Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 1 & 2 Retrospective
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0:00 Intro & Series Overview
02:54 Xbox 360 Version
11:02 PC Version
18:21 PS2 Version
23:47 GRAW 2 - Xbox 360
25:57 GRAW 2 - PC
28:53 Outro & Amazingly Awesome Patrons - Hry
Back when this came out I was a bouncer at a nightclub. Our sound tech brought his 360, hooked this up to the sound system, and projector. We sat on the stage and played. Good times.
Maybe someone u bounce just wanna come in and play with you
so I assume ure in your late 30s or early 40s
Ooo.
Remind my freshmen years of community college when class was cancelled someone brought a special edition Xbox 360 and we played the hell out of that.
Fitting upvote number. Cant mess with that. Good times indeed.
“The game just doesn’t like you…but don’t worry I do.”
You’re just trying to get closer to me to get to my mom again. Not gettin SCHWACKED this time Ozzy boy.
LOOOOOOOOOOL
Wtf is a mom ???? He’s after that sweet mum heat
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He'll treat her right, what are you afraid of
Shout outs to GRAW2 for having that achievement that required you to be #1 on the global leaderboard. That's a true achievement if I even saw one.
too bad it's simply about grind, would be much fun if you needed to be in top of trueskill rating or something.
The X360 versions of GRAW and GRAW2 were among my favourite games from that generation. They were so good!
Agreed. The best entries in the entire franchise
i have fond memories of graw 2. too bad the co op was completely dfferent from the main game (made by different people too?)
Of All Time for me best Console generation next to Series X gen
They really were. It was also the only video game my dad would play. I was really sad when he asked me if people were still playing it last year because he wanted to play it online. I had to tell him its been over a decade and the playerbase are either too small or moved on.
Those game knew how to do DLC. Some of those CO-OP missions were amazing
I'm from Mexico, Mexico City that is, and it was pretty funny watching the news when the governor or mayor -can't remember exactly- of Ciudad Juarez banned the game (I think the second installment -writing this before even watching the video as I am "on the clock"- as it "portrayed them" in a bad light, when in fact, the setting was probably the most authentic thing of the whole story XD
hahaha this boy Reyes Ferris was Juarez Mayor and hi say that... saddly GRAW its not than violent compare it with real Mexico, specially zones as Michoacan, State of Mexico, Sinaloa, Juarez on that time or Tamaulipas (i saddly remember all the corpses hanged on bridges since Calderon Goverment or the warzone its now Michoacan)
Is it the cartels and collusion with the government? I hear Mexico will be hard won when the citizenry rises up to take their cities back.
... Y'all should've never handed in your guns!
@@12ealDealOfficial Oh please, don't say that fucking argument that assholes pro second enmendment says, when literally fucking gunshows arm Narcos, even if weapons were completely Legal here, many mexicans doesnt earned enough money to buy an AK or a Barret .50 cal, literally minimum wage it's 10 USD per day
@@12ealDealOfficial preaching to the choir here. I am right winger and most left wingers I know all acknowledge and endorse the use of guns.
Actually, I cannot remember anyone who wouldn't be happy to able to get rid of the everyday vermin that terrorises our cities on a daily basis; the only ones who are against it, are the elites. Mainly the government, the media, and entertainment industry. All those who have security details fully-loaded, unsurprisingly.
Edit: my comment was all over the place and there was a mistake that might've misconstrued its intention.
@@davuvnik Please keep defending Narcos can get Assault Rifles and Military Grade Equipment from Loopholes on USA or even receive it as GIFTS from ATF by gunwalking.
This franchise didn't need to go open world. It was fine the way it was.
definitely.
Ubi uses big open worlds filled with fetch quets to stretch the game time.
I liked wildlands but I'd rather have had it as a new franchise while we got another game while PC graw.
@UCmwvxxAu_hhOTDDNaNvjXJg ok and who are you? A nobody in a youtube comment section talking trash about a video he clicked like a prepubescent child
Just fuck off to obscurity you loser
@@sholva6809 Wildlands is decent. But if you think the older titles are trash then you greatly misunderstand the franchise.
"I have no name... I'm a Ghost... I was never here..."
I shed many tears for such incredible writing, truly the old GR games were the peak of tactical and realistic shooting games.
@@Largentina. Speeling isn't important. We bascally know what peeple mean with their coments.
@@ShadeDraws yes, al is imprtarnt id tu get te messg acros /s
@@ShadeDraws it show respect for other people when me type well. me not like read caveman scribbles
This and the Socom series
@@MrHostile12 I wasn't aware such petty people needed respect so badly.
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The enemies in these games are among the most lethal in video games. It really keeps you on your toes.
