Tottenham Fans Should Learn a MASSIVE LESSON From The "PONZI SCHEME" Investors At Everton
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In this video we look at the ongoing issues faced by Everton in their owners pursuit of a sale of the club. I think there are major lessons to be learned by fans of Tttenham who want Daniel Levy out of the club as we also look for new investment from a multi cub ownership investor like 777 partners or MSP Capital.
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777 Partners aren't credible. They have bankrupted their Aussie airline & refuse to pay all staff's April wages. ABSOLUTE COWBOYS.
They also have mismanaged Melbourne Victory. They are shite operators
Same with Standard Liege now.
My girl lied when she said I’d had 776 partners
It isn’t hard to bankrupt an airline company. Entry to market is extremely high and the majority of companies that enter that market fail.
@@sah8956 Depends how you do it. The national carrier for Kazakhstan was profitable every non-Covid year since its inception after it gained independence from the USSR and it's not exactly got a global hub in its home portfolio, has it? It focuses on routes it can make money from (which include Dubai, Germany, Heathrow, Seoul, India and Russia). I flew with them last year to Almaty and they did a great job. The key to running a successful business is not going into battle with people who you will lose to. You don't find Air Astana trying to muscle in on LHR-JFK or LHR-Sydney etc etc. It may be part state-owned, but it pays them taxes, it doesn't drain their coffers.
Sean, glad for your finance back to help explain. I wouldn’t typically understand football finances and will have to watch a couple of times. This type of content not explained by other streams as far as I know. Love it. Keep us educated.
Great stream Sean
As a Tottenham Hotspur Fan from afar (Downunder), I understand the entreprenuarial business model that Daniel Levy is following. Also realise that his financial side will always rule his head as a controller of the club. The problem that I see that over the course of many years Levys control has been detrimental and stagnated the footballing side of the club whilst being financially successful as an enterprise for Enich. One trait that virtually all controlling people share, especially CEO's and Chairmans of private companies. They refuse to let go of that control and power as they do not believe or trust people. You would probably know that the Banking industry and Corporate world are full of psychopaths who are CEO's. One good thing about Levy. We know he is very astute and would not jeapardise and take the risk to damage the Tottenham brand. We don't want another Sam Bankman-Fried (FTX) debacle. If he backs Ange I am fine with Levy there, even though many fans have grieviances against him.
I would rather Levy than some sports washing Arab country owner
Especially since Tottenham has been historically considered a Jewish club having an Arab owner at this time would be very bad.
Your knowledge in this subject puts Sky Sports News to shame, top class Sean!
Thanks so much for the compliment mate
On the flip side, there have been plenty of credible investors into football clubs.
Again I find your content to be informative interesting and intelligent not fickle not reactionary but balanced and well thought through Sean Butler well done keep it up
Great video, like the way you broke everything down and put into context. Very informative thank you
Sean (& Bugsy!), thanks as ever for your insightful comments. I am always grateful for your expertise on the financial side of things. Appreciate your fair assessment when it comes to the ownership of THFC going forward. As you rightly say, “Be careful what you wish for …!” Recent history is littered with so called knights in shining armour bleeding clubs dry and selling when it suits them!
At this moment in time, the club is being well run off the pitch, providing the finance for recent managers to spend (not always wisely, I grant you!). However, the results on the pitch have been mediocre to say the least. Levy has to bear responsibility for his managerial appointments, which have until lately been of a knee-jerk reaction. Although he cannot be blamed for decisions made by those managers. I know DL has a reputation for being a control freak but the infrastructure he has put in place of late seems to address this element. That said, he still appears to have the final say when it comes to signing the cheques! I genuinely believe though, that as a Spurs fan himself, he makes important decisions on the basis of what’s best for THFC.
Well done! Sean! = That summary was brilliant. You actually laid everything out to us supporters about finances.
This is why I think this is the best Spurs channel.
It's just "up my alley" if that makes sense
It's different and open minded and also great when it comes to style of play, player analysis etc ...
Just the best channel ...
It's not the same boring nonsense you get at every other channel
Totally agree with your assessment on Levy and I'd go further, for me he's the best thing that's happened to my club. In 2000 we finished 13th, three places below Charlton. We were a mid table team with a small stadium, a poor training ground and no money. We were never even in the conversation for League titles. Over the last 23 years we have been steadily growing the club without ever risking it. A lack of trophies along the way has been more about luck than a lack of ambition. All the foundations have now been laid, all paid for within our means and not just for now but for decades to come. We are a massive club again and I don't say this in jest, Levy deserves a statue.
