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Same, man, I ordered mine the other day. 🤘 A lot of people seem to think it's awful...not sure why. This'll replace my rat pedal for my heavy metal gigs.
I think people expect it to sound like the full blown amp.. which in many ways it does. But its really all in how you use it. Just like you mentioned, it works best when you add it to a rig that otherwise didnt have that heavy gain sound. I still sort of wish they didnt name it an “Overdrive” because its a bit misleading.. its a distortion pedal. Thanks for the comment! Enjoy! 🤘🏼😜
That’s basically what I planned to use it for also. But I want to get the newer Seymour Duncan Power Stage power amp. This way all I would need is a Cab. Let us know how it works out for you! 🤘🏼😜
I own one of these pedals and an EVH 5150iiis EL34 100 Watt head. While MXR claims this pedal is supposed to be the blue channel, i would say its actually a bit closer to the red channel of the amp. Key word being "closer". If you have an EL34 amp, this pedal can turn your rig into a very near clone of an EVH 5150. I'm sure it would do the same for any tube amp but i can only speak for my EL34. I also do highly recommend this pedal but i do also highly recommend the actual amp.
I haven’t had the chance to rock the EL34 models. I considered it when I purchased my last 50 watt but opted for something I was already used. But i have heard great things about those models and I l’m definitely pick one up eventually. Thanks for sharing what you’re Rockin dude! Stay healthy and safe! \m/
Okay, so say I had an old '89 JCM800 50 watt lead with EL34's in it. Could I get a nice brown sound out of that if I plugged in my Jackson with its stock high output pickups?
@@bretttrommler756 I don’t see why not. I would try using the fx loop first. So your signal would be guitar>5150>fx loop return. I’m not sure if the mxr 5150 is classified as a “preamp” pedal or not. But yes this pedal would rock in a jcm800. Also that’s a cool amp you got bro! Is that a 2205 model?
ISH Tell me about it! I just can’t say “No” to Awesome Gear! But for the price of this lil guy its worth the investment. Let me know when you get one!🤘🏼😜
I have one. I run it into the front of a 6505+ combo on the clean channel. It sounds great and eliminates the need to switch channels on the amp which are totally different sounding from each other and hard to match because they have separate volume, gain and EQs. This pedal absolutely kills
Nice work! There are too many demos of this pedal just been played the same Van Halen riffs and I'm not really into that sound. This was very helpful, thank you.
Got a 5150 pedal coming from Sweetwater of course! Best service. Use with my Charvel Demartini snakeskin! Love your delivery buddy. And enjoying a Yeungling Light in your honor-toast!!!
Brett Warnelis Awesome! Congrats! Sweetwater is a great service! I used to use it and Zzounds.com (these guys have a great 3 month no credit payment plan) a lot when I lived in the states. I have a few more ideas for Videos on various unusual ways of using this pedal so look out for that! Enjoy! Let me know how it works out for you! 🤘🏼😊
@@emmanuelleroy2915 Word of warning, you want to really make sure you arent maxing out the head room on the Origin 50 if you want to clean boost for solos.
gain too. If you use distortion pedals like me it helps to let the pedal do the work. I noticed that if I did the amps gain past 12 oclock plus the distortion pedal it distorted awesome, BUT even with my spark boost pedal dimed and in the FX loop, there was no noticable volume jump for soloing.
I tried the Freidman also, but decided on this pedal , they were very similar, I think I would be happy with either, this 5150 just seemed to have a slight edge tone wise, it's also a bit smaller which is good for my board. I do find though that having two channels can be useful, which the Freidman has.
A 2 channel EVH pedal would be RAD! Technically the pedal has two "Voicing" when the "Boost" is engaged or not but that feature is not switchable with a foot switch and would be A LOT Cooler if it was! 🤘🏼😜
@@MadManMusic The boost feature (evh) is supposed to add a bit of compression, so that's cool, but I do have a Slide Rig MK2, that is a very good addition to the board, pretty essential to me. The problem with that little boost knob for me is that that is not nearly enough range between clean 'drive' and distortion. Eg; SRV= CLEAN BOOST, on the EVH, 7 O'clock (Gain) , most everything else Classic Rock dirt would be about 11 to 12 O'clock (Gain). I was only doing Allman Bros , SRV types of blues when I got this EVH, now I'm back to everything Classic Rock , so I actually ordered the Freidman again, lol, cause I can't see bending down to the ground constantly to move the 'Gain' around, then you have to also mess with the 'Output' knob often as welll, when doing so. Also in the middle of a song, like SRV , the clean gain isn't enough when going into a solo. I had actually thought about running two of the EVH's to solve this issue, but we'll see.. :shrugs: ....
Thats true, if its going to the PA. But if you want a cab on stage (which i would prefer) you need to run the pedal into a power amp of sorts and then into a cab.. or both (splitting it to an IR). The combinations are pretty varied! I have some ideas to try some examples in future videos! Maybe we can really find some solid, functional possibilities! Thanks for the comment! 🤘🏼😜
@@MadManMusic the Joyo Cab Box also have power amp sim. I'm thinking in the less things you have to carry to a gig the better. I suppose I'm too old to carry a heavy weight tube amp and a 4x12" cab.
