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hey everyone! this is a video i've been meaning to make for a long, long time. there are a lot of misconceptions about chara, and there's so much more to them that we don't see unless we look a little closer! so please, enjoy this video compiling all the evidence in the game about chara, wonderfully narrated by my good pal sam! enjoy, and remember - anyone can be a good person, if they just try. let's all try MERCY!
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WHY ASRIEL SAYS CHARA ISN'T THE GREATEST PERSON:
he says they "weren't the greatest person." not the greatest =/= evil.
also, monster kid says the exact same thing about undyne at the end of the game - they say she was actually kind of a jerk, and that they idolized her too much. but we know that undyne's actions came from a place of wanting to save and protect monsters, right? she just made a few mistakes while doing so, that's all! so we forgive her, because we understand why she did it. ...so....why not chara? ;D
asriel isn't calling chara a 'bad person', he's just acknowledging that he overidolized them and that they made mistakes. like everyone!
frisk also has the ability to reset and fix all their mistakes, chara did not - making them look worse by comparison.
WHY CHARA HAS MELTY FACE AND JUMPSCARES US:
to punish us for killing their friends, silly!
CAN HUMANS ABSORB MONSTER SOULS?
no, but they can absorb BOSS monster souls (the dreemurrs), because they persist for a few seconds after death.
![Undertale - CHARA Theory [FOLLOWUP]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7uY1Eyk8frk/mqdefault.jpg)
![Undertale - CHARA Theory [FOLLOWUP]](/img/tr.png)
just so everyone is aware, I made this video when I was an extremely socially anxious 17 year old with undiagnosed autism, and the resulting legacy it left on my online presence has been both bewildering and admittedly kind of terrifying! I'm glad it reached so many people who saw it as important, eye opening or meaningful to them - it's a very clunky and flawed video and is missing some nuances here and there, but of course I still stand by my valiant Chara defense passion after all these years.
if you're going to discuss this video or leave a comment in the lord's year of 2023, it'd mean a lot if you could keep in mind that a kid made this video - a kid who still very much feels very insecure and distressed about it all, has a Genuine Fear Response to the thought of looking at the comments section, and was NOT (nor am I now) in a good enough place with my mental health to be able to process or handle the amount of attention it drew to me, nor to even... "run" a CZcams channel, to be perfectly honest!
thanks!!!
TYSM For this AMAZING video when I first watched it oh so long ago I didn’t know a lot about undertale I just saw Chara as the ‘villain’ of the game but then when I watched this vid it was just such an eye opening experience and she’d light on this game and Chara as a character and made me love their character so much more than I think I could’ve or would’ve you are truly an inspiration and I hope you know that you are amazing! Anyway I hope wherever you are now you are ot will be in a good place!👍
:)
I remember when years and years ago I was dead set on chara being the villain until my friend showed me this video and it completely changed my view on them. This is genuinely the best undertale video I’ve ever seen!
@@hirobon3641 where i agree chara isnt the villian, they are still not a good person
I appreciate the effort you put into this video, but I think the theory that you are manipulatIng Chara is contradicted by the game itself, which heavily implies that they were always interested in helping you kill everyone. They count how many monsters are left, they move Frisk to go after monsters on their own, and they kill Flowey slowly without your input. Even Asriel tells you that Chara wasn't the best person. Don't give me wrong: the player is the main instigator of the Genocide Route, but Chara has no issue helping you.
"Papyrus is free of sin"
Also Papyrus: *beats you with an inch of your life and then throws you in his shed*
It's better than *_a Rave dancing bone chilling epic skeleton fight with a popular song that is misunderstand for a meme or a sound effect_*
He only knows about the bad stiff humans did in the game.
i wanna like this but its at 69 likes and i dont wanna ruin it
Smg4?
OK this isn't a to time
“Who’s the villain?!”
Everyone points to Frisk
Frisk points to Chara
Chara points to Gaster
Gaster points to the fandom
All the fandom points to the player
Sans points to the player
Toby points to the player
Player: “Oh shi-“
Oh god 😂
Oh *shinanigan*
I blame the boomers.
Luna_MysticWolf99 *player points to me* D a. F u c k. *i point to betty*
Wouldn’t most of the fandom just be pointing at each other at that point-
Deltarune, to me, confirms this theory/viewpoint. We do the exact same thing to Noelle in the Snowgrave route. Chara's dialogue about getting stronger matches up really well with the theming of Noelle becoming blindly guided by us towards getting stronger.
exactly, watching this again with deltarune chapter 2 in mind makes it a lot more compelling. chara is a lot more like noelle in this situation, not kris
i feel like kris manipulating noelle is more representative of the player/frisk or player/kris relationship than player/chara.
as the player, we force the person we play as ( frisk/kris ) to do what we want, making the choices for them. in genocide in undertale, we force frisk to do various actions that lead us down the route of genocide, forcing them to "proceed." this is reflected with kris and noelle, where kris forces and pushes noelle down this path.
chara was never one of the people controlled. instead, chara was an outsider in a sense who helped the player in the genocide route.
I was just thinking about that connection! Noelle apprehensively says something along the lines of "Getting stronger is a good thing...isn't it?" , which reminded me of Chara's "Together we eradicated the enemy and became strong." Both of these lines sound like the person saying them isn't happy about becoming "strong." It's something you forced them to do, and was never what they wanted.
I'm 100% certain that Snowgrave was Toby's way of making it more clear to us we are the one who made Chara into a murderer.
Toby fox made the snow grave route to show how Chara is an incredibly evil demon, and that the description this video gives to Chara doesn't fit.
In irish (my language) “Chara” is an actual word, pronounced the same as anyone who spoke Irish did too! And shockingly enough it means “friend”, how fitting.
Aww! thats so sweet!
xd
Literally!
I'm Irish amd when I started hearing that Chara was "evil" I was thinking that it was weird
True mean of this name:
it's quite interesting. chara probably comes from character. but it's also a star name (part of why people think the unused ost "star" is chara's theme). but it can also mean friend.
“The player is like flowey”
- bored
- curious
- all-mighty in game
- soulless
Yeah, that’s about right
True....
@Ruby Folsom bro..
@Ruby Folsom are u fr- when i watched someone play genoside i started to laugh
Ruby Folsom u are kidding right? I mean..they always attack first.
Ruby Folsom I mean fare enough if u are attached to the game. I respect ur opinions just..stating a fact? Sorry I made this awkward..
You guys do realize that Chara's jumper's color scheme is Yellow and Green. Yellow and Green in SOUL is represented by Justice and Kindness. That would greatly support this theory/analysis.
yeah! chara represents justice and kindness - these can represent how they behave in the routes. frisk represents perseverance and patience/integrity.
OMG I Just noticed that!
+Judgement Boy “Chara is death!!!OK???😡”
Ah, yes. My much more stupid years. Lovely. Excuse my younger self, I was a bit of a close-minded female dog. I apologize for my past actions, please stop batting me over the head for something I said on the internet years ago. I’m sorry.
Judgement Boy Perseverance is closely related to Determination.
Trixster009 yeah! the symbolism in their colors is really cool
“Chara only killed one person.”
Wait who?
“Themselves.”
OKAY THAT’S SAD-
no
2
themself
and...
themself... a second time...
And THIS is why I am always upset by UT fangames blaming chara for evil stuffs
@@Dr0pm1cThe5thType THISSS. FINALLY SOMEONE SAY IT.
