WORST OVERDRIVE? EVH 5150!!
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- The other day, my new EVH 5150 Overdrive pedal arrived and after running it through my Mooer 20W Tube Engine as a preamp, I realized it was awful! Today, it was the opposite! Thanks to everyone who shared their settings with me!
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don’t plug it into a distortion channel. i always use it into the clean channel.
Yeah, I ran it into the clean of my MT15 and it's so much better than using it like a preamp. :) Thanks brother! Next up is seeing how it sounds as an clean most only.
This should be common sense no? Lol
If its good enough for Tim Pierce it's good enough for me
This pedal is great . Def not the worst by any stretch
Dude, that sounded ridiculously great in front of the Marshall.
This is one of the best pedals I have. I run through my fender Princeton clean channel with the treble on 1. It takes some configuring to get that sweet spot but once you do it’s a great and furious pedal. I get good midrange tone out of it as well.
The guy is a Dork,
I use the 5150 overdrive in front of a silverface Fender Bassman 135 head which is clean as hell and fat sounding and it fkn slays.
I appreciate the point of view, yet I've used the pedal with excellent results. Tone is so subjective and hearing all points of view are helpful. THX !!
There's a second video where I ran it through the front of a clean channel and it's a beast!!!! Love the EVH 5150 pedal!
I think this pedal is great. Used to run one through my Maz 38 and it sounded huge. Built in noise gate was really convenient too.
Oh shit, I ran this pedal incorrectly in this video! Haha! There's another episode where I ran it through the dirty channel and it's a BEAST! I love this EVH!!
This makes me feel much better, as I’d literally just ordered one and then seen your video calling it trash, I’m excited to try it out and find what works best now!
@Jamie Best I’ve got it for my dark terror, it doesn’t work amazing with that amp due to it already being pretty gritty, but if you get a good clean tone first (no clean channel so takes some dialling in on the amp) then it sounds great, I’m sure it’ll work mint with the Marshall
Whaaaat???? Bro, I use mine in front of a clean peavey solid state and it’s beast! I sold my Laney Ironheart because I fell in love with the sound lol. Aye, tones subjective af tho, man. I use the eq of the amp to get a little extra out of it.
I use mine on a a RMS amplifier with clean channel
I missed this. I used it in another episode through the clean channel of my EVH and it's crazy great!! Love this pedal!
Update… I use it thru the clean channel of a Randall RG1503 now. The gain knob on the Randall really does something brutal in conjunction with the EVH. I don’t set it past 1 O’clock because it gets Swedish death metaly, but oooohhhh the brutality 😎
It’s amazing what you have to go through sometimes to make a pedal sound good. Lol. Some of the most legendary pedals became legendary by everyone using them in a way they were never intended to be used. Haha.
You actually *don't* have to do anything with this pedal to make it sound good. That's the point of this video. Keep in mind that we're watching a metal guitarist as well. That's a long way on the left side of the curve of both taste AND reliability of perception. Their ideal tones and applications make 99/100 people dislike music and teenagers.
Was wondering where all the hate was coming from. I use it in front of a Hiwatt and it sounds great. Heard it used as a preamp in demos before, and yeah, it sounds way too woofy for that application. Good on you for at least making it work out!
Yeah man, through the clean channel is key. They promote it as a preamp as well but yikes! Like you said, it's woofy and all low end. Lol. :) Thanks for leaving a comment, bro!
Take his advise with a grain of salt, he’s missed miserably in the past ….real bad…but each to his own ..
I knew by the title of the video that it was gonna be something along the lines of it being a distortion pedal instead! Nice.
Not sure why they call it an Overdrive pedal, it's literally a good distortion pedal through a clean amp.