Especially on elevated difficulty the bullet sound effects were too realistic
I was literally scouring the umbral plains of CZcams fruitlessly for any semblance of a proper "review" for these two games (PC versions)... and here you grace me with your eternal presence, only a week later. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
Woah, same here too bhai
Yeah same, for some reason this game came from my darkest parts of my brain recently and I went to look for some reviews of this game too, but could find something good
I doubt anyone still plays it but I grew up on GRAW 2 multiplayer (on pc) and it was awesome. Never even touched the campaign
Cool long words, bro 👍
@@KillaGandhi You failed at least 2 grades in elementary school, Guaranteed.
I miss Raul Julia. His M Bison was so good because he wanted to give his kids a movie they could love because they loved streetfighter, all while dying of stomach cancer.
RIP Raul, I hope you are living it up in the next one
@@OCTO358
Ill admit i had the hots for Kylie Minogues Cammy
graw on pc was brutal, literally you have to actually calculate things in a matter of seconds. You dont get to see enemies very clearly as they blend to the environment, they also have hit scan accuracy as well....
But honestly, GRAW 1 and 2 on PC were the last true tactical shooters with single player content. We haven't had one since then. I'm sure there would be a market for those - just make the AI a bit less bullshit on lower difficulties and have good squadmate pathfinding, how hard can it be?
The original ghost recon was probably harder.
@@cherminatorDR especially with today's tech, hell even some bots in games like Insurgency: Sandstorm can be seriously smart in a urban combat environment. Truth is AI pathing and logic is harder than producing a F2P, weirdly balanced online-only "tactical shooter" which rewards you with skins, lootboxes and constantly begs you to buy season passes...
@@cherminatorDR Did you forget ARMA 3 has single player content? It actually even has several single player campaigns.
@@DigitalFulcrum Well, ArmA is in a completely different category for me, the scale is larger, and the control of the AI is less precise. In Co-Op it does become a true tactical shooter. But yeah, the campaign is pretty awesome, I don't know why some people complain about it.
You can access different fire modes (and the SCAR's grenade launcher) on 360 by holding A to bring up a submenu. This is mostly useful with scoped weapons because of the odd way the game handles accuracy when aiming over the shoulder. You can access one arbitrarily chosen soldier's helmet cam by holding right bumper to help give orders in places you don't have line of sight to without pulling up the map
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It's the little additions like those that when learned makes the game smoother and way more enjoyable.
Part 2 launcher was a ripper would shoot it in to the background see it hit beautiful
I actually still enjoyed playing the old 360 games. Especially playing them now through backwards compatibility and the frame rates being bumped up to 60 really makes the game feel much more fluid. They're a product of their time. I found them highly enjoyable and I still do, especially now that I can play with my boys.
You and me both. Recently I tried to play my 360 W40k:Space Marine copy, but it's UNFORGIVABLY unsupported. If a sequel ever gets made I'll forgive and still not forgive.
GRAW1 was very interesting on 360, look forward to trying 2. I got both on sale recently for $4 ea.
They play great on Xbox One. Glad I picked up both of them as well as Future Soldier for next to nothing awhile back.
Rainbow 6 vegas is one of my all time favourite shooters. Especially as a two player on the death house map.
Aside from the desaturated visuals in a lot of that generation's games, I still generally find them more inspired compared to the current and previous gen's titles. I think the height of gaming was PS1/PS2 and Xbox, but we were still at the top of the slope for 360 and PS3.
It's sad we will never get these kind of games.
The maps were huge.
Ubi is too busy slapping Clancy's name on absolute horseshit these days unfortunately. Then again, Clancy himself didn't really give two shits about these games while he was still around so all these people talking about how he'd be spinning in his grave at seeing what his name has been attached to since he died is downright hilarious.
@@alucard624 I just got onto Rainbow Six Siege 3 weeks ago and I enjoy it, despite the recent things they did like taking away dead bodies and my brother and his friends have been playing it off and on since release. I noticed there was a new Rainbow Six coming that's some type of alien-zombie game which completely destroys the whole Rainbow Six style for the series
To be fair the PC market is full with tactical military shooters with ARMA probably beeing one of the best out there
@@finkamain1621 Yeah that new R6 game looks like absolute garbage meant to cater to the Fortnite crowd like that new Clancy game Ubi is putting out that's got all the characters from various past Clancy games in it that's gonna be a Fortnite clone too apparently. Seriously, fuck Ubisoft.
@@phil_5430 I like ARMA 2 quite a bit and thankfully none of the COD jagoffs go near it so that's good.
Despite a lot of flaws, I really like GRAW 2 on PC, and the detailed reload animations still amazes me, you have the common empty gun, not empty gun and a third one when you fire the bullet in the chamber during a reload, wich changes all the animation.
