@@charliecrook9555 dash master is actually a requirement because you have to dash twice without losing any altitude underneath the wall in that last skip. The big change is getting soul twister which allows for 4 VS’s instead of 3, which makes the last two skips so much easier
@@Levi_02 also the TAS hit the wall which is easier because it gains more distance. Some guy did it without hitting the wall which seems much harder czcams.com/video/ZOg8Nm2j04I/video.html (don’t know why it’s unlisted) In the comments he stated that it’s somehow possible without dashmaster? If so then that skip would be undoubtedly the hardest skip
@@humblehive6502 needed to make it easier* I know it's possible with 3, but a vessel container doesn't help make it any easier since you can still only use 3.
@@justinquintela3369idk why my eyes completely did not see the word tas, so thanks for pointing that out. But because I more or less have heard of this skip before, and I know that it is humanly possible so I more or less saying that to all those who could pull this off.
So cool to see! I love the child prodigy route and was begging for a TAS a while back on a different channel! Would love to see the whole no C-Dash route someday
Pogo the spikes in the big room until you reach the end, die, pogo back over and Vengeful Spirit your Shade, then do the Shade bounce thing onto the platform I think
This could be a viable route for speedruns… Monarch wings + isma will not only save time on getting C-dash, but it also allows you to skip the Herra trap-bench.
@@elite6374 but square locket said “AND”, which means it’s still slower if 2 cycle requires nail 1, but it doesn’t even matter because 2 cycle doesn’t require nail 1
This might sound crazy but I just got to here in my game a different back way, I came in from the ceiling from that random room in Royal Waterways. I hadn’t beat Defender and didn’t have Monarch Wings. Don’t know if this is any help to anyone tho haha
No, it's not. The problem is because you can't get wings without having one nail upgrade, and the main route doesn't ever go to the left side of City. It's quite a big time waste.
@@haodzz well, with stall ball, the nail upgrade isnt even required, though stall ball is difficult, it still gives the route potential by removing a nail upgrade and charm requirement
It's possible to get it without crystal dash, just extremely tough, I'm not completely sure but it's also possible they modded the game or something for the purpose of the video to get double jump. Hope this helped you :D
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For ALL of this to be possible when it was meant to be impossible is so incredibly unlikely. Like, if even one of those steps was impossible, none of it would work.
![[TAS][Hollow Knight]Fools Trial 3 in 4:01](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VjO1fmbCqEA/mqdefault.jpg)
i want to see a speedrun with this route dude
Already on it
@@cuberknight TAS speedrun with this route will be amazing!!
skurry and insomnia have run this route iirc ! with some changes (dashmaster etc) to make it more humanly possible
@@charliecrook9555 dash master is actually a requirement because you have to dash twice without losing any altitude underneath the wall in that last skip. The big change is getting soul twister which allows for 4 VS’s instead of 3, which makes the last two skips so much easier
i think with just dashmaster this route is too hard for almost everyone, but they can use other charms to make it easier
He did it
Myla is safe now
no cost too great
Me: Oh yeah, this seems easily possible without TAS.
*VS gets used*
Me: _-ah.-_
I mean... it still is, just don’t expect it to be easy.
What is VS?
@@vlassispolitis-a vengeful spirit. Their saying the fireball skip part is difficult.
Get the soul twister in the soul sanctum, then you'll be able to do it once in every 100 attempts instead of once in 100,000 attempts
Well, skurry did it multiple times, but not easily ;-;
when skurry did this it went on for over a hour god that is hard
skurry did an easier version with spell twister so he could cast more vengeful spirit
@@splashiboi9179 yeah even with spell twister it still hard as heck
@@Levi_02 ik im just showing how the tas is even more insane than you thought
@@splashiboi9179 yeah
@@Levi_02 also the TAS hit the wall which is easier because it gains more distance. Some guy did it without hitting the wall which seems much harder czcams.com/video/ZOg8Nm2j04I/video.html (don’t know why it’s unlisted)
In the comments he stated that it’s somehow possible without dashmaster? If so then that skip would be undoubtedly the hardest skip
its so cool to see these tasvideos. thanks
i thought volt twister/vessel container was required for that skip, that’s insane
iirc specifically soul twister is needed; a vessel container doesn't fill up your soul bar fast enough to use 4 spells
@@calvindang7291 in he clip hey use 3 spells, not 4 so it isn’t needed
@@humblehive6502 needed to make it easier*
I know it's possible with 3, but a vessel container doesn't help make it any easier since you can still only use 3.
Yeah you can do it with 3 if you turn around and hit the wall really quick to gain some distance. It’s absurdly hard tho.
@Steven Victor Neiman I think it's been done once by humans before without twister, but never in a run.
0:08 0:08 0:08 we will we will rock you
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What a gamer! I look at the title and be like "yea I would like to try this, and am not too bad at the game so should be easy". Boy was I wrong.
The moment you see "TAS" that thought will instantly vanish
@@justinquintela3369idk why my eyes completely did not see the word tas, so thanks for pointing that out. But because I more or less have heard of this skip before, and I know that it is humanly possible so I more or less saying that to all those who could pull this off.
Even if it's 2 years later, I wanna say thank you very much. With this technique, I'm finally able to finish the game without Myla getting corrupted
So cool to see! I love the child prodigy route and was begging for a TAS a while back on a different channel! Would love to see the whole no C-Dash route someday
All from thath little genius in the first months of hollow knight.
