GRIM REAPER MICRO HADES PRO SERIES 3 Blade BROADHEAD TEST
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- This is a test of the 100 gr, 3 blade Micro Hades Pro Series 1 1/16" Broadhead, by Grim Reaper.
Here is summary of my 2022 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/ the scores of the Micro Hades posted in parentheses as well.
Total Micro Hades 100gr Score: 82.08 = 8 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 16 pts)
This is not just a test of how heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how well it spins, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score of a Mech is 20 & the max score of a Fixed is 16. The Micro Hades got 16 pts (it also received 1 bonus pt for excellent flight).
2. Cut Size (20%, 12.15 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.6/2.5 X7 = 4.48 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.6/2.5 X7 = 4.48 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.0625/2 X6 = 3.19 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 17.35 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 200 grs=10/10=9 pts ) & Edge Retention (9%, +125 grs=7.5/10=6.75 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (8/10=1.6 pts)
4. Penetration (20%, 18.23 pts)
There are 3 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (8" = 8 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score (64 layers=8.23 pts)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (2/2pts)
5. Durability (20%, 17.35 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (4.75 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (2/10 = 0.6 pts)
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS: Heads will be rewarded bonus points for special, intangible features such as: rotation, no O rings/clips for mechs, extra thick, hole size, other unique designs, etc.
Micro Hades Bonus: +1 exceptional flight
Total Micro Hades Score: 82.08 = 8 Golden Arrows
Price of Micro Hades = $15/head
Grading Scale:
90-100 10 Golden Arrows
85-90 9
80-85 8
70-80 7
60-70 6
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You're the first person I watch before buying any new broadheads
Thank you! I hope they're helpful.
He is the reason i buy new heads 😂
Just Bought, a 3 Pack of these ALL Stainless Steel, 125 grain, Grim Reaper, Micro Hades, 3 Bladed to Test for, 40 to 60 yard, "Flight" and accuracy, in My Bow !
I have, NO Fear of them, NOT working, real "Well" on, Deer / Elk,. after seeing,.. THIS Test.
The Elk, in Idaho and Montana, have Quit wearing, the Cinder Block, "Saddles", over their Shoulder blades,.. a few, years, ago !
I’ve been waiting on this one 🏆 Ty
Nice
One of my favorite fixed blade heads of all time! Love Grim Reaper as a whole as they literally have a head for pretty much everyone! As always good test John!
Thank you!
YUP,. They "Look" real good and Tests PROVE that, they "Shoot",..Accurately !!
Awesome! Gotta love the precision! I just took my bull elk yesterday with this head! I felt it would do well on your updated tests, I know a lot of hunters who geek out on your content 🤙🏽
Thanks for the comment.
Just ordered, the ALL S/ Steel, 125 Grain GR's after seeing, a Couple of, Tests ( Their ACCURACY, is,.. Awesome ! ) The 100 gr Alum Model, isn't "Tough" enough, IMO
I have been waiting for this one for a long time
Good to hear
The GR, Micro Hades, 3 Blade, ALL S/Stl., 125's Look like, a Low poundage Bow shooters, "Dream" for, "Accuracy" and,.. Blood Letting, Killing power,..
Can't wait to, Try them, in my Lower Poundage ( 50 lb / 28" Draw) , Hunting Bow.
Cinder block test looked like a military rail gun impact.
Was excited when I got off a long day of construction work, to find that John Lusk was sending quality American made broad heads through the paces once again. Thanks!!!
Haha. Thank you
One of my #1 recommendations to people for a great head at a pretty decent price
Thanks Alan. Hard to beat Deepower for that, but these are definitely a good value.
Your test showed exactly what I've seen in hunting situations for the 4 blade version of this broadhead. It always has flown very well and is very sharp out of the box. Always had a pass through. The durability for what it hit after it exited the animal is mirrored in your test. In situations where it hit dirt or anything else not named rock after pass through, I just needed to touch up the blades. If it hit rock solidly, there would be enough damage to toss the broadhead.
Thanks for sharing that experience.
Killed my axis buck with this head this year. Very sharp and accurate broadhead
Good to hear.
Really like these heads almost purchased but went with Wasp Darts so far they're awesome grouping as tight as my field points. Blades are scary sharp first time I've needed a broadhead wrench since shooting Rocky's back in the day.
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Great video!
Thanks for the visit
I shot these on my mule deer hunt this year. Super impressed with them.
Good to hear.
Thank you
You're welcome
Nice. I've got the 4 blade 125. Haven't used it yet. Great test.
Thanks Aaron.
The 100 grain micro has an aluminum ferrule which is why it faired so poorly on the cinder block. The 125 micro has a steel ferrule. Great BH though and awesome tests that you put on. Always look forward to your tests!
Thank you for the comment.