Also, belt feed guns has some minor details depending of the amount of rounds left in the belt.
The MG one with the partial belt hanging from the feed tray... it gets thrown off when reloading. Haven't seen that in any other game
@@Tom-zc9gs I made a video some time ago showing all the animations, it changes even when you only have one bullet on the MG, where the guy picks it and throws away.
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Yeah, I remember this was big deal when GRIN-SE did that because literally no other shooters bothered with that.
Do you know if there's anyway to buy it on PC now because I can't find it anywhere.
@@swiss8988 Unfortunately only through piracy.
I remember playing the demo for GRAW on the 360 at Target (lol remember when stores used to do this?) and being blown away by the graphics and immersion. Still pretty impressive to this day, all things considered
I forgot about the stores letting u play demos back in the day.gamestop still does it sometimes
The target where i live still lets you play demos, have good memories of going there when my mom had errands and just sitting in the game aisle with employees giving me weird looks
To this day i don't think i've played a game with better sounding explosions than graw2
GRAW2 on the PC has issues. That said, playing CO-OP on a LAN with friends is the way to play this. It is so much better when your squad is real people. There are really excellent modded maps out there, which support massive CO-OP play, and are just fantastic to play. Yeah, you get beat down, and you want to make sure you have respawn enabled, but beating one is awesome.
Played a lot with my friends via lan and loved it, but that stupid memory leak problem was so fucking annoying
Shit, I didn't even think about that as an option... back then coop was like a npc hunt with friends, never got like full mission setups.... that woulda been perfect... i mean the freindly AI was the whole primary, secondary, and tertiary issues with what was otherwise a brilliant and despite some deviations... what I wouls call the last ACtual Tom Clancy Tactical shooter...
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Yeup.. the ai was better back on contemporary PCs.
How do you even get it on pc bro? I can't even buy it anywhere because its only on XBOX 360. Torrent?
I remember using this really OP sniper on the 360 version to blow up tanks and APCs with approximately 3 shots. My brother and I used to play hours of the game mode where you defend a location from endless waves of canon fodder.
bullshit. What was the sniper called?
@@jacobrobinson787 I think it could've been the M107. but this was years ago
I remember finding that sniper rifle by accident in the multiplayer I think.
The early days/years of the 360 were magical and hold a special in my heart for me and I still find myself playing plenty of games from that time on my series x
Oblivion and Need for Speed Most Wanted are still special to me.
GRAW series, Vegas series, Gears of War, L4d series, and xbox live was in it's prime. Favorite generation in my 30 years of gaming.
God do I love the coop in GRAW 2. Remember getting it back in 07 and spent a lot of time playing coop with random players. The DLCs add fun throwback missions from the older Ghost Recon games which are also pretty fun to play as well.
I would highly recommend getting a group of friends or at least randos with mics and try getting the coop achievements. Trying to get through the missions with one life can be fun and intense.
It was amazing
Co-op gave so much longevity to the game after the campaign. I fondly remember those missions with randos.... which were often failures.
I wish Ubisoft would take their current (trash) formula with Breakpoint and give it a healthy hit of the tactical realism that GRAW/2 brought. Those were essentially the last of the MILSIM Lite titles that Ubisoft put out before, well, the crap we're dealing with now.
I would go one further. I would say bring it back to og Rainbow 6 tactical. But, I would settle for this.
Becuase nothing says realism like getting hit in the shoulder by a guy then limping then no scoping that enemy in the side of his pelvis then said enemy runs like a 8 year old on 3 cans of monster energy easily
Turn that off
I stopped being a Ghost Recon fan after the original and it's expansions. I'd much rather just have the story as a background and have the sandbox maps again where you can do any objective in order and do the bonus objectives to unlock the specialists. The fact that you could send half of your squad to go complete objectives while you do the others was amazing. I have yet to play another game that has Ghost Recon's style of levels and objective
Advanced Warfighter 2 on PC was criminally underrated. The campaign in it was amazing in coop. Even SP was awesome where you could switch between RTS style and on ground gameplay.
Yeah i cant belive he is defending the Console Versions here.
quake 3 on the playstation 2
probably because you can't buy it
was it underrated or underplayed? or not recognized enough? because the ratings weren't bad
@@maegnificant Yeah lol games just get old and people just stop talking about them unless they where a masterpiece. It was not underrated at all, back in the day it was quite popular.
GRAW 2 on PC was amazing - Honestly my first foray into tactical shooters, and I actually kinda like the insanely hard difficulty with aimbot AI - Fast forward to years spent playing ARMAIII, Squad, and Escape from Tarkov, and I can honestly thank GRAW 2 for setting me on this journey.