A few of the knobs on mine also stick in these areas. I think its just the components that were used to manufacture these pedals... Not the most high quality feeling at all...
dude... I FULLY agree with your intro! My drummer and I are gearing up for a new Cover Band (Im sure after Nov 4th the world will be open again :P ) I really dont wanna lug amps around anymore. ESPECIALLY 4x12s... and I dont want a wimpy lil Combo.... So Ive been lookin at all these DI possibilities like the HX Stomp but many of those are WAYYY more than what I need... SO... Im thinkin of the EVH OD through a cab sim... and into the board. (maybe like Cabzeus or Friedman?) Your vid shows some great tones! Very appreciated.
jay spray Thanks for the Compliment! I appreciate it! Glad the info was Helpful! I have a Line 6 HX Effects that I use with my 50 watt EVH 5153 and I use an Aux Send Output to send a Cab IR signal to a DI Box thats Under my Pedal Board for the same roundabout reason. And it works Amazingly. Now i still play through a Cab when i use this rig, I just cant get away from a real amp but just not having a Mic to Kick or Knock over is such a Luxury for me. The HX FX would be overkill as a “Cab Sim” but maybe I’ll do another Vid using Just that Feature with the 5150 Overdrive and see how it works! There is also a new Seymour Duncan Powerstage 200 Amp that you can use as a very small power amp (obviously) to just a Cab BUT it also now includes DI Capabilities. I’m trying to get my hands on one to also match that up with the 5150 Overdrive! Sorry for the long response, ya got me all excited about Nerding Out on Gear! 🤘🏼😜
Mad Man Music call me Naive but which band do you play with? ESP used to work with my last band b4 Tony came on board... (I also got out of the big picture for a while) but am gearin up to jump back in. I just got into this “Vlogging” thing. Haven’t even edited all the content yet. Your page is great!
Mad Man Music wait- PRO PAIN??? Saw their first tour when I was a kid! Opened for Testament at the Warfield... I wanna say/ 93? (When Glen Avelias filled in for my old guitar teacher Alex)
Hey! Thanks for the compliment! I think its was just a riff I came up with for this video. I do that for nearly all of my videos! Check em out if you’re diggin the riffage!! 🤘🏼😜
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I collect pedals, and play alien space station pedalboards... but still i'm thinking this is a really good pedal for gigging with a simple pedalboard. IR Loader, Gate, OD/Boost/feedbacker, a doubler, 5150, some wah, a buffer/tuner, Line6 M9, a Zoom Multistomp and a bonus pedal for more wild stuff, that can cover massive board shit.
Haha! Is that your idea of a Simple Pedalboard?! 🙈😆 But you right though, It would work well with that set up! Though I opt for more streamlined rigs these days, secretly I’m still all about big pedal boards too! I’ll post a photo of my old board to the Community Tab! Check it out! 🤘🏼😜
Good Question! Generally in front of the amp. Unless the amp you’re using is very low gain or better yet totally clean. Then you “could” put it in the look and it would act as a “preamp”… but in front of the amp is the best place for it.
This pedal is sick I use it on my original peavey 5150 head I set the output all the way when playing thrash and the gain only at 5 mids at 5 and bass at 4. Treble at 7. It sounds nasty on the original 5150 but the setting the gain past 5 is flat out overkill it’s too much past 5 imo but it’s awesome
I cant even use it in front of a head! Its soo much! I’ve been in the process of trying to build a little micro fly out rig with it. Stay tuned!! There will be a video about it! 🤘🏼😜
@@MadManMusic yeah eddie used a lot of gain haha. A lot more than people think I’ve seen him live back in 2012 lol I thought my skull cavity was gonna explode haha. That’s the key with this pedal back off on the overdrive and gain and turn the amp gain and master volume up. These pedals are great for tube amps this is my favorite overdrive pedal for sure it’s great for drop c chugging riffs lol
@@MadManMusic for sure it depends on your amp and pickup and all that. its really a preference thing but for metal there’s not a better overdrive pedal out there. I only scoop my amps and turn up the midrange and bottom end if I’m playing in drop c lol. But I’m playing hard rock like Ratt scorpions dokken etc I turn down the midrang and lows alot and turn the highs and prescence up. warren demartini and evh those guys all used the lower gauge strings too like the 9-42
New sub, thanks for the content. I'm not a fan of the noise gate, I usually turn it off. Should I try to use it more? What setting would you suggest? I'm thinking about returning it, but don't want to.....
