How One Club Became Two Enemies | MK Dons & AFC Wimbledon

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  • čas přidán 9. 12. 2016
  • This is the story of how in 2002, Wimbledon FC spilt to become two clubs: MK Dons & AFC Wimbledon.
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  • @AntonyAng34
    @AntonyAng34 Před 7 lety +1179

    a great respect for AFC Wimbledon fans.

    • @Callum290600
      @Callum290600 Před 7 lety

      Antony Ang j

    • @tmbrown2409
      @tmbrown2409 Před 6 lety +9

      Who let there club die and started a new one yer respect that haha what a melt.

    • @brendonutjita
      @brendonutjita Před 6 lety +38

      tom mate your not ard you have a playlist named tom

    • @metallion9712
      @metallion9712 Před 5 lety

      Brendon Peck//ITFC you’re my good at grammar

    • @kirbylp980
      @kirbylp980 Před 5 lety +4

      @@tmbrown2409 you fucker

  • @bwanalog8849
    @bwanalog8849 Před 7 lety +104

    Being a Wimbledon fan, I absolutely love this comments section

  • @synthesizerpatel7405
    @synthesizerpatel7405 Před 7 lety +2196

    Yes, get rid of the 'Dons' from MK Dons, (especially now the real Dons are back in the League), and think of a name that actually has something to do with Milton Keynes the city. MK Roundabouts, perhaps?

    • @swerve1721
      @swerve1721 Před 7 lety +93

      Synthesizer Patel MK straight roads or MK duel carriageways 😂

    • @welisnabs6117
      @welisnabs6117 Před 7 lety +4

      Synthesizer Patel 😂😂😂

    • @SteamedHams3
      @SteamedHams3 Před 7 lety +4

      Synthesizer Patel

    • @OfficialFlaxxyy
      @OfficialFlaxxyy Před 7 lety +63

      MK holy fuck what a grey shithole it is

    • @francislancedavid629
      @francislancedavid629 Před 7 lety +34

      Synthesizer Patel Milton Keynes FC or MKFC Would be a good name

  • @n.c.37
    @n.c.37 Před 6 lety +61

    Even in France, story of MK Dons and AFC Wimbledon is famous! Thanks guys!

    • @RockSmithStudio
      @RockSmithStudio Před rokem +1

      Ya, thanks to John and Hank Green, many from the States/Canada also know both very well

  • @DavidVujanic
    @DavidVujanic Před 7 lety +677

    Love seeing Eli on my screen again

  • @joywinho
    @joywinho Před 7 lety +862

    Ok now I understand why people hate MK Dons. Thank you Copa! :)

    • @BigChris1998
      @BigChris1998 Před 7 lety +22

      so you must hate them too because jumping on a bandwagon is cool and thinking for yourself isnt

    • @joywinho
      @joywinho Před 7 lety +33

      BigChris1998 what?

    • @pphyjynx8217
      @pphyjynx8217 Před 7 lety +106

      there is a difference in understanding something and agreeing with it...Leshon never said he hated Mk dons, he just understands why people hate them.

    • @joywinho
      @joywinho Před 7 lety +18

      PP Hyjynx exactly!

    • @chasesweeneyy
      @chasesweeneyy Před 7 lety +1

      Leshon JL lol but meanwhile I didn't know about why people hated MK Dons either because I watch Spanish football

  • @johnaarson
    @johnaarson Před 7 lety +888

    I didn't know MK Dons had given the rights and trophies "back" to Wimbledon. That was huge and honestly it does soften the harm they've done to the "true" Dons. In the end fair play prevailed. :)

    • @Redheisenberg
      @Redheisenberg Před 7 lety +53

      They should change their name

    • @johnaarson
      @johnaarson Před 7 lety +44

      I'm also with them in that aspect: if the fans agree to a name change, yes. But if not, it should stay like it is. The fact that they are named "Dons" doesn't affect negatively the true Dons anyway. If they like it, they can stick with it.

    • @HTCGaming1000
      @HTCGaming1000 Před 7 lety +10

      John Aarson No. No fucking way mate

    • @johnaarson
      @johnaarson Před 7 lety +5

      How come?

    • @HTCGaming1000
      @HTCGaming1000 Před 7 lety +19

      John Aarson Just giving their trophies back doesn't make up for it all. What about their club, their identity? They don't have that

  • @littleboy1273
    @littleboy1273 Před 7 lety +518

    You can hate the Dons as much as you like but the fact they beat United 4-0 is bloody hilarious

    • @AS-rf6rw
      @AS-rf6rw Před 4 lety +2

      true

    • @aidantownsend941
      @aidantownsend941 Před 4 lety +42

      They are not the dons

    • @aidantownsend941
      @aidantownsend941 Před 4 lety +19

      They should be called mk franchise instead

    • @seadogs3149
      @seadogs3149 Před 4 lety +7

      MK have one of the best stadiums in the football league

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking Před 4 lety +4

      SEA DOGS It may be. But the people who did that to Wimbledon supporters should be machine gunned into a ditch.

  • @sheeno3882
    @sheeno3882 Před 7 lety +231

    this is actually really interesting.

  • @shenko_
    @shenko_ Před 7 lety +915

    MK dons, Millwall and RB Leipzig are the most hated clubs in the world.

