Should Moms Stay At Home? | Middle Ground
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We need a "Kids raised by working moms VS kids raised by stay at home moms" I'm sooo curious to know what their opinions and results are
I was raised by a stay at home mom until age eight. I see it as a privilege. I’d love to have that opportunity but doubt that it will be possible for me and I think that’s ok. It’s a luxury to stay home for eight years and my family was lucky.
I would want to be a working mom. But we were raised by a stay at home mum and in my social circle o can definitely tell the difference between the two groups. So I love the dynamic of the stay at home mom and the kids so I'm conflicted about the decision when I finally decide to have kids. I loved knowing that mom was home or close by during the day or when I came home from school, high school or university. I just felt so secure.
@@niawohl3377 I totally agree. It's very conflicting especially in this economy. I loved knowing my mum was home. Even at 32 I feel so secure going home and knowing she's always around.
@@mercynamikoye9084 this is so beautiful! thank you for feeling comfortable in sharing that with me. I love hearing peoples stories and perspectives on things.
@@niawohl3377 that's beautiful! thank you for sharing !!
To the lady that lost her husband to suicide, my heart goes to you. Stay strong.
yeah but that's not what the question asked
@@coolorphans I don’t think that's funny.
@@askosefamerve People eat the cake differently. It may not have been funny but it is most probably the reason he killed himself lol.
@@coolorphans you're so sad it's embarrassing
@@coolorphans Suicide isn’t a joke buddy
Make a ''Childfree by choice women vs Mothers'' episode, pls. I'm sure there are many of us who are conflicted about motherhood and would love to hear both sides.
That would be interesting!
Yes! I definitely want to hear from older women who decided to not have children especially.
Yesss 100%
I would love to see this, and even be part of it! I spent a long time trying to figure out if I wanted to be a mother or not.
Even if a pregnancy was planned, no person is ready for motherhood. You will be conflicted after you see two lines. Thats just how it is.
Every mom was so kind understanding thoughtful and non-judgmental. A very wholesome and eye opening episode
Yep. Change the show name from middle ground to club therapy
So true
Yes, this is how it should be. And i wish mom groups were like this. we could all use this kind of support
@M M so true, being a mom has made me so empathetic towards everyone.
I agree. I respect them all.
I'm German and I feel so lucky that we get a minimum of 1 year of maternity leave. I'm not a mother yet, but I can't imagine how hard it is to go back to work after such little time and having little to no support.
Smh 🤦🏿 right America is crazy. We have same thing here in Canada 🇨🇦
@@mattlol163 Or it just means woman can choose to have a break or not in democratic countries like Germany and not like 3rd world countries like Am*rica.
@@mattlol163 U know it's also possible for the father to take the year off, doesn't have to be the mom.
@@mattlol163 I thought america is all about freedom. Why dont they give women the freedom to choose?
@@mattlol163 Your "huge safety net" is a joke compared to Germany or Scandinavia. Btw, men here get the same amount of paid paternity leave.
I think women (and men) should have the choice of if they want to stay at home or not. Somehow staying at home has become looked down upon which is the exact same problem in reverse. Choices people choices.
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imagine watching this video unironically
I told my girlfriend the same thing last night it doesn't matter who stays at home or goes to work as long as bills are being paid and the house stays clean. It doesn't matter
People forget that's What feminism is truly about. This is what freedom in a first world country is truly about. We are our biggest barrier when it comes choice and ability.
Men don't have the choice in large part sbd its just how it is. Work or be homeless
You should do stay at home dads vs working dads next!
That would be a interesting one ngl
Hell yeah!
that would be especially interesting because we don't usually hear from the stay st home dads side
omg yes!
YES!
This video is proof that ALL mothers need support systems regardless of whether they work or stay home. Shout out to these women and all of the others who make it work despite the lack of support.
Same for fathers there was as much single fathers
Or just people need support
Thank you ❤
So True. Parents in general male or female need support
Very true, but both mother and fathers need support. This is not always the case but it should be that both parents are taking care of the child so both are in need of that support. Not just the mother because she is the only one doing the work.
