The Sennheiser IE600 is NOT for me, but it might be for you.
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00:00 - Intro
00:28 - Build, Design & Comfort
01:08 - Sound: Objective
05:22 - Sound: Subjective
08:21 - Conclusion
It’s great to hear your opinions on the IE 600, even if they’re not entirely positive!
Also, good on you guys for posting two ‘opposing’ reviews on the same channel. It’s really, really rare in this hobby to get varying opinions on balance from the same outlet. Please continue doing what you’re doing, the hobby needs more of it.
I can’t believe you’ve done this
Yeah હા ભાઈ 😀
This review definately contrasts with others I have seen on this iem. I treat each review as just another data point of many before deciding. Thanks!
Thank you for this review :D
Mine arrived today. I must say after owning every audiophile headphone of Sennheiser. The most Wow effect was long ago with HD650 and HD600 and some years later with the original HD800. (then i had hd700, hd800S, Ie800, Ie800S, not much wow effect.) Here comes the Ie600, i never thought i will have the same wow effect again like 10+years ago, and yet here it is. This is a marvelous neutral sound, it feels so lifelike, so extended in both end still neutral mids with all of the details and good stereo image, and dymanic ,clean, fast sound , i never had this with any iem which I had ( Ca Andromeda 2020, CA Atlas, AKG n5005, ie800/S , Final Audio A8000, Dunu Zen, Sony Xba, N3, and a lot chifi iems) . I must say this Ie600 is one of the best iems i listened Money no object.
Thank you much, I knew they must be excellent, not as presented in this video. I already saw DMS video in whose ears I trust.
Again, you made a statement like nobody else.
What about blessing dusk?
"is a marvelous neutral sound" 🤣😂
Fanboy detected.
@@jasoneel76 I tried Blessing 2 (non-dusk), Variations, S8, Thieaudio Monarch Mark II, Sony IER-Z1R, Sennheiser IE900, and the IE600. I have to say the IE600 was the best sounding to my ears, very special...
Interesting review. I never picked up on the sibilance though.
Wait, that's illegal
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IKR, crazy that people can have differing opinions.
Honestly it seems like sometimes being sibilant is a prerequisite for DMS liking a thing. But then...how does he also like the 6XX, I don't know anymore
@@metal571 Actually I think that difference might be down to an HRTF thing. We noticed this when listening to some speakers at Munich High End - where I thought the treble was nice and smooth and he found it sibilant. So this is like another example of IEM preferences being even more variant than over-ear headphones or speakers.
@@metal571 perhaps he has some bright sounding cables for 6XX ;)
These are a high end IEM with consumer tuning preferences. So many people will love this V-shaped tuning with these technical qualities
Thank you for this video! Love honest reviews: this is rarely these days. I, personally, have never seen a good comparison reviews of the compact and comfortable universal monitors in the $1K - $1.5K price range, like the Sennheiser IE600, the IE900 and Sure SE846 or the Sure SE846 Gen 2. I would love to see such reviews very much. The reason is small size, aesthetics and comfort versus lots of brightly painted "bricks" of the IEMs which so many reviewers revving about. These IEMs itself look very comfortable to me and aesthetically pleasing despite their strange and questionable quality cables.
I bought these a few months ago and I love them to death !!Dynamic, detailed, natural, musical, fun and engaging . Not to mention how comfortable and light they are. That’s remarkable TBH for an IEM this small with a single DD. I’ve also got the Campfire Andromeda & Sony IER M9 and this is easily my favorite all-rounder. To each his own my dear Resolve !
mid bass is slightly boosted from 200-400 Hz hence the V shaped moniker from andrew which is not far from expectations. I've seen DMS change in the past year, started right around embracing zeus. good for you man. keep enjoying the music. increased plasticity throughout the auditory pathways...shaping subcortical circuity...possible increase in emotional intelligence..better learning at the least.
Any chance on reviewing the Advar? Same price, single DD, and all metal build.
Also you probably need to tip roll with the IE600, the overwhelming majority of people have said the stock Sennheiser eartips are awful, including Super Review.
We need more Resolve takes.