    • @brigate-rossonere757
      @brigate-rossonere757 Před 7 lety +111

      you forget Juventus and Barcelona

    • @ultrasmilantv7519
      @ultrasmilantv7519 Před 7 lety +39

      More Chelsea, United and Tottenham respect at Arsenal. For me more hated : 1. Chelsea 2. Tottenham 3. City 4. United 5. Millwall 6. Arsenal. i respect West Ham, Newcastle, Everton and a little for Liverpool.

    • @ElectroMonkeyz
      @ElectroMonkeyz Před 7 lety +11

      No.

    • @louismcmillan3449
      @louismcmillan3449 Před 7 lety +81

      Ultras Milan your top 5 hated teams are English even though your a Milan "ultra"

    • @ultrasmilantv7519
      @ultrasmilantv7519 Před 7 lety +28

      +Chelsea home and away Chelsea no football fans base no history no tradition, only big money.

  • @Dan-gv2zy
    @Dan-gv2zy Před 7 lety +315

    I'm from Milton Keynes, I'm ashamed of this club.

  • @mich8050
    @mich8050 Před 4 lety +25

    Johan Cruyff was part of the group that tried to move Wimbledon to Dublin and wrote in his autobiography 'My Turn' that he couldn't understand the problem with moving a club from London to Ireland and having an Irish team playing in the English League system. Luckily those with a brain filled with common sense prevailed on that one.
    No disputing that Cruyff was a great footballer, he's one of the greatest of all time, but when it came to understanding the feelings of others and general common sense he was the furthest from great that it is possible to be.

    • @DaveWraptastic
      @DaveWraptastic Před rokem

      I'm Dutch but if that is true, Cruyff was a fucking idiot.

    • @kemchy3838
      @kemchy3838 Před rokem +2

      Imagine the away days. A nice weekend trip to Dublin soumds great

  • @lbizzle3234
    @lbizzle3234 Před 7 lety +642

    "Franchise football is disastrous" Hear that America?

    • @DevilsChild222
      @DevilsChild222 Před 7 lety +7

      L Bizzle you tell em bro

    • @pphyjynx8217
      @pphyjynx8217 Před 7 lety +96

      everything in america is a franchise...even Schools

    • @aaronquevedo9099
      @aaronquevedo9099 Před 7 lety +16

      PP Hyjynx Not really

    • @jerry85g7
      @jerry85g7 Před 5 lety +26

      @@pphyjynx8217 Even prison

    • @dutchdettweiler
      @dutchdettweiler Před 5 lety +36

      were still high as giraffe pussy in the honeymoon phase. but eventually people will realize no one owns their team. every team is owned by the league. I'm a Toronto FC fan and the league just banned for life our number one supporters group Inebriatti over the actions of 2 or 3 fans. this would never happen in europe and its happening everywhere in MLS. they want a family friendly experience. They show the chants and flares when theyre selling it but they dont want it in the stadium once they have a succesful franchise

  • @E_99LDN
    @E_99LDN Před 7 lety +604

    MK DONS is everything a football club shouldn't be

    • @moho7779
      @moho7779 Před 5 lety +24

      What bringing through young talent like dele alli making jobs in the area bringing the locals a team to support

    • @vibesonv4981
      @vibesonv4981 Před 5 lety +3

      Sorry didn’t realise a disagreement is what football shouldn’t be

    • @redflag8970
      @redflag8970 Před 4 lety +10

      mk dons is what became of wimbledon when locals in merton didnt want the club. they have done nothing wrong.

    • @melojordans23
      @melojordans23 Před 4 lety +2

      Nah it’s Manchester United/Manchester City.

    • @raymondbonington9355
      @raymondbonington9355 Před 4 lety +2

      red flag most football fans from Merton support Chelsea Fulham or palace .

  • @syxs621
    @syxs621 Před 4 lety +6

    WIMBLEDON...... My heart goes out to them supporters it was a crime against football, so much respect for the lads that fought for there club, I grew up as a massive Wimbledon rival but, I couldn’t imagine that pain of losing your club, so respect for them original supporters now....

  • @ThePizza911
    @ThePizza911 Před 7 lety +33

    "And given a Football League side to the local community of Buckinghamshire." I think Wycombe Wanderers might have something to say about that.

    • @djlarbz
      @djlarbz Před 5 lety +8

      do you know how much of an ass it is to get from mk to wycombe

  • @HalfdanMCMX
    @HalfdanMCMX Před 7 lety +165

    Long live AFC Wimbledon! We stand behind you at Malmö FF.

    • @theaveragegamer8190
      @theaveragegamer8190 Před 7 lety +6

      Qonstantin Braeburn thanks mate love our club went to Wimbledon mk we were unfortunate to lose but the atmosphere was great the play off final last year 2-0 vs Plymouth best day of my life

    • @Nile15rush_fj
      @Nile15rush_fj Před 7 lety +1

      Finley Root you little gobshite

    • @HalfdanMCMX
      @HalfdanMCMX Před 7 lety +6

      The average Gamer Cheers, mate. Such a shame that you lost, but you'll crush them at home. Hopefully I'll get to attend an AFC game if I visit London in the future. Hope you're playing higher up in the system then!
      I just wish your kits were a bit better looking, the only thing preventing me from getting one! I preferred the old FC ones from the 90's!
      Best of luck!