Awesome! Welcome! If you’re playing Rock or Metal a Noise Gate is Necessary to Clean Up your signal. Otherwise you’ll have Feedback running rampant. But if you’re playing clean or with moderate amounts of overdrive, you don’t necessarily need a gate. I always recommend a gate Clear or Overdriven because it just cuts out all the unnecessary sound and noise from your playing giving you a much more polished sound. I dont recommend selling it, put it first in your signal chain (So Guitar->Tuner-> Noise Gate->Amp), set the Decay (if it allows you to adjust it) at Minimum or slightly above, set the Threshold where it sounds natural without choking out your signal too quickly and thats it! Try it like this and let me know how it works for you! 🤘🏼😜
@@MadManMusic awesome, thank you. I prob need to move in my chain. I have tuner-comp-od-od-mxr5150. A small testing rig. I was kinda of lazy when I got it and slapped it at the end just wanting to test it out. Thanks for the advice, gonna do that tonight. Thanks again and I'm gonna check out your other videos
Dude I apologize, I totally miss read the context or your first comment. You meant the built in gate on the 5150 OverDrive.. 🤦🏻♂️ Yeah that gate isn’t as functional as a stand alone gate. In this case your signal chain is fine. I just wouldn’t suggest using the built in gate over having a stand alone gate in the position that I suggested. That would also apply here if you have one. Sorry for the confusion. 🤘🏼😜
Tuner, 5150 OD, MXR 10 band, Crate Power Block, or Marshall Origin 50’s FX return. ISO cab with Emminence EM-12,(EV style), or a Stereo Crate cab, the Cannibal Corpse cab,(Emminence and Celestion blend). That is how it runs best with my stuff. I have to say, the Zoom 510 Dual Power Driver is a sleeper capable of some extreme brutality, for 30-60$ you can’t afford to pass one by. Another is the Boss OD-20, the HM-2 mode is worth the money and it really changes the sound when you turn the knobs unlike the original. Four presets too.100$ or 1000$+ for a fancy silk screened clone with skulls on it and way too many knobs.🤔😂😂😂
This pedal is Extreme. It is capable of adding lots of extra gain, but in truth I’m not sure about using it as an occasional Boost.. say for a lead. I imagine if you keep the settings fairly reasonable it will work fine! However, I still believe this pedal is geared more towards people that want the EVH type sound when they don’t already play an EVH. But maybe I’ll experiment a bit! Keep an eye out for that! 🤘🏼😜
I agree. I think MXR wanted to make a “Preamp” Pedal to combat the 5153 Preamp Clone Pedals out there, Like the Mooer 005 Brown Sound / Fifty-Fifty Three. 🤘🏼😜
Alexander Barnes ESP LTD EC407! I’ve been touring with this guitar for 3 years and it is a TANK! Upgraded the Tuning Machines, the Bridge and (Eventually) the Nut. 🤘🏼😊
Assuming because it’s EVH, could it give me a similar tone to a peavey 6505 mh? I have a peavey stack and trying to find a light weight alternative with a Blackstar 1x12.
Well it doesn't have Speaker Emulation or a Power Amp so it really won't save you from needed those things... The MH would be the better option. Unless the Blackstar is an actual Amp. Then I would say using this pedal into the Effects Loop (if it has one) would be a viable option... But in that case I'd suggest something that would get you more options like the new Hotone Ampero Mini. I recently posted a Short about it ➡️ czcams.com/users/shorts2Nl11CKbYBE?feature=share I hope that helps! 🤘🏼😜
@@MadManMusic I have a peavey 6505 mh with a 2x12 cab. Really happy with it, so much so that I want to find a light weight alternative that’s easier to carry around. I have a Blackstar debut 50r which is a 1x12 combo amp and want to utilize a pedal to get me to a close peavey 6505/5150 tone. Could the EVH pull this off?
It could, sure. Like I mentioned, if your Blackstar has an FX Loop, the EVH would work well there. Just bypass the Blackstar’s Preamp all together. 🤘🏼😜
Yes. If you have other pedals you’ll want to have them in the correct positions either before or after the EVH. Like a Wah would be before and a Reverb and/or Delay after it. You basically just using the Blackstars Power Amp and bypassing it’s Preamp. If you use this pedal before the amps Preamp (going from the EVH to the Blackstars regular Input) the Preamp will drastically change the tone of the EVH. The same will happen whenever you put an EQ behind an Overdrive or Distortion. So the cleanest signal would be Guitar ➡️ EVH ➡️ FX Loop “Return” on the Blackstar. I hope thats making sense. Let me know if still have questions. I’m happy to help! 🤘🏼😜
Dee Miller Hey Thanks for the Question! I dont think there is a whole lot that is the same between these two amps. In my opinion the EVH far exceeds the tonal quality and usefulness of any of the Peavey variants. But I do believe you can make them sound similar. The EVH (across both the Blue and Red Channels) tends to have a warmer and smoother sound. Whereas the 5150’s and 6505’s from Peavey Tend to be a bit more “Shrilly” to me. Lots of Unpleasant High End and Presence and little to no Useable midrange. Which I guess was the point at the time. Achieving the “Scooped” sound with tons of Gain. Which it does very well. But I guess the short answer is, I feel like the EVH overall has a more pleasant sound and is a more “Musical” amp. So if that’s what you’re going for, EVH All Day! 🤘🏼😊
Dee Miller Well the EVH 5150 III LBX is what I’m using in this video along side the MXR EVH Overdrive. The LBX sounds Awesome and can easily push a 4x12. Id say if you plan on upgrading to a larger Speaker Cab Configuration go with the LBX. But if you’re planning on just jamming at home the Combo is nice and easy.