Hi. Great informative review!. I d´really like a review/opinion about Fiio fh9 and measurements. I have the fh9 and despite their pleasant highs, well airy sound, I can´t stand the lower mids. I found something like an unpleasant resonans there. Reminds me a bit like the annoying acoustic of a trouble room. But i can´t find the right Hz to make the proper eq
This was the first time you didn’t like something I ended up *loving!* I couldn’t quite hear the spicy treble at all. It’s surprisingly good at separation for an IEM.
Bought these and wow, especially for classical complexity that my 7hz Timeless struggles with (still love my Timeless!)
Great review! hate sybling..thanks for letting us know.
you can't just say "you can find better xyz for around this price" and not give examples
Ikr😂
THANKS!
Hmm very interesting, i actually replace the tips with moondrop’s spring tips and love the more treble out of it
What are the iems that you like over this that you refer to at the end of the vid?
Can you show a deep fit Frequency Response? Is that better to go for?
Any plans to review the new Westone lineup?
If you're not a fan of the spicy treble on the ie600, I highly recommend using the foam tips instead. The iem becomes a lot warmer, and it takes the edge off of the treble.
I have an ie600 on my Way.Im looking forward to hear them.What i like is the material.So they can last for years.I also have the ie300 and shure aonic 4,wich are both good sounding,but not spectacular or wow factor.The ie600 will propably be my endgame iem if i like them.
Hi, like you, I have the aonic 4 and planning to get the ie 600 hoping they would be way better. So can you please tell me if the upgrade is worth it in retrospect, thanks a lot.
This is perfect to listening to the Better Call Saul intro 1 hour loop
Funny
Please do a recommended Sony Xm5 Eq settings.
Thank you.
how does this compared to the OG Zen? im looking to get this for quite a while now since its one of the most comfy, well built and SMALL iem regardless of price now. Love the Zen just because its so well built and comfy to wear, unlike the B2 or any Monarch/Clair variant
Have you looked into Sure IEMs? They look very similar. I, personally, have Never seen a good comparison reviews of both high-end monitors, like the Sennheiser IE600, the IE900 and Sure SE846 or the Sure SE846 Gen 2 and would pretty much loved to.
I hope the livestreams come back before too long.
Surely you buy an IEM for it's technical performance. A v-shape can be fixed with Qudelix.
great point!
For bass slam and resolution how is it against the Zen pro?
V-shaped single DD hi end IEM from a German brand? That sounds a lot like Beyerdynamic Xelento. How do you compare between these two?
V shape is fun, that's why almost every consumer product aims for that. As long as no detail is lost I think it is a boon for my tastes.
I have no idea how people can stand sibilant sound profiles. Harsh treble a big no-no for me.
After some major waffling I got the IE600 and I love it. There is nothing in my collection that sounds quite like it. Thanks Resolve for suggesting I give it a try despite your review. 👍🏻
Glad you like it!
8 months later -- how is the IE 600 sitting in your collection these days? I just dropped $500 on Edition XS which is my first intro to mid-Fi (to me this is pretty expensive) and it's very good. Notably better than my 560S and DT 770 Pro and a slew of other gaming sets I've tried. Now what I am realizing is the way I enjoy music might be completely different than I imagined. The intensity of an IEM is hard to beat unless you are running the Edition XS at red-hot levels. IEM gives it to you even at medium levels. I think this is due to the smaller sound stage.
@@drewmorg. I’m very happy with it still. Definitely a Kepler. 👍🏼
@@GadZookz ty sir, hope its a Kepler for me too.
@@drewmorg.did you get the ie600? if yes, are you happier with it than the XS?
Always wondered what resolve thought of the M9
It's good!
Watching your videos makes me want to dive back into reading the dictionary, cause I am missing out on all those audio terms
Thank you so very much for the honest review. Many other people have a policy of not saying anything negative.
I have much higher sensitivity to sibilance than most people, and the Harmon curve goes against my preferences and to be honest what I can tolerate. And it's fine, I love Sennheiser otherwise.
Do you love the company in general or these IEMs? Please clarify because you sound just about like a fanboy.
Do you have any Sennheiser recommendations? I too can't stand sound profiles with harsh trebles. I'm all about the warm sound with clear mids.