    • @benwheeler8456
      @benwheeler8456 Před 5 lety

      @finnerzz channel at least there not fake

    • @benwheeler8456
      @benwheeler8456 Před 5 lety

      @finnerzz channel at least he's not giving away his identity finley root

  • @JulianGreenbank
    @JulianGreenbank Před 4 lety +59

    My Dad always said there are at least 2 things every English football fan can agree on:
    Don't buy the Sun
    What happened to Wimbledon was atrocious
    I agree, I think MK should drop the Dons. Come up with a name that makes them stand out more

    • @markharrison6927
      @markharrison6927 Před 3 lety +8

      Mk plastics

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi Před 3 lety +2

      @@markharrison6927 Honestly, it wouldn't matter. They've officially renounced their claim to the history and identity of the original Wimbledon club, which is a step in the right direction, but they _have_ to change their name for that to be taken seriously.

    • @vijaysiv
      @vijaysiv Před 2 lety +2

      Honestly Milton Keynes football club doesn't sound bad

    • @aphyTTR
      @aphyTTR Před 2 lety +1

      M.K. F.C.

    • @aidanwotherspoon905
      @aidanwotherspoon905 Před měsícem

      With their pathetic home crowds in their 30k seat stadium, they should just renounce any league status they stole from Wimbledon and start at the bottom of the pyramid like literally every other club

  • @shanekelley7682
    @shanekelley7682 Před 6 lety +12

    Wimbledon AFC, As a football fan, I'm glad you came back! I hope Premier League football returns for you and your brilliant, loyal fans.

    • @sheffsteel7
      @sheffsteel7 Před rokem

      No sure how old you are but they were terrible for the Premier League, average home crowds of 7K with some down to 3K and away crowds of 150. Also very physical long ball football, at the time most British football fans wanted them to be relegated and replaced by a team with more deserving fans.

    • @elliottspokemon2654
      @elliottspokemon2654 Před 3 měsíci

      @@sheffsteel7at the time many just thought they were bad no one wanted a fake place that hound not even exist to mug a football club

  • @kumatoni5245
    @kumatoni5245 Před 7 lety +156

    Won the FA Cup on penalties, you say? Pretty sure it was a 1-0 win.

    • @townfanjohn
      @townfanjohn Před 6 lety +1

      Sanchez free kick I always thought

    • @townfanjohn
      @townfanjohn Před 6 lety +1

      My mistake Sanchez header from corner

    • @sanjdetox71
      @sanjdetox71 Před 6 lety +1

      yeah

    • @magicbeatle48
      @magicbeatle48 Před 6 lety +14

      No, Sanchez header from a Dennis Wise Free Kick.

    • @NmpK24
      @NmpK24 Před 5 lety +2

      Don't think they even settled the FA Cup final on penalties back then, was usually replays. The final 2 years after Wimbledon's win between Man Utd and Palace went to a replay.

  • @funnyonev4949
    @funnyonev4949 Před 6 lety +25

    Growing up in MK (from the age of 2) like alot of my generation I already had "my team" long before MK Dons and find it hard to associste with the club that play in my home town of the past 32 years.
    Like Wimbledon fans, I've been through the ups & downs with my boyhood club Coventry City. Still in very uncertain times and now in a home stadium we don't own with no guarantees on where we will play next season.
    I attend MK Dons games with my young son who is a FOOTBALL fan, he's not a fan of a club or a player or a brand - we go to watch the GAME - the sport. He has an unblinkered, unbiased, almost innocent view which sometimes I would love to have. Alot of clubs in history have had hard times, money talks and decisions made by people out of greed affects the people paying to watch most.
    I don't attend these games to fund the team (although ultimately my money goes there) but to enjoy something with my son we both love.
    I feel for the fans of Wimbledon and just want them to know that the club they loved and enjoyed watching will never be forgotten. I used to enjoy watching the crazy gang as a kid with my dad, staying up late to watch match of they day - some of my best times as he worked so much.
    MK Dons & AFC Wimbledon are for the next generation, rivalries in sport are what make it exciting.

    • @kemchy3838
      @kemchy3838 Před rokem +2

      Why did you support conventry growing up in Milton Keynes

    • @user-yf4gx9lw6c
      @user-yf4gx9lw6c Před rokem

      This is a very interesting comment. I’m a cov fan as well So I’m wandering what made you pick the sky blues?

  • @mattershack5206
    @mattershack5206 Před 7 lety +40

    It's incredible that Wimbledon are already in a higher position than MK dons

  • @thetacticalgenius2045
    @thetacticalgenius2045 Před 7 lety +178

    'To bring a football club to the Buckinghamshire community'
    Erm, we already had one. Wycombe Wanderers, bucks number one.

    • @h3nder
      @h3nder Před 7 lety +1

      TheTacticalGenius Why didn't he move them to the new stadium?

    • @professorpinmanfr
      @professorpinmanfr Před 6 lety

      TheTacticalGenius

    • @oufcfan5100
      @oufcfan5100 Před 6 lety +2

      poor people of Buckinghamshire then

    • @readingfc83
      @readingfc83 Před 5 lety

      Wycombe are shite tho

    • @LazarouDave
      @LazarouDave Před 5 lety +1

      Wycombe ain't the only place in Buckinghamshire though pal, every city deserves a club, no matter how it came about

  • @brotherbruti
    @brotherbruti Před 7 lety +17

    I'm a Montreal Impact and Arsenal supporter and have been for years (IMFC: 10, ARS: 5). I discovered this story about a year or two ago when John Green talked about it and sponsored the club. I just loved how the fans decided that they were going to build back their legacy that was wrongfully stolen from them. The rise of AFC since 2002 has been absolutely crazy. I'm 20, so I'm still young and I have time, but I really wish I see AFC Wimbledon become a Premier League club before I die. Only two promotions to go!