@@Dr0pm1cThe5thTypeYES.
chara literally slaughtered the entire underground based off canon lore evidence but go on
A few things I felt worth mentioning about Chara laughing about Agore being sick
1: Asriel says that he "Should've laughed it off" Like Chara did, implying that Chara's reaction was perfectly normal
2: In Deltarune we see Noelle's Dad laughing off his own sickness, which could be an example of how Chara felt or even how Asgore was acting during his recovery, possibly trying to make light of the situation
1. Not really, because again chara is a human not an monster
2. That has nothing to do with undertale
@@denysvision
1. I don't see how that is exclusive to monsters
2. Deltarune is basically just undertale in a universe where the war didn't happen, Rudy, (noelle's dad) is mentioned in the undertale alarm clock, which is canon, it's an example of how laughing during pain isn't always used for evil
@@megaloodin 1. because there are 2 oposide viewed on different race?
2. nope, 2 different games, 2 separated universes, monsters in deltarune are quite different if you look at them, they fell more like people than one note, and "laughing out of pain" thing doesn't apply in deltarune because as I said is not like undertake, and no there was no a clock in undertake that says about noelle's father
@@denysvision Laugh it off means "To make yourself laugh about something unpleasant in order to make it seem less important or serious" Cambridge dictionary.
@@joaks1969 proof? + this is already 3 month old comment, so why do you even care?
19:20
Toriel: mom GOAT
Asgore: dad GOAT
Asriel: son GOAT
Chara: scape-GOAT
That is actually good
GOAT
accurate.VERY accurate
I GOAT fill with deteminetion
Me: bruv *GOAT*
Player: *murders everyone in cold blood*
Also player: damn, Chara why would you do this?
Chara is evil
@@isislemons303 I can't believe that in every comment you keep trying to impose the same thing. Everyone thinks differently from you, respect that
@@isislemons303 YOU FOOOOOOOL!!!!!!! YOU ARE THE VILLAIN! YOU COMITTED GENOCIDE AND THEN YOU FRAMED CHARA FOR IT!!!!!
@@isislemons303 did you do a genocide route?
I'ma say it right here before anyone starts throwing punches. Chara isn't evil. And isis lemons (the one that keeps saying that Chara was evil) admitted in a different reply section that they were wrong. So you can stop calling them an idiot now.
I can't believe I'm only finding this video now, 5 years after the fact. You did such a great job with this! This is always how I felt about Chara; not some psychopathic killer, but a misunderstood and incredibly tragic character. All the small details and in depth-analyses you included excellently corroborated Chara's true nature. You understood the assignment, my friend.
True,very true
She's way worse than a murderer. She manipulates people into carrying out murderous deeds on her behalf.
@@arkhamaslume Precisely.
@@arkhamaslume when
Omg
Saw someone on Reddit say
“The fact that Chara needs a defense squad means Toby Fox failed in the message he tried to send with Undertale” and I haven’t been the same since.
Wow
That dude just murdered Tony and got away with it
Wow thats true but also in deltarune, toby made it obvious that kris is innocent and we the player are the mean ones but multiple people say that kris is evil in genocide lol
He didn't fail the fandom is just obsessed with their weird comics and fanfiction.
@Jump Jack Lmao they're like 10 dude
@Jump Jack okay grandpa its time to get you back to your room
This connects so well with deltarune SPECIALLY WITH THE ENDING, OH JESUS.
In UNDERTALE we controlled Chara and Frisk,
In DELTARUNE Kris refused our control.
TOBY FOX IS UP TO SOMETHING!
Did you know that Kris is the carnation of Chara and Frisk they are Chara and Frisk it's just that most of the time it's frisk/Us who are in control so most of the time it's frisk being the narrator
In the next game, the protagonist will propably control the player at this rate xD
I think that maybe toby let us use the character we created to play after maybe all other characters try to stop the player to exist in that world but that is just a theory A GAME THEORY.
Kris better not be evil
Deltarune isn’t finished.
This game is a prime example of “WHEN WILL YOU LEARN? THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!
You Fricken Fricks!
So true
haha yeah
@@farzanamunni1789 veemo!
@@farzanamunni1789 y e s
Well, I guess I will never learn, since I dont have the will to kill the characters I grew to love
This interpretation of the Genocide run really hits different with the new Snowgrave run
YOURE RIGHT the snowgrave run is like a more narrative version of this where we see the coercion play out and how it affects the characters...
@@guccelia2701 Both runs are about how the player manipulates the characters to kill.
@@swordofstabbingold Oh yes, completely! Sorry if I put it wrong! I just mean with snowgrave the manipulation is shown from the start (not that it makes it better or worse!)
Noelle = Chara confirmed??? 😂
The player manipulates Frisk through Chara the same way the player manipulates Kris through whatever the narrator is.
Player: *shoots Toriel*
Also player: “Why would Chara do this?”
Omg this was the comment I was looking for
im glad this is the top comment. 😌
I don’t think chara did do it
Lol but in the game frisk yeets the gun
Me:*pokes player with a knife*
*YOU CHOSE* to shoot Toriel. Chara didn't just randomly do it for you ya asshole
"The absolute GOD of Hyperdeath" and "The demon that comes when people call its name" both sound like edgy deviantart OC names
Almost like a pair of kids came up with these names?
Silver Wolf yes, asriel is a kid
its now my headcanon that asriel and chara snuck into asgore and toriel's room to make edgy monster deviant art ocs
@@veemochi6530 headcannon accepted
300th like >:D
I feel like Kris fighting for control from the player in Deltarune while being Chara's counterpart is vindicating this video. In the alternate route, Noelle says she continues to hear voices commanding her even when Kris is down to emphasize that we the player are influencing her, not Kris.
There is some fans who say kris is evil
Some say chara os the one who did snowgrave
But really are we humans (players) that bad ?
@@krisgetthe8298 Yes indeed we are.
Also nice name. Potassium.
@@assassinaterwolf7877 oky now that s bad
Imma be a serial killer now and kill bad people!!
Ps : Idon'tbelieveinevilorkindness
Also . May kris and the banna lighten up your day
@@assassinaterwolf7877 oky now that s bad
Imma be a serial killer now and kill bad people!!
Ps : Idon'tbelieveinevilorkindness
Also . May kris and the banna lighten up your day
@Jetzflare I think you're missing the point. Undyne was always the hero.
Pretty much all of this was already in my thoughts about Chara, but I never clocked the (admittedly now quite obvious) admiration for Undyne! What a treat, honestly--it makes perfect sense in parallel to Flowey and Papyrus, with Chara gravitating toward the bold, powerful hero who would sacrifice everything for her friends, and Asriel gravitating to the hesitant, kind-hearted sort of sidekick who respects and looks up to her.
Dude, Undyne isn't a hero. She is irredeemable and evil. Why would Chara look up to someone who's clearly a bad person? I get they both want to kill humans, but really?
@@feralsol7262 she literally have enough honor to give a serial killer a fucking shield, instead of only killing them by one hit. Also, read her undying dialogues.
@@Javu7254 that's called making it a fair fight, other than that she literally wanted to finish that human for good.
@@Amritss664 Undyne is just following Asgore's policy to kill all humans in order to save their enitre people from an eternity of being trapped underground. Undyne isn't doing this out of some sick pleasure, literally read ANY of her lines during Pacifist/Neutral/Genocide batlles, she always states that she's doing this for either ''monsterkind'' in Pacifist/Neutral or for LITERALLY EVERYTHING THAT IS ALIVE AND EXISTS in Genocide.
if you want something to hate, hate those froggits and whimsuns who literally try to kill a defenseless child for no reason (they don't even follow asgore's policy).
@@TrulySomeone all the rest of the monsters that you encounter are also following asgore's orders (apart from a few) yet you can make them stop fighting you pretty quickly by just sparing, you literally can't even spare undyne. what you have to do is lead her into a hot lava bridge and then she'll spare you.
Friendly reminder that Chara's sweater is y e l l o w and g r e e n, and that justice and kindness souls are too
Yeah, and it's cool since they give the player justice
And Asriel Too Holy Shit
I think Frisk’s shirt has meaning too. It is purple and indigo. Which are the colors of the Perseverant and Integrity souls. I think the Purple represents the genocide route where you are perseverant in killing every monster. And the indigo represents the pacifist route where you save every monster and stand up for them.
oh yeah... you right
Or, alternatively, it's just a version of Frisk's shirt with one stripe and inverted colors. Not everything is symbolism.