This is a blast from the past. The GRAW series were some of the very first games I played on 360 when it was still relatively new
I remember my dad used to play the multiplayer for this game all the time back on the 360 when it came out. This game has been in the back of my head for years, so it's cool to hear that it's still good all this time later
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What orders!? In modern GR games all you can do is tell them to follow you, move in a general area, hold fire or assault... and that's always issued to all of them which severely reduces your tactical options even more. You can't order one person to cover an area or anything of the sort. They're dumb (and so are the enemies) but since you can never give them more elaborate orders and the game cheats by making them able to withstand a lot of damage they look more competent that they really are.
By modern I assume that you're talking about ghost recon breakpoint? I agree, I'd like to see a better command and tacitical orders system return in the next ghost recon, I also want a linear mission structure again and ubisoft should make advanced warfighter 3 or future soldier 2. Also like so many fans have requested, i'd like a new splinter cell as well as a return to the old school ac games. Sadly, with how ubisoft is now, they do not fucking listen to our requests and wants do they?
@@danielmoung9098 Yup.
And trust me... you don't want a new SC game. Not one made by modern day Ubisoft.
@@HellKnightX88 agreed, mate, agreed.
Not to mention being able to synch shot enemies in vehicles and on the other side of a base
@@danielmoung9098 sorry bro, lokks like they are maiing a battle royale. There is always next time
This game was my introduction into online multiplayer!
Was one of my first 360 games when I got one way back in the day.
Played great and had a good time. And still have good memories and nostalgia for it
Same for me first online game I was 13 years old it felt amazing
Jesus, 25:14 THIS mission, solidified my love for GRAW 2. This was hands down one of those missions (That have become quite frequent on the COD Modern Warfare series), but this being the first tense, isolated and overall just mad adrenaline rush of a mission was so great. From the ambush, to seeing all your squadmates incapacitated and you realizing you're on your own, to fighting for your life. It was honestly such a great experience.
For me it was the last stand at the city square where tanks, APCs, and so many enemies
As a Mexican who has lived all his life in Mexico City, I both enjoyed this game and made me cringe so hard at the same time. The depiction of Mexico City is as if it was a border-town no man's land with a couple Cuban cars, and the 5th most populated city in the world is now a complete sepia-colored ghost town for murrika to save the day. The AI was infuriating but the co-op has a huge spot in my hearth.
I undertand what you feel about the game paisano xD!
Basically that's how the first world see us, still remember Valparaiso from BFBC2 or Venezuela from Mercenaries 2
Mexico is sepia toned, you just don't see it because you're Mexican.
I hope you maybe enjoyed the new modern warefare. It made me really happy to see USA and Mexico working together, we're all Americans 🤘🤘
I still hold that Ghost Recon 2 has some of the best explosion sound effects known to gaming.
Oh without a doubt, and the best effects too.
I remember having so much fun playing this game as a kid when I had a 360. In fact, I enjoy it so much I would keep replaying the story because just the way the combat and everything was set up I enjoyed it everytime. Im thinking about getting another 360. There was a lot of games that I enjoyed playing when I was younger.
Actually on the xbox/ps2 version they give u the option to go after carlos and even save bravo team you can do both, one or the other, or neither. Dialogue changes depending on your decisions which i really like
I love GRAW 1 & 2 and future soldier was great they still hold up to this day, and they are way better than Wildlands and Breakpoint
Future soldier was sooooooooooo good
@@alexbasedfam4998 Ghost recon phantoms + online was good too
Future Soldier had amazing pvp multiplayer
Future Soldier was not great
I remember playing both GRAW 1&2 and remember them being so fun for it’s time. Future Soldier was probably my favourite Ghost Recon and personally upset with the route they have taken with the more recent games.
Great vid man, that was awesome, and a nice throwback. Didn’t know the PC, and PS2 versions were different ports. Great analysis of them!
They say OG xbox version was way different from PS2 version but i love the PC version the most, it was a tactical game to a point not a run and gun shooter
It also helps that Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter has a pretty awesome acronym.
GRAW!
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🐍 no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
Why the Gadsden flag ?
@@pieterandjuanchronicles9849
Why not?
i swear to god you're everywhere
@@wadelockard5592 who ?
@@pieterandjuanchronicles9849 snakedude. it didnt @ them tho lol
When the old games are more fun than the modern games, you know something is wrong 😂
That's literally most games now days my friend.
Unfortunately its true
レイライト is a weeb
wait you are already a weeb, fuck...
Bro I've been playing old games all summer. I thought the future would be different😕
Live service experience 🤮
Your videos are so well thought through and detailed; I really enjoy your analysis!