Everyone's situation is different. Being a stay-at-home mom or dad requires diligence, much like any other position.
HELLO!!! I want to spend time with celebrities. Just kidding. GAGAGAGAGA! I only want to spend time with my two girlfriends and record videos for CZcams with the 3 of us. OH YEAH. Don't hate me for living the best life, dear ci
@@AxxLAfriku ok
No it doesn't. They just lay on the bed waiting to get fucked while the dad does all of the heavy lifting.
@@coolorphans Ok, so for the kids...who changes the diapers? Who bathes the kids? Who dresses them? Who feeds them breakfast? Who makes their lunches? Who drives them to and from school? Who helps them with their homework? Who takes them to their playdates and extracurriculars and doctor's appointments and clothes shopping? For the house...who does the laundry? Who washes the dishes? Who vacuums and mops? Who washes the windows? Who makes the dinner? Who tends the garden? Who does the grocery shopping? If not the mother, then who?
Stay at home father;-;
I'm in law school (24 yrs old), and I know 100% I want to have kids. However, I cannot wrap my brain around how I am going to have a career with notoriously long work hours while raising children. I mean.,. I have two cats and leaving them is hard. My mom worked my whole childhood and got home at 8pm everyday. I missed her, but I think that's why I'm so ambitious and independent. It's a double edged sword. What this video and my own experience working in law has taught me is that we NEED maternal leave. Not just for 8 weeks, but for 4 months at LEAST. Babies and mothers shouldn't be separated within two months of birth, and I wish our country prioritized women and children for where we didn't have to do that.
Exactly maternity and paternity leave should be legal everywhere. I'm from the England and I recently found out the US doesn't have automatic paid maternity leave and was absolutely shocked. Also I wanted to say that it may be struggle with your career but you CAN have both, perhaps your partner can help or family/ a nanny. Don't sacrifice your career after working so hard
Yeah here in Québec (Canada), we have at minimum 6 months maternity leave. I took the year one (the second option). I cannot fanthom any less than that. At 2 months, the baby isnt sleeping full nights as they have no circadian rythm to tell the difference between night and day! They dont make the difference before four months. Going to work exhausted.... Not a goal!!!!
For moms in france its 4 months, dads 1 month or so, not much but we work less
You have a guy name you're not even a girl
@@coolorphans alex is also a womans name atleast in america
The story about the lady being pressured into an abortion broke my heart. Lots of women are pressured into it by their partners and it's something that I dont think is talked about enough
No teen should be allowed to give birth, no matter how much the teen wants the child.
@@Ascension1004 it’s their choice if they want to have it not yours
@@miapalacios2641 why would you force an innocent child to suffer just because you want a baby? Children don't need to be raised by children
@@Ascension1004 there is always adoption
@@InLoveWithLife43vr so why are there nearly 500k children in foster care still waiting to be adopted?
In case Megan sees this.. my mom lost my father when she was pregnant with her third child (miscarried unfortunately) and I wanted to let you know that even though my sister and I have hard times every once in a while, I am incredibly proud of how we were raised and she raised two strong and independent women ❤️
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@@armaniking7015 tf you laughing at
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Aliyah's relationship seems not very healthy. He talks down to her, tells her what she has to be a SAHM and she feels like she's missing something. That something is the ability to choose for herself. I hope everyone leads a happy life, but I hope she sees that she can do more if she wants to.
He better mend his ways now or else that relationship will not last
All moms are working whether they go outside or not.
lmfao no ? you dont just work because youre a mom
@@thenman23 uh yes you do 😭 literally just being a mom is a really hard job itself
THIS!!
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@@thenman23 do you think stay at home moms just lay in bed all day? Lmaoo it’s 100% a job and arguably harder than most
Before I had kids...I never dreamed of leaving my career for a kid. I knew I wanted to work....BUT then I actually became a mom and everything changed. Even my husband who always said he wanted a working mom/wife ..he even mentioned it before I ever did...that there was NO WAY we could ever leave our infant/child to anyone else.