*Sans tells jokes despite being depressed.*
I have never related so much to a cartoon skeleton.
*And that is my life!* **Crying and dying inside**
SAME!
Sans is not depressed, he doesn't care about life. There is a big difference.
I think Sans enjoys life more than anyone else, because he knows about the timelines and that, if he would die, everything will be resetted and everything will restart.
So he just doesn't care about his life choices.
Plus in the game there is no hint that he would be depressed
Sans wakes up after a reset I am super depressed 😂
There is literally a comment below this one that means the same thing ;-;
this has always been good but it aged extremely well in face of deltarune's new chapter. i don't know how else toby fox can hammer home this point. the villain is the player.
Only if they do the genocide run. Or if they true reset the game many time, taking from the monsters their happy end just to play again. But yes : Undertale has no villain, only the player can decide to play one.
@@nasch6572 you're 100% right!
The fandom just doesn't want to admit responsibility for their actions.
I think Deltarune fans are more understanding about this
@@kingofcrap4414 Irony.
Also, I feel like Flowey is a mirror for the player, I mean think about it: he’s not evil, he lacks a soul to feel any sort of emotion. And, the whole reason he killed everybody in the first place, is because he wanted to see something new. He states that he started being kind (much like the player) but, after getting all other endings, he decided to start killing everyone (just as the player did, :cry: I’m still salty about it)
Chara is the villain: smoll brain
We are the villain: normal sized brain
There’s no villain: big brain
Jerry is the villain: colossal brain
jerry
Fresno Mc Who’s Jerry?
DAC Studios jerry
DAC Studios he’s an enemy from Snowdin who everyone hates.
@@isislemons303 no the player makes chara evil by doing genocide
“Who’s the true villain”
Everyone points at chara
Chara: points at player
Player: snitch
*points at player too*
Player: who even are you to points at me
Me: I'm the smart one and the smart one tells the fact of truth-ness
Player: bruh
Me:* sees Jerry *
Also me: DDDIIIIEEEEE
Player: *casually points at Jerry*
* points at other players *
Yo can someone here make me in 3d so anyone you does no mercy I can kill
26:25
Also,”A Demon” is supposed to serve the devil,Chara serves you
You are the devil.
Not really, Chara is the player's partner, they said that themself.
The why does Chara go against what the player wants?
@@onlinetruth9979 If you mean right after they erased the world, they try to guilt trip the player into giving their soul to them. You didn't do this alone, you and Chara helped each other out in the genocide route, they tell you how many monsters there, stopping you from going further if there's monsters nearby and a lot more stuff. You help them by giving them influence over Frisk (by kills) and be a good partner to them but they need one important thing; your soul.
@@Joe98912 Chara is like “since when we’re you in charge” that doesn’t sound like someone who is serving you that’s my point
@@onlinetruth9979 Well, that only happens if you say no to them and it is kind of true, you have been following what they want and if you don't, they will simply call you a failure (that happens when you left Snowdrake alive) and stop the genocide run. They are the one in control in that route, when saying yes to erase the world, they won't say "Since when were you the one in control?" because you made the right choice. You are a great partner.
I've always interpreted Chara as exactly what they are: a child. I'll admit, they most likely not the most . . . normal kid. I'll go as far as to admit I think they're the type to not emotionally react to killing a spider. Weird, maybe a bit uncanny, but *NOT* the monster every damn person who has no sense of responsibility makes them out to be. The "creepy face" we see when they jumpscare the player and is mentioned in the tape that gives it its name is, in my own thought process, a minor manifestation of long-dormant human magic being reawakened by being around monsters, beings who are entirely composed of magic, for an extensive period of time. Not some kind of weird antichrist demon child ability. All in all, Chara is a misguided and easily influenced individual due to their young age who has a heart as golden as anyone else in Dremurr family.
Wait where is the face mentionned in the tape I'm interested
@@flyingstonemon3564 asriel asks chara to do their creepy face
@@roysparkizay Ohhh
@@LOL-vc7pi chara tripped on a vine you can see it in the opening of the game, maybe they were pondering it and slipped
@@flyingstonemon3564 its in true lab, i dont know the exact part, but you can watch true pacifist playtrough if you cannot or dont wanna play the game itself and go were is the amalgamates...
Chara: *Accidently puts plastic bottle in trash not recycle bin*
Undertale fandom: MURDERER!
"TOGETHER WE eradicated the enemy, WE became strong"
Me: Oh No SAVE THE TURTLES
Evreybody:*Throws Chara And Takes Out The Plastic Bottle*
CherryLovesDonuts lol
that you not her
*M U R D E R E R O F P L A N T S*
The "Abosule GOD of Hyperdeath!" and "the demon that comes when people call it's name" are just edgy 12 year olds calling themselves their OC's
That’s honestly one of my favourite parts of the game tbh.
omega flowe/asreall ummm did 9999 genisids is a FLOWER so no aige and killd his ones peruns is a ... bad ToMe
I'm using this joke from now on.
Lol
@@nicolaastley118 what the- do you even english
I feel like people don't give this video enough credit for basically shaping the Undertale community's perception of Chara
TRUE
Yeah. It’s a really nice little character analysis that might be old as hell. But.. yknow.
I don’t think we can ever really add much (besides the fact Deltarune cranking the *player is seperate from the character you play as* thing up to 10 - likely due to the fandoms reception of Chara being,, yknow.. remotely negative.)
Truest comment ever
One more thing I wanted to point out: When you give Chara your SOUL, that soul is filled with evil and corruption, due to you killing all of monsterkind. No wonder after a soulless pacifist route does Chara become evil. They were corrupted, by you.
honestly I think the whole "chara is the bad guy" thing is used to make people feel less guilty about what THEY did
Elliot F yeah it sucks
@@charadreemurr5121 i thought u basically never exsisted in genocidepacifist
Agreed
true...to bad chara KILLS the world anyways there no better...plus um the whole 'since when were you in control' really confuses people
Exactly! YOU were the one who chose to do gdnocide, Chara never forced you to kill anyone until sans. You could have stopped at any point but you didn't. And it's only when you're about to be killed by sans for the bajillionth time that chara saves your sorry ass and now they're the bad guy. Yeah, makes total sense.
18:19
'Flowey is the most like the player.'
Flowey: I told myself, 'I don't want to do this... but... I just HAVE to know what will happen.
Me: OH MY GOSH DID HE JUST READ MY MIND?!
Couldn't agree with this statement more.
Same
...
when you said
"But chara? Chara only killed one person... themselves"
you hit right where it hurts
I remember watching this video when i was much younger and in my undertale phase. Still holds up to this day and people calling Chara evil is still a pet peeve of mine
say that you're the absolute god of hyperdeath and no one bats an eye. say that you're a demon and everyone loses their minds
Nice meme
wow such a dark meme XD
Ayyyeeeee mabel
+Chara Dreemur IM CHARA
Chara ....ok.....
It amazes me how a player can actively make the decision to commit a mass genocide and STILL say
“I can’t believe Chara would do such a thing”
Ikr
Well, though obviously Chara doesn’t do it, I don’t agree with the player. Just my honest response, it’s not something I wish to start an entire comment war.
Ikr like Chara is basically the dead child helping you in what ever you do, so when ever the character acts on their own, it's not cuz Chara was evil the whole time, it's just they are meant to help you in what ever goal your persue and your LOVE corrupts them to be able to kill the ones they love without feeling as much
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They still bad in my personal opinion due to the other reasons but they are not bad cuz of the genocide run and I still dotn get why players just think its all on Chara lol
@@partygamingz3332 I mean, the blame IS actually 50/50
@@darrenaqilawangsech8652 on genocide Chara although I guess you can blame them for helping you on your genocide run but they legit also help you saving Asriel in the pacifist run...
