Atlas Transfer Case // Special Toyota Installation Craziness
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- In this one I begin the apparently long process of installing a 4 speed Atlas Transfer Case from Advanced Adapters into my Toyota FJ Cruiser solid axle swap project. I spend a bunch of time following the wrong instructions and find out that a machine shop is required for installation!
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Mad respect for people who still have the drive to do things that were never meant to be. Custom builds can be extremely frustrating but they are SOOOO COOOOL when they're completed and the dream becomes a reality. Keep it up and keep posting the great content.
Thank you for the encouragement! 😁
This channel deserves to have a million subs
Thanks for your enthusiastic support!
Agreed!
You sir are a better man than I. I love that you can chuckle about it. I'd be so pissed... There's really no excuse for the lack of instructions and parts that aren't properly milled. Lacks customer focus.
It's pretty crazy. I think Atlas's are usually installed by "professionals" that do them semi frequently.
I hear ya, but Ken, If I'm not mistaken you are a professional. Consider every 4x4 shop in America having to fumble through this for the first time, and the adaptation is brand/type of vehicle specific as well. Forgetting about the lack of customer focus, I'm surprised AA thinks they can afford to take those calls. So much simpler is to provide bullet proof instructions even to professionals. (And... Assuming the milled part was just an oversight).
Ken, I look forward to your new videos every week. Thanks for allowing all of us to enjoy your FJ build.
Thanks for coming along for the ride!
Ken, your sense of humor had me dying during this one
Welcome to the world of "one size fits nothing".
Really enjoying the build. Traded my 2011 FJ for a Taco last year. Dumbest car decision I've ever made.
After 28 years (retired last August) as a Euro Car Tech I have absolutely NO patience for parts that don't fit. MY hat is off to you.
"One size fits nothing" I like that! Thanks for watching!
Dude you have sooooo much more patience than I would.
Going to be awesome though.....
They say "patience is a virtue" and you my friend has that! Good insight on a fab TC for the FJ. Wow. Just wow! I'm sure you'll get it made.
Staying tuned. See ya Monday! - Rey
Thanks for watching!!
The struggle is real!!! Hang in there.
I freakin love your vids. Re watching all of this
Awesome thank you!
Congrats, and some advice from a friend that installed the atlas on his Fj. The stub shaft that they supply needs to be polished to prevent transmission oil leak between the seal and the stub shaft. Also the seal they provide is not high quality and it is nowhere near the quality of Toyota oil seal. Use some Toyota seal packing/high temp or equivalent when installing the oil seal into the transmission. The leaks occur from 2 places. One from the body of the seal and transmission housing where the seal seats and #2 leak is from the stub shaft which the oil seal “LIP” sealing/touching the surface of the stub shaft when transmission is engaged and turning. He and others called and complained about this to advance adaptor and it has fallen on “DEAF” ears, since it is not a jeep!! If jeep had this issue, they would had fixed it very quickly, but they sell very few transfer cases to Toyota owners, so they don’t care.
Thanks for the pointers! You say the stub shaft needs to be published? You mean polished, or something different?
@@offroadhub.official lol Yes, polished, also you need to put some high temp grease inside the lip of the seal when installing the stub shaft. The polishing will prevent friction between the seal and the metal surface and you are extending the life of the oil seal.
Aah yes, the "FUN." of a custom build... a great learning experience for sure!
I had a feeling that this shirt would be appropriate when I put it on!
Hey Ken, the reality of what your doing comes across and as always, great content! There is a payoff for your patience even tho it may be a little further down the trail so to speak. Custom is always a challenge, thanks for taking it on. 5k is just the beginning! Congrats!
It's nice when things just go together easily, but you are right, the eventual payoff will be huge!
Thanks for sharing your experience on this project.
Always Something lol
You’d think Atlas would make it turn key to install in a Toyota application. Looking forward to the next video!
Custom stuff is always so much fun. Keep it up.
Kudos to you on doing this project. Learning a lot and respect for your work!
Awesome, Ken!
Was wondering how much adaptation would be required for this project. Now I know, a lot!
Yes quite a bit. These are intended for custom builds, but tend to have Jeep configurations in mind primarily.