Never say never ladies... Because you don't know how you'll feel once you have your kid. And don't feel shameful for choosing one or the other.
100% yes! I was always super Independent and going through my first trimester I went through so much emotionally, mentally, and physically I knew I needed my husband to get through it. Pregnancy and motherhood definitely changes you as a person.
why can't mom and dad take turns staying home?
@@thispersonrighthere9024 this is actually what my husband's parents did. They're both nurses and while he and his brother were in school his parents took turns working part time. While that sounds like a great idea in theory it won't work for everyone, for example my husband is in the military and I'm an rd-working part time or switching who works wouldn't work for us.
@@thispersonrighthere9024 wow I never actually thought about this
This is me!!!
It truly was such an honor to be a part of this episode! I loved having the opportunity to sit and talk in a room with so many amazing mothers. Thank you Jubilee for such a wonderful experience ☺️
Hi I knew I recognized you!!! I was like you seem so familiar! I hope you’ve been well :)
Your answers show just how much love you have for your family! It is so sweet
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So happy to be apart of this experience! These mothers are amazing, and I’m so glad I got to have this little therapy session with these lovely ladies.
so happy for you, your kid is so lucky
Your amazing, keep going at your dream
@@graceawina thank you!!
@@Random-sk6hm thank you! ❤️❤️
@@kmoreno0514 :)
It’s Mother’s Day currently in the UK, so shout out to all the fantastic mothers all over the world. You guys are the best so thank you ❤️❤️❤️
Cool that you guys have different dates because it let’s us celebrate more… still hope we could celebrate every day
I tell my mum I love her all the time but I told her again just to make sure she never forgets. Thank you to all the amazing mothers out there
Happy Mothers Day UK!
Happy Mothers' Day UK!
OI OI WHERE'S MY BRITS AT 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Having all these single moms in the same room and being able to talk to one another must have felt so therapeutic. I wish my mom could’ve been a part of this Jubilee video
It doesn’t say they’re all single?
They’re not all single tho
Yeah, it's so hard being a single mother when you have lay in the bed with your legs open while all the father has to do is work 16 hours a day 7 days a week.
@@coolorphans who hurt you?
@@gorillagripcoochie631 Definitely not a woman because as we know, they are one of the most oppressed social classes in society. They have to bear the burden of not being drafted for war.
I can relate to Megan. I lost my husband too. I am a young widow with four small children. It's a struggle going from being a stay-at-home mom to having to find stable, and steady employment out here in Los Angeles. Feels impossible but I'm finding my way and at times I don't understand how I can progress given my situation.
One of my children has autism and another has leukemia. It's not easy, I have nothing but respect for working moms as well as stay-at-home moms. At the end of the day, we all have our challenges! We navigate motherhood differently given our circumstances. We do what's best for us and our family! Stay blessed everybody ❤️
Respect ✊
Props 👍
All the best. Your kids will love you for all you do for them.
My heart goes out to you and your family.
Praying for him
My mother lost custody of me and my brother due to child abuse and neglect so my dad was the one raising us alone. My father is a hero in my eyes. So no, a child DOES NOT NEED a MOTHER more than a FATHER in their life in every single situation . Some women shouldn't be able to have children. My dad did a wonderful job manageing going to work everyday 6 days a week, prepareing all our meals, doing our laundry, going grocery shopping ALL ALONE.
Some people shouldn't have children period, 100%. So many broken people out there because their parents had a kid when they shouldn't have. That's why access to contraception and abortion is so important regardless of how you feel about it morally.
@@Wraiven22 exactly 💯
Well I was raised by both parents and I say a child needs a mother more. What makes your opinion more valid than mine
Your dad is a super dad. Wow!! But ideally a child needs both parents. I have both. But they both also neglected me, and even abused me.