They literally just help you in what you try to do and accomplish weather is killing or sparing so if you don't murder Chara wouldn't murder the monsters either so still most of the blame is still on the player
Chara is and will always would be my fav character 😭💕
they ain’t three or one dimensional, They’re two dimensional!!!!
honestly i feel that with the release of deltarune, especially chapter two, a lot of things about chara become a lot easier to interpret, considering that kris is basically their mirror in this alternate universe. obviously they don't have the exact same issues (eg kris grew up as the only human in a town full of monsters and felt alienated from them while chara was likely mistreated by humans and was cared for by monsters) but i feel like the way they act is incredibly similar. kris in deltarune isn't evil in any way unless we force them to be (see snowgrave, where it's basically spelled out that kris is not the one in control), they just misbehave. and it makes sense, they're an incredibly lonely teenager and it's heavily implied that asriel is the only positive presence in their current life, so they act up, as teenagers do. does that make them evil or irredeemable? i don't think so. i feel like it's the same with chara. they're just a young child that's been through a lot of pain and sometimes misbehaves and doesn't really understand the consequences of their own actions (and who knows how much that is even true, it's just the impression i gathered from the tapes and such). more than anything it makes them a well-thought out and compelling character, not a terrible villain. if you choose to play the no mercy run, that's on you.
Kris is not a version of chara at all, and I don't know where the f*ck you got that stupid information.
@@sayyidassons9332 What do you not understand? It's not that hard to grasp.
@@redtheraichu3938 Kris has red eyes, while Chara has brown eyes. Kris has yellow skin and brown hair while Chara has pale skin and red hair. Kris is identical to Frisk in terms of looks and personality, so I don't get why somebody would bring Chara into that.
@@sayyidassons9332
1) they wear almost, if not, the exact same clothing
2) To say Frisk and Kris act the same is subjective. If you ask me, Frisk acts nothing like Kris unless you do the Genocide route. And the genocide route is the only route where Chara makes an impact.
3) Where did you get your information that Chara has brown eyes? We never see Frisk's eyes in the games, and the only red eyes belonging to a human we see in the game is from Chara at the end.
@@redtheraichu3938 Their clothes are not similar, Kris is not a bad person like you so ironically assume, and Chara has brown eyes as shown in the mother fucking genocide route.
The fact that Toby reminded his characters that WE, the player, have the full choice and power makes it so heartbreaking and what makes undertale so good. It’s not because of the battles, or the Easter eggs. Rather the fact that undertale knows and records your every move
YOU HAVE MY PROFILE PIC!?!?!?
Imposter
*FIGHT FIGHT*
*MERCY MERCY* =)
@@Blue-dn8fs when the lightsaber is sus
"Papyrus-"
"..."
"..."
"..."
"Papyrus is free of sin. BuT Undyne-!"
*:/*
:/
"..."
*BUT THE FANDOM*
UnderTAIL.
AAHHEEM AHEM.
wow there bud
Papyrus beats the shit out of human children so he can get what he want
This is why chara is my favorite character. They’re pointed to be the villain, when they’re really just a kid who wanted a happy family
they can be both lol
@@catboytartagliaChara being the villian goes against the game
@@Deman-sc4rc How? I feel like them not being a villain actually takes away the point of the game
heavily reminds me of the influence kris has over the deer girl from deltarune. how kris says "proceed", the way frisk or the player forces chara to proceed as we murder all the monsters. when we dont kill berdly, she snaps out of it, and says "what was i thinking" similiarly to how sparing just ONE monster can save chara and the player from the slippery slope of genocide.
I'd like to think that the player is responsible for saying “Proceed” in Deltarune. Not Kris. Possibly toby trying to imply some glossed-over facts in Undertale at the same time.
Also, Kris doesn’t want to, Kris is Deltarune’s narrator, and most of the dialogue imply REALLY not wanting to do it
Also, if Kris is downed, proceed is still an option
Player: kills Toriel
Also player: “OMG Chara is sooo evil making me kill Toriel!”
@@ehxigdifstid r/woooooooosh
I dont think you get that this is a joke
@Baloo 2016 & Mangle ikr
No chara isnt evil your the player so your evil
rainbøwangel_blue _filipino getn’t it
both chara and frisk are evil
When you Said: everyone Can be a good person if they just try
That sounds like papyrus
It's also sans considering how he says the same thing in reference to him.
Oh yeah, maybe its because some stupid players decide that papyrus dying is beautiful.
Well, I love Papyrus..
I love his brother, Sans
To :))
@@bethwilkinson1891 I believe me suffering in the judgement hall is satisfying beautiful and majestic
I believe this theory to be true because it doesn't seem like a good idea to put a main antagonist in a game that is purely about the player's choices. Even Flowey, who has killed a lot of people and even the player a lot, is forgiven in the end.
Actually the game isn't about the players choices at all, as they are only in control for half of the game in either route.
@@sayyidassons9332 dude, a lot of factors play into the players choice
@@sirsponge9633 But that's not the point of the game, as Frisk is the one who makes the choices in canon.
@@sayyidassons9332 dude, you know the player plays as frisk right?
Wait why am I even arguing about this it doesn’t even matter
This is so good. I've always thought Chara was super misunderstood by the fandom.
I know right
Undertale players: *Does a Genocide run*
Also Undertale players: Why would Chara do this?
Sadly that's the true world
Me after seeing this comment: OMG am I dreaming? This is exactly what i've been wanting for years!
Also me few seconds later: peace was never an option to the Genocider!
I mean... Chara is supposed to be named after us so... technically we're both accountable. At least that's what I always thought.
Alex Baribeault no not at all, you name the fallen human your name and then you find out you got the answer wrong, the true name of the FIRST fallen human is chara, not the name of the protagonist during the play through.
Why is the played doing this*********
@@Femboy_Grey The canon name is Chara, but they can still be named whatever we want them to be.
frisk, in genocide run: stubs toe
the entire of the undertale fandom: oMg cHaRa sTuBbEd fRiSkS ToE
Okay, why would Chara posses Frisk's body at THAT MOMENT just to stub her toe?
No one says this. They say that Chara only cares about themselves, which they do. Chara only takes over Frisk when Frisk gives into killing. Yes, okay, you can use the bullshit excuse of the player. But no. That's wrong. Because Chara only shows up in the genocide route. Chara is a sad being. She may have had good intentions. But Chara takes advantage of Frisk.
@@mojorisin069 I bet you’ve posted this and something similar to this so many times on these comments
@@mojorisin069 that’s kinda the other way around if you’ve watched the video carefully the is the one who kinda just takes advantage of chara, as you can see chara is a easily influenced possible 10 year old anc if you’ve ever seen a child you would know that they are practically stupid n stuff so
@@bonez7175 umm, could you edit your comment? it seems you accidentally erased a part of it
Players: omg chara so evil!!!
Also them doing genocide run from curiosity: this fine
The picture at the end of a pacifist run with all the faces scribbled out seems to me like Chara reminding you of that time where you methodically when through them one by one killing them all.
or its them being actually just killing everyone as a reminder of the monster the player became. chara is representative of the genocidal player after all
@@catboytartaglia In genocide they’re representative of the player. In what I’ll call “heartless pacifist” Chara reminds you, the player, that you killed everyone. They remind you of the consequences YOU face for genocide, and as such, appear in the photo with everyone’s face crossed off. They’re reminding you that you killed them. Chara isn’t inherently evil. We cause them to be evil. I really hope this doesn’t become an argument.
@@anwd8646
chara doesn't completely blame the player. they also acknowledge their involvement and support of the genocide route.if chara is set on making the player see the consequences of their actions, why do they also support the genocide run, and encourage the player to carry it out?? it makes no sense.