@@MadManMusic I actually want to gig with the combo (sick of lugging around a stack). I figure they just mic the speaker anyways so it should be efficient, right? Am I missing anything?
Dalton Clements Depends on Where you’re Playing and What Sort of PA and Monitor System they have. If the venue has powerful enough Floor Monitors, then a Combo would be fine. But if not, you wont be able to hear yourself over the drums.
@@MadManMusic Thank you for this review. I purchased it last year after L Riker and your review. I use a Bogner Uberschall pedal in front of it. EQ before and after. So many Tone/Sounds that I have to record the settings.
That sounds super interesting! I’d love to try that combo! I havent needed to use mine in a while but i still cant part ways with it. Its just to useful in a pinch. I’ve joined the Kemper Klub so I’ll be focusing on that in future videos. But still nothing beats an ild fashioned amp rig! Thanks again for watching! Glad it was helpful! 🤘🏼😜
Nooo if it has an ir loader it would be like the apex preamp horizon misha mansoor pedal...and its sucks, it better using with other pedal thats function as an ir loader
I have only tried the Precision Drive from the Horizon Devices... Devices. And truthfully I wasn't really impressed with it. However I would love to get my hands on one again and make a comparison now. However if the 5150 Overdrive had the ability to load whatever Cab IR you want onto it with an XLR out I think it would work really well as something to "get you through" a light out gig or something of the sort. Because whats the difference if the IR is just on another pedal... Thats another pedal to power, another cable in the chain, etc etc. If the IR is something "Pre-Loaded" from the manufacturer I can definitely agree that the result could be hit or miss. Like certain SansAmp pedals and maybe this Apex Pre (but not sure). But if you could load your own IR's... well... than it'd just be your own dang fault if it sounds bad! lol Thanks for the comment! I'll check out this Apex pedal to determine the True Suckiness of it! \m/(-,-)\m/
@@MadManMusic ooo i get what u mean, its a cabsim built like a sansamp, or like the strymon bigsky cab filter, or like the amt legend amp f1 flick and goes to xlr and only need 1 pedal...yeah thats great But if it is like built in cabsim like the apex pre...its totally different, it sucks big time. Its not in the right frequency at all
@@fedboy21 It could/would be cool for sure. In theory. If it was customizable in some way to give the user their own flexibility. But again, in my opinion, it wouldn’t replace a real amp (or comparable modeler). It’d just be cool for the one off gig that you had to travel super light for. Thanks again! 🤘🏼😊
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Been wanting this for 4 years and finally have one on the way for my birthday this week.
Awesome! Congrats! Enjoy! And Happy Birthday!!
Let us know what you think of it!
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Same, man, I ordered mine the other day. 🤘
A lot of people seem to think it's awful...not sure why. This'll replace my rat pedal for my heavy metal gigs.
I think people expect it to sound like the full blown amp.. which in many ways it does. But its really all in how you use it.
Just like you mentioned, it works best when you add it to a rig that otherwise didnt have that heavy gain sound.
I still sort of wish they didnt name it an “Overdrive” because its a bit misleading.. its a distortion pedal.
Thanks for the comment! Enjoy!
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@@MadManMusic I plan on using it for di out stuff and using backline amps that aren't good for high gain.
That’s basically what I planned to use it for also. But I want to get the newer Seymour Duncan Power Stage power amp. This way all I would need is a Cab.
Let us know how it works out for you!
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I own one of these pedals and an EVH 5150iiis EL34 100 Watt head. While MXR claims this pedal is supposed to be the blue channel, i would say its actually a bit closer to the red channel of the amp. Key word being "closer". If you have an EL34 amp, this pedal can turn your rig into a very near clone of an EVH 5150. I'm sure it would do the same for any tube amp but i can only speak for my EL34. I also do highly recommend this pedal but i do also highly recommend the actual amp.
I haven’t had the chance to rock the EL34 models. I considered it when I purchased my last 50 watt but opted for something I was already used. But i have heard great things about those models and I l’m definitely pick one up eventually. Thanks for sharing what you’re Rockin dude! Stay healthy and safe! \m/
Okay, so say I had an old '89 JCM800 50 watt lead with EL34's in it. Could I get a nice brown sound out of that if I plugged in my Jackson with its stock high output pickups?
@@bretttrommler756 I don’t see why not. I would try using the fx loop first. So your signal would be guitar>5150>fx loop return. I’m not sure if the mxr 5150 is classified as a “preamp” pedal or not. But yes this pedal would rock in a jcm800. Also that’s a cool amp you got bro! Is that a 2205 model?
for those that cant afford a EVH AMP ..... Now you can, sorta . This pedal is like a mini tiny Amp with everything you need. Incredible pedal
I almost bought one a while back, went with the Diezel VH-4 instead.. which I’m happy with, but I still keep wanting more 😂 Who doesn’t? Toys..
ISH Tell me about it!
I just can’t say “No” to Awesome Gear!