    • @cipriandanorasanu9414
      @cipriandanorasanu9414 Před 9 měsíci

      Fuck off yanc. THE WOMBLES HAD NO MONEY THEY MOVED TO MILTON KEYNES! Up the franchise !! ⚪️😘

  • @sambrown2126
    @sambrown2126 Před 7 lety +32

    A team for the local Buckinghamshire community? Wycombe Wanderers are in Buckinghamshire and are doing it right. Owned by the fans, for the fans.

  • @jamesv1995
    @jamesv1995 Před 7 lety +4

    Missed mini documentaries like these. Keep these going!

  • @deekae6801
    @deekae6801 Před 2 lety +21

    Honestly one of the saddest backstories of two football clubs ever.

  • @AuthenticDarren
    @AuthenticDarren Před 4 lety +11

    Wimbledon won the FA cup 1-0 in normal time I believe. Although Wimbledon goalkeeper Dave Beasant did save a penalty as well as making a ton of other outstanding saves against a huge Liverpool side and was made man of the match if I remember rightly.

  • @MrRodzilla
    @MrRodzilla Před 5 lety +15

    I refused an offer to manage MK Dons in football manager even though I was desperate for a job

  • @valantisandriakopoylos5864

    And tomorrow they return to Plough Lane. What a journey for the dons. Best r yet to come

  • @fcbFreack
    @fcbFreack Před 7 lety

    Awesome that you bring back these documentations!

  • @U_C_G
    @U_C_G Před 7 lety

    Copa 90 do have some of the best made videos on youtube, always impressed with the quality

  • @robworthington2673
    @robworthington2673 Před 7 lety +4

    One of the best videos of watched on CZcams. Keep it up

  • @abhinavrock94
    @abhinavrock94 Před 7 lety +5

    We need more videos like this. Keep up the good work. (y)

  • @andydeng7357
    @andydeng7357 Před 7 lety +1

    good film, well researched, nicely presented, look forward to watching more of these

  • @MsVixxen
    @MsVixxen Před 7 lety +118

    If they dropped the "Dons" suffix from their name then fans of every other club might not hate MK so much

    • @whoareyawhoareya8820
      @whoareyawhoareya8820 Před 5 lety +3

      Would still hate em

    • @mikehunt7810
      @mikehunt7810 Před 5 lety +10

      They could go out of the football league and I'd still hate them. They should be relegated to the bottom tier and have to earn their place. Then they wouldn't be hated as much

    • @moho7779
      @moho7779 Před 5 lety +2

      Wimbledon fans requested that dons stsyed in the name to keep the connection to wimbeldon

    • @AldershotDave
      @AldershotDave Před 5 lety +7

      They should be called Milton Keynes Town.

    • @Cespar997
      @Cespar997 Před 5 lety +2

      @@moho7779 u wot we asked them to remove it and we hate that they still think they're dons. WimbleDON it's blatant identity theft and you all know it

  • @Prolix8
    @Prolix8 Před 7 lety +5

    Good documentary, I'm happy that you stated the drop in attendance in the 90s which was - eventually - the downfall of Wimbledon FC and the opposite with AFC which can now look forward to move back to Merton (the only thing you forgot to mention in your piece).

  • @karlraynes1986
    @karlraynes1986 Před 5 lety +6

    There are many, many teams with the name 'United', Sheffield United started off as a cricket team in the late 1800's and eventually decided to bring in a football team to replace "The Wednesday', who had relocated to the northern part of Sheffield.
    There are so many teams that have followed suit and what's frustrating about that is that when you hear the name 'United' you automatically think of Manchester United. We Blades fans have learned to live with that but many still give a polite reminder that the ORIGINAL United is Sheffield United.
    As for MK & Wimbledon - after several generations have passed, maybe it'll just become the norm and everyone will be used to the idea. For now though, it's still fresh in the minds of the Wimbledon fans and I understand their frustration after everything they've been through.

  • @harveysmith100
    @harveysmith100 Před 7 lety +2

    It was great what the Wimbledon fans did. I have followed them ever since.
    I hope the Welly boys still do.

  • @jonboxleitner7354
    @jonboxleitner7354 Před 6 lety +1

    Good several quotes from MK Dons owner at the end.
    Very informative piece. Thanks.

  • @michael5746
    @michael5746 Před 7 lety +151

    Dons are going up! And the franchise going down franchise going down!