Chara isn't inherently evil, but they are prone to violence, even from their past. Looking into Asriel's dialogue already proves as much. If you need me to explain this part, I will do so.
I'm not denying that the player is at fault for genocide at all. However, a lot of people fail to understand that Chara is as well. Chara explicitly STATES their involvement in the route and their encouragement of it. The player doesn't turn them evil, we simply give them an outlet for their violence.
@@catboytartaglia That… I agree with. We give Chara an outlet for their violence, they’re probably still very, very angry at humans for how they treated them. (I refuse to gender a character which has an unconfirmed gender) We give them an option to let that anger out, which leads to them being involved in the genocide route. Although they’re also key for the pacifist route too, as explained in the video.
The video almost said this, but I want to make it explicit: your feelings toward Chara demonstrate whether or not you actually learned the lesson of Undertale, which, at its core, is about forgiveness (the Pacifist route, anyway). The game lets you forgive everyone, whether explicitly (like after the Asriel fight where you choose "Forgive"), or by implication (like hanging out with Undyne after she tried to kill you). The issue is that there's no difference between a player who truly connects with and wants to forgive these characters and a player who wants to see the end of the Pacifist Run with no other motivation, gameplay-wise. You have to hang out with Undyne because that's the only way to see that ending. You have to choose "Forgive" when talking to Asriel because you might miss out on some dialogue otherwise.
But the game isn't affected by what you choose to think about Chara. Choosing to forgive or hate Chara doesn't change any of the content, or unlock any cutscenes or dialogue. Heck, the game never even *asks* you to forgive Chara, or implies that you should (like it arguably does when you save, say, Alphys). It just presents several stories of flawed characters, asks you to forgive them for various reasons, and then presents you with one final character before it just...ends. What you choose at that point is entirely divorced from the completionist mindset, and is purely up to whether or not you have learned what the game has tried to teach you, when there's literally no motive to do so other than the chance to grow more compassionate and forgiving as a person.
No stakes. No gameplay effect. No overt prompting. Just you.
I realize this video is almost five years old now and probably somewhere in the comments this point was made, but I couldn't find it so I put it in my own words.
good point.
thank you for this, this comment needs more recognition
No need to write an essay, I'm not reading it
I think people's thoughts on Chara might be different depending on they truly learned the lesson or not?
People who believe players are above anything and there are no consequences will more likely blame Chara, since they're the only Character who only appears in genocide route and has less info.
Sweet
* Equip the Heart Locket?
> yes no
* *Right where it belongs*
Ok
I'm not crying, you are
bad idea I mean the locket has a lot of sentimental value to chara and asriel/flowey
Yes
FLIPPINING INVISIBLE NINJAS CUTTING ONIONS >:'(
I always saw Frisk and Chara as two sides of development people go through when they play games. Frisk is an unnamed character, a player going through the neutral route(usually by killing Toriel not realizing you don't have to) never meant to step on anyone's toes and just wants to immerse themselves in the world. They remain player-named because they are you. In the true pacifist mode, when all is said and done the player character removes themselves from your given name and asserts their own name as Frisk. You as the player care about the story, so you give away some of your power over the characters to let them tell it. You've outgrown that weird and strange feeling of being in a new game.
Chara, who is still playernamed(only named Chara as default, YOU choose the name) is the final stage of development you go through. You've experienced the story, you loved the game, now it's time to dismantle it. 100% completion, grinding, seeing everything that needs to be seen just for the sake of seeing it. If you've read Umineko, Bernkastel's quote ''You can love a cat when it's alive, then you can tear it apart and eat its guts when its dead'' comes into mind here.
One major theme the game has that doesn't seem to get talked about much is you are often criticized for trying to exhaust every line of dialogue in the game you can. Asriel asks if you have nothing better to do if you keep trying to talk to him. Sans calls you out specifically, you just want to see things because you CAN, and that means you HAVE TO. The genocide run tries its best to throw you off of it, and you have to really try to stay on it, being an indiscriminate murderer is not the requirement for genocide, it's the ability to tolerate extreme levels of boredom just to see if there's any possible new scene or dialogue you can view for completeness sake. Flowy outright lampshades this if you keep meeting him in the endings, saying that you're just trying to exhaust every possible dialogue with him, then discard him like a used toy and refuses to give you what you want by never speaking to you again.
At this point, the player outgrows Chara, in the same way they outgrew Frisk. Grinding, money, EXP, power, that's no longer important, what's important is checking every nook and cranny the game has to offer. When you keep repeating Genocide runs, Chara realizes this ''But we are not the same, are we?'' is a question they pose after their spiel on gaining power. Chara knows you just want to see something new, and you're only doing the genocide route not because you're an evil killer, but because you're curious if anything new will happen. So Chara suggests you try another route, not to make you feel guilty or anything, simply to give you what you want.
So I guess what I want to say is that Chara and Frisk are more of a symbol of us, the players, rather than good or evil. We're not a seperate entity from them, rather they both represent two sides of us when we play games.
Exactly, I am kinda tired of people who says that Chara or the player is evil. Nobody is evil, and our actions have consequences.
Chara is Grey and just learns from you in a way. Sees you kill everyone, you went too far. Spare all, you're good. White text describes things, but red text is specifically Chara talking to YOU.
When calling themselves a demon, Chara uses whatever name the player put them.
Remember how Toby Fox said you should put it your own name?
Welp.
=_=
Best thing to do:
name chara : You
At the end, Asriel will say:
"You arent you, are you?"
@@thewarlock8487 Better edit the save file and name the human Frisk. He'll be like
"You aren't Frisk, are you? What's your name?
-Frisk."
100% awkwardness guaranteed.
Characters in Undertale: Player how many more Genocide run will you play?
Player: *YES*
@Jupiter King if you name chara frisk then it will be on hard mode and hard mode is not finished
Short Answer: You. You chose to have a bad time.
**Megalovania intensifies**
You feel your sins crawling on your back.
Me: *sees Sans in fight form*
Also me: *puppy whimper* Oh god no
Miley The Galaxy wolf owo you feel everyone crawling on your back
You feel karma running through your veins.
I would interpret the final „jumpscare“ moment with Chara as them attacking us rather than destroying the world.
when i first saw genocide i thought that the played attacked chara
People say that the point of chara failed but I think the point was for us to blame chara. Chara is what the narrator says a “scapegoat” it’s an example of how humans are even worse when you play the game you realize that their kind of right about humans we assume immediately that chara is evil and not frisk because we can never blame ourselves for anything
Chara expects it and doesn’t go against it because they are a child and don’t realize what’s happening
Maybe theyre a child who, before falling, was a scapegoat even then
"Sans tells jokes despite being depressed-"
*_Ah, so that undertale app wasn't lieing._*
@@jenna8091 I mean he does remember when you kill his brother. So....
@@jenna8091 In the genocide run he literally goes into full detail of why he thinks life is pointless and everything is fixed and no matter what he do he'll always fail and everyone he loves will always die
I'm depressed too (:
@@jenna8091 but*
Nope...
In fact, I have a reminder for myself. It says
“Treat each reset with enthusiasm”
Try to guess where that leads...
I think Chara was meant to be a red herring. Creepy scenes, disturbing dialogue, makes you think they are the villian. Until you look a little deeper and realize Chara is the one influenced by *our* actions.
except they arent? they are the one in the sotry making frisks actions
@@my.melody.gaminggno they ain't bro you chose to Kill everyone bud it ain't a individual game if the player can't choose to spare, if you do a genocide run get what? It's your fault frisk and Chara kills
@@Ash9o11 that’s literally a lie and you have no idea how story games work
@@my.melody.gaminggno u
@@my.melody.gamingghave you even played the damn game
This makes a whole lot of sense seeing as how Chara is supposed to be the narrator. What i never understood was the whole Sans hating Chara thing seen in the fandom, Chara didn’t even get revived before the Sans fight, only after Flowey gets absolutely destroyed. Nor did they possess Frisk. Frisk acted on their own. Hell, Sans wouldn’t exactly trust Flowey all too much, but not indiscriminately hate him for just being THERE. Nor Chara either. While i think it was bizarre and fairly grim of Sans to threaten Frisk with death during that one scene, another commenter once said that he was just warning Frisk of what the other monsters would have done if not for his watchful eye.