Yeah this is a great channel. Other channel just say. Yup it's in now for the test drive
I believe the first video I watched of yours is the one you busted the window and taillight out. And I think broken a couple more things. That would be my luck lol
Great Job~ Nothing is easy.. looking forward to watching next episode~
Thanks for watching!
Holy Cow 🐄 .I would loose my mind!!!!
I have an atlas in my 85 toyota it is a 3spd Tcase but my front case is still the original toyota just with the 2.26 gears. I do have front dig. I went this way on my duals because now it is now 30spline all the way thru so i can use the front case without blowing the shaft. Bones customs in Oregon city, Oregon. I daily it a couple weekends ago went browns for a poker run ran up the obstacle 7up. Atlas is an awsome case. Also they do make a case that can bolt directly to the toyota T-Case. I still have a 22re with a W56 trans. I have pics its still running. Still all toyota drivetrain. Ive had it in my truck for more than 5yrs now.
I feel like a little GNR Patience is what we need. Look forward to the videos twice a week Ken, thank you for bringing us along!.
Thank you!
Lol ... I can feel your frustration all the way up here in Canada 🇨🇦
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Hi Ken. As long as advanced adapters has been around, and the number of Toyota’s out there, there’s no excuse for this shame on them!
This would’ve been an excellent free advertisement for them! I’ll be checking into marlin crawler!
@@fjoffrd1240 Taco box is an option but doesn't get you selectable drive, you have to smash the gas tank, and it retains the strength of the factory chain driven transfer case.. I'll be asking Advance about the gusset machining when they call for final payment..
The taco box is good I'm sure, but I know it takes some gas tank modification and that didn't sound like something I wanted to do at this time.
Patience is a virtue, you will need much of it during this build. I share the general sentiment of the crowd in saying this is unacceptable on the part of Advanced Adapters. The reality of how rare of a project you are building is to spend that amount of money and then have all this work yet to do just to get it ready to install. In the end you'll make it work and it will be amazing. Congrats on 5k, should be 50k+ based on your awesome content. Stay strong, Ken, cheers.
I would think they could have easily finished the machining they had started. Thanks for your support!
Ouch! I thought I was the only one that has to take things back apart 2 or 3 times before I get it right. Congratulations on smiling through the whole video, I probably would have been throwing things around my shop. 😜
Sometimes I smile sarcastically... Thanks for watching!
I had a new (2001) 4.3:1 Atlas at the time in my Ford Ranger. It was a easy install, good luck. It was a heavy beast to install
Very heavy!!
Going to be a a monster once completed! Hope for not too many hurdles on your build.
Good video. Accidently, an ad for Marlin Crawler.
Maybe. You need to shrink the gas tank with the Marlin when putting it into an FJ. That's no small task.
Thanks for posting 👍 Congrats on the 5K That’s awesome!
That transfer case looks solid, you will get it all worked out, it is strange they didn’t mill that gusset out especially at that price. Sounds like a mini mill in your future??? 🙂 take care Ken.
I'll need to expand my work space before I get any machinery like that! Thanks for watching!
@@offroadhub.official you can shave down alloy with a wood saw. ttc. or any tungsten blade. slowly.if you bought a rubicon. 3 lockers,d44,s 4 to1 transfer. no ifs garb.. save you a sht load. ill keep my 82 bronco sas. thanks,cost nothing.8 stud diffs.. mate here in aus, has an 80 series,,std,4" lift. goes everywhere. 33" tires.. your a good driver,, 90% of 4x4ing is the nut behind the wheel,not the vehicle..FJ,s are too short. you need 2.9 ish metre wheel base. ie,bronco,80 series,gu nissan..i also have a cut to swb highboy 75 f250..fit front locker,job done..... a wanted 4x4,for me,wouild be a dodge power wagon,new,,cab chassis,which they dont make,but i would. same w/b as my f250 ,75..swb..dirt every day,made a swb s/duty,from an excursion,with reduction hubs.. you make good vids with good content,explanations.. hope the build turns out as you like..if you want a laugh,,watch 4x4 inskip beach.. ....we are ashamed..