This is awesome!!!!
I love how even with TAS capabilities and wcs it is still incredibly precise.
sick
tas could eventually show us if this any percent route or the current route is faster
This route is so difficult for human
@@cuberknight It would be cool if you could make a TAS of the full run. Though no worries if it will take to long.
@@bestofthebeasts573 already on it
@@cuberknight Cool, looking forward to it!
@@cuberknight ooooooo wow!!!
Wait... if you don’t have C-Heart, how do you get Monarch Wings?
Fireb0rn has a video that goes over that in detail I’ll try and see if I can find it
At the 16:24 mark he starts going over the method czcams.com/video/NsS3X0XwEYg/video.html
For those who're lazy enough to not want to watch the video: it's by using a really tricky and clever shade skip.
Pogo the spikes in the big room until you reach the end, die, pogo back over and Vengeful Spirit your Shade, then do the Shade bounce thing onto the platform I think
@@lonelysheepling Alternatively you can do this skip that I discovered for a separate category. czcams.com/video/EmYSwc1dzw4/video.html
Respect!!
This is gonna be what everyone does one day
It’s... slower though
Oh...
but if you do this route myla doesn't get infected
@@waffthewaffle not with stall ball. stall ball gives it potential
@@yummydragon8533 I very sincerely doubt that this route will ever see the light of day. But it’s pretty cool, I hope I’m proven wrong
This could be a viable route for speedruns… Monarch wings + isma will not only save time on getting C-dash, but it also allows you to skip the Herra trap-bench.
I saw many hollow knight player but did not see like you.
*pro*
How do you dash two times in midair?
Dashmaster charm. You can get it near the Mantis Village
Dashmaster Charm doesn't have like that skill.
Here is the evidence;
hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Dashmaster
tas is a god gamer
Dam. Nice
Would this be faster than the current route if two cycle Umu required at least nail 1?
No, and two cycle doesn't need nail 1 anymore.
@@squar3locket thats why they said 'IF'
@@elite6374 but square locket said “AND”, which means it’s still slower if 2 cycle requires nail 1, but it doesn’t even matter because 2 cycle doesn’t require nail 1
Для крыльев нужно кристальное сердце
How do you do the dash, immediately followed by another dash without touching the ground as seen at 0:08?
You need to dash the latest possible before leaving the ground
Just dash off a ledge and dash again midair. Its intended but yeah
Did you make a whole TAS run with this rout cant find it
This might sound crazy but I just got to here in my game a different back way, I came in from the ceiling from that random room in Royal Waterways. I hadn’t beat Defender and didn’t have Monarch Wings. Don’t know if this is any help to anyone tho haha
we dont have cdash but we have double jump
There's another skip you can do to get wings without c-dash
What was that movements my guy
*How do you be able to use Shade Cloak 2 times while in midair?*
If you dash while against a wall (and while pressing into the wall), your dash refreshes
How did u get monarch wings without crystal dash?
You can do shadow skip over there after pogoing all the way over the spike
This video briefly goes over it in detail, at around 16:24 czcams.com/video/NsS3X0XwEYg/video.html
but you have monarch wings, and idk how to get that without c-dash
Full run please
Resplendent. Now try Crystal Heart Without Ismas Tear, I bet it's impossible even with a TAS
No that one is easier.
@@ashutoshsamantaray2572 youmissedthejoke
its normal to get crystal heart without ismas tear
I wonder if this route would be faster in any% than the crystal dash
No, it's not. The problem is because you can't get wings without having one nail upgrade, and the main route doesn't ever go to the left side of City. It's quite a big time waste.
@@haodzz well, with stall ball, the nail upgrade isnt even required, though stall ball is difficult, it still gives the route potential by removing a nail upgrade and charm requirement
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No hwurp skip?
Dung Defender takes 86 hits
lave
But you need post crystal heart gear to do this....
Both are optional
save myla%
how did you get double jump without c dash
It's possible to get it without crystal dash, just extremely tough, I'm not completely sure but it's also possible they modded the game or something for the purpose of the video to get double jump. Hope this helped you :D
You can perform a shade skip, its pretty difficult but definitely possible
czcams.com/video/NsS3X0XwEYg/video.html at 16:24 mark they go over it
@@FIREOWLHK also it requires a nail upgrade
You use a fireball to lure your shade, to not kill it you need a nail upgrade
Save mylanacre secret sa e mylan
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Plot twist: he is actually a person but he doesn’t want to reveal his powers
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Edit 2: yeet
Edit3: I’ve never had dis many likes thank yoo
Not any more
Ok i got 10 likes in one day
Some people managed to do it
Not in a competitive speedrun tho
Just after hours of tries
@@poledra4153 yea I’ve seen them its pretty cool
Jeeeez this is a lot of likes
Da fuck bruh
Nice, you broke the game
You need monarch wings tough
Getting Monarch Wings without C-dash is much easier than this skip
it’s possible to get wings without crystal heart
Wtf...
you used monarch wings, but to get them you need crystal dash
You can do shadow skip over there after pogoing all the way over the spike
You can get them without crystal dash
@@nooscrim3674 I was just about to say that
czcams.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/video.html
Lol no
For ALL of this to be possible when it was meant to be impossible is so incredibly unlikely. Like, if even one of those steps was impossible, none of it would work.
Don't u need dash to get the momarch wings.