I’ve been saying for years.. be careful what you wish for!!! Levy and ENIC aren’t perfect but my goodness the “club” is always put first!!! It’s taken 20 years but I think we are going to see the benefit of Levy going forward! We now have money and I think he will start to spend it!!
See you in 20 years time !!
Top job mate, hope this gets listened too
Sean I follow your videos avidly and am a Hugh fan of your thoughtful, reasoned analysis rather than knee jerk responses but this video was your best yet! Thank you and carry on the great work.
I appreciate that
Super video. Great analysis
Sean, mate. Very imformative post. Basically, if Levy is looking for investors then due-diligence is of the utmost importance.
The main point is Levy runs Tottenham as a business the man has more interest in go =carting and the hotel going in...he never invests enough into the squad to get the quality needed to challenge .He says hes a fan well take a look at the shower down the road (Arsenal) challenging for titles not like us going for top 4 if lucky..
We have spent a lot over the last 3 windows though. Over £350m in the last 2 years is hardly peanuts.
I think Levy has turned a corner and things are changing.
As for the other money making parts, clubs will need to this because of FFP.
@@marktynan6820 we will see 25 years one trophy aint any signs of change same as his words the 'stadium would be a game changer 'we are still waiting ...
If that is all you got from this- you are an idiot.
@@darrenkilbane2613 it has been a game changer.. we would never have spent the money we have if the stadium wasn’t there. No chance.. we need to win something, I totally agree.. I just think we are now in a better position to do so.
Spurs are in the top 3-4 spenders lately. Poor signings like Tanguy giving sod all.
Great video Shaun, keep up the good work!
Now the FFP is finally kicking in there is no point in getting rid of Levy. We just need someone else to invest. He has stepped back from a lot of the areas we didn't want him in and it certainly won't hurt to have him at the top of the pyramid now.
Fabulous content as always Shaun
Protesting has rarely worked in history. Especially in sports.
Once again, you explain this better than anyone else mate.
Outstanding video mate, informative and easy to get my head around the issue of football finances 👏
Glad you enjoyed
Brilliant analysis as usual. Just one question who in their right mind would buy Everton? The costs of the stadium will continue escalating due to poor financing. Levy has structured our loans very well. I’m with you levy is a fifty/fifty.
Nice one Sean 👍 coys
Great video Sean 💪🏻💪🏻💙💙
Sean mate, love your content as always👍Would love to sit in a pub and chat one day👍 Cheers Graham
You make a lot of pertinent points regarding Daniel Levy, but the anger exists because he is not aligned with the fanbase in terms of what constitutes as success. If he just came out and said I'm here to increase the value of our investment, and winning cups is not our priority, personally, I'd have far more respect for the man. Instead the narritive from the club over many years just grates, snd you end up feeling they are taking us for a ride. A ride we all spend a lot of time and money on.
Fascinating analysis as ever Sean. Maybe we will get some low hanging fruit this summer. We definitely need new faces anyway.
Blimey. Sean. Excellently researched, learned a lot, did not know about the multi club ownership model with investors in multiple clubs… definitely did not understand PIF were major shareholders in Clearlake and therefore Chelsea
Great show mate. Very objective and insightful. Love you show. COYS
Glad you enjoyed it
Brilliant analysis
Fascinating insight Sean .
It is evident that football is in very dangerous waters in the cases of some clubs .
I am very much in alignment you on the Daniel Levy situation .
The voice of reason. Thanks Mr B. I have had enough of the people who are so dead set against enic. They dont look at history, wont countenance the goings on at other clubs, because usually, it highlights how unreasonable and shallow their arguments are. When i ask them they can only tell me what they dont want. Not how they are going to get what they want. I saw that you refused to debate Brian Degel. Good for you. He's a waste man. Looking to drain everyones time in exchange for enlarging his own ego.
Brian is a good guy, Ill stream with him anytime. You're thinking of Stel. Theres probably one or two people across the entire youtube space who have demonstrated behaviour that i do not think is acceptable and hence wont reward them with a platform. Its like giving into a barking dog or screaming toddler. It encourages more of the same behaviour. I have standards
@@SpursTalkShow yep my mistake. I get names mixed up at the best of times as my children and wife will atest.