But for the price of this lil guy its worth the investment. Let me know when you get one!🤘🏼😜
Yea this video has sold me! this is exactly what i've been looking for man you have no clue how relieved I am
Awesome!! Im glad the vid was helpful! Let us know how you like the pedal when you get it!
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I have one. I run it into the front of a 6505+ combo on the clean channel. It sounds great and eliminates the need to switch channels on the amp which are totally different sounding from each other and hard to match because they have separate volume, gain and EQs. This pedal absolutely kills
Nice work! There are too many demos of this pedal just been played the same Van Halen riffs and I'm not really into that sound. This was very helpful, thank you.
Matias Tarkkala You are very Welcome!
Thanks for watching!!
I agree. Just play your own riffs or just fuck around with a riff on the spot. Not everyone wants to play actual VH songs.
Been wanting one for a long time. You’re video was the reason I ordered one. You actually set it up as a preamp as I will be doing. Awesome demo!
Awesome! Enjoy it!
Let us know how it works out for you!
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I just ordered one from Reverb. It will be here in less than a week. I can't wait! Thanks for the info...
Awesome! I hope you enjoy it! 🤘🏼😜
Got a 5150 pedal coming from Sweetwater of course! Best service. Use with my Charvel Demartini snakeskin! Love your delivery buddy. And enjoying a Yeungling Light in your honor-toast!!!
Brett Warnelis Awesome! Congrats! Sweetwater is a great service! I used to use it and Zzounds.com (these guys have a great 3 month no credit payment plan) a lot when I lived in the states.
I have a few more ideas for Videos on various unusual ways of using this pedal so look out for that!
Enjoy! Let me know how it works out for you! 🤘🏼😊
Thanks a ton for sharing that, man! That was the exact info I was looking for! Also, killer guitar playing!
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it and it was helpful!! 🤘🏼😜
Running this thing into the front of my Marshall Origin 50. CHONKY METAL GOODNESS.
Niiice! 💪🏼
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Oh thank God I’m planning on purchasing that same amp, I thought this pedal would need a metal head amp
@@emmanuelleroy2915 Word of warning, you want to really make sure you arent maxing out the head room on the Origin 50 if you want to clean boost for solos.
@@nathaniel_pardue when u say headroom u mean the volume?
gain too. If you use distortion pedals like me it helps to let the pedal do the work. I noticed that if I did the amps gain past 12 oclock plus the distortion pedal it distorted awesome, BUT even with my spark boost pedal dimed and in the FX loop, there was no noticable volume jump for soloing.
Been using one of these into the front of a Quilter Overdrive 200, and its devastating. Mix in some slight delay and you're set.
A lil delay does make things tasty!
Thanks for sharing your set up!!
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Been thinking about this very setup myself
I tried the Freidman also, but decided
on this pedal , they were very similar,
I think I would be happy with either,
this 5150 just seemed to have a slight
edge tone wise, it's also a bit smaller
which is good for my board. I do
find though that having two channels
can be useful, which the Freidman has.
A 2 channel EVH pedal would be RAD!
Technically the pedal has two "Voicing" when the "Boost" is engaged or not but that feature is not switchable with a foot switch and would be A LOT Cooler if it was!
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@@MadManMusic The boost feature
(evh) is supposed to add a bit of
compression, so that's cool, but I
do have a Slide Rig MK2, that is
a very good addition to the board,
pretty essential to me. The problem
with that little boost knob for me
is that that is not nearly enough
range between clean 'drive' and
distortion. Eg; SRV= CLEAN BOOST,
on the EVH, 7 O'clock (Gain)
, most everything
else Classic Rock dirt would be
about 11 to 12 O'clock (Gain).
I was only doing Allman Bros ,
SRV types of blues when I got
this EVH, now I'm back to everything
Classic Rock , so I actually ordered
the Freidman again, lol, cause I can't
see bending down to the ground
constantly to move the 'Gain' around,
then you have to also mess with the
'Output' knob often as welll, when
doing so. Also in the middle of a
song, like SRV , the clean gain isn't
enough when going into a solo.
I had actually thought about running
two of the EVH's to solve this issue,
but we'll see.. :shrugs: ....
I see. Yeah I agree with you, it would be nice to not have to bend down to hit that boost.
Try the Friedman and let us know how it works out!
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@@MadManMusic Will do, should be
just a couple days.
You can have that IR loader with XLR output with the Joyo Cab Box. And there you go. To pedals in you back bag and no need an amp and cab.
Thats true, if its going to the PA. But if you want a cab on stage (which i would prefer) you need to run the pedal into a power amp of sorts and then into a cab.. or both (splitting it to an IR).
The combinations are pretty varied!
I have some ideas to try some examples in future videos! Maybe we can really find some solid, functional possibilities!
Thanks for the comment! 🤘🏼😜
@@MadManMusic the Joyo Cab Box also have power amp sim. I'm thinking in the less things you have to carry to a gig the better. I suppose I'm too old to carry a heavy weight tube amp and a 4x12" cab.