Ramirez is actually a rly underrated character in GR lore. On 360/PC he’s the only guy badass enough to do his own lone wolf missions (meeting him in the train yard first mission) or on PS2/Xbox he’s the only guy badass enough to be alongside michell
Then in future soldier he’s the guy who finds the bomb in the opening mission. He gets blown up and hangs onto a cliff w what’s likely broken ribs and arms as phosphorous melts his body and he still hangs in there for like 5-10 seconds.
RIP Ramirez 🫡
I remember having a strategy guide (when those existed) for the PS2 version and the strategy guide had screenshots of the 360 version. I remember thinking even then “damn, I got cheated.”
The Future Soldier installment in this franchise was such a fantastic game
It wasn’t. It sucked
@@DeltaAssaultGamingdoes it, I’ve been playing it for the first time and it’s really good, but I think my opinion is swade because I’ve only played wildlands and breakpoint
Thank you for the trip down memory lane! I loved GRAW 2, and played it on PC. I remember there was a mods workshop of sorts where you could download and play player created scenarios. It was awesome!
This was one of the first shooter games I ever played. Thanks for the good memories.
The co-op on 360 MP was brilliant. I spent so much time with forum buddies playing this.
When there was just a few players left clutching the mission while everyone watches, so much fun, only ARMA comes close and that takes 1000 mods
This, Summit Strike and Future Soldiers were among my favorite classic Clancy titles alongside vegas 1 and 2, Splinter Cell saga and even HAWX. Dont get me wrong, Div 1 and Wildlands were cool and fun. But Siege, Div 2 and Breakpoint were massive dissapointments.
Division 1 is frustrating to play alone, but i give it credits for the atmosphere
@@Pixelblut I would've agreed with you... But 3 years ago Ubisoft lost their minds and the RNG was straight up dropping all legendary and classified gear and me and bois farm it till we got it all, our builds staright up MELT the enemies 🤣🤣🤣
Do you remember the one where you get the xm 25 air burst grenade launcher? It mentioned stealth technology in the bonus features that there is almost no info on the current internet. I think it was the future warrior force program they mentioned.
Oof, you must be young, bud. To me, "classic clancy" is the original Ghost Recon, R6 Raven Shield, and yeah, the original Splinter Cell trilogy.
@@cherminatorDR Oh I played those, but I prefer the controls of the ones I mentioned. Like did I loved playing the og Tenchu Games? Hell yeah but fuck those controls.
This was in my mind for like a year thank you for covering it
Like always, a masterpiece of a video; amazing job! Keep up the nice work.
I'd like to see a video for the other Ghost Recon games, especially GR 2: Summit Strike. I have literally never gotten past the first level in all my years of trying.
He will if this video gets decent views, Summit Strike is pog
Wildlands deserves a Gman review too
@@whoelsebutmeofcoursei there is one already, my guy
Summit Strike is my favorite of all the GR games
Speaking of blasts from the past from fps genre: in recent gog fps sale MoH AA War Chest caught my attention. I completed the original a few times, but never played the expansions, so I bought it and played all 3 parts.
It still holds up as a really fun shooter, tho I had to wrestle it to make it run fullscreen on my double-monitor setup, because in windowed mode the cursor wanders off and blocks you from shooting and aiming all the time.
And it seems to be the only old-school MoH Gman hasn't made a vid about. Add that to the mile-long list of games people asked him to play?
Also, Spearhead >> Breakthrough.
I will never pass up an opportunity to agree that Medal of Honor Allied Assault is a great game that has aged like fine wine. However I really enjoyed Breakthrough for its locations and weapons even if it was a slightly buggy mess. Spearhead had a few janky moments like the halftrack village ambush but is generally much more stable gameplay wise
@@BigboiiTone I hated how you couldn't pick up ammo or weapons from enemies in Breakthrough. IMO it was the worst change made to the game.
Tx for this upload, I have a lot of fond memories of this game -- especially the door gunner parts. Felt like you were dropped into an action movie.
Think I'll revisit this bad boy again.
Never got the Master of Ceremonies achievement (for hosting 1000 matches) or Team Champion/Solo Champion (getting to the top of the leaderboard) but graw 1 and graw 2 were an incredible time period to play video games. Rainbow Six, Gears, Halo 2 (and 3 later). Just a great selection of games.
AW2 still has pretty impressive visuals, especially when you think about what games looked like in 2007. Fallout 3 was released a year after this
The AI was bad on PC, no doubt. And now that someone mentions it the enemy attack chopper was quite unrealistic. But since I come from the original Ghost Recon games I still prefer the PC versions and am sad that they didn't pursue the hardcore shooter part more.