  • @Ohfishyfishyfish
    @Ohfishyfishyfish Před 6 lety +3

    I lived in Milton Keynes during this whole thing. I loved football, played it every day, and played at the only "big clubs" in the area, Rushden and Diamonds (once a league side, now defunct), and Newport Pagnell. This was in the few years before the MK Dons existed.
    The thing about Milton Keynes is that nobody is really from here. The city itself was designated as a new city in the 70s. At that time it was a collection of villages. Milton Keynes happened to be the name of the most central village. It was designated a new city since it's roughly equidistant between London and Birmingham. It was built to house the population overspill of those two cities. Football support follows with families. I'm an Arsenal fan because my dad is. My friends are Tottenham fans, Newcastle fans, Aston Villa fans, Chelsea fans for the same reason. I moved to Milton Keynes when I was 8 and left when I was 18. That means I was raised mostly in Milton Keynes, but I never say I'm from Milton Keynes. There's nothing to be proud of, there's no identity to the city.
    I'm glad he mentioned the amateur Milton Keynes side in the video, since the way I thought they should have done it was to pump mad money into that team and watch it shoot up the divisions. That could have been something to get behind. The way it played out was an even bigger joke. That's what the team is in Milton Keynes. A big joke. I see more Watford shirts around MK than MK Dons shirts. Let that sink in. A football team is the symbol for a city. They could have gone about it the right way, but instead they imported a team for immediate gains, kind of... they imported a team to make investors happy, who really didn't understand anything about football.
    I want to make a correction to the video. The MK Dons played in the National Hockey Stadium for the first 3-4 years of their existence. Just a small stadium, which was very much MK Dons' level. Nothing like the stadium:mk which rivals most Premier League stadiums, with room for 15k more expansion, which will probably never be warranted, because there is no thirst for football that can't be quenched after an hour on a train due south. Football clubs in England were established before and between the wars, when people didn't travel, when nobody but the rich had cars. This is when and how the culture of football was established. I think this is why the sports fan culture is so different between the US and Europe; pro teams in America became big after the war, when people had access to travel. Incidentally, Milton Keynes the city was modeled on Houston, Texas; big city centre, sprawling suburbs, grid design, can't get anywhere without a car; an 80s Conservatives' wet dream. That sums it up; Milton Keynes is a little island of American soil in the middle of England (no offense to Americans). Franchise FC is ridiculed by the residents, but completely at home in Milton Keynes, the cultureless capital of the EU.

    • @Minx5892
      @Minx5892 Před 5 lety

      Ohfishyfishyfish So MK sucks for just starting to exist. I'm not defending the rubbish way the team came into existence, but towns have to start from somewhere.

  • @user-sw2lv3zp6o
    @user-sw2lv3zp6o Před 6 lety

    Excellent mini-documentary.
    I have subscribed.

  • @smurry1116
    @smurry1116 Před 4 lety +4

    Wimbledon may be MK Dons, but their heart and soul is with AFC Wimbledon

  • @BA-uo1pq
    @BA-uo1pq Před 7 lety +296

    If you are above about 15 and you support MK Dons you are all that is wrong about football

    • @TheBloodsuger150
      @TheBloodsuger150 Před 7 lety +71

      Ben A can't really blame people for living in MK...

    • @felixsears5204
      @felixsears5204 Před 7 lety

      Ben A I support Colchester

    • @BA-uo1pq
      @BA-uo1pq Před 7 lety +26

      I don't mind the young fans of MK - it's all they've ever known - but those who turn up in their late 20's who supported Man United till they were 12 or whatever make the club what it is.

    • @maxburlace7157
      @maxburlace7157 Před 7 lety +4

      Ben A I'm 13 in MK. I knew half of the story but not the full story. Jeeez

    • @MrBestofGaming
      @MrBestofGaming Před 7 lety +5

      Ben A what about the people who live there...

  • @ZeyaRudaRozena97
    @ZeyaRudaRozena97 Před 6 lety +49

    only 2 teams should be called "the dons".
    AFC WIMBLEDON AND ABERDEEN

  • @ranjanbiswas3233
    @ranjanbiswas3233 Před 5 lety +2

    I'll always love and respect all fan powered clubs.

  • @aidancassidy1654
    @aidancassidy1654 Před 7 lety

    Love watching these football clubs stories videos

  • @n0thing12
    @n0thing12 Před 7 lety +3

    These are the documentaries that I've missed from Copa.

  • @dusanrotar
    @dusanrotar Před 7 lety +22

    Respekt to Wimbledon and for the Fans Form a Chelsea fan

  • @kierontaylor4245
    @kierontaylor4245 Před 6 lety

    This and the orient video are class. Really makes you think and love football

  • @tomhammond3495
    @tomhammond3495 Před 7 lety +2

    Great video. Highlights the rise of both Wimbledon and AFC Wimbledon brilliantly. One small mistake is that MK Dons play in white not red and black which I assume is their away shirt.

  • @TheWonderzShow
    @TheWonderzShow Před 7 lety +32

    Do one about Coventry and their bad owners

  • @Alex-db6qu
    @Alex-db6qu Před 6 lety +6

    MK Dons possibly about to be a league below AFC Wimbledon now too

    • @MrRodzilla
      @MrRodzilla Před 5 lety

      don't worry, we will buy another premier league team soon and merge it, the MK HAM DONS

  • @Isleofskye
    @Isleofskye Před 7 lety

    Wgat a brilliant,insightful analysis. Every word resonated. Well Done !

  • @phemstros
    @phemstros Před 5 lety

    One of my favourite copa90 videos!

  • @Viator19
    @Viator19 Před 7 lety +31

    Im a Leyton Orient supporter and if our Italian owner obliterates us out of existence i'll make AFC Wimbledon my new team. Good on 'em

    • @AdrianCourage
      @AdrianCourage Před 7 lety +2

      MrLazyhead I hope it never happens, mate. Callum Kennedy, Dons legend.