@@offroadhub.official note,,for a smidge of 5k,id be fitting a 205 cross 208,?,hybrid. do on bench transfer. plus, YOU NEED A STIK DRIVE. auto will kill you..go price a lock up converter.. then go buy an nv4500..
Dude your so patient. I would have been throwing wrenches across my shop like early on in this ordeal 😂
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Your amazing...great video/channel. BTW your cracking me up with the “smile” pause at the end of the scenes! Lol
I'm glad you caught that. 😉
@@offroadhub.official LOLOLOL Classic!
Ken, thanks a million for this awesome content! I've already started the list for when my TCASE comes in July. Thinking I'll ask them about that machining when then call for final payment in a few weeks.... Super interested in seeing what else you run into, can't wait to see how far clocked you can get that thing for extra ground clearance. Guessing I'll have my own challenges since I'm running an MT so I'll get to have some of my own "Figure it out" fun.
I'm glad you get to see what troubles I run into! Definitely tell them to do that machining for you! It should be done for what you're paying... I'm not sure what I want to do on the clocking. If I were still IFS flat would be the way to go for sure. I'm thinking maybe some angle though, just to lower the front output to decrease driveline angle. Again, with IFS the front differential is stationary, so flat would be it. I know flat can be done, I've seen it. We'll see what happens!
Big fun...
I’m getting ready to do this dana60 sas swap on my 06 4Runner . I’d sure like to buy your fj tcase as mine is the electric version and need your manual version. Great content and two videos a week is some work!👍 I also have a channel called buisy Boyd’s but haven’t posted in awhile. I can’t wait to see this beast on the rocks!🍻👍🇺🇸
My old tcase is already sold! Thanks for watching!
I wish I had half your patience and mechanical ability.
Good video Kustom stuff is always a pain in the butt if I were you taking that piece down to get milled and machined I would do them both at the same time that way you have a spare
I’m really stoked to see this thing on the ground and running on its own power hurry up Will ya😂🤣
I'm working on it!
great video! thank you. I do not have a toyota, i have a jeep and I am looking at purchasing an Atlas TC
That will be awesome! Thanks for watching!
You're going to need more Loctite.
I just got my 4 speed atlas this week and the whole instructions situation sucks. I did the exact same thing with the planetary cable shifter plate! After the amount of money people pay you would think they could make some half decent instructions. They also forgot a bunch of hardware for mine.
It's pretty confusing!
FUN.
Always!
We kinda run into the withhold information scenario a lot these days. Too bad it must be placed under the floor panels. Cuz it looks so cool. I'd want to see it working.
It is a beautiful piece of machinery for sure! I'll stick a camera underneath so you can see it in action once I'm back on the trails!
My dumb ass would have been hitting that with a grinder haha! What a piece of gear!
Great build! What did you pay for the Atlas?
They are almost $5k...
Great info. Would this also work on a 3rd gen Toyota 4runner with IFS (which I'm converting to manual locking hubs)? Or do I have to convert to a SAS? I'm a noobie at this and want to learn more about 4wd conversions so i can also get out there and have fun with my first ever 4wd.
Yes, you could put an Atlas in an ifs 4 runner. It's a huge job, not a bolt up kind of modification.
@@offroadhub.official Hi, what would be the advantages/benefits of installingthe Atlas transfer case over the stock transfer case? Thank you for your time.
@@igorotabatan8963 the Atlas offers lower gearing and the ability to control front and rear axles independently.
@@offroadhub.official thank you so much for the info and your time. I'm still a noobie at 4 wheeling so thank you for your videos.
5K for what is reported to be the Best Transfer case in the world and inadequate install info is Obscene. Thought a LOT more from Advanced Adapters Atlas products. No doubt, in the end it will kill anything in the trail but still......
Absolutely. I'm sure the majority of Atlas's are installed by guys that frequently install them, so Advanced Adapters can slack on instructions.
Great videos!! One thing to mention, to get that ratio you have to order the 4 speed Atlas. Not the 2 speed. How long did it take to get yours? Mines been ordered since February 3rd and still waiting☹️
I ordered mine on December 10th 2020. It took almost 5 months total. They were pretty accurate with their time estimate.