@@AkerfeldtTveitan-yi4xm not IEMs, but I really enjoy the middle-priced sennheiser HD-6xx for instance.
So IE900 or IE300 better for you since they are recessed in the upper mids?
Upper mids are also recessed here in 600. He is complaining about treble not upper mids.
@@AliArghavan true, but also he complained about sibilance a lot.
@@fahryst That's usually 6-10khz where those tones get elevated. Upper mids and the midrange in general is actually good on the IE600, just overshadowed by bass and treble.
@@ResolveReviews answer I was looking for, thanks as always :)
I know you hinted at the Sa6 being better tuned than ie600 in your opinion. How does the technicalities compare?
What headphones slightly higher in price would you say are better (I'm looking for something a little more meaty than the Monarch ii or a little more mid bass with similar sub bass).
Lastly how does the timeless compare in technicalities (I'm ok with the planar timbre. I like it).
I prefer the technicalities of the IE600 over the timeless, but the timeless is pretty darn good for the price yeah, and planar - so it's kinda different in that sense. IE600 is much more punchy. I'd put the SA6 on a similar level for technicalities, but also for different things. They each are good at different things, but for personal preferences... tonality > technical. So like, tonality and separation/control = SA6, for timbre and contrast = IE600. Other than that, check out the U6t if you can swing it, although that's almost twice the price.
@@ResolveReviews thanks I'll consider the sa6
I was thinking of going FULL u12t (pun for full retard). Is it worth it over the u6t or is the u6t too close to the u12t for the u12t to be a bargain?
@@ResolveReviews what do you like about the u6t? Looks interesting
It's funny how our brains pick up sibilance differently. I don't get any sharp s sounds from this, but do from my Timeless.
Actually there are some variables that might attribute to such variables- insertion depth, eartips themselves, as well as brain burn in. I say brain-burn-in, since I too, found the timeless to be sibilant. But they now sound completely natural to me
@@sethagastya I still use and like my timeless, but the sibilance, although only noticable on about 10% of my tracks, does not get better. I think one factor is the actual form of your ear canal.
@@chuckyfox9284 I think that as Precog said in one of his writeups, sibilance is baked into some music tracks as well. Maybe it is something to consider as well.
I have fond memories of my senn px100. I've tried and tried and tried modern senns. Those momentum earbuds, a cx300. I had to put cotton in the silicon tip to calm down the shrieking, sibilant sound. And here i am still trying to give senns a try. Some say it's less sibilant than the 300s. That 600's sibilance is tolerable. Just a little bit spicy.
Sennheiser is like that car manufacturer you admire and have had good past but is currently going through it's ugly design language phase.
I've enjoyed Audio Technica, Sony's and AKGs. But yeah. Senns for now is not for me. What i was looking for is if that signature sennheiser sibilance have been solved. Apparently not. Sigh.
You should try them on a quality tube amp for fun. You might be surprised.
Sennheiser says that the frequency response goes up to 46.5 kHz, and this isn't even close to that. What's up with that?
Funny that people don't understand about volume. The i600 is great for medium volumes. Around 40 to 60db. Over 80db the treble goes up in ear effect by 10 dB. So when people saying that the i600 is the best is because or you listen to medium volumes or your ear canal makes that difference
Wow I was very close to getting this. But even a slight chance of it being sibilant is enough to stop me from ordering. Will have to listen first then. This is definitely subjective but even a tiny sibilance kills everything for me.
I seriously don’t think bass curves on IEMs function the same way they do on headphones tbh. without a solid warmth curve an IEM will sound way too thin as opposed to a headphone where the same exact bass response could be more than adequate.
For instance, on the LCD2 it was the opposite of warm. It was bass light diffuse field level bass. However this was more than enough to satisfy most people. Now imagine that same curve on any shallow insertion IEM? it’d sound like shit.
IEMs bleed a lot of bass for some reason. And not just subbass…midbass! They bleed midbass and without that warmth there is very little impact or slam
have u tried etymotic er 2/4 siries
@@rafeezrazi92 that’s deep insertion so it’ll have less low end bleeding out
Oluv might be right
@@rafeezrazi92 just bought the e4xr. It was perfect after coming from shure215 and ie80
@@rafeezrazi92 I tried them, it’s like getting the Star Trek 2 worms in my ears and the sound wasn’t all that IMO.