    • @Daneclaw
      @Daneclaw Před 5 lety

      Congratulations on getting back into the Football League after ditching the Italian.

  • @Kmn2
    @Kmn2 Před 5 lety +5

    Massive respect for Wimbledon from a Pompey fan I heard about your story and what happened to your club it's amazing truly some Loyal fans whoever supports mk dons you're just a traitor tbh it's sick

    • @JBG-AjaxzeMedia
      @JBG-AjaxzeMedia Před 2 lety

      bruh idc for all this shit i support them because i'm from MK, i was born after all this shite happened, how can i be a traitor when i wasn't even involved in any of it, i was just born into it lol. Wimbledon fans imo are all just butthurt like get over it, we're all doing okay now aren't we? fuck sake its like children arguing over a toy get over it they are just football teams just shut up and enjoy the beautiful game

    • @tedpates4071
      @tedpates4071 Před 9 měsíci

      As a mk fan we all hate Pete winklemen and I think that it's all in the past now

  • @LukeReece13
    @LukeReece13 Před 7 lety

    great video! more like this please.

  • @Sgnabi171
    @Sgnabi171 Před 6 lety

    Great documentary!

  • @alexanderhamilton8971
    @alexanderhamilton8971 Před 7 lety +193

    Wycombe Wanderers are the 'Old Bucks Boys' existing for over 110 years before Wimbledon moved to Milton Keynes. The Buckinghamshire community all got together to support their small local club, but now MK Dons have ruined that vibe.
    Like if you hate MK Dons!

    • @BigChris1998
      @BigChris1998 Před 7 lety +8

      Aww shucks you are looking for likes - that's cute -x-

    • @alexanderhamilton8971
      @alexanderhamilton8971 Před 7 lety +2

      BigChris1998 Probably a franchise fan...

    • @BigChris1998
      @BigChris1998 Před 7 lety +2

      Customer

    • @havershamjoe6782
      @havershamjoe6782 Před 6 lety +1

      Alexander Hamilton He isn’t saying what really happened. Wimbledon were in huge trouble, they were bankrupt and were either going to dissolve and disappear or move. So instead of dying out and going completely, the owners (who by the way you should’ve supported or blamed this all on) decided to agree to move. And instead of supporting your club and being loyal, all of your fans made there own team which is why mk was made and they changed their name

    • @conanxsander9107
      @conanxsander9107 Před 5 lety

      Coventry City is more closer to Milton Keynes then Wycombe .

  • @ColinHuntersound
    @ColinHuntersound Před 7 lety +10

    Wimbledon didn't beat Liverpool on penalties!
    They won 1-0 (Laurie Sanchez goal), with Dave Beasant saving a John Aldridge penalty.

  • @topg9552
    @topg9552 Před 6 lety

    Thank you to copa, I love your vids

  • @milithant
    @milithant Před 7 lety +2

    when eli was back with copa90 stories! Amazing

  • @almestarsari3868
    @almestarsari3868 Před 7 lety +9

    wow so much respect
    lower divs in English fooybal is just like old people full of emotions and stories

    • @pphyjynx8217
      @pphyjynx8217 Před 7 lety +4

      pretty much every football league is like that

    • @godenzoon5955
      @godenzoon5955 Před 3 lety +2

      That is 'real' football, what football is all about. I hope to travel one day to the U.K. and visit a Lower League side.

  • @oscarm5860
    @oscarm5860 Před 7 lety +5

    I like this guy. Sounds like a nice guy.

    • @louist9479
      @louist9479 Před 3 lety

      Shame he lies through his arse

  • @bennyayala1538
    @bennyayala1538 Před 4 lety +1

    Good info ill.put it in.my football library in my mind...

  • @flaviofontana3317
    @flaviofontana3317 Před 7 lety +1

    Great video!!!

  • @fikelly111
    @fikelly111 Před 7 lety +5

    What a video

  • @brianwilliams8436
    @brianwilliams8436 Před 5 lety +7

    Nice piece but as a lifelong Womble, I must point out a couple of inaccuracies. Wimbledon beat liverpool 1-0 in 1988 NOT on penalties (I should know, I was there!). Also, AFC held trials on Clapham common, NOT Wimbledon common. Granted, these were probably slips of the tongue but, well, you know.. PS. Elizabeth Beresford wouldn't even let MK Don's use the term Wombles! Way to go Lizzie!!!

  • @toyosioyejobi309
    @toyosioyejobi309 Před 7 lety +2

    Im happy you could follow my advice by showing your face..good one

  • @ze5258
    @ze5258 Před 3 lety

    This gave me mad goosebumps

  • @danielstorey9443
    @danielstorey9443 Před 7 lety +10

    leeds fan here prefer afc Wimbledon than crap mk dons hats of to afc wiimbldon and its fans !

  • @TheT0ttenham
    @TheT0ttenham Před 7 lety +57

    It wasn't the first time in the history of English league football. Arsenal moved from woolwich (South London) to Highbury (North london)

    • @benoitassouekotto_7387
      @benoitassouekotto_7387 Před 7 lety +26

      TheT0ttenham same city tho

    • @benoitassouekotto_7387
      @benoitassouekotto_7387 Před 7 lety +5

      Skiddy Skiddz wtf has that got to do with Arsenal moving

    • @elimengem3891
      @elimengem3891 Před 7 lety +18

      Arsenal moved north in 1913 but weren't a football league side until 1919!