@@ChiAeNima I feel ya there! I‘ll definitely have to try to get my hands on one of these to try it out! 🤘🏼😊
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FrostyGuitar Thanks!
My output knob sticks
at 9 o'clock and 2 o'clock,
not sure why, I've talked to
others that have the same issue
the manual does not address this.
A few of the knobs on mine also stick in these areas. I think its just the components that were used to manufacture these pedals...
Not the most high quality feeling at all...
dude... I FULLY agree with your intro! My drummer and I are gearing up for a new Cover Band (Im sure after Nov 4th the world will be open again :P ) I really dont wanna lug amps around anymore. ESPECIALLY 4x12s... and I dont want a wimpy lil Combo.... So Ive been lookin at all these DI possibilities like the HX Stomp but many of those are WAYYY more than what I need... SO... Im thinkin of the EVH OD through a cab sim... and into the board. (maybe like Cabzeus or Friedman?) Your vid shows some great tones! Very appreciated.
jay spray Thanks for the Compliment! I appreciate it! Glad the info was Helpful!
I have a Line 6 HX Effects that I use with my 50 watt EVH 5153 and I use an Aux Send Output to send a Cab IR signal to a DI Box thats Under my Pedal Board for the same roundabout reason. And it works Amazingly. Now i still play through a Cab when i use this rig, I just cant get away from a real amp but just not having a Mic to Kick or Knock over is such a Luxury for me. The HX FX would be overkill as a “Cab Sim” but maybe I’ll do another Vid using Just that Feature with the 5150 Overdrive and see how it works!
There is also a new Seymour Duncan Powerstage 200 Amp that you can use as a very small power amp (obviously) to just a Cab BUT it also now includes DI Capabilities. I’m trying to get my hands on one to also match that up with the 5150 Overdrive!
Sorry for the long response, ya got me all excited about Nerding Out on Gear!
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Mad Man Music Luvv My EVH heads and cabs! No long wind there... WRITE AWAY! 😝
jay spray Me too. EVH is Life! 🤘🏼😊
Mad Man Music call me Naive but which band do you play with? ESP used to work with my last band b4 Tony came on board... (I also got out of the big picture for a while) but am gearin up to jump back in. I just got into this “Vlogging” thing. Haven’t even edited all the content yet. Your page is great!
Mad Man Music wait- PRO PAIN??? Saw their first tour when I was a kid! Opened for Testament at the Warfield... I wanna say/ 93? (When Glen Avelias filled in for my old guitar teacher Alex)
Great demo and sick playing, thank you for this! What riff is that if you don’t mind me asking?
Hey! Thanks for the compliment!
I think its was just a riff I came up with for this video.
I do that for nearly all of my videos! Check em out if you’re diggin the riffage!!
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It is an overdrive. It’s Edwards belief on what an overdrive should sound like ;)
Long live the king! 👑 🤘🏼😭
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I collect pedals, and play alien space station pedalboards... but still i'm thinking this is a really good pedal for gigging with a simple pedalboard. IR Loader, Gate, OD/Boost/feedbacker, a doubler, 5150, some wah, a buffer/tuner, Line6 M9, a Zoom Multistomp and a bonus pedal for more wild stuff, that can cover massive board shit.
Haha! Is that your idea of a Simple Pedalboard?! 🙈😆
But you right though, It would work well with that set up!
Though I opt for more streamlined rigs these days, secretly I’m still all about big pedal boards too! I’ll post a photo of my old board to the Community Tab! Check it out!
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hahaha youre right, not a simple board, i'm workin on it... but is more simple than collect eternally@@MadManMusic I will see the photos, thank you!
Should this pedal go in the fx loop? Or in front of the amp?
Good Question!
Generally in front of the amp.
Unless the amp you’re using is very low gain or better yet totally clean. Then you “could” put it in the look and it would act as a “preamp”… but in front of the amp is the best place for it.
Thank you!
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This pedal is sick I use it on my original peavey 5150 head I set the output all the way when playing thrash and the gain only at 5 mids at 5 and bass at 4. Treble at 7. It sounds nasty on the original 5150 but the setting the gain past 5 is flat out overkill it’s too much past 5 imo but it’s awesome
I cant even use it in front of a head! Its soo much! I’ve been in the process of trying to build a little micro fly out rig with it. Stay tuned!! There will be a video about it!
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@@MadManMusic yeah eddie used a lot of gain haha. A lot more than people think I’ve seen him live back in 2012 lol I thought my skull cavity was gonna explode haha. That’s the key with this pedal back off on the overdrive and gain and turn the amp gain and master volume up. These pedals are great for tube amps this is my favorite overdrive pedal for sure it’s great for drop c chugging riffs lol
Awesome!! Well thanks for the tips! I’ll give it a try and hopefully others will too!
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@@MadManMusic for sure it depends on your amp and pickup and all that. its really a preference thing but for metal there’s not a better overdrive pedal out there. I only scoop my amps and turn up the midrange and bottom end if I’m playing in drop c lol. But I’m playing hard rock like Ratt scorpions dokken etc I turn down the midrang and lows alot and turn the highs and prescence up. warren demartini and evh those guys all used the lower gauge strings too like the 9-42
New sub, thanks for the content. I'm not a fan of the noise gate, I usually turn it off. Should I try to use it more? What setting would you suggest? I'm thinking about returning it, but don't want to.....