Kinda feels like GRAW/GRAW2 different games on different consoles were experiments to see where the money is and then Future Soldier took that route with other ways forgotten.
I am subjectively repelled by the 360 versions with their third person shooters. They feel too arcadey for a hardcore shooter fan like me who came from the realistic originals. The minigun railshooting parts on the 360 versions, I admit, are fun as hell, but when someone like me looks at them for too long I get repelled by the unreal part of it as soon as the fun level drops even a fraction. And a fraction for me is anything that takes too long or any second playthrough.
Also I find the PC gun sounds quite good. Especially the sound and rate of fire of the .50 cal, very rarely do games get that right, now if it only had some more destruction like that one scene from the Rambo movie.
I also come from the original Ghost Recon game.
The 360 version of GRAW is far superior
@@DeltaAssaultGaming I subjectively disagree and there is nothing you can do about it :D
I forgot how Graw was so divisive back then in the gr community, I still play heroes unleashed sometimes but the graw games were great games too. Shame because we don't get anything like either of these games anymore
Also the MP was alot more realistic, you probably would like the co op
@@Contentrist You can subjectively disagree all you want, it just makes you objectively wrong.
The 360 games nailed the core aspects of a GR game without getting bogged down by crap the PC versions did.
@@Eye_Of_Odin978 There is nothing objective about art like video games. Sure the 360 version of GRAW turned you on more with its better pacing and overall casual enjoyability. However the PC version of GRAW turned me on with its hardcore tactical shooter elements. And the stuff that bogged you down immersed me into the game. For me the core aspects of the game were the "crap" PC versions did. While being one-shotted from an unknown location, which it takes the player maybe 3 deaths to figure out where, is not fun for the majority, for me it's a feature that immerses me into the simulated reality of the game.
I love you, you review all the kinda old or niche games I've always been curious about
man seeing the gameplay of this brings me back to being a kid. Nostalgia trip Forsure
This is why I enjoyed NFS 3 on Xbox. It had that nice mix between feeling real, but also knowing where to be arcadey and fun.
Finally someone speaks out about the greatest gaming duology of all time. Iconic games that will never be equalled, and beloved by those who played them with true loyalty
Games slandered by haters 😤😤😤 but *true* fans remember and could never forget. My favourite games ever.
My favorite shooters ever made! Thanks for the review!
OMG this takes me back. I loved these games.
Now I have to wonder, did you make videos about the original old ass Ghost Recon game and expansions? They do feel outdated by today's standards and might haven't aged too well graphically at all, but it's still an amazingly fun game that rewards patience and using your brain.
I still have fun with the og Ghost Recon/expansions. Save scrubbing is a must since AI companions are dumber than bricks and an enemy can shoot you with a pistol through a mile of fog the moment he spots you. But I miss its right blend of realism and video game action. And the fact that you can handle the scenarios however you wanted without it having any scripted/story sequences.
Plenty of great mods as well to play in the original ghost recon and was same great recycling of the original levels too. Always dreamed of Ghost Recon being made today with the original focus on tactics
I haven’t done the OG game yet.
@@Gggmanlives Then you know what to do, lad! Give it a try when you've got nothing better to do, I'm sure you'll find something interesting in there - if a bit challenging on a first run. Fucking game can be relentless at times with the amount of enemies that could see you before you could see them.
I always used the map in GRAW on PC to give my team commands. The AI follows those commands more precisley than with the HUD command menu. IMO they should have let you switch character like in the original Ghost Recon.
I thought the command map was the most interesting and unique part of these games. You can almost play them as an RTS game. Slightly wonky pathfinding, but if you're liberal with your waypoints it goes really smoothly. Super satisfying to setup an ambush, then either watch it play out overhead or snap back to the fps view to give the command and join the fight on cue.
@@kg_canuck : Kind of like Door Kickers top down approach.
Man, those were the last tactical shooters with single player we ever got! It's been 15 fucking years!
@@brodriguez11000 Or the original rainbow six.
@@kg_canuck p¹a
I remember playing the multiplayer demos of both of these games on my 360 back in the day and having so much fun, truly amazing games
Advance Warfighter 2 was one of the first games my family got for our PS3 back in 2008 when they got the console for Christmas alongside Mirror's Edge so it's a cool nostalgia trip to see you talking about it
I absolutely love the PC versions, maybe because I'm a masochistic tactical shooter junkie who hasn't had his fix since fucking 2010, but I tend to micromanage the friendlies through the tactical map, which resolves... most... of their problems. And if I imagine the friendlies are privates from my old unit, then their stupidity fits right in!