    • @benoitassouekotto_7387
      @benoitassouekotto_7387 Před 7 lety

      Skiddy Skiddz that's not what you said, you said Tottenham were shit and didn't mention Arsenal in your original comment

    • @tottenham123mh
      @tottenham123mh Před 7 lety +1

      Eli Mengem what about when they bought out spurs division one league place????

  • @filipegil5611
    @filipegil5611 Před 3 lety

    Great story guys!

  • @republicgalaxy4348
    @republicgalaxy4348 Před 5 lety +1

    wow i knew there was rivalry between the two teams, but never understood why, but now i know, thanks copa

  • @LMC-xz6qh
    @LMC-xz6qh Před 5 lety +4

    Respect to AFC Wimbledon. Screw MK Dons.

  • @darganx
    @darganx Před 4 lety +4

    4:22
    Correction: Woolwich Arsenal left South London for Highbury around 1919.

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi Před 3 lety

      A club making a united decision to move is very different from a team being bought and relocated against their will.

  • @JoaoSilva-ez6sd
    @JoaoSilva-ez6sd Před 7 lety

    amazing story lads!

  • @Nigel5uk
    @Nigel5uk Před 6 lety +1

    Sick channel, wish I'd found it sooner

  • @IIIErebusIII
    @IIIErebusIII Před 7 lety +65

    I was born in MK and there was no football team you could call your own Newport Pagnell isn't part of MK so there was none if you're really interested on why read about MK City (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Keynes_City_F.C..) on how they folded my granddad went to Mk City games and when they went bust no more could be done.
    I was 8 when i went to the first Wimbledon game at MK i didn't care about the move i was young at the time all i cared about was football at 10 year's old i got called scum inbred everything i din't know why i just wanted to watch football.

    • @IIIErebusIII
      @IIIErebusIII Před 7 lety

      ***** A lot of people don't because of the Wimbledon name and who they were at the time.

    • @HTCGaming1000
      @HTCGaming1000 Před 7 lety

      The LoudAssasin And do you still support MK now?

    • @IIIErebusIII
      @IIIErebusIII Před 7 lety +2

      notaprofessional Yep.

    • @tobyallen-smith922
      @tobyallen-smith922 Před 7 lety +1

      Thats the issue, you should know better to not support a club that should never had existed

    • @IIIErebusIII
      @IIIErebusIII Před 7 lety +5

      notaprofessional That was financial and nothing to do with the move they barley pushed the club in Milton Keynes no advert's in the paper's nothing the old lot saw it as a joke and for 8 year's were called Mercedes Benz Fc until 98 then folded in 03.
      What i'm talking about is the 70's and 80's Mk City learn to fucking read let me give you the text straight from the wiki.
      Ron Noades, then chairman of Wimbledon, claimed to have entered talks with the Milton Keynes Development Corporation, although this was denied by the Corporation, about the possibility of moving the south London club to Milton Keynes.[4] Noades purchased a controlling interest in Milton Keynes City and installed fellow Wimbledon directors including Sam Hammam, Bernie Coleman and Jimmy Rose as directors on top of their identical roles at Wimbledon, which at that time was still legal under the Football Association's rules. His intention was to merge the two clubs to produce a club based in Milton Keynes using Wimbledon's place in the Football League. This idea was never seriously developed and was abandoned when he sold his interest in Milton Keynes City the following year.
      Like i said if they didn't buy the right's Mk city would of still been around thank's to him we had no financial backing which we did at the time before him.
      Honestly you really are special keep sucking the "victim's" dick's more twat.

  • @RugbyLeagueHistory
    @RugbyLeagueHistory Před 6 lety +10

    Wimbledon got majorly fucked over and I have never agreed with the whole Milton Keynes Dons thing so that's why I have all the time in the world for AFC Wimbledon. I even played with them on FIFA once, took them all the way from league two to the premier league.

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi Před 4 lety

      czcams.com/play/PLlfLHAPCj1GKIejzSgKb0jNi06jVd3TKE.html

  • @kiepyon1
    @kiepyon1 Před 7 lety

    YAY U ARE BACK. YOU ARE MY FAVORITE

  • @fpsreactions8481
    @fpsreactions8481 Před 6 lety +1

    Wow... My PE teacher use to be Assistant coach of AK Dons. 2006-2011.

  • @Mike-jv9cl
    @Mike-jv9cl Před 6 lety +35

    AFC Wimbledon are staying in League 1, MK Donuts are sinking to League 2. Hope Wimbledon make the Premier League and Donuts keep sinking.

    • @louist9479
      @louist9479 Před 4 lety +5

      Mike1 This aged well 🤫

    • @harryfoley2294
      @harryfoley2294 Před 4 lety +6

      Louis T triggered MK dons fan 🤫

    • @ajf3202
      @ajf3202 Před 3 lety +2

      @@louist9479 fuck off inbred

    • @louist9479
      @louist9479 Před 3 lety +3

      @@ajf3202 imagine getting heated over a reply from over a year ago 😂 Go back to train watching

    • @ajf3202
      @ajf3202 Před 3 lety +3

      @@louist9479 imagine supporting MK Dons. Your club shouldn't even exist. Inbred.

  • @lennon4263
    @lennon4263 Před 7 lety +4

    Haha finished above you in 2017!!