Imo the IE900 can get sibilant especially with brighter sources but I haven't experienced any sibilance myself with the IE 600.
Yikes! I just ordered it. How long have you been sitting on this puppy? 😃
eh you might like it. The fit/comfort alone make it interesting. DMS loves his.
@@ResolveReviews Everyone loves it including Crinacle. Alas, your ears are my best test for whether I will like something. Maybe this video is only your first impression and you will soon discover they are groovy man. 😎
@@GadZookz yeah could be. I think Crin also mentioned the same issues I found, but he wasn't as bothered by them as I was.
@@ResolveReviews Fortunately I ordered it from a Canadian store and was just able to cancel it due to their shipping office being closed yesterday for the Victoria Day holiday. Also congrats to Her Majesty QEII for 70 Years on the throne!
Really enjoyed this - people have been singing this IEM’s praises since it came out. I’m glad to hear the opinion of someone who doesn’t do v-shaped.
Personally I’m a fan of bass cannons, even though this sound profile isn’t to your taste, it’s good to hear that this is certainly competent on the other more technical aspects of its presentation.
It’s on my list to try out.
ie600 is not bass canon, mostly netural, It is as V shaped like the mostly netural etymotic er4xr. Not an extreme V shape like Campifre Atlas or ie300, Also It mostly depends on the fit.
@@sebanambrus9265 No it is not neutral. Fanboy detected.
@@sebanambrus9265 How can something be this V shaped be considered “neutral”
I’ve always liked neutral, but man have these converted me at least partially to a good V shape
I've listened to the IE600 for one week, and I don't think that it's a very V-shaped IEM, more a mild V-shape. For me it sounds natural, I haven't had problems with sibilances or sharpness. The treble is smooth, also the mids, and the bass...man, I love the bass. It's nearly the perfect amount with a nice punch, but it was never too much.
A very nice IEM. But honestly, my 7Hz Timeless is very similar in its tuning and technical abilities, so I wouldn't spend 700 bucks for a IEM which sounds nearly the same, at least with some EQ. The IE600 also benefits from EQ, I've reduced some small peaks which makes it even more smoothly.
Kato/Oxygen/Aria etc. have 0 upper treble, treble sounds blunt with no reverberations. ie600 is in a different league altogether
vs. IE900?
Sennheiser aimed at mainstream consumers and it worked, IE600 is insanely fun for modern music.
The Chad dissenting from the hivemind
Isn't the IE900 even more V-shaped? If you didn't like the 600 you'd prob hate the 900 I imagine. At least the 600 is only half the cost. 🤷🏻♂️
Review the Mangird Tea 2
yes, and FH9 as well...
Same for me. To Bright for me
oh boy
philphone plz
@@ResolveReviews 😩
I've never noticed any t's, s's sound when using IE600. I always use my favorite ear tip which is flat and not deep. It closes my ear hole completely and I use gryphone or zencan signiture or bacoon amp and I never heard any tt, ss, chch sound.
Well someone got off the Crin hype train ; )
What do you like for less money?
Blessing 2 or Dusk, Dunu SA6, Moondrop Variations (depending on your ear canal) to name a few. Also OG Monarch and Clairvoyance are still good, same with Oracle.
@@ResolveReviews thank you!
This is the exactly same experience I had with the IE300 and the very same reasons why I sadly decided to return them. Loved the dinamics, but the sibilance was almost painful in some tracks. Alas, not for me.
Do you really need a graph to know how something sounds?
The graph just let's you get a sense of it, and visually represent the relative balance. It's not there to substitute actually listening to it.
"It's theoretically so small you can push it far into your ear." Do I hear a deep insertion sennheiser iem.
Its a shame that a 700$ IEM has sibilance issue.
And that's why folks, the graphs don't tell the complete story. Ie600 are by no means bassy. They can be, if the track requires it but they are balanced.
i think the Final Audio E5000 beat them allway up and these for 249$ (on sale) 279-299 normal price
All the ie series have bass that are overdone imo. IEMs such has the blessing 2 and ER2XR have just the right amount from my experience
Next video is called "The Evils of Colorations"
The MANY evils
Ie600 or shure se846?