Very interesting, seems that those with successful multi club ownwership models are companies that have high profile business interests in other areas or are sovereign wealth funds and not just a shell investment company. And totally agree about the futility of fan protest when it comes to club ownership.
Sean you have a beautiful mind. If you didn’t drop this video here I wouldn’t know about the other channel!
Appreciate that mate
CHEERS SEAN, JUST CLARIFIED TO ME THAT WE FUCKED, AND NEVER GOING ANYWHERE, AS WE NOW CASH COW FC NOT TOTTENHAM HOTSPURS ,,,, FOOTBALL CLUB
Well done Sean,excellent report
Great knowledge and prep Sean. Always a good adult presentation affair.
Bloody brilliant, need more vids on the financial aspects of football 💪
Excellent & necessary episode. Impossible to separate the pitch from the administrative office & my opinion is that Mr. Levy has kept the team safe & 1st things 1st. HOWEVER, was Very disappointed w/you & panel in previous show being so completely dismissive & contemptuous toward our women when they are on the verge of doing what the men have been unable to do; winning a cup. We seem to have gotten a real manager and the story of going from the threat of relegation to a cup final in 1 yr. is brilliant in itself. I for 1 was way tired of seeing a team wearing the badge getting the shit kicked out of themselves wk after wk. How great it was to see the camera go to the stands at Tottenham Stadium last Dec. while our women were beating the arsenal (1 more thing the men couldn't do) and seeing Ange sitting together w/Mr Levy supporting the side. As it relates to this episode, dismissing and discouraging the women's game (in 2024!!) and it's ability to grow the bottom line is note helpful in my view. What I was hoping is that you & the other supporter streams would give us is a watch along for this final
Appreciate this objective view by you Shawn
Great video Sean.
Thanks for the visit
I always find you do an amazing job when it comes to explaining the finance side of football, and I also really enjoy these types of uploads. great job as always buddy.
Glad you enjoy it!
Really interesting video Sean. Thanks for the upload. I find if interesting how we seem to be doing deals with Genoa and Sevilla, two clubs we seem have good relationships with. I wonder if ENIC is looking to see if they are put up for sale so he can pounce and form this multi club partnership. Before 777 bought Standard Liege we were linked to buying them.
We shall see
Loved it ❤
Well informed, thanks for explaining things Sean, great insight I throughly enjoyed listening to you
Glad you enjoyed it
Oh, Spurs fans, with hearts so bold,
In the quest for glory untold,
Let not your hopes soar too high,
For the winds of change may pass you by.
Under Levy's watchful eye,
Where dreams of triumph reach the sky,
Beware, for pain may lie in wait,
As aspirations meet a cruel fate.
The Premier League, a distant dream,
A trophy's gleam, a fleeting beam,
In Levy's realm, where shadows loom,
Your hopes may wither, your hearts consumed.
So heed this warning, dear Spurs kin,
Let not false hopes lead you in,
For in the realm where dreams take flight,
Lies the bitter truth of sorrow's bite.
In Levy's kingdom, cold and stark,
Where dreams may crumble, hopes disembark,
Tread lightly, for pain may be your guide,
As illusions fade and hopes subside.
Oh, Spurs fans, with passion true,
In the face of trials, stay resolute,
But know that under Levy's reign,
Your dreams may shatter, only pain.
So lower your gaze from lofty heights,
Embrace the truth that dims the lights,
For in the shadows, clarity reigns,
And in acceptance, resilience gains.
Let not false hopes lead astray,
In Levy's kingdom, where dreams decay,
For in the realm of stark reality,
Lies the essence of true humility.
So hush now, dear Spurs fans, and hear,
The whispers of caution drawing near,
In Levy's realm, where dreams may break,
Find solace in the truth they wake.😭😭😭
Beautiful poem
good effort.. ChatGPT or your own work?
@@SpursTalkShow don't know, but willing to bet it wasn't stelios or degul that did the work
Excellent summary Sean. I think Bugsey should do the sniff tests for funders! As for Levy in / out, channels advocating out are getting boring. It's a one track album.
And the song is scratched lol
As you quite rightly state this is not about debating Levy in or Levy out. That's like discussing politics or religion, nobody ever wins. Take that subject off the table and the best channel by far for providing information and insightful thoughts on what's happening at Spurs is undoubtedly yours mate. Keep doing what you're doing. Number of subscribers don't lie.