Awesome! Welcome!
If you’re playing Rock or Metal a Noise Gate is Necessary to Clean Up your signal. Otherwise you’ll have Feedback running rampant. But if you’re playing clean or with moderate amounts of overdrive, you don’t necessarily need a gate.
I always recommend a gate Clear or Overdriven because it just cuts out all the unnecessary sound and noise from your playing giving you a much more polished sound.
I dont recommend selling it, put it first in your signal chain (So Guitar->Tuner-> Noise Gate->Amp), set the Decay (if it allows you to adjust it) at Minimum or slightly above, set the Threshold where it sounds natural without choking out your signal too quickly and thats it!
Try it like this and let me know how it works for you!
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@@MadManMusic awesome, thank you. I prob need to move in my chain. I have tuner-comp-od-od-mxr5150. A small testing rig. I was kinda of lazy when I got it and slapped it at the end just wanting to test it out. Thanks for the advice, gonna do that tonight. Thanks again and I'm gonna check out your other videos
Dude I apologize, I totally miss read the context or your first comment. You meant the built in gate on the 5150 OverDrive.. 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah that gate isn’t as functional as a stand alone gate.
In this case your signal chain is fine. I just wouldn’t suggest using the built in gate over having a stand alone gate in the position that I suggested. That would also apply here if you have one.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Tuner, 5150 OD, MXR 10 band, Crate Power Block, or Marshall Origin 50’s FX return. ISO cab with Emminence EM-12,(EV style), or a Stereo Crate cab, the Cannibal Corpse cab,(Emminence and Celestion blend). That is how it runs best with my stuff. I have to say, the Zoom 510 Dual Power Driver is a sleeper capable of some extreme brutality, for 30-60$ you can’t afford to pass one by. Another is the Boss OD-20, the HM-2 mode is worth the money and it really changes the sound when you turn the knobs unlike the original. Four presets too.100$ or 1000$+ for a fancy silk screened clone with skulls on it and way too many knobs.🤔😂😂😂
Nice! Thanks for the info. I'll see if I can get my hands on this Zoom and maybe we'll do a comparison! 🤘🏼😜
so this means I can use this with Irs from my two notes wall of sound????
YUP! Then run it out to something Direct like a PA or Audio Interface. Thanks for the Question!
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And Costa Quanta?
Wo Edward Van Halen draufsteht ist auch Edward Van Halen drin
Would this pedal be good boosting the blue channel on an EVH 5150 III 50w EL34 Head?
This pedal is Extreme. It is capable of adding lots of extra gain, but in truth I’m not sure about using it as an occasional Boost.. say for a lead. I imagine if you keep the settings fairly reasonable it will work fine! However, I still believe this pedal is geared more towards people that want the EVH type sound when they don’t already play an EVH.
But maybe I’ll experiment a bit! Keep an eye out for that!
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*Yo dogg, i heard u like 5150s so i put a 5150 in your 5150 so u can 5150 while u 5150*
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i love mine
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Distortion pedal. Eddie would never use it, in the studio or live. YJM-308 Black Overdrive Pedal...
I agree. I think MXR wanted to make a “Preamp” Pedal to combat the 5153 Preamp Clone Pedals out there, Like the Mooer 005 Brown Sound / Fifty-Fifty Three.
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I want that guitar!
Alexander Barnes ESP LTD EC407!
I’ve been touring with this guitar for 3 years and it is a TANK!
Upgraded the Tuning Machines, the Bridge and (Eventually) the Nut.
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@@MadManMusic i have the 6 strinh
Alexander Barnes Then you Know its a Tank! 🤘🏼😜
Assuming because it’s EVH, could it give me a similar tone to a peavey 6505 mh? I have a peavey stack and trying to find a light weight alternative with a Blackstar 1x12.
Well it doesn't have Speaker Emulation or a Power Amp so it really won't save you from needed those things... The MH would be the better option.
Unless the Blackstar is an actual Amp. Then I would say using this pedal into the Effects Loop (if it has one) would be a viable option...
But in that case I'd suggest something that would get you more options like the new Hotone Ampero Mini.
I recently posted a Short about it ➡️ czcams.com/users/shorts2Nl11CKbYBE?feature=share
I hope that helps!
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@@MadManMusic I have a peavey 6505 mh with a 2x12 cab. Really happy with it, so much so that I want to find a light weight alternative that’s easier to carry around. I have a Blackstar debut 50r which is a 1x12 combo amp and want to utilize a pedal to get me to a close peavey 6505/5150 tone. Could the EVH pull this off?
It could, sure. Like I mentioned, if your Blackstar has an FX Loop, the EVH would work well there. Just bypass the Blackstar’s Preamp all together.
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@@MadManMusic do you mean effects loop to the output of the EVH pedal, and the input of the EVH pedal into the guitar’s audio Jack?