There's a couple of OD's I've used that are similar to the EVH in that they're clearly more of an 'amp channel in a box' than an OD. Fender Santa Ana and Friedman BE-OD spring to mind. It's misleading
I got this one dal years ago and ran it thru the clean channels on my Bogner Shiva. Amazing pedals. Sounds like a tube amp. Not sure what you did wrong the first time?
he did a video, is what he did wrong. lol
HA HA! I TOLD YA SO! SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU TO USE IT ON THE CLEAN CHANNEL. MY BAD BRO. LUV YA BRUDUH!!! THANX FOR THE SHOUT OUT. RESPECT
It actually sounds great through a clean amp, where you can use the amp's EQ to get it going.
@@louistorres dude I'm glad you made that discovery. I was genuinely bummed when you said you hated it lol...
I run it in front of a 6505+ combo on the clean channel.. its fuckin nasty. I LOVE it.. i like playing clean and this configuration eliminates the need for the channel footswitch for the amp which is difficult to match the channels because they have seperate gain and EQ..
Eddie created that tone for the style of playing that he did 🤷♂️
@@deltafox8795 There's a part 2 to this. It's actually a REALLY great pedal for heavier tones.
@@louistorres all i know is that i want one. also the alleged Randy Rhoads distortion plus coming out that replicates Randy’s tone and distortion by MxR
just ordered one and its going to go thru a Laney GH100TI rig... this is going to be interesting!
You're going to love it, just run it through the front.
I don’t like that pedal either. To my ears it sounds bland, scooped, fizzy. Couldn’t get rid of it fast enough
Good point. Other overdrive pedals for ex: Rev G3, Strymon, origin effects etc. DO claim they can b used as preamps hence the confusion. Sounds great! Tfs.
It's NOT an overdrive, and it doesn't sound like EVH. But, it slays when you used it in a clean amp (if you're into that). Ditch the Hot Mod, and I bet it would sound even better through the 2204. Great demos!
I'll pull out the HM2 and check how it sounds with just the one 12AX7 in there. Thanks Andy! You're the man and thanks for helping! :)
Ran mine first off into a modeled Fender Black Face and it was Van Halen I out of the gate.
There's a part two to this, it's my Mea Culpa video; I love this EVH pedal now. I ran it as a preamp when in fact, it sounds like a monster through the clean channel of an amp.
Just got this pedal if i run it with fx loop it sucked tone wise but clean channel running in front of the amp and it sound really good 9r
Yes! I made a second video where I run it through the front of my clean channel and it's so much better!
Man I am so glad you were honest about this thing being over saturated on the low end. I’ve seen dozens of reviews on this thing and ALL of them sound ridiculously muddy and bottomed out… I’m only at the 6:13 point but this will be interesting for sure! I also see everyone running this as a pure OD / Distortion effect… not many running it in the effect loop… but by all accounts it sure seems set up to be a pre-amp… with the noise gate and OD / Distortion as a channel almost
You were watching the wrong demos if you think this pedal is muddy. it's too bright, if anything
@@vicferrari89 Wait a minute. You're talking sh/t to ME in my HOUSE and now you're chit chatting with others, thinking I'm not going to throw you out? Hahaha! GTFOH! Hahaha!
When used as a preamp it sounds EXACTLY like the high-gain channel of the 5150 Combo 2x12, which is very buzzing, very low-end, and absurdly compressed (and which nobody likes). however, when an eq is put in the loop of the combo the preamp becomes amazing and might be the best high-gain sound around except for things like the SLO100
Oh no, was that amp fizzy too? That's all I hear is the overly compressed sound
I've used that pedal on my board forever. I have no problem with it.
Super informative, the name misleads you into thinking it goes after the 5150 pre section. Thanks for saving my money my man
I use this pedal with two notes cab-m with loaded IR and sounds awesome
That's how I use it...straight into the cab m+...Sounds absolutely killer!!!
Own one. Love it. I put it BEFORE my Blackstar Dept 10. Dual Drive. This pedal is all about where you place it relative to what your rig is. It’s different for everyone.
Hey Jack! I made another video where I ran it through the clean channel and holy cow! It's a beast!!! Yes, it's such a great overdrive and agree that using it as a preamp doesn't work but as an overdrive? It's amazing!
it has compression. noise gate. i have 5150 amp. i like the pedal better, chan one. clean add dig- delay, reverb now your lead tone in brown sound.
