chelsea completely neutral
Yes your a bitter Chelsea fan because we smashed you all the way up the Kings Road. 🤣🤣🤣💤💤
*you're
agree mate, cardiff are so far behind swansea in football terms. theyre jealous as f... of our team. scumbags the lot of em
nah ya not neutral .....like swansea you have a huge racist right wing following .....
first time in history for the league double up the jacks #jacksarmy
Enjoyed this vid. Anyone outside of Cardiff or Swansea who I speak to til say Swans are the better club :-) Such a fantastic rivalry though - love it.
The worse thing about the Derby these days is if you are a Swansea fan living in Cardiff and want to go to the Derby at the Lego Stadium. You have to travel to Swansea to get the official travel back to Cardiff, then when the game is over you need to travel back on the bus to Swansea to travel back home to Cardiff 😂😂
Dont live in Cardiff then YJB.Although it spks volumes that you do!
@@tomo366 glad to here it,dont want any JBs down here.
Great video, Loved it… Loved it even more with 3 goals & 3 points to finish it off though!😂🙌 JACK ARMY 🦢
Enjoyed the last 2 minutes of this docu
Same! The Cardiff lot talked shit for 20 minutes, then at the end, for good measure, it showed us slapping 3 past them 🤣
The guy at 7:58 is talking out of his arse
Says how much better swansea are than cardiff then says cardiff are better than swansea 😂😂waffle
I can't believe they allowed that guy to spout his contradictory drivel, he's an embarrassment to all Welsh football fans, whoever you support.
@@Mr1979flapjack facts upon facts
Police need to check that guys hard drive with that shifty moustache
CARDIFF GET BATTERED EVERYWHERE THEY GO!! 🏊🏊🦢🦢
Swansea then proceed to get beaten by Birmingham 🤔
@@benlewis2130 1 game my guy
Watching this now, that guy in the pub Charlie Cridland what an absolute melt, STID 🏴 🦢🦢
"We're not trying to emulate Swansea." Right you're staying in the championship lol. :)
And you are lol
Somehow I don’t think so…….
We're hoping to
@@HairyMunci your really not going no where mate your wank 75% possession passing round the back means nothing if your not scoring goals
@@Ks-jt2rt 3 not enough then mate ? Or did you want more ha ha ha ? I think we’ll hit 6 at the big concourse stadium - make sure you turn up unlike your team
As a Leeds fan i will always be indebted to Swansea for giving us Pablo . How you could let him go is beyond me the guy keeping him out the team must have been some player
i met a swansea leeds fan he even said thats a clash, im on a banning order swansea fan yuhh, be good to sere leeds again
Swansea have surpassed Cardiff. Look at the style, infrastructure, and how the clubs are operated. Cardiff city is a dinosaur living on fumes and Swansea are building a sustainable long-term project. Leaps and bounds ahead.
Facts
We surpassed them a good decade ago
DUH DUH DUH DUH ANDY RAMOS
They've been in our shadow for the last 12 years
Hahahahahahaha
Lovely to watch this after the double double been made especially hearing the comments of the Cardiff fan at 7:55
I'm a Cardiff fan and any Cardiff fan that thinks we have the upper hand over Swansea needs to give their head a wobble. We've not had it since 2009 at least.
Swansea great city love it
You can tell by the look on his face that the Cardiff fan in the pub knows he’s talking out of his arse😂
23 minutes of ‘it’s an important game’ lol. I get it!
Watching this lad talk about how cardiff are setting the example football wise after cardiff just lost 8 on the bounce and without a manager lol
Never Beat The Jack's ⚪⚫🦢
@ 21:05 - "It's just a game of football at the end of the day"
Jamie Paterson will go down well at Swansea saying that. To the fans, and the players from both teams who are actually from the respective cities, the Swansea v Cardiff derbies are anything but just another game 😆
There is a broader tapestry here to consider and that is regardless of the rivalry Welsh football has come on leaps and bounds in the last 10 years. Neither team may never be as successful as Man U or Arsenal, but not so long ago we were playing these teams in their league. We've both got there before and we can both do it again. In an ideal world both teams would get on and support each other, but nobody is going to make that first move are they? This documentary proves that. Then again maybe the rivalry needs to continue. Nothing makes you improve your own game better than competition.