Thanks so much Malt
Brilliant Analysis.👍👏👏
thanks mate
Sean your objectives as stated were in my opinion achieved. I think our owners are excellant not perfect they make mistakes but who doesn't.
So by all means get more investment - whatever that means - but be sure it really is a great deal
Clear as day Sean. Good stuff. Levy never gets the credit he deserves. Even many of the mistakes he has made were borne out of his working in the best interests of the club
Great vid mate. Very well structured and easy to digest. Appreciate all your efforts!
Hi Sean.
On a subject away from finances and Tottenham, I've been told that ball flingers are bad for dogs because of the way they run, jump and stop puts too much preasure on their joints, even in small dogs.
I've stopped using my one for my Cocker Spaniel.
Cheers mate ,keep up the great vids.
Everton would just do what Forest did and claim that the rules stop them getting most for a player and take the 4pt deduction because they could get 50m more if they sold after June 31st.
Wow, what a video!
Glad you liked it!
Daniel Levy knows what he's doing. And any of the Levyout brigade who think new owners would have any passion for the football club are sadly mistaken and completely off the mark.
Stick to Plymouth😅
What do you feel about this points fiasco for clubs, because it hurts the players, fans everyone because of financial decisions by the respective football boards. Would it not be more fair to hit the board members in their financial pockets. Because the fans and players and managers do not have the final say on buying and selling players.
Am i looking at Top Golf Addlestone and sometimes the park near brooklands in your walkabout vids???
shhhh :)
Moved away now but it was a nice area 👍
I wonder if European football will ever go to a salary cap system. Like many American sports. So many clubs outside the PL cannot afford transfer fees. Maybe if each league decides on a salary cap, they could just trade players instead of paying a transfer fee. It would help smaller clubs that have 1 superstar player. Trade them for 4 or 5 prospects on lower wages. It would also even the playing field as well. We would see more Leicester stories than just the same handful of teams winning their league every season.
For me, in St. Louis MO USA, I think the history of of playoff competitors in MLS proves the value of what you suggest. Even playing field = healthy league
@stevefeltner8181 what's the point of supporting a club that's consistently midtable in the PL? Finish 9th to 15th every season. At least if the playing field was equal, those fans would have something to dream about. I suppose the same could be said about Spurs in the last 16 years tho 😂
I think the club should go back to a private share ownership with vetted shareholders to buy 45% of the club at market value and lock down 55% as a trust with vetted chairman,directors etc to keep the club in good hands!?? But can this happen??
not really, and would be massively problematic unless all clubs went in the same direction similar to the 50+1 rule in germany. We would get left behind
Question? ( Sean )
Do you think FFP & PSR will eventually be scrapped which will then lead to Newcastle etAl having a complete free reign to spend uncontrollably
You have to respect Levy on the whole, my only real criticsms are; the season we could have got top 4 with Redknapp he never backed him, the seasons he never backed Poch to fund the stadium and then sacked Poch for failing, the way he got rid of Jol and the fact Hoddle was not backed and was sacked to early. However, look at teams like Leicester, Wham, Newcastle and Aston Villa who have all had the embarrassment and heart ache of relegation, something we have never had to deal with in almost 50 years! The fact we have been competitive and had good European runs and now with the stadium and training facilities are in a position to progress massively, these are huge positives for Levy!
Daniel Levy is a cheapskate, bean counter, he doesn't give a crap about football.
Everton fans wanted Bill kenwright out and welcomed this idiot in with open arms because he initially at least came in and spent silly money. Now they find themselves in a right mess. Levy isnt perfect but we are more competitive and financially stronger now than we were under sugar. Looking at Everton and remembering the mess we were in under scholar before sugar came in does give a sense of perspective. Just need levy to be a bit less risk adverse and let football people make the football decisions.
They did a runner in Australia perfect for buying spurs cheers ✌
You can get Onana and Branthwaite out of your head these players are going to top clubs, Branthwaite is a 100m player
tbh i dont care who owns spurs or how they get their money i just want to win things bored and tired of the same shit year in year out 7 years in ucl NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT arsenal 2nd year in are now buying 100m plus players and are about to sign raphinia ,, mate if nothing changes this summer im done 40 years ive been following this club thick and thin .. been to long since we have been given something back while Levy builds his Tavistock empire the London division ,, enough of the excuses first it was we need a new stadium to compete .. nothing oh we need more concerts .. nothing oh wait FFP will help us .. nothing .. Sean there must be a time you take the money hat off and see enic as the liars they are and that they are taking the piss out of us
Greed and avarice alive and well in the world of professional football including the EPL.