This goof has everything but a record deal.
But I can afford it all and then some. You should see the Mercedes S550 I'm thinking of buying. Hahaha! Go play guitar and cover that mortgage with all the loot you generate from those shows. You're a clown! You and your hobby!
PLEASE explain the Plaid Marshall head! How?! It’s awesome.
Actually bought it that way. I've even talked to the guy who installed it. I was looking for a Marshall and that JCM 2000 was available for $400 in my area. Had to buy it for that price!
Question, would you use this in front of a 2003 Diezel Hebert Mk1?
@@davidgerlach1132 You can, but you'll have to add more bass and less treble to the Diezel.
Okay so in short, run this pedal in front of the amp on the clean channel?
Im getting it to use with a powerstage 170 which is a flat clean sound so far I like the pedal let's see how it goes
…Power section of marshall tube amp, with 3 other OD boosts in front, GE-7 EQ in FX loop, . sounds absolutely incredible. gets that Black Album sound ..the Adam Jones sound…80s EVH sound...
gotta learn to dial it in.
Dude, you are absolutely correct and appreciate your honesty. I just bought this pedal and it sounds "ok" running direct into the clean channel of my amps but it sounds like total shit anywhere I put it on my pedalboard.
There are WAY better pedals out there! Check the Church Burner pedal by Thisz Heavy Earth out of Portland, Oregon! It's BRUTAL!!!!
I agree I hate mine
I use it on my Carvin Vai Legacy VL100 in the clean channel... Works well. It's not a replacement for the actual Peavey 5150 amp though
My only complaint about the pedal is that the boost button does nothing. I want to mod mine to be closer to the red channel on my 5150 iii
This is such a popular episode but I made a part 2 where I rave about it! It's such a great pedal and yeah, the boost should add more umph that's more like the red channel!
I just got one and the thing I notice when tapping it starts low on the output then gets louder which seems odd. Not sure if it’s my amp, the pedal, or me. Sounds fine when I strum.
@@Arnold-vc7es that’s it. I only play most of my electric through a blackstar amp so this pedal stuff is new to me. I do like the EVH overdrive through a clean channel and it seems the gate was too high. I have a Strat so single coil. Will get something with a humbucker eventually. Thanks for replying.
Cool videos! Born and raised in Bay Ridge, BKLYN too!
Bro, I went to Fort Hamilton, HS! Where did you go?
@@louistorres same bro! 87-91. Small world but I think I may be a little older than you. Keep rocking - love the videos.
You should try the victory kraken pre amp. Gives ksr preamp a run for its money . I own the super kraken and it’s incredible for every type of music I play.
Dude, I grew up on 45th and 3rd ave! Go BK! Nice demo. Grabbing one of these!
What! No way! Stop it! You were down the block from the train station! Bro, I went to PS169 then Pershing, did you go to Dewey? :)
@@louistorres wow dude!!! Hehehe oh man..the memories..i went to ps1 across the ave or 3rd.. my cousins lived on 44th n 3rd my grandma on 50thst lol. The whole fam down in Sunset.
@@louistorres yup right down the block from the R train. We lived there forever. I lived in park slope for a while too, went to ps124, and is88, graduation was at jungle jay! Lol
The mirror is actually a great idea..it looks like you have twice as much gear ;-}}
Damn man. Pretty cool pedal. Sounded very close to your rectifier to me. Btw, great chops man!
Sounds mean AF. Ill have one🤘
I plan on using this into the crystal clean channel of a two amp rig. I was pretty sure this was a good one , now I’m confused
In this episode, I ran it as a preamp and it was terrible. I have another episode where I used it through the clean and it's amazing! Yes! It's a great pedal!
It's more voiced for Fender and clean amps. Why would you need this pedal with your rig?