Im a Cardiff fan and I know we have fallen off atm, hopefully get it back soon
As a Chelsea fan went with the jacks 3 times home and away against Cardiff was mad asmospore fair to say they don’t like each other
CAPITAL OF WELSH FOOTBALL
WAY DOWN BY THE SEA 🏴⚪️⚫️🏁🦢
when i'll follow swansea, swansea cityyyy
That kid in the pub 🤣🤣 no idea what he's talking about bless him. The swans are by far the superior club, better footballing side, better run club, bigger fan base and more recently the past decade or 2 far more success on the pitch than Cardiff have achieved in their history. By watching this short film on its own you realise why the swans fans always feel they have to get one over that lot up the road. Horrible conceited arrogant lot.
Truth
Don’t have a bigger fanbase mate
@@benwithers4117 it’s very close, and it shouldn’t be considering cardiff is a much bigger city and area.
@@petermills755 Cardiff’s a much more international and multicultural city than Swansea, the white population of both cities isn’t drastically different, and also Cardiff have been worse in the last 10 years yet still get more fans
You should've done for this Forest v derby
he names cup success, europe, premier league for 7 years but still not a bigger club. were now both in the championship and were still more successful. has this guy lost his mind.
The double, double. Says it all 👍
Let’s stop comparing Swansea and Cardiff, the Swans are above and beyond Cardiff and more successful, two seasons in the PL since the 60’s is not what “big” clubs achieve hahaha, Swansea are miles ahead of them
jacks fans in this comments absolutely brimming with anger
Ah yes, Paul Abbandonato, the most biased journalist.
A complete tosser
Biggest wanker about
being a shite journalist is a requirement to work for wales online
A documentary made in Cardiff to help Cardiff fans still believe they’re the biggest football club in Wales. Not anymore Searle, Perry, Legg , Cardiff Journalist and bitter fella in the pub. 😹
"Swansea was founded on copper and Cardiff was founded on coal"
They've been saying there's no future in coal for a while right? :P
The guy in the boxing ring's voice hasn't broken
Andy Legg, from a jack to a King.
Fair play ..love rivalries and derby's, but anyone saying there is nothing else like this one, ain't been to Rangers v ce%$ic
Jason Perry Cardiff legend.
08:50 "the wheels have fallen off"
Cmon Dave, we appear to be growing again and Mccarthy should've been sacked before you even played us 😂
the double 7-0 in total ,just smile
7-0 on aggregate the double is done
We are doing the double this season
When you consider just how " big " Cardiff City is made out to be, i.e. , representing the Capital of Wales, much larger catchment area, larger ground for that reason, etc., etc., it beggars the question, " Why don't Cardiff beat Swansea every time they play ? How come Swansea had a seven season stint at the top table, while Cardiff could only survive one season, albeit on two separate occasions.
Cardiff City brought shame on both themselves, the City and the Nation, by having to fend off numerous threats of being wound up for not paying their taxes. Is that what " big " Clubs do ?
Cardiff City STILL haven't settled the transfer fee they owe Nantes for the unfortunate Emiliano Sala. They trotted him out as their player. Had him holding their shirt, scarf around his neck, etc. Yet when push came to shove, claimed " He was never our player ". Disgusting behaviour from this self appointed " big Club "
The bottom line is that Cardiff City, the football Club, are reviled throughout the land, and further afield.
I don't know any neutral who has a good word to say about them.
Swansea City, on the other hand, are admired and revered on the world stage.
Come on you Swans'.
Someone have a word with that deluded Cardiff fan in the pub. 😂😂😂😂
Emulate Cardiff? Naah, Swansea just couldn't manage to beat Cardiff's 7 league defeats in a row.
@Chet Manly I do now! 😂
This must have been filmed before the recent 3-0 annihilation. Roll on April tick tock tick tock
Looking forward to it mate
Alright a bit late but oh well. So a few months ago I had a school trip for the last few weeks of school (I’m going into year 11) and we went to Cardiff Castle, so when we went past Cardiff stadium we all started booing them, best few minstrel of school.
Cardiff fans have to be the most deluded fans in the country 😂
Cardiff seem so fascinated about attendance's. . .
In all fairness, Cardiff do sell out every single home game. It's just that some of their fans like to dress up as empty seats.