I just bought these to play for the first time, I remembered my friends having it when I was younger on 360, I figured the PC version would be the best version... It isn't lol. It really is a tediously brutal game. Thanks Gman for doing a review of these games in their different versions now we know.
Love how certain key phrases can be found floating around other channels such as yours, Critical Drinker and PJW.
I thought about writing a review for graw2 a few months ago. Kinda glad you made this so I don't have to think about it anymore
Wanted was a pretty decently fun game actually and Terminator Salvation has gotten favorable reviews. Think you were a little hard on Grin bro. Also I remember them as the developers of Bandits: Phoenix Rising, which I HIGHLY enjoyed as a kid.
I used to love LOVE this series of games... a more realistic style of shooters but... then the new ones came out and it went down the drain 😐
Amen
It's still realistic but the new games are just terrible and not fun at all
Wildlands was pretty decent to be honest, but Breakpoint? No, just no.
Wildlands its still fun on coop, never played breakpoint.
@@trobriandstorm Yeah, if I were you don't bother, since its still full of bugs and Jon Bernthal's character was done dirty, he was supposed to be a great villain but fell flat due to Ubisoft's shitty writing.
Loved this game, haven’t seen anything like it. This and brothers in arms definitely made me the gamer I am. You’re right about this game influencing CoD
What a good review. Excellent!
Back in the day when games on different platforms were developed separately, all the mechanics were designed for that platform.
Nah not really and in this case the PC version really suffered.
Ubisoft were really the only ones who consistently did this, look at splinter cell DA V1 and V2 or Rainbow six 3 on ps2 vs xbox then PC. Or Driver 3 on 360 vs wii
it’s also just an inefficient way to develop games
@@rexthewolf3149 The two games are developed by 2 separate studios, it's not that inefficient
@@happy5642642 and why not just have both studios work on the same project. twice the man power. Especially with how much more it takes to develop games these days. Or just have them work on something else entirely. It not like pc and console are that different. it was mostly done then mostly out of necessity. If you really want that hyper precise aim on console you could plug in a keyboard and mouse. You could do it in cs go on the ps3. if a games is built properly platform shouldn’t matter.
The 360 version still looks mighty impressive. Levels are pretty flat and basic, but for the time it was top notch.
I’m more surprised that with the sheer scale and what’s happening on the screen doesn’t make your Xbox explode
@@titanjakob1056 At the beginning of the generation most games where impressive like this. They pushed the hardware where it mattered, then as the generation went on the games got like a hallway, extremely packed of eye-candy but everything was static and in a way smaller scale.
I am still stunned Crysis 3 is on 360 lol
Awesome Gman mentioned Wanted I loved that game here's hoping that's the next review video
I remember absolutely loving these games.
I would have to disagree with the commentator as I played GRAW 1 and 2 on my 360 back when they first came out and now play it on PC and I thoroughly enjoy it by far on PC. The inane chatter of your teammates on the console version was so irritating and it could not be turned off like it can on PC. I could only stand their whiney "I can't go there!" so childish (not to mention their voices sounded like teenagers whining) that I could only play a little at a time. As he said, the PC version is much more of a strategic shooter requiring thinking. Yes, the AI teammates are dumb, but they have also saved my skin on more than one occasion by spotting and killing enemy that I didn't see. I also found that simply telling them to move elsewhere nearby eleminated pathfinding issues. I do agree that GRAW 2 is better than GRAW 1 but after playing a lot of Wildlands on both Xbox 1 and PC, I don't consider the modern versions of GR to even BE Ghost Recon games. Their just games.
"scott mitchel is too generic of a name" I mean, no offense Gman but they're soldiers. It's not like he's going to be called japoochinky maclunky or anything. They're meant to be grounded on the basic aspect like names
also the stories were great.
Love the videos and always look forward to everything you put out. I think the concept of games that are more enjoyable on console than pc is an interesting concept and something I would only trust you to do (coming from a pc guy). Would love to see a series on it!
Can we just just say how cool it is to learn the main character is also the same general from Tom clancy's endwar on the American side. Small thing but nice little detail.
I wish we got a GRAW or Future Soldier sequel instead of the open world trash but Ubisoft gonna Ubisoft.
Every single "classic" PC Ghost Recon and Rainbow 6 game with addons was about manual waypointing and viewangling in tactical map for you AI teammates. Only then they would move and act properly, and probably can actually finish complex objectives and even mission sometimes on their own. Also, you shouldn't shoot armored helicopters with assault rifle, in Ghost Recon you should have RPG or teammate with RPG. Especially if armored vehicles mentioned in briefing (they usually did).