Yes. If you have other pedals you’ll want to have them in the correct positions either before or after the EVH. Like a Wah would be before and a Reverb and/or Delay after it.
You basically just using the Blackstars Power Amp and bypassing it’s Preamp.
If you use this pedal before the amps Preamp (going from the EVH to the Blackstars regular Input) the Preamp will drastically change the tone of the EVH.
The same will happen whenever you put an EQ behind an Overdrive or Distortion.
So the cleanest signal would be Guitar ➡️ EVH ➡️ FX Loop “Return” on the Blackstar.
I hope thats making sense. Let me know if still have questions. I’m happy to help!
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Yo! What are your thoughts on the 6505plus crunch channel vs the 5150s blue channel? They sound the same?
Dee Miller Hey Thanks for the Question!
I dont think there is a whole lot that is the same between these two amps. In my opinion the EVH far exceeds the tonal quality and usefulness of any of the Peavey variants.
But I do believe you can make them sound similar.
The EVH (across both the Blue and Red Channels) tends to have a warmer and smoother sound. Whereas the 5150’s and 6505’s from Peavey Tend to be a bit more “Shrilly” to me. Lots of Unpleasant High End and Presence and little to no Useable midrange. Which I guess was the point at the time. Achieving the “Scooped” sound with tons of Gain. Which it does very well.
But I guess the short answer is, I feel like the EVH overall has a more pleasant sound and is a more “Musical” amp.
So if that’s what you’re going for, EVH All Day!
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What about the evh 5105 iii mh vs the combo version. I love that tone though really dislike stacks. Any big differences tone wise?
Dee Miller Well the EVH 5150 III LBX is what I’m using in this video along side the MXR EVH Overdrive.
The LBX sounds Awesome and can easily push a 4x12.
Id say if you plan on upgrading to a larger Speaker Cab Configuration go with the LBX.
But if you’re planning on just jamming at home the Combo is nice and easy.
@@MadManMusic I actually want to gig with the combo (sick of lugging around a stack). I figure they just mic the speaker anyways so it should be efficient, right? Am I missing anything?
Dalton Clements Depends on Where you’re Playing and What Sort of PA and Monitor System they have.
If the venue has powerful enough Floor Monitors, then a Combo would be fine.
But if not, you wont be able to hear yourself over the drums.
Almost bought one, but I’ve already spent so much money this year 😞
I know the feeling dude... 🤘🏼😕
Sounds to distorted. Unlike the cmatmods brownie distortion
It has TONS of Gain.... and to think... It's an Overdrive Pedal... Its supposed to be used in front of EVEN MORE GAIN!!! 🤘🏼🤯
This pedal and EQ you can command about any sound in your head.
Trying to justify a AMPTWEAKER, CERES, VESTA. Cannot with pre and post EQ.
Its true! Its a useful pedal for sure! 🤘🏼😜
@@MadManMusic Thank you for this review. I purchased it last year after L Riker and your review. I use a Bogner Uberschall pedal in front of it. EQ before and after. So many Tone/Sounds that I have to record the settings.
That sounds super interesting! I’d love to try that combo!
I havent needed to use mine in a while but i still cant part ways with it. Its just to useful in a pinch.
I’ve joined the Kemper Klub so I’ll be focusing on that in future videos. But still nothing beats an ild fashioned amp rig!
Thanks again for watching! Glad it was helpful!
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Nooo if it has an ir loader it would be like the apex preamp horizon misha mansoor pedal...and its sucks, it better using with other pedal thats function as an ir loader
I have only tried the Precision Drive from the Horizon Devices... Devices. And truthfully I wasn't really impressed with it. However I would love to get my hands on one again and make a comparison now.
However if the 5150 Overdrive had the ability to load whatever Cab IR you want onto it with an XLR out I think it would work really well as something to "get you through" a light out gig or something of the sort. Because whats the difference if the IR is just on another pedal... Thats another pedal to power, another cable in the chain, etc etc.
If the IR is something "Pre-Loaded" from the manufacturer I can definitely agree that the result could be hit or miss. Like certain SansAmp pedals and maybe this Apex Pre (but not sure). But if you could load your own IR's... well... than it'd just be your own dang fault if it sounds bad! lol
Thanks for the comment! I'll check out this Apex pedal to determine the True Suckiness of it!
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@@MadManMusic ooo i get what u mean, its a cabsim built like a sansamp, or like the strymon bigsky cab filter, or like the amt legend amp f1 flick and goes to xlr and only need 1 pedal...yeah thats great
But if it is like built in cabsim like the apex pre...its totally different, it sucks big time. Its not in the right frequency at all
@@fedboy21 It could/would be cool for sure. In theory. If it was customizable in some way to give the user their own flexibility. But again, in my opinion, it wouldn’t replace a real amp (or comparable modeler). It’d just be cool for the one off gig that you had to travel super light for.
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Rock the neighbours.....it sounds evil man
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How bad it is too expensive $$$
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New, yes.. they are a bit expensive.. but you can find them Secondhand for around 120 bucks. 🤘🏼😜
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