Outside of that, this is quite the refreshment from the evil Chara stereotype seen in various comic dubs, and goes into a vast amount of detail about their character as a whole, no pun (possibly) intended.
Nah, chara is not inocent or evil, just neutral in general
It's me, Chara. Espejo de la casa de. Toriel.
Honestly, Chara’s character is a great example that you cant go back on your actions once they’ve been committed. A HEAVY theme in the game of Undertale. I also have proof to support the evidence.
When Chara poisons themself, Asriel only regrets the plan when he KNOWS she will die.
She scolds you at the end of the genocide run and asks weather or not you think you are above consequences, after you killed everyone there ARE consequences that can’t be reversed. NO. MATTER. WHAT.
Chara is one of the few characters that KNOW your actions have consequences I.e. the genocide run.
She’s part of the Bad Time Trio for crying out loud! You know, those 3 that STOP YOU from completing a genocide run.
Not many people choose to put themselves in Chara’s shoes.
A depressed human who climbed a mountain to commit scuicide, by a miracle they survive, taken in by a family. And decides that it’s right to give up their life and SOUL to their brother. And tried to save him only to get HIM killed. If you think about it, Chara’s character is an example of what I believe the main message of the game is: “All actions have consequences.”
I. Rest. My. Case.
Helluva case. Considering the relatively fresh comment, think you could help me figure one thing out? I'm confused about how simultaneously Chara is the one in control AND the player is the one doing terrible things. I get that the player is the one bringing DETERMINATION and making choices but then how is Chara in control? In control of Frisk, perhaps?
@@hugofontes5708 How it works is that Chara can’t reach a physical form until you reach LV 20. As your giving them the LV you gain, they cannot gain control, reset the timeline, and be happy again, they need you to reach LV 20 so they can gain control. Especially as you can’t actually get the timeline reset unless you give Chara your SOUL. Most choices that Chara controls occur after LV 20 is achieved. It puts their name on the stats menu for crying out loud. They gain control once your at LV 20.
@@DrentheIsDead I see, than you. I never did genocide, heck I never went to kill anyone on purpose. But it is really sad that Chara can only really come back and act after you go and kill everybody.
I can erase the save file and all my consequences will disappear.Good night fans of this game
@@yalovoyhznepomny Another moral of the story is that you need to be open to change. To learn something. The genocide route is hard not as a challenge, but as another reason to avoid it. Erasing the save file has consequences, you don't learn. In the real world, there is no way to avoid all consequences, and by trying to in the game, you refuse to learn that.
Fan comics: Unfortunately for you, history will not see it that way.
Snowfall Comic: NOPE
@@DawnAnew Chara: "Nope nope nope. I'm going to the land of Nope."
Heh
chara is just a innocent child just like frisk, the evil one here is the player.
@Nadira Sakura But Chara isn't good either.
So basically, the scenes of the Post-Genocide Pacifist Run where Chara appears is them saying: "I know what you did to them last time."
Pretty much
@@LucarioBot post genoside but dony stay with toriel
@@zaineoakley5555 think you meant don’t stay with toriel
Yep.
Essentially just her proving you aren't "above consequence"
Essentially reminding you that just because you reset the world and did what was right isn’t gonna make you a good person, since you’re essentially the same heartless killer on the inside
Lowkey seems like Deltarune's second chapter confirmed this theory, with how many parallels the Snowgrave route has to Undertale's Genocide route.
seems highly unlikely, since the game of undertale disproves this theory in itself
@@catboytartaglia XD, so true.
I always find myself coming back to watch this video. It's so good, and it really opened my eyes the first time I watched it. I hope everyone can be able to truly understand Chara's character, because even to this day, I find people who claim they're the villain.
I think we all know who the REAL villain is... Jerry.
dat asshole, I knew it.
Daaaaaaaaaamn your right
Ayyyyyeee
I KNEW DAT SCRUB WAS IT
Despite everything, no one can forgive Jerry
I just realized something. Determination is more than just determination to win, or to stay alive. It’s determination of the fate of the world.
Read n Wikipedia what is determinism. A really interesting concept! I think it was what toby meant, because, well, frisk decides to what timeline to go
My phone case says "Stay Determined!" With your soul shown in Undertale
I'm pretty sure it's determinism, basically, of you're a determinist, you believe there is a Universal track and everyone has to follow it, kinda like the pacafist route, you literally can't kill the amalgams or Asriel. When it says "You're filled with DETERMINATION" it means you're filled with the Determination to continue on the path you chose. That being pacafist, neutral, and genocide.
Watching this video makes me think of the Snowgrave Route from Deltarune Chapter 2. I think I see some similarities between Chara and Noelle: they aren't in control of the situation but instead left at the mercy of the player to either become better people or changing for the worse. Although it's left more ambiguous in Undertale, it becomes more clear in Deltarune that the player is the true villain by manipulating a character and pushing them to the limit.
Chara was torn between compassion for monsters and hatred for humans. It's up to the player and their action to determine how Chara will develop. With kindness and mercy they will help to get a happy ending and overome their hatred. But the genocide route explores an even darker territory. Chara never fully overcame their trauma regarding humans and were once again met with hostility and violence when Asriel absorbed their soul and came to the human village. Once again Chara was unable to fight back because Asriel refused to harm anyone. Now Chara is stuck with Frisk who (unlike Asriel) fights back and shows no sympathy for anyone. This puts Chara in the opposite role because now they aren't the victim of abuse anymore but in the body of the abuser. This creates a feeling of safety and the thrill of finally being the one in control. Not needing to fear abuse anymore is addictive and corrupts them even further to the point where Chara goes completely insane and even betrays Frisk, believing they're completely unstoppable. It's the classic scenario "the victim becomes the abuser".
THIS WAS 7 YEARS AGO???? I remember this video and I’ve never seen Chara the same since
I thank you very much for this :)
Imagine being the king of monsters and highly respected only to receive a shirt from you child saying Mr. Dad Guy
Sounds like the total package to me
Huh. Neat.
It's wholesome though.
I would love it so much. Yes, child, I'm your dad ! And that's great !! :D
I mean… what were you expecting? A statue?
Excuse me, I mercied because
1. I can’t kill goat mom
2. I can’t kill papyrus
3. Seeing sans sad hurts me
4. I can’t hurt Undyne
5. Monster kid sad hurts me
6. Not seeing alphys hurts me
7. I can’t kill the royal guards
8. I can’t kill Mettaton
9. I can’t kill asgore
10. I can’t kill flowey
11. I want to hang out with papyrus
12. I want a hug from goat mom
13. I wanna make spaghetti
14. I love you alphys, let’s watch anime
15. Mettatons fight is so fun and I love the ending
16. THE SINGING STATUE
17. I love goat dad
18. Biggest reason of all, *_I WANNA HUG AZZY_*
The reasons are correct but this is a joke, I already liked chara but this made me love her even more no hate on this video
Number 8 and 3: exists
Me: WELL I SURE HOPE THAT'S TRUE D:
Haha...I wanted to do genocide to see monster kid suffer, I hate that disgusting thing
@@withadreamofyou I don't really care about his character but why do u think MK is disgusting ;(( in my opinion, he looks really cute! :D
@@okbye.3571 he felt like onion-San all over again. Just bugging you the whole time.