It's not for me too.
Ie600s are treble cannons for sure, bought these, arrived today returning it today. I want the notes to reverberate with weight, these don’t do it. Bass should slam, these don’t. Treble should be there but not take Center stage, stabbing treble, these have. Unbelievable how these sell for 700€. I’ve got the ifi zen desk, doesn’t help. Is there any iem that sound great just plugging into iPhone via the iPhone dongle. It looks super fussy to have a dac dongle and lug it all over town and sit at office with. I just want a sleeper iem that plugs in any regular headphone jack and screams quality. So I can disappear into music, my own world, without anyone at office knowing you know?
Fiio FH5? I have the FH5 and they are quite warm, superb bass, and the highs are not overly emphasized. The FH5 is very comfortable as well. The FH5 sounds quite good with the IPhone dongle as well.
I find it bizarre that in 9 full minutes you talked about detail or clarity for about 5 seconds, you know the things that most people interested in these care about almost exclusively.
I’m so confused right now I thought you worked for a headphone retailer so you were supposed to shill every new thing that came out?
We're also a headphone media and content platform that's run to be totally separate from the store. There's no pressure or influence put on reviewers to say anything one way or another.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow absolutely and we respect you for it.
It’s clearly independent from all the reviews we see on the channel which is why you have so many subscribers and hopefully will get many more.
I was just throwing out some sarcasm in advance of people who nevertheless complain that you are not “objective“ enough.
The next step on your reviews will be to leave your preference at the front door and focus more on how A compares to B. That’s a constructive feedback from someone who enjoys your reviews
Want one.
Senny plz endorse a no name artist like me.
1. This is exactly what I expected someone to say about this IEM. You’re now my reference point.
2. Was this video sped up?
3. Would love to hear your thoughts on the planar hype sets.
I have a problem with this review. Sibilance is a distortion, it is not user specific. If you hear it and someone else does not, one of you is wrong. I suspect it is just hot treble you are describing.
Strictly speaking, an emphasis to the sibilant tones has nothing to do with distortion, but rather everything to do with frequency response. That can be elevated in the mix, or it can be in the playback equipment, like in this case. But I will note, how noticeable it is WILL depend on the head-related transfer function of individual people. So while there's a general trend for 'correct' for human ears, that's not going to be specific for each individual. But for MY head related transfer function, yes, the emphasis to sibilant tones is due to 'hot treble' as you put it, specifically between 7-10khz.
Sibilance is, in fact, user specific. My particular sibilance range is around 6.1k so I always look for a dip around 6k in the graph before buying an IEM. Oluvsgadgets put out a sibilance test a while back asking for people to identify where in the FR they heard sibilance and the results were evenly distributed across a wide FR range.
Buy it, 4 real.
Not for me either, over rated and the sound quality isn’t as captivating as some people rave about. There are better iems out there. Even some wireless buds do better than these but that’s just one’s preference of personal sound.
I was thinking andromeda 2020 or IE600. Hmmmm andromeda stages well with great vocal presentation
U6t if you can swing it.
@@ResolveReviewswatched your previous video talking about it with DMS. Will definitely check it out . Thank you. Fan from Singapore 👍🏽
@@nurmbms90 since you mention andro i highly recommend you go over to connect it and try ier-m9
@@tusharsuresh5897 I did, still
Prefer andromeda 2020 on a subjective level.
The way you describe them does not impress me. Perhaps for movies and games.
light note and boring that's your likeable sound come on now
Indian price
I got more respect for Andrew after this review, despite visiting Germany Sennheiser Factory but still honest about his opinion on IE600. I never liked iE series all of them have odd tunings It looks like they are experimenting with market demand. DMS lost my respect for flashing his IE600 on a visit to Germany.
We did not visit the Sennheiser factory. That was something different. I did chat with the guys from Sennheiser though over the weekend. Super nice guys, and very receptive to feedback.
I own this set. Can't get past the sibilance on vocals. It also makes high hats and snare drums stand out more than anything. It's amazing if you're listening to Miles Davis or something similar. But listen to Lewis Capaldi and it's painful.
use foam tips