You should watch my second video where I went over how amazing this pedal is. Ultimately, I realized I needed to run it through a clean channel and now it's brutal as AF! :)
Hm, not even close to the worst! Gotta run it into a clean channel, however I find that one can obtain a very similar sound if not a better overdrive running straight out of a tube amp, such as my nasty Peavey 6505+ (forerunner to the 5150) and the guitar I use is a 2021 EVH Wolfgang Special (unmodified)😮 Further, if I'm using my 5150 OD pedal, I prefer to run it into the front, not a rear FX loop. ✔️ I almost feel like this pedal worked better with a solid state, such as my old Orange Crush 60, I've noticed differences using it between SS and tube amps.
Hey Louis, that pedal sounds killer. Can you run it on a high gain channel or only clean?
lol he heart's your question but doesn't answer... omg.
how about we put 5150 overdrive pedal into the fx loop just like metal zone , just give it a try
Always used it into the clean of my katana and it’s great. Also it’s terrible as an overdrive specifically for sure, definitely should have been labeled as distortion.
Indeed, never use it as a preamp.
I use this pedal in front of a Mooer Cali dual preamp.
Sounds great ^^
Totally sounds great as a distortion pedal!! Yes! Not sure why they promote it as a preamp as well.
All that Van Halen stuff I have bought is junk, I will never buy nothn else with that name on it!!
EVH Stealth 50 watt is a beast!!! You'd love it!!
More of a diſtortion pedal þan an overdrive if you aſk me. Ever uſe an MXR diſtortion +? Sometimes leſs is more wiþ pedals.
I just read all that WITH the misspelled words, that was funny and yes, it's definitely just an overdrive. I made a follow up video to this and it's a great pedal when being used on a clean or blue channel. :)
@@louistorres not miſſpelled, but raþer uſing a ſtyle of orthography from Middle & Early Modern Engliſh, lol. Þ is an Engliſh letter called thorn. ſ is known as long s.
Your videos crack me up man. Refreshing to see brutal honesty in reviews on youtube. No one else does it lmao
Bro, I had to make another video where I used it as a boost and it's literally a BEAST of a pedal! Hahaha. Sometimes I get it wrong, not gonna lie. Hahaha! Happy Wednesday, Erich!!!
I had one but it was a bit of a one trick pony to me
The boost button didn’t mean shit and really only sounded best with everything at noon
The gate was okay but nothing special
I sold it and got the KHDK Dark Blood which is much better imo
Gotta admit it's a pretty good sound
There's a part two where I use it as an overdrive and it's a beast! Love this pedal!
It's insane I use it with the powerstage 200
YES I GIGGLED.......A LITTLE. LMAO. LUV THIS CHANNEL.
It's probably your guitar. This pedal was not designed for what you're doing. The pedal ain't the problem.
In this video, I used it as a preamp, but alas, you missed the second video where I raved about it as a boost.
Thanks for the review bro
I like your videos, but the frequency of ads usually make me stop short of finishing. Not sure what's different about yours and other videos, but you have ads like every 2 minutes.
There’s only like 3 in the whole video for me, stupid app 😂
hey man nice demo, well in my experience Some Distortion pedal Works well with clean platform amplifier (tube or solid state) that totally clean...of course with the right cab too, but its unconditionally..
Really? Ok good I bought it for my distortion pedal because I just bought a Mesa boogie and I dislike the distortion channels it has too much of a bee sound. I’m only going to use this for distortion instead of a pre-amp. I really want that brown sound distortion.
This thing is great through a clean channel! With the Mesa, you have to dial back the gain stage then use an overdrive to tighten the tone. That's the sort of "fix" that the Mesa Rectos need. Hope that helps, brother!
@@louistorres ok cool, I’m ordering the behringer the heavy metal pedal. What is your thoughts on the behringer pedals? Thanks that does help because the distortion on the triple is a little much. I bought the Mesa triple for $500 and I had to change the tubes so all in all I paid $1000 for the head.
Think to buy, does its really have a nice sound and high gain?