  • @fartexpertable
    @fartexpertable Před 7 lety

    Struggle defines a football fan, you can pick whichever club you support but if you don't support them during their struggles then you were never a fan in the first place. Wimbledon fans are a fine example of that. "Risen from the ashes to defy all odds, in such a manner that will surprise all gods." May God always bless Wimbledon in all of its endeavors.
    *Pint raise from an Everton supporter*

  • @euanjackson5408
    @euanjackson5408 Před 7 lety +1

    great video guys didn't know that

  • @ellibod1
    @ellibod1 Před 5 lety +7

    I didn't know how MK Dons formed.. But now that I do, I do question my love for the club

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi Před 4 lety +11

      They've officially renounced any claim to the identity of the the Wimbledon FC club. The only thing left is to change the name.

  • @harryjones9482
    @harryjones9482 Před 7 lety +45

    I hope MK Dons get relegated to league 2

  • @jonnyscottblair
    @jonnyscottblair Před 4 lety +2

    Mostly correct but a few things:
    1. Wimbledon beat Liverpool 1-0 in the 1988 FA Cup Final. It was not on penalties.
    2. The 3,039 that turned up for the Everton game was in 1993 - long before Wimbledon FC ended so this low attendance was not a marker or sign of the times. A few years later, Wimbledon were FA Cup semi finalists again.

  • @matthewcoombs3282
    @matthewcoombs3282 Před 7 lety +1

    I remember going to Plough Lane with my dad in the late 1970s. I dont live in London anymore but I have visited AFC ground in Kingston. I really admire what the fans have done. Really hope to see them back soon in Plough Lane, a wrong will have finally been righted.

  • @aidenhuddleston8087
    @aidenhuddleston8087 Před 7 lety +3

    MK ARMY !!!

  • @anonymousanomie1
    @anonymousanomie1 Před 7 lety +5

    Why is everyone so mad about the move? It seems to me that there was no better option for Wimbledon. Their attendance was terrible, they were sharing with Crystal Palace, and they obviously didn't have the resources to make a new stadium.

    • @HelloHello-ek7gw
      @HelloHello-ek7gw Před 7 lety +3

      Of what I currently understand the attendance was terrible due mostly to protests against the move and it would be better for a club to die and then be resurrected by its fans without having another team calling themselves in the meantime after destroying the clubs identity

    • @callumbrodie8672
      @callumbrodie8672 Před 7 lety

      Should have let the club die instead of stealing the league place, Wimbledon clearly had the support as shown by AFC (most are former FC fans)

    • @HTCGaming1000
      @HTCGaming1000 Před 7 lety +1

      Sway Fuck off mate.

  • @ludlowstoker8806
    @ludlowstoker8806 Před 7 lety +1

    As a Wimbledon supporter of nearly 40 years who was there throughout I'd say that's a very neatly put together 8 minute summary. Nice job. one correction though: 1:38 "Beating one of the best Liverpool sides to win the FA Cup on penalties". Wimbledon beat Liverpool 1-0 in the 1988 cup final. The only penalty was during normal time.

  • @tanay3627
    @tanay3627 Před 2 lety +2

    Respect to AFC Wimbledon supporters👏

  • @BreakBeatStu
    @BreakBeatStu Před 6 lety +4

    You’ve done MK Dons and Wilkeman dirty to be honest. I have maximum respect for AFC Wimbledon fans and feel sorry for my old school mate who where avid Wimbledon fans but.... shit happens... Wimbledon could be totally gone if it wasn’t for the move to MK or somewhere else. The idea was for the club to move not split apart (although that was totally inevitable!). Dele Ali and the success MK have had are the proof in the pudding. A new team, a new fan base, and a new culture is rising.
    Liverpool was formed on the back of people leaving Everton, Arsenal moved from south to north of the river, Tottenham were talking about moving to Stratford, shit happens.... max respect to the real Dons but you’ve done MK dirty here.

    • @patrickrichmond6531
      @patrickrichmond6531 Před 5 lety

      fuck off Winkleman is a sleazy coke head

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi Před 4 lety +1

      No, he told it how it is. Winkleman did Wimbledon dirty, and MK like try to twist the facts.

    • @BreakBeatStu
      @BreakBeatStu Před 4 lety

      Jivan Scarano ... yeah the American youtuber who spent all of a day researching and filming this told us how it is 😒

  • @louistobin9020
    @louistobin9020 Před 7 lety +90

    What about Arsenal who permanently moved from Woolwich to North London

    • @benoitassouekotto_7387
      @benoitassouekotto_7387 Před 7 lety +48

      Louis Tobin still in the same city

    • @elimengem3891
      @elimengem3891 Před 7 lety +40

      Arsenal moved north in 1913 but weren't a football league side until 1919!

    • @jessembayi7689
      @jessembayi7689 Před 7 lety +25

      Louis Tobin Tottenham weren't a London club until the 1970's...they were a Middlesex club

    • @jake.simp11
      @jake.simp11 Před 7 lety +1

      Jesse Mbayi what are you talking about 😂

    • @jessembayi7689
      @jessembayi7689 Před 7 lety +5

      SorleyBoy98 Tottenham were located in Middlesex before

  • @olivercharnock5996
    @olivercharnock5996 Před 7 lety +1

    great video UTF

  • @jroff7475
    @jroff7475 Před 7 lety

    Very informative