@@withadreamofyou dude that's messed up bro
this is why the kris is evil theories from when chapter 1 was around falls apart instantly
He just wants the player out.
@@swordofstabbingold yeah
@@swordofstabbingold*they
12:58 That’s right!! you know how in the snow grave run we keep telling Noelle to proceed that’s action is from us not kris
*Frisk, the door is **_that_** way.*
{ S u n s e t a e s t h e t i c } *i knew that*
@@freeziebreezie *sure you dId*
{ S u n s e t a e s t h e t i c } *trust me...*
Got to get that yellow credit on the wall
I knew dat
*"Do you think I forced THEM to commit genocide?"* - Chara from Glitchtale
That is the time I realize that they were right. We were the one who started it. No one ever forced us.
Honestly I wish peoples understood that becasue the player is evil doesnt mean Chara isn't.
Nice you watch glitchtale
@@philguer4802 Yeah but in the normal game they aren't evil. We just start that thought.
Zombie Killer wasn’t chara the one who laughed at asgore almost dieing
@@youthoughiwasanamebutitwas8263 but didnt they just say laughing could also be a way to hide pain?
I 100% completed Undertale today, started with a pacifist/normal run, then I went back and did the side quests and got thr true pacifist, and after everything, I completed the genocide run.
I had some questions about the Chara character, which nobody seemed to answer, except yours, thank you. This video was absolutely amazing and so informative and beautiful.
To be honest, you shouldn't rely on this video solely to figure out their character. There's a lot of stretched information in this video and it misses a lot of parts of Chara's character.
I'm very late to the party, but yesterday was the first time I completed Undertale's pacifist run. I don't want to do a genocide run, so I've just been looking up CZcams videos about what happens. I really like your positive interpretation of Chara's character. It seems to be more in line with the themes of the game than them being a crazy sociopath. That interpretation made me uneasy because it made me wonder if the true pacifist run meant anything. So I'm glad I watched this video and got another interpretation of what Chara is.
hey you're like me! i dont think i can ever do a genocide run, hell even a neutral one
@@veeasaurus My first run was a neutral run. While I was aware of the pacifist run, I wasn't fully aware of the game's mechanics. I killed Toriel because I didn't know how to spare her...same with Undyne. I killed some monsters to gain some levels because I felt I had to. I voluntarily stopped when I felt I was powerful enough, and I realized there were a lot of fun scenes using ACTs that I was missing out on. I feel like the pacifist run only really means something if you fucked up a bit during your first run and genuinely want to do better the second time.
Most Genocide Players be like:
Genocide Players: **shoots up a school**
Genocide Players: Why would Chara do this?
polostokeley hahaha (thats not funny at all)
Mia 679
no it is, dark humours great
@@xrandom_personxxx427 well, it's the truth, we, the players are the only ones responsible for the genocide run, yet there are many moments where we're given a choice to stop and show mercy, papyrus, glad dummy, monster kid, all of them can be spared from the beginning, but WE choose to kill them because we WANT the bad ending
WOW! SCHOOL SHOOTING IS SO FUNNY. HAHAHAHAHAHA, fuck you.
@@xrandom_personxxx427
*I guess I have an edgy sense of humor then.
*It's hilarious.
Chara: let's erase this world since you killed everything.
Everyone: IT WAS CHARA, I SAW HER VENT
XD
Chara is evil
@@Sei5715 y s I did and u r all wrong
@@isislemons303 Shut up man, everyone knows that you're wrong. Stop spamming replies to every comment in this damn video lmfao
@@isislemons303 well I mean like, were the one who choose genocide, neutral or pacifist, and NOT Chara. Soooooo you (the player) was actually the villain behind genocide.
7 years later I have realized that the weird route where you tell Noelle that the only way to solve anything is violence to the point of her eventually just going along with it, was probably Toby trying to tell what this video says, to the Chara haters. And I like that :).
You no i can't help thinking if Chara felt the same as Noel in the snowgrave route dit it makes me Sad poor kids😭
Wow. Before this I didn't even realize Sans was depressed.... that explains a lot.... and Chara.... that's messed up...
Wow.... undertale secretly hints at depression... jesus...
(Thx for de likes❤)
Wat? I actually got a like? Thanks.
What’s weirder is it’s 10+
Anime Toast and when it shows omega flowey it is very "child friendly"
The True Villian of Undertale is the fandom.
the true villain are the hoomans
well that's...that's some deep shit right there.
The true villian is Jerry
+Relaka Lmfao.
Exactly... Well, those who blame Chara for the genocide run..
The killer is the player Chara has no fault
as someone else pointed out, the colors of chara and frisk's clothes correspond to the other souls
chara - yellow (justice) and green (kindness)
frisk - blue (integrity) and purple (perserverence)
there's no way its a coincidence
its ironic part of frisks outfit is integrity yet we continually use chara as a scapegoat
@@Data-Expungeded No one's using them as a scapegoat. The genocide would be pretty frustrating to beat without them. (They count the monsters left in the area for you. Without that may people would have to watch a walkthrough to progress in it) While they didn't start the genocide, they still encouraged it and even made Frisk stop from progressing until they met the kill count.
my interpretation has always been that chara was never malevolent but still harbored a shard of resentment deep within. by going through the genocide route you strip everything from them except for that resentment leaving only pure unfocused hatred to fill the void you created
"sans tells jokes even if he's deppresed"
Same bro same
Cybernetics cant fix depression kid . . . my metal ass is way to old for fighting yet, im the hardest boss in undertale and one of the hardest in terraria
@{•Kitty m 99•} wait I just realized how many likes this has thank u lol
Ur username
@@zoxsxi yes
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When you think about it, chara and monster kid are the only characters who aren’t child-killers.
What about alphys, all the shopkeepers, and the npcs you see while walking around?
Actually undyne never fought a human before frisk and her one specific line “Alphys told me humans were strong, let’s put that to the test” (can’t remember the exact words-)
@@smolamericanbean9120 She said "Alphys told me humans were determined...
I see now what she meant by that!". Maybe it's the first human with a red soul she has fought, which have more determination (including the power to save, etc).
The way she worded it might imply she has fought humans before, but this is the first time she has seen this level of determination.
@@Smitology yeah. And remember Undyne has determination so she never saw any determination the has surpass her
Deltarune supports this theory even more, showing that the player is in control, not frisk/kris
Technically, you're right, but in Deltarune, the player is not the MAIN villain, which is the difference between the games.
@@sayyidassons9332 Curious, who or what do you think is "the knight" in Deltarune? Your comment got me thinking, but there's a non-zero chance that "the knight" is a vengeful Chara ghost from a genocide Undertale run...as much as people want to deny that Chara is involved. Then again, I fail to see why Chara would stop at opening dark fountains and causing general mischief, which is the most we've seen in Deltarune so far.
@@sayyidassons9332 nah the player in deltarune is toats the main villain
I do believe that, in life, Chara was likely probably a flat out bad person, perhaps due to you know the cycle of abuse. However, undertale has big themes of people who've done bad things not being evil or irredeemable, and asks you to forgive people who do increasingly worse things to you. The last couple bosses in the game are Asgore and Flowey/Asriel, one has(probably) killed 6 children and planned to get revenge on humanity, and the other seems practically irredeemably evil throughout. And yet... no one in undertale is really evil, that's a big point of the game.
I believe that, much like how the genocide route is you doing the absolute wrongest thing you could in this situation, it is also robbing Chara of their chance to redeem themself and become a better person in death. You make them "stronger", and more morally corrupt, by having them gain more Execution Points and a higher Level of Violence. They become the only in-game entity which could be classified as evil... and it's all your doing.
The pacifist route is not only you doing what needs to be done to be a true hero, but also allows Chara a chance at heroism as well and is their redemption. This whole situation is their fault, and we're helping them fix it the best they can.