Dropped from 200 to 325 after initial shots, that was alot ? Great hole in the steel, great penetration as well, so this head will perform great I feel. Concrete pretty much isn't anything we will encounter, but gives an indication of the overall toughness. I question the steel of the blades as to why such a drop so fast in sharpness.
Once again john, great test on what looks like a great head. You're doing a great job ! Thanks
Thanks brother. On a 10 point scale, with 10 being zero loss of sharpness, a 125 gram difference gets a score of 7.5 One point is deducted on a 10 point scale for every 50 grams lost. So this edge retention was basically a "C" on an A, B, C, D scale.
I’d love to see these heads tested against a QAD Exodus and a Muzzy Trocar to see how it is against those great heads.
Thank you. The good thing about my testing now is that all of the tests are the same, so you can compare the performance of any head to another, just by checking out the scores. And I am about to post my year end, 2023 summary video that will have the spread sheet of all the scores for 2022-2023.
I got a pack of Micro Hades 4 blades recently and they sure fly well! I hope to shoot a whitetail with one this fall.
Nice
Still one of the best affordable heads you have tested.
:)
Using the Hades PRO 3 blade 125gr for my elk hunt this year. Tested it against the Micro Hades Pro 3 blade 125gr -- flight seemed very similar (very good) and like the slightly larger cutting diameter of the Hades Pro. Subjective penetration in new target seemed very close or maybe even slightly better for the Hades vs Micro Hades. Also tested against QAD Exodus. Think the Grim Reaper had fair amount better flight at distances of 40-60 yards. Penetration seemed better too. All from my Bowtech SR6 at 60lb 27.25” arrows clocked at 271fps and shooting 440gr arrow with Nocturnal knock and GT hunter pro arrows.
Thanks for sharing that.
@ rrhunter,..
Sounds like, a GOOD Balanced & accurate, Arrow !
I too, Bought the Stain Steel, 125 grain, G R Micro Hades for, the accuracy at, the 40 to 60 yard, Ranges for, big Game.
Couldn't get, Repeatable group accuracy, out of, the Exodus,, B- Heads, either ( SADLY )
Not a fan of replaceable blades. If it was solid it most likely survived the concrete. Sad to see a good arrow lose another battle also. ☹️
If you want a suggestion for a video, A comparison of a well sharpened broadhead vs one out of the box. Many are over 200-300 on the Bess sharpness tester, new. This is too high for my liking.
I sharpen all mine regardless how sharp they seem to be out of the box.
Your pretty much the best.
Thank you. I do sometimes sharpen up a head a bit and test it. I saw a buddy sharpen a Sevr to only need 86 grams of pressure to cut the wire.
Heading to Idaho for elk Monday tipped with these in 150 grain.
Nice. Good luck brother!
Very interesting that the old 4 blade micro hades looked like new after the cinder block, but that one just exploded.
Right? That was strange...but those cinder blocks have pretty large "grains/particles". It could have been due to hitting directly on one or not. Just not sure.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I thought the same. Your old review of the 4 blade micro was bulletproof. This explosion on the concrete test with the 3 blade hades pro was surprising to me. I use the 4 blade hades pro 150gr and debated sending you a pack but I see you basically already tested them. I feel the 150gr would be a little tougher since the ferrule is 50% larger (150gr vs 100gr). All I know is I put the same 556gr shaft through 8 straight deer with that head and just use new blades or a brand new head each time. Its a legitimate meat missile.
I used those on a my elk hunt in Utah and it did amazing it bled the bull out fast and he only went 40 yards
Great to hear. Congrats!
I carry these and SEVR’s. Can’t go wrong either way
Nice.
Grim Reaper has a phenomenal Discount for Veterans and Active Duty Personnel. 20 or 25% off one of those. I forget off the top of my head. Contact them, verify and that's it. Best discount in the whole industry for Vets....
Oh that's great to hear. Thanks for sharing that.
I know it’s concrete but I’m still surprised it exploded like that, I’ll bet the 125 grain version would do better in the cinder block test.
The 125 4 blade version of this held up great, and the 125 3 blade looks like it has an even thicker ferule than the 4 blade.
Yeah. I was surprised too. But it may have hit a small rock in the concrete--sometimes that happens and causes an angled impact which is really tough on a broadhead.
This is my fixed blade of choice right now. I haven’t taken an animal with it yet.
Thanks for sharing that.
Blew thru an elk with one last year.
Good to hear.
I’m surprised at it’s durability on the cement block. If I remember correctly, the 4 blade micro survived.
I shoot the 150 grain model the ferrule is ridiculously thick
Yeah I wonder if the 125 grain Micro Hades 3 blade would have done better.
The 125 4 blade did better in the cinder block test.
@@kmhendrickson one thing I like about reaper is the extra weight goes into the broadhead unlike several others who not add a weight collar
Yep...that's correct. I was surprised. Could have been the 125 gr vs the 100 or the precise spot it hit the concrete.