Although that’s my experience, I still believe a child deserve a complete family, both mom and dad. Adults should really think if they can handle the responsibilities of having children. If they can’t, just don’t or just get pets.
My mom was and is SEVERELY depressed (think bedridden for 20 years levels of depression) and agoraphobic, so my dad took care of us 95% of the time growing up. My mom was also very abusive and my dad wasn’t. Totally agree that Dads can absolutely be the better parent.
I would love to see an episode with stay-at-home dads vs. working dads, from this episode I can tell that dads working is often considered the standard, and are often criticized for wanting to be a stay-at-home parent
Criticized because it hardly ever works
@@andrewcoffey6072 how about when it’s two dads? would they both need to work and leave their child with a nanny because it apparently doesn’t work for a dad to stay at home?
@@liviavanvlissingen3919 will I generally would speak on the most likely scenarios; not the exceptions like homosexual couples. I would theoretically guess that the feminine one within the relationship would be more likely to be able to stay at home but I would guess both would work in most of those relationships. Also I would argue kids are best suited to have a mother and a father figure in their infant and adolescent lives
@@andrewcoffey6072 i have a friend who grew up with just her dad and she was way better off that way than having her mother in the picture. again, i think if both parents agree who stays home and who works, some general standard of who “has to stay home” shouldn’t matter
@Gavin Reed Source?? You can't just throw in the word biologically to sound right lol.
I really love the solidarity shown here between the moms. It’s so common for moms to shame other moms for choices the don’t agree with, and it so nice to see how supportive and respectful everyone here was to each other. We need more of this!!!!!
Seriously there was no controversy. It was moms who just all understand how hard it is and want to be there for each other through this shared experience! Thank you for noting that!
I thought the same thing! So wonderful to see mothers support and hear each other out, no matter what side. We need more of this!
My mother did both. Stayed at home when I was a young kid, but as I became a teenager and old enough to stay home alone, she started working and that’s how it has been for the past few years
It was hard to watch just because these moms go through so much. Honestly a great episode and much love to all the single moms that participated in the discussion.
I agree, i was so emotional throughout
women ALWAYS play victim
they NEVER tell the other side, or the choices they made to get to said point. Lets be honest here
@@Oumaima500 your a women..... your ALWAYS emotional
do you not understand what a "female" is, and how their brains work, and thinking process????
we have TONZ of studies done proving all these things
@@mattlol163 damn who broke ur heart
@@mattlol163 bro sounds like he's 8 and his playground gf broke up with him
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homie rlly tried to tell a woman how her brain works.
I respect both choices, but I’m always concerned for the parent who stays home if they’re not generating their own income somehow. Relying on someone else financially is risky imo, especially if you have a child. Too often we hear about someone being left with virtually nothing after a breakup or divorce.
Aliya’s story of being pressured to have an abortion was awful & NOBODY should feel forced to make that decision one way or the other.
i agree but i definitely think one biological parent/whoever is in the marriage needs to stay home, i don't think both parents should be working and only seeing their kids 2 days a week (part time work makes sense to me).
also i definitely agree with your second point. i saw a woman in a comment section here on youtube get talked out of an abortion and she said it was the worst mistake of her life. i'm so glad aliya said screw her family, i'm sure she's an awesome mom! if i ever need to make that decision i will be listening to my own mind first and only.
...not in California
@@moonchild708 my mom, a single mom, raised me and my brother with a full time job. she worked her butt off and did everything for us, take us to sports games, friends houses, etc.. so i disagree. a stay at home parent is not needed. but if some want it fine. i just do not see the need
I've heard of so many people get into abusive situations where their husband hurt them and they weren't able to escape because they depended on his income...
@@moonchild708 It's generally not possible for one parent to stay home, though. The cost of living is so expensive that even splitting rent with someone else who works full time is nearly unaffordable.
When you’re a work from home mom, so you’re doing both at the same time 😭 It’s so hard but listening to other moms sharing their stories reminds me that it’s worth every second.
Not really.