Easier to say THE CLUBS FUCKED, THE MONEY IS LOOKING ROSIE
I agree fans are so naive about ownership. I’m like you not an in or out. But Levy has rescued our club and put us into a competitive position. My concern with too many American owners in Prem. they might vote for no relegation. Play offs to determine league and play prem matches/ cup overseas
I will probably upset other Tottenham supporters but I will back D Levy all day long he’s never put the club in jeopardy . He built fantastic training ground and a stadium which is second to none in the UK ,yes we want trophies and a team to be proud of
Keep going Sean. Ignore the noise.
That's the plan!
Hi Sean what's the value of MSP also it's been quoted the Lewis wants out but we all know or should that levy has no intention of selling his shares or giving up control so would msp buy Lewis out while allowing levy to carry on as chairman
Also would any investment be allowed to pay stadium bill off so as too allow more money to speed on players
Mark
Brilliant channel by the way and hope you are keeping well
It may not be a bad thing for another owner who wants a cash cow and no want to manage the club
Would have enjoyed this more but for the ucking adverts
sorry mate, not my fault
All I want to do is support a FOOTBALL CLUB ⚽️
they're exploring a bid MSP Sports Capital to buy Everton
They're already 150m in the hole to the Everton process but it will depend on the valuation to satisfy the prior creditors as mentioned in the video
@@SpursTalkShow MSP's loan repayment is 158m 777 has to satisfy that which they've failed to do so far and MSP can activate a charge on Moshiri’s shares to gain full control of the club 777 can't get the money no investors will lend them the money/capital
Branthwaite & Onana are NOT going to take Spurs forward. They play for relegation fodder and Branthwaite is overrated. Aim higher unless you are happy being a Conference League outfit
Knobend
Levy is a Ponce 😂
Levy is a Great Chairman, but he shouldnt be involved in transfers though.
Wise words, Sean. Frying pan and fire is a real risk for us ( for those who believe ENIC and Frying pans align…)
I see “Tottenham Away” have got an upcoming podcast referencing you Sean. You going to jump on?
Have they? lol More subs coming my way then lol.. and no, i dont associate with toxicity.
@@SpursTalkShow I’ve watched it, he laid it on quite thick although fair play to him he doesn’t make it personal. If I’m honest, I think debating him would be worthwhile, mainly for a lot of us who can see both sides to it. He’s not stupid by any stretch and you two are equals imo, so would be a great debate. Think about it Sean, nothing for you to lose pal
Honestly don’t rate Stel, he’s a coach but keeps parroting that Ange has been found out. Got news for Stel all the attacking shapes and defensive shapes teams play have been in football since 1930-1960’s. So being “found out” isn’t reality. Neither is spending 200$ on 4 or 5 players every year.
Top golf mate 😂
Nothing wrong with walking the dog, smashing out a vid and working on my long game is there? lol
Great analysis mate! I agree with fan protests never working, 10 guys protesting outside our club shop will never affect Levy.
So protests across the country by fans against the super league didn't stop it? Arsenal owners didn't back arteta properly when they mass protested against their owners and could now potentially win the league. Levy and the board didn't sack nuno after United game and hearing his name being chanted in the stadium? All these recent news articles of new investment isn't because protesters have put pressure on the owenrs? Newcastle fans protested against theirs and now have the richest owners in the world. Man Utd protested and now him ratcliffe bought it. Saying protests does nothing is ridiculous, doing nothing does nothing. Protests put pressure on in one way or another and until you join us for change at spurs nothing will ever change
@@iHateeeMarmite Like Sean said, the Man Utd n Newcastle fan protests had no impact for years, the owners decided when to sell when they wanted to sell. Levy is obviously incredibly thick skinned and he'll make changes when fan unrest potentially affects his bottom line but he's never going to bow to pressure to sell the club unless there is a HUGE coordinated backlash against him that affects business in a hugely meaningful way.....Our fanbase is so consistently divided that they couldn't even arrange a piss up in a brewery, never mind organise a mass boycott of games to force an ownership change.