The achiles heel of GRAW was the friendly player AI sadly... unlike the later games this was the one with the most complex maps, the one where you couldn't switch operators... and sadly the one despite needing it the most because of the afore mentioned had the worst AI of them all... I loved both of them, proper tac shooters through and through, despite the damage reductions and the irritating double hit for headshots*. As well I actually like the idea of controlling a single operator with the Clancy waypoint gameplay... but the crux of it would have been the AI being semi-reliable.
I think I spent more time trying to get them to get into position, much less execute basic stand in place actions per level than I ever did OCDing my planning phases in the first three rainbow Six Games combined... and in those games I could always switch over if there was an issue.
I've always had a notion in the back of my mind to see if anyone was able to fix this over the last 15 years. Given how mindblowing the mods were for these games back in the day (almost arma 3 level or at least they were on the way to it when I lost interest..) One of these days I really oughta rabbithole this and see what still exists on the internet.. The scriptability to was crazy accessible as well, with easy to edit files regardless of code knowledge, lot like stalker in spirit but with all of the engine level components (or near enough) easily able to open up and edit... also god bless that brief but sweet era of the chocolate peanut butter mix when PhysX's liquid simulations and moders with an affinity for gore were allowed to exist**...
Given that I took a look back at Stalker 13 years later and the community had rebuilt the game twice turns out, adding and adding more and more to a game that was a cult release and playerbase at the time, and stayed that way, and they loved it just as much then as now... where people finally are talking about it lol... Well, this game never had the cult following but fuck again stranger things have happened. The base game was so damn good, if it wasn't for that AI... So many proper mechanics that wouldn't be standards for years, and when they did rarely if ever were done on that level of proper... most getting consolitused and that then becoming the standard, and again not till years later, and almost never all at once. I could go on and on... and again, all love has a final destination of oh.... and the game revolves around the worst Ai for both the gameplay and in the franchise history (not that the bar wouldn't be lowered not long after... sigh).
*(every soldier who's ever seen combat would have loved to have a helmet that could stop a rifle round... I heard the latest attempts at developing one didn't go well, but it's been a while since I've checked in on it, lotta tech has come to practical fruition and even deployment since then so here's for hopin')
**(lol fuck you Crytek, again, for scouring the internet having all of these removed and then trying to hardpatch it out of the game... like how did german law allow for the first Far Cry as a international release, but suddenly all the user created mods for INTERNATIONAL VERSIONS is a violation of the at the time german law???? the fuck???)
2:10 LOL best cut-to I’ve ever seen in any of your videos. And I’ve been watching for many years…
We love you mate stay strong during the lockdown
The only Ghost Recon I played was Wildlands, and even then only got through the first map/region
I liked that game but it was just so easy to be killed in single player lol
i don't think you can call wildlands "ghost recon" anymore, at least when you take the series roots into account
I also died again and again on multiple playthroughs in that part on the prologue where your shoot the armored vehicle with the rocket. I always hit that damn low wall I’m glad you showed that
Thank you for the review!
Carlos doesn't escape in GRAW on the PS2. You actually have to chase him to the basement of a compound and kill him in a "boss battle" with some cutscenes in it. Then you can also liberate two of your guys who were taken prisoner before they are executed in a dungeon lookin area. It was pretty cool that they had the double endings but I can see how you could easily miss these as it took me a few years of playing the game to find it.
I never knew that so the last mission of graw was an alternative I guess it was too easy to take him down
I played the hell out of these games back in the day. So many fun multiplayer memories.
This was one of my first 360 games and I ABSOLUTELY loved it. I wish they made games like this now.
What really blew me away back in the day on the 360 was the audio, specifically sound travel. While nowhere on the level of something like Hunt: Showdown, it was still really impressive to see something blow up in the distance, and two seconds later you'd hear the muffled rumble of the explosion.
The edited smiles on the characters in your thumbnails cracks me the fuck up every time.
Just finished watching Raycevik's video on pre cod shooters, which features those 2 games and your vid poped up. Nice
the mini screen that allowed you to see what teammates saw was brilliant
I remember as a kid being so excited when my dad came home from work one day with GRAW for the Xbox 360, I LOVED that game. Good memories :)
Oh i remembered playing this when i was a wee lad, man i still remembered my console lagging on the cutscenes but the game itself was smooth and crisp. This game was a gem!
Can’t wait to get myself a nice beverage and sit down to enjoy this beauty of a video 🔥
I just remembered being BLOWN away by the 360’s GR. This was the first time I felt like I was playing in a new generation.
Going from ps2/xbox/gc to actual HD gaming was absolutely mind-blowing. And to add the 360 era was a lot of people's first time venturing into online gaming and that was another mind-blowing experience.
The co op in these games was so incredible.
GMAN thanks for uploading again :)