This would be a good head to compare to the slick trick standard
Yeah, especially the 4 blade version. I try to only do head to head vid battles if the dimensions are exactly the same. However, my tests are the same, so you can compare scores of any head against any other. I'm testing the Slick Trick Magnum in the near future...but I have other vids all done & scheduled to post thru October now.
Hey John I really would like you to go try out an onideda Phenix bow somewhere and see your impressions. It's my favorite bow it's so smooth and accurate.
Good to hear. No shop near me sells them...otherwise I would be glad to.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures that's unfortunate. If you want to go crazy on stats you should list fpe or kinetic energy. That is a more accurate number than fps for killing game. That is one area lever bows are better than compounds at. I live in northern Missouri if you want to check out one we could meet up!
I know not to hunt any charging cinder blocks with this!
That's the lesson I was hoping to drive home deeply :) Honestly, I've had broadheads take MUCH more damage on animals than on a cinder block, at times. Hard impact on bones at angles can really test the structural integrity and durability.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Thank you for all of your hard work and dedication.
Awesome video! Curious if you had to pick between the 3 blade and 4, what one would you choose?
Also appreciated your video on rage Trypan. I’v shot them since they came out and all my harvest are with them. I totally agree that they are a one and done head unfortunately. I keep using them because of the confidence I have in their flight.
I’m very on the fence about switching next year to the micro hades head!
Thanks Tanner. It depends on what I were hunting. But all things equal, with this head, I'd prefer the 4 blade.
If my draw length is 30” and weight is 62# what would be a better fit? (Or what you recommend) for whitetail? The 4 blade micro hades or the 2” Sevr?
As stated above I am used to rage and feel the Sevr would fly similar with better results.
Thank you so much for all your advice!
If my draw length is 30” and weight is 62# what would be a better fit? (Or what you recommend) for whitetail? The 4 blade micro hades or the 2” Sevr?
As stated above I am used to rage and feel the Sevr would fly similar with better results.
Thank you so much for all your advice!
If my draw length is 30” and weight is 62# what would be a better fit? (Or what you recommend) for whitetail? The 4 blade micro hades or the 2” Sevr?
As stated above I am used to rage and feel the Sevr would fly similar with better results.
Thank you so much for all your advice!
If my draw length is 30” and weight is 62# what would be a better fit? (Or what you recommend) for whitetail? The 4 blade micro hades or the 2” Sevr?
As stated above I am used to rage and feel the Sevr would fly similar with better results.
Thank you so much for all your advice!
I bought 3 of these, but lost a blade in my Rhinehart block target when practicing with them. Wasn't really happy about that...
Yeah...that can happen. I try to really make sure they are screwed on tight...but they could use a better retention system.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Yeah, it was tight. That was the first thing I checked. I think you hit the nail on the head with the blade retention system needing some work. Take care.
Mr. Lusk. What is your favorite 150gr single bevel broadhead. Preferably something under $100 lol. I know you like the Bishop stuff.
Anyhow, I ask because I finally decided to do a better FOC arrow build. And I’m getting on the single bevel bandwagon. I’m shooting a 10.0GPI arrow. With a 100gr outsert and a 150gr broadhead it puts me at 603 grains total arrow weight. I’m personally leaning towards the 150gr VPA single bevel. Would you have any other 150gr suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Craig
What arrow spine and lbs are you shooting that setup with?
@@_DeFiNiTeLy_Not_BrAd_ I’m shooting the CarbonExpress Mutiny with the 350 spine. 65lb draw weight. I paper tuned and nock tuned and have great arrow flight.
@@_DeFiNiTeLy_Not_BrAd_ I may end up shooting a 125gr broadhead.
For the price, I'd say the new Crimson Talon Cleaver is the best. Check out my test of those--really amazing for the price. And with my discount code, it's even better :) LUSK15 saves an additional 15%. I also used them on a hog hunt in June and posted that video.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures how do you feel about the A2 from Sawtooth? I really liked the way it performed in your tests and the price point is there as well. Maybe not as cheap as the Cleaver but close.
Maybe you’ve talked about it and I missed it, but what broadheads do you shoot?
Thanks Kyle. I shoot as many as I can. If you check out my bowhunting playlist here on my channel, I always comment on which heads I've used. I often put it in the title of the vid.
Hey man how you like the cp28 now that you have shot it a bit?
LOVING it! Gave it a good test on my Moose hunt last week...and it passed with flying colors.
Big pass from me I’ll stick with the tota OG heads
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Tip looks like copied the old ramcat tips.
Lots of heads are using that scoop design nowadays.
-Junk...SevR beats it every day
Lol are you comparing a mechanical to fixed?
If so sevr is junk my .338 beats it every day
Well, they are quite different.