There's a part two of this video. Yes, it's a great pedal through the clean channel of an amplifier. :)
@@louistorres this pedal suitable for Metallica song or not 😅
So I just got this pedal
I've been using line 6 go for like ever and I got tired of the digital sound
Now Iam new to pedals I have a marshall 100 hdfx half stack
Where do I begin
I have one also it’s a very dark sounding pedal when Eddies sound was so bright go figure
Yes, I agree! I feel like it comes to life if you run an MXR 10 Band EQ through the effects loop. But now you're spending another $125 to make it sound better. Go figure! Haha! :)
That’s funny because mine has so much treble I have to dial it back.... I’ve owned a block letter, a II, I currently own a 6505MH, and I’ve played almost every iteration of iii so I’m prett familiar with the tone. I love my pedal but I run it at almost the lowest gain into the crunch channel of the 6505MH. Wails for me. Anything but “dark” though...
I should’ve watched the rest of the vid before I commented😂😂😂 yeah definitely run that through the front of the amp on a clean channel and it’ll getcha close to where ya need to be. I use fishmans and I never have to use another OD in front of the evh unless I’m using my LP Custom. Then it’s gotta be boosted a bit. Past that tho, I run Ltd sct-607B, evh, peavey solid state and that’s pretty much it. Cheers, duder!
Sorry you didnt like it dude! I was using it to boost a 2x12 solid state Peavey Vypyr combo amp before I could get a solid tube amp. I use to run it with a clean boost on the clean channel. Couldnt ever get a good tone out of it any other way. Once I got the Stealth I had no use for it. Definitely agree it's more or less a less intense distortion pedal if anything.
I like it now, just had to run it a different way. For the price, there are others that are much better.
Let’s see Tim Pierce and heavy studio names use it. But this no name in his basement hates it.
Agreed man i dont through it into the effects loop either i use it on my peavey 5150 right into the high gain channel haha it kills. I dont max the treble out cause it sounds too choppy imo id go to 7 or 6-7. Or a little over halfway sounds fine but depends on your amp. The boss ge-7 eq can clean it up as well. I turn the output to like 8 and the gain on the pedal to 4. Even at 4 is plenty of gain for a 5150
I think it sounded good how you used it here. I had the same issue with my Orange Bax Bangeetar preamp pedal. It sounds ok in the loop but much better in the front of the clean channel. New studio is nice by the way!
New sub, let's go Louis T!
Yo yo! What's up, brother! Thank you for subscribing to my craziness! :)
It's all about experimenting Louis! It's not like you were wrong, just trying diff things and some things work out, some don't! It does sound pretty killer though :O
Hey Louis! Need your recommendation, looking for a head, I can possibly get mesa dual rectifier, but I don't want mess with tubes, and this one will need replacement, I would prefer finding solid state. I know you have Randall RG models. I played mesa before I liked a lot haven't played Randall tho. What's your opinion? Playing hardcore and metal
They are totally different sounds between the Rectifier and the Randall RG line. A much better recommendation would be for you to listen to at least ten videos with each and hear which one is closest to the tone you like. Mesa Rectifiers are a self bias unit, so you pop in power and preamp tubes and that's it. There's that additional cost for tubes but just post in a grew groups that you need tubes and if anyone has any spares, everyone usually does! :)
@@louistorres Thanks man, appreciate quick response!
I run mine thru a clean Marshall Origin 20c, and I couldnt be happier !
I made a part two to this video, a mea culpa version, where I ran it through the front of a clean channel and it's a beast!!!!
Do you think maybe the Bogner Uberschall pedal is a similar situation as the EVH5150, to be used differently?
Anyone who thinks the "pedal" is a blue channel of a 5150 needs to stop smoking the cheap stuff! I run my EVH 5150 Overdrive like a hot-rodded Tube Screamer with my 100 watt Marshall DSL 100. I tun the gain waaaaaay low, up the output, and it compliments the dirty Marshall tone quite nicely. So, unlike a real TS, I can take advantage of the EVH's EQ, Gate, and Boost features. So, I love the pedal, but you also have to know how to play the amp, too! Thanks for the video -- nice to see videos that aren't made just for a bunch of "fanboys!" :D
Put it in the clean channel. Sounds much better.