How about a reaction from the biased half after this game eh? #efl
Yet they can't even sell out a Derby game
@@crovian1985 we did sell out just not selling at full capacity yet
@@crovian1985 we did sell out you lot just gave us about 500 seats
This video sucks up to Cardiff so much ahahahhaa
I’ve been on the Swansea end when copper had dart in his head years ago and you didn’t do us 30 odd lads from Llanrumney
It's a really good documentary and as a cardiff fan I have my bias but as much as we hate it Swansea have had great success, but still has got them nowhere even with 7 years in the prem and a league cup win the fanbase hasn't grown at all but Cardiff's history is still greater and always will be and nothing will change that and Cardiff will have its resurgence but right now we are in a pit and Swansea are still showing us up on derby day which is just embarrassing
Swansea have a massive international fanbase and multiple times the social media presence that cardiff has. They have the largest amount of followers on social media of any efl club besides stoke and that’s directly due to the years spent in the prem and the time in europe . No one really knows cardiff outside of the uk because they went up just to be cannon fodder for everyone else while swans made things happen. In terms of a world scope swans have a much bigger fanbase than cardiff now and the numbers back it up
That's great and all but quite frankly I dont care if some bloke in Argentina knows who cardiff is and wont ever go to a match all I care about is how many fans we have in person and at games and on native soil in Wales and in that regard we've won that competition
@@benlewis2130 i mean if you look at your recent attendances clearly not. Couldn’t fill up your allocation for the derby and then playing league games in more than half empty stadiums
And you can? Sorry but that's bullshit even with a stadium of 20,000 capacity you only sell out for thr derby so that isn't a valid argument and it's not like were gonna sell out a 30,000 capacity ground every bloody game mate
@@benlewis2130 Hi Ben, I dont know how to tell you this mate, but in your second season in the premier league, you didnt sell lego land out once. Not once. Not only that, but your attendances HALVED the second you dropped out the prem... Swansea's dropped less than 10%. Your average attendance last season? 17,834 (52% capacity)... Swansea had 16,547 (78% capacity). Also, the population of Cardiff is double that of Swansea. Check your facts :)
5:06 Well that aged as well as a fish in a used sock.
Love Russel Martin
I’m pretty sure Southampton Portsmouth had the bubble system
No comments at the end???? Awww
I support Bradford but I think Swansea are better and always have been as they have been in Europe and won league cup against us
That cardiff kid in the pub looks like a Townhill mush from the 90s with that moustache 🤣🤣🤣
swansea couldn’t sellout swd before bubble trips btw says it all
We literally did, you lot didn't 🤣🤣🤣
It's mad that anyone thinks Cardiff are better than Swansea these days. Swansea have taken over Cardiff as the best welsh club in the world.
Cardiff got the money, Swansea got the soul 🦢
Cardiff don't have the money either
Yes I’m a swans fan but how can that guy in the pub or anyone in Wales try and say Cardiff is a bigger club is actually smoking crack😂
is there a North Wales Derby?
Yes. Bangor city v Rhyl.
Abbandonato/Legg and the rest are conflating two issues - yes Cardiff are the bigger city, but that doesn't make them the bigger or more successful club in any way, and no footballing inferiority is felt (that's obvious) on the part of Swansea fans. As for city size, to feel an inferior human being based on how many people live around you is just ridiculous, and not very realistic either. I suppose Cardiff fans would like to cherish the illusion that people are jealous of them, but that just doesn't make sense in the real world.
4-0 🤷♂️
Fantastic documentary. Both clubs have had a fair bit of success with Cardiff winning the FA cup and Swansea winning the league cup. It’s a tough one to say who has had better history but I think winning the FA cup is far better than winning the league cup, I’ve always seen Cardiff as the representation of Welsh football but no hatred towards Swansea fans, both very passionate and loud when travelling away.
The last Welsh team to have a place in the premier league was Cardiff.
The team with the most wins in the SWD is Cardiff.
The best ever Welsh players come from Cardiff.
The team with the biggest fan base is Cardiff.
The first and only team to win the FA Cup in Wales is Cardiff.
(Short answer it’s Cardiff by a country mile.) 👍
26 minute film dedicated to Cardiff who had all the interviews yet it means more to swans fans!!
Feckin turn it in will ya!! Jack Army.
3.0 and 4.0. Who is the biggest team in Wales???
WHO ARE WE ?
The two places are 45 miles apart !
Whose the plebs in the pub we aren't trying to be no1 WE ARE NO1 always will be
That guy in the pub is a melt
When you turned round and saw a stranger that was your other dad ask your mother🤣🤣🤣🤣
'Cardiff as a club have been the example to set' - does he mean example to follow? And where does he get that idea from? Which moment of success have Swansea been desperate to emulate then
Jack's will never carry the aura of Cardiff City, period The Famous Bluebirds will always be numero uno, the Premier is not all that. I would rather see Cardiff in league two than that scruffy lot in the Premier.
It hurts Cardiff fans so much more when they lose, because they can't pretend they're superior.
Swansea fans are so obsessed oml
Just seen a interview with Cardiff topboy Abraham and he said there was no fierce rivalry, Newport County was more of a threat than Swansea.
Hahaha keep living in delusion. Swansea European tours, 7 years in the prem but League 2 Newport are the rizz? Give over you helmet.