Don't touch the mutli club owership
The best Spurs CZcams channel.
Appreciate that mate
Lets be honest Levy and Enic will not risk there legacy by not selling to decent people. Interesting, whether you ment it or not you only highlight worst case scenario regarding the situation.
I just brought a news story to the channel and used it as a talking point. This wasnt an agenda piece buddy. Im open to investment providing the 3rd party is viable.
@@SpursTalkShow thanks for replying and putting into context.
Time will show how well levy has handled this all. Whinge all you want, we are much healthier than other clubs with all new everything while others have stadiums crumbling to the ground. Time will tell. Time will tell.
So you say we shouldn't want new owners because one club out of 92 in the football pyramid are a bunch of criminals cueing thst logic they are 90 orther reasons we should ask for new owners.
did i say that? Dont think i did lol. Simply bringing new info to open minded people perhaps youre not one of them
@@SpursTalkShow you started with a warning to those who want levy out
We get it sean😂 levy good. Other owners bad😅
yeah im not sure this is for you Mo. I know youre a staunch levy out so probably something that youll dismiss and be irritated by. Thats cool. Propaganda is available elsewhere mate :)
@@SpursTalkShowI like the info but always get depressed with your conclusions. Btw, which propaganda? All the facts against levy are proven facts... you have blind faith in levy which I don't have for the bloke. Would love to see a debate between you and stelios from tottenham away and settle it once and for all..
Hi Sean, this video should have been on your other channel. in all effect you have tried once again to show your club stance bias and godlike belief in levy.
If you where open minded you would have given a more wider view,ie examples of people who own multiclubs correctly.
You dont help with those that say you are not pro Levy. You are so obsessed with having a pop at those who dont like levy after 25 yrs. Very patronizing....
And let's take your player purchase to levy . How does based on our current managers stance , how does prioritizing deals at clubs in financial stress match Ange precise targets ...
24 years and no trophies to match.
PLEASE SEAN DO YOU MIND PUBLISHING HOW MUCH SPURS HAVE PAID IN DIVIDENDS IN THE PAST DECADES
Ok. 1. They have paid zero in dividend ever or at least the last 10 years. But pretty sure the entire time. 2. You clearly miss the point entirely. And clearly havent listened to any of it as i gave 2 examples of the best examples of MCOs that work lol. Its not me that has the bias pal. Your mind is made up on Levy so you should spend your time listening to channels that tell you what you want to hear and not what you need to know. Im here to bring facts and insights. Propaganda can be found elsewhere.
Sean I think it's absolutely pathetic that you don't want to debate Stelios. I think it just shows you up for the coward that you are because you are scared of being schooled by a Levy outer. I think it's something that the Tottenham community would like to see because I believe you are all talk. You don't want to raise the standards of Tottenham you are quite happy with just jollying along and seeing Tottenham fail time after time after time. You are quite happy to debate anyone else that's Levy out but you know deep down Stelios knows his stuff and you're scared of being embarrassed.
Good attempt at trying to 'bait' Sean but you failed. He has his reasons for not engaging with Stel and I respect and accept that. You should too.
@KeepItReal-uy8pz what are Seans lappy dog ? What he can't speak for himself no ? He doesn't want to debate Stelios because he knows deep down Stelious will run rings round him
@Smoke0848 You are funny. 'lappy dog' ....😂
@@KeepItReal-uy8pz Keep, the clue is in the name. Smoke. As in Blowing
Sean, I appreciate you brother - but you are talking too a brick wall of people that are levy out. They are so far engrained and institutionalised in their own beliefs that regardless of the facts, the next words mouth breathed out of their lips will be levy out.
Thanks mate, you're right about them, but im not talking to them, im talking to open minded people like yourself who may be interested in whats going on!
Just out of interest where is your breaking point what does levy and enic have to do to get u to say enough is enough they have taken us as far as they can and it's time to stand up and protest to get new owners in because the levy outers which I am one am done with this club being made a joke off because levy and enic doesn't have any ambition to want to compete or try to win trophies as long as they get European football they are happy and as a fan base surely we want to see our football club win trophies and try to compete at the highest level
@@Joe-zj1oiTo think the owners do not want to win trophies is laughable. Success will increase revenue, fanbase, sponsorship etc. which in turn leads to improving the squad to compete for more success. It’s called sustainable development