I think this is because Chara is the player avatar while also being their own character, hence being able to be named and the default/true name. You decide how they'll be, by how YOU play. How they react to what happened to them, what's happening to them now. You're their eternal partner, their fate is also in your hands. I think this is also why it's kept ambiguous, why it's able to be argued about to begin with. How you perceive them is up to you, as well.
They're your "character". Treat them well, please.
EDIT: Also despite what I said, I think the ending of the genocide route is maybe a bit TOO meta honestly and it shoulda been dialed back a but... and despite THAT, "You think you are above consequences." is probably my favorite line in the game, any game, or any piece of fiction in general. If Kris says that at any point in deltarune I'll declare it an immediate 11/10 Best Game of All Time.
Hot damn.
What you don't seem to understand is that forgiving people has no importance in Undertale, and that Asriel is not Flowey.
@@sayyidassons9332 don’t you get to forgive Asriel in the end of pacifist though? And Flowey IS Asriel, since he becomes Asriel when he gets all the monster souls
@@birdboy16 Since the soul is the culmination of your being, that means Flowey doesn't have the thing that made Asriel who he was. Asriel loved and borderline admired Chara, but Flowey sees Chara as a simple Allie in genocide. They don't act the same, and Flowey doesn't have the original thing that wouldn't make him Asriel. Also, Asriel and reincarnation Asriel have different shirts to symbolize the fact that they aren't the same.
@@sayyidassons9332 Flowey and Asriel don't act the same because Flowey has no emotions, but that doesn't mean that they aren't the same person. Even in his flower form, Asriel admires Chara and is even willing to abandon his plan to absorbs the souls that Asgore has hidden just to spend surface life together with Chara (as he says in genocide), though he still acknowledges that he can't truly care about Chara due to being soulless. Even his "kill or be killed" mentality is something he adopted not only because he was soulless but also as a result to being killed by the humans in the village, so it's clear that the Flowey we see and the Asriel who was killed by the humans are the same person, except he now has a distorted view of the world due to his current conditions and his past experiences.
"No one is Undertale is irredeemable"
Undyne: Hold my spear.
(No, letting the main character burn down your house and then being a terrible "friend" to them doesn't count as a redemption, fish from hell. I don't hate Undyne, she's my favorite character, but I'm tired of people seeing her as good when she's clearly a villain.)
There's a difference between No-Mercy and Genocide
No Mercy: Killing all the monsters you encounter.
Genocide: Hunting monsters down and killing them with the intention of their extinction.
tru
This is an old-ish video, and mind you i'm not sure because i'm new to the fandom but i read something that made me think that the genocide route used to be called no mercy runs when the game was new
Skeletal Destroyer 11 no
No mercy: you don't grind or it is also Nuteral
Genocide:kill everybody grind and just keep killing and grinding in a certain place until there is nobody left in that area
Skeletal Destroyer 11 I ran a no mercy run, not a genocidal run first
No Mercy could also be hunting monsters down. No mercy is just not hesitating or thinking about a person you're about to kill
**You realize that it wasn't Chara holding the knife the whole time: it was you*
not even enchanted! what kind of trash is this?!
@@powerthunfischdesdonners3086 wth don't call it trash! Maybe the player it's the evil one here.
@@powerthunfischdesdonners3086 shut up will ya?
@@Rasyleaf says the one who doesnt get a minecraft reference
@@mr.krokie9467 WELL THIS AINT MINECRAFT
The fact that this game is created by ONE PERSON and created so many things we should know... knowing this made me stunned and Toby Fox himself is a true genius of storytelling
Genius of storytelling? Ahahahahah... Plot in Undertale sucks for many reasons
@@yalovoyhznepomnypeople like you make me lose faith in humanity😊
no 2 toby and temmie
@@yalovoyhznepomny I would see what like to see what you would to lil bro
I should point something out. Their words when they confront the player, after a Genocide route, are filled with double-speak. They clearly intend for you to think one thing, and then mean something completely different. Chara is very clever,, after all they're the Narrator and they know how to avoid topics or mean other things (Hence why their identity is so well hidden that it takes context clues just to figure it out).
After the Geno, after killing Flowey, they confront you in the Combat Screen and talk about their roles. How they're the ones that get stronger with the stats (we've been using their stats instead of Frisk's, so they've been acting as a buffer between our Choices and the Consequences there of--in Pascifist Runs, this would be to guide Frisk, in Neutral runs this is to encourage Frisk, in Genocide Runs this would be to Protect Frisk, bit like a Yugioh Possession)
That They're the Demon that comes when we call their name...
Here's the kicker: We didn't convince them of anything save that we're a monster.
Remember, I said that their words are filled with Double-Speak. They're not ending the World... they're ending Our World--as in, Us. Its explicitly shown in UT that it takes Souls to true rewrite anything, and we only have the one, albeit a very determined one. We can't rewrite anything but our own choices when we RESET.
As its shown, they're aware after death because of the nature of their existence now--and since they're attached to Frisk's body too, they're aware of Frisk's body when it dies.
Why do I say that?
Because Chara attacking us wasn't them destroying the world-- They were "Erasing" it, like how Flowey said that Chara was attempting to Erase themselves by climbing Mt Ebott. They wanted to "Move on from this World" (Move on from Us, or Move on as in Die).
All words that have a double-meaning, because we're a monster and we're not going to give control without convincing or something.
Meaning, they took control from us, taking Frisk's Soul (So ultimately cutting our control out of everything), and then doing what Chara has already done--committed Suicide.
If we refuse, they take momentary control and do it anyway. But with Frisk's soul, they can force us to do a better ending, and then all the while, they can protect Frisk and Escape the Underground and leave us behind.
Because we're the only monster now. The only explicit evil that Chara must face, trap, and leave behind for a better life. Any hatred they may have for others, would drop in favor of simply hating us.
Toby: *who kill everyone?*
Fandom: *point at chara*
Player/frisk: *point at chara*
Toby: w r o n g
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I always have 2-10 likes (rarely 100+)
Toby: chara who killed everyone
Chara:point at fandom
toby fox:RIGHT! Take a chocolate for prize.
(Also frisk is only being controled by the player so is just the players and the fandom look at deltarune chapter 1 ending and you will undestand)
@@deividrodrigues9424 oof
Toby who is a killer frisk I dunno sans no one pupyrus no bodey
Asgore not me I hope undyne no one chara me hahahaha IL kill you all all gets killed bye chara
points at Jerry
XD
Chara has always been my favourite character 😊
Aniashmania you mean favorite CHARA-cter
Ya she is my favorite CHARActer too
I always want Chara to kill everyone😅
they are my second favorite CHARA-cter
They are one of my favorite CHARActers.
If you try logging into undertale after a true pacifist run, Flowey says something like *you* have the power of resetting, and also says, “Leave Frisk on the surface” heavily implying that Chara has no say in whatever happens
Actually, Flowey was talking to Chara or whatever name you named them. And if Asriel doesn't expect Chara to not let Frisk go, that says something about them, if they were a good person by everyone saying here, why would Asriel, the one who knows them the best expects Chara to not let go and reset the whole timeline and I'm not saying that Chara is the one who's resetting, it's us who does it. If we don't let go, Chara won't either and if we do let go, Chara will. But it's Chara who is wanting us to "True Reset".
23:51 he actually says the players name. In this case the player named themselves chara, so that’s what he said, but no matter how you name your character he’ll call you appropriately. The reason it’s like this is because the flowey wants to convey that he isn’t referring to your character, he’s referring to the player. As he says a few lines before “let frisk live their life happily”. He’s not trying to get the character to preserve the world, he’s trying to stop the player from relentlessly deleting the file and doing it over and over again. He just wants the characters to live in peace, happily ever after
@@michaelc.8712 huh, didn’t know that. If that’s so, then how do we know that ghaster s name isn’t chara and charas name isn’t ghaster?