Where did you get the adapter plate from
The company that makes the Atlas is actually called Advanced Adapters, they make the adapter plate.
watching this one close, I wanna put an atlas in my tacoma
Honestly with a Tacoma i would go with a Taco box from Marlin
Greetings from Russia.
I also have Atlas 4 speeds on TLC 70 short (3 doors)
But when you turn on HI-4, a strong howl of the gear appears!
In general, she seemed quite noisy.
How are you with noises Atlas 4?
It is definitely more noisy than a factory transfer case! Mine makes some noise, but I guess it's normal.
@@offroadhub.official - Thx!
This weeks shirt , Fun . Next weeks shirt , It Turns Out .
Always so much FUN.....
How long did you have to wait for that transfer case?
4 months to get the case, plus another month to get all the parts that went with it.
Hi, noobie here again. Are you selling your front &rear axles & transfer case? I'm not well versed on 4wd vehicles but I'm learning and wanted to know what the gear ratios are on both your old axles and if the rear axle would bolt onto my 3rd gen 4Runner. I wanted to convert to disk brakes for the rear. I know the front ifs & spindles/hubs and front diff are the same on my 4runner but I'm not sure about the gear ratios. Your expertise would be greatly appreciated & thank you for your time
Hello. I sold everything already. I was running a 4.88:1 gear ratio in my axles, which was not stock. I regeared when I went to 35 inch tires. The 8.2 rear end should be something you can put under your 4 runner with minimal modification. You might have to do some things with the brakes, going from drum to disc.
@@offroadhub.official hello, thank you again for sharing your build on CZcams. Your old axles would've been perfect for my 4Runner as I was planning on going with 35" tires. It's good to know that I could use the rear axle from an FJ without having to do a lot of mods to get rear disk brakes on my 4Runner. Many Thanks and keep your videos coming. Stay safe.
Do you make your own music is this just youtube's free stuff?
Either way its nice not to be tortured with that weird electronic stuff you tend to hear nowadays! The atlas looks sweet!
My music is from epidemicsound.com. I try to avoid over use of music.
How u liking ur atlas . Pros n con update?
I love it! My only small complaint is that it leaks a tiny bit from multiple locations. Not enough to drip, but more like it's sweating oil. No big deal.
So why not a marlin crawler dual transfercase?
you can not use those on the FJ. they hit the gas tank
I didn't want to modify my gas tank, like Jeff said.
Such a shame that marlin no longer makes their transfer cases. Would’ve been a much easier transition.
Modifying the gas tank would still be difficult. And getting the shifters mounted is still a project.
Jeez. For the price it’s ridiculous that you have to go and have things machined. I would have been more upset than you.
Hey dude, that's an awsome video! interested in collaboration?
Thank you. Sure collaboration sounds fun. Email me at offroadhub.official@gmail.com 👍
How long did you wait for the atlas? I was told 6-12 months back ordered.
I waited almost 5 months to get everything. I don't know their current least times, but they were pretty accurate in their estimate when I ordered on early December.
I ordered mine 3/25/2021, estimated delivery of 7/9/2021 on my invoice, so a little over 3 months. Actual date to be seen...
No the feeling ,lousy instructions advanced adapters?
Yeah they're instructions leave a lot to be desired. But I guess most of the people installing these have and will do them multiple times so they don't need instructions as much. I'm just a guy in my garage figuring it out though, so trial and error!
13:31 that's a trivial modification to make with a grinder, come on. Hit it with a flap disc and be done with it.
😄 yeah... Just go for it right?!
Hi there, this is Liz from MXR, a brand of rebuilding and car parts. Are you interested in any CZcams business collaborations?
Sure. Email me at offroadhub.official@gmail..com
company sucks.....
Well they certainly do not cater to Toyota installations.
Hmmm... in the off-road world “Japanese” usually means .. more for less so to speak.. and definitely when your talking Toyota or Nissan... but you lost me with the atlas... you must hang out with JEEP guys.. Just Empty Every Pocket. Good luck with this project..
I'm not the first person to put an Atlas in a Toyota. 😉
Are you sure... lmao. I’m watching your build anyway.. it’s not what you buy it’s how you build it... most important part of that build.. the space between the steering wheel and driver seat. I look forward to seeing out on the trails soon. Like I said good luck with this project