Almost sounds like one of those Swedish death metal boxes the second way you set it up. Pretty nasty.
Great pedal!
Im getting one!
Is the Revv G3 pedal better used as preamp in the effects return input only, or in the front end in the clean channel?
have you or any of your crew ever tried D-Sound VH-510 tube pedal.... I've never tried it myself but was wondering i'll probably never try one because i have 2 6505s but curious if good.... also @14:51 kinda sounds like old digitech metal master pedal
Where is this preamp coming from? Run in Clean channel., too much gain messes it up... Classic Metal and rock,,, not Djent... IMHO... its a Dist. not Overdrive, Ed called it and overdrive so they gave it that name.
Yeah, I made a part two to this. I LOVE this pedal a ton, it's a monster!!
Great content, i like your Chanel very much :) very entertaining 🎸👍
Ya man I like using mine into a clean channel in front of an amp and sound great but I agree as a preamp no wayyyy
It is a distortion pedal - not a real overdrive pedal.
“EVH 5150 Overdrive” is the name of the type of distortion.
You could try & use it as an overdrive, but your results may vary & you might be disappointed.
I've been struggling to get my beloved HM-2 to work with my Rectoverb 25. After +20 years of glorious nastiness working through old clean Fender tube amps, it sucks with the Mesa!
I'm going pull it from my board and try it through the efx loop.
That being said, I've heard nothing but great reviews of the 5150 pedal. Thanks for posting this video and I will check out the pedal for myself in real life. Keep up the good work!
You can't buy one of the greatest pedals of all time for $100 or less. Can't believe he said that. He obviously hasn't spent time shopping for one of these.
Are you kidding me! Hahaha! One of the all time greatest pedals. Hahaha! GTFOH!! LOL! I have over 100 pedals right now and that's after selling about $6,500 of pedals last year. Come on, son. You clearly don't know what you're talking about!
Weres the 5150
What?
I bought one a month ago 2nd hand and was like if this sounds like the blue ch of an evh im fuckn glad i didn't buy the amp,but after a bit more time with it i can get some ok tones but was expecting it to be much better
Not sure about what is that sucks in this video: could be the pedal as it could be the guitar player.
At least I'm not some clown with a shirtless image of myself playing a shitty GIbson Les Paul. Hahaha!! Funny that more guitarists globally know who I am, over the hobby I have vs. YOU who thinks he's someone special. Hahaha! Sad, then again, you're hater #18,287 of the 2.5 million views and 10,000 subscribers. Oddly enough, it's always guys like YOU who end up being obsessed about my channel! "Why can't this be ME!?" Well, because I have the balls to be out there and you don't. And that's the difference between guys like ME and guys like you. That's real right there, my man. Go create a youtube channel, I'll wait. Actually, I haven't made a video in a year but have made several thousand literally doing nothing since then. : ) Enjoy the hate, HATER! I'm laughing to the bank! : )
Even still, it makes an "ok" OD at best. But it's still around 3-4 times the price of something like the SD-1.
I know! Crazy right!
Looks and sounds like your mic is on the center of the cone
There's a second episode where I fixed everything and ran it through the clean channel instead of using it as a preamp. :)
It's because the only thing overdrive about it is that it's the word printed on it.
Surprised Eddie allowed his name on it
It's a wee better this round.
Worst than metal zone?
Metal Zone is actually great if you run it through the effects loop! It's a totally different pedal than using it through the front and getting all the bees. :) Try it out, you'll be shocked!!
I was just thinking the same question
I seen ola usa it in the effect loop sounded great to me idk why it gets a bad rep
Mines always been straight in the front on my dirty channels and slays!
Would be nice if you didn't have so much anti van Halen views coming across in ALL your "reviews"
You be glad to know that I created another episode with this pedal and raved about how great it is. This was episode 1 of 2. :)