@@danieljenkins7951 elaborate
@@tink6225 You know they aren't going to elaborate.
I'm a work from home dad so I feel you. Lol
That's so true. More people figured it out now during the pandemic. A child requires a lot of attention. If you can't detach for a few hours (school &co), you have to pay attention to everything at once, house work, actual work, looking after the child(ren). If you have limited space and you have to share the room with them, it's difficult.
As a new mom and as a stay at home mom, it is definitely two and a half FULL TIME JOBS. No breaks, no weekends, no vacations 🥲
The best part of being a mom is yet to come. They are cute when they are little, but watching them become their own little selves, finding their talents, and becoming a person in their own rite as opposed to an extension of you. THAT is the part that makes your early sleepless nights worth it. Hugs and luck to you, new mom.
You got this!!! Shout out to the amazing moms like you that make the world go round :)
rooting for you!
ok and lol? you put yourself in that position
But it’s worth it more than any other job in the world
The affection, love and caring of a mother are not counted in GDP. But they are worthy of more than trillion dollars to a child. Thanks to my mom who was always with me in my childhood and made my childhood brighter.
Not counted in GDP and therefore no need to acknowledge a woman's sacrifices🙃
@@swatisaini6447 Gold is thousand times more precious than water. That doesn't mean that gold is more important than water in Human life.
That is no excuse for mothers to not earn money. Everybody should earn money.
Thank you for the love❤💗
@Gavin Reed not true at all! feminism at its core supports women (and everyone, really) in making their own choices. stay-at-home mothers not being appreciated is because traditionally female dominated work is less valued overall, which is what feminism is advocating to change.
This makes me wanna go hug my mom, i love her to death 😭❤️
🥺 its mothers day in the UK today aswell
We mothers need a sister circle like this! Absolutely beautiful 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤️❤️❤️❤️🥹🥹🥹🥹
i don't have a problem with stay-at-home moms ,I have a problem when the default is a woman having to give up on her career (that sometimes take people 20+ year to make) or is made to feel guilty and selfish for having a career after children.I understand how difficult it is to raise a child but I have seen far more dads not doing a single thing for their children's upbringing while the working mom is just dying under so much of stress and work.(it an be vice-versa too)
Yeah but it's annoying when ambitious women see stay at home moms as a threat to feminists work when the feminist goal was to give women choice. And I definitely don't love the notion that being a stay at home mom is being lazy. Lots of moms want to go back to the workforce because it's less tiring mentally and physically.
Exactly, I wish they had talked about the division of labor. Part of the reason why I want to be a sahm is watching how stressed my mom was working full time while my dad did no domestic care, because of sexism. I don’t think feminism has done enough to address this. It’s not enough for women to work, if men aren’t expected to also pitch in to house work.
@@GirlDo3 true
@@PrincessLioness true they make a video and forget about mentioning the most important part of this discussion.
@@PrincessLioness its better to divide the chores than be a sahm, in this economy surviving on a single income is quite difficult.
I really enjoyed being in this episode. There is so much more I wanted to say! All moms, working or not need support! We need our village! We need society to better support mothers in everything that we go through to bring life and support life in this world!
Life is suffering. Choices come with tradeoffs. Society doesn't owe you anything. You owe society. When you understand that life will be less complicated and you will find greater meaning.
Support should come from your Husband and family. Not from the government and strangers.
@@prodigygod1 100% True.
I support you and hear you Anu! We do need more support from everyone. More support, which can look so many ways, has so many implications for better mental and physical health of the mother and child!
Ignore the shitty humans in the comments. You 100% deserve help.
The question about postpartum depression was so powerful, thank you for asking it. It's important for people watching it to see this, know how common it is, and feel like they are not alone.
More people have to realize that staying around and nurturing life is the most important job. The negative stigma surrounding stay at home moms should have never happened.
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I think the biggest stigma on stay at home mums are the ones living under the welfare system stereotype.
@Kuma the most important job for a woman is what she decides to do, for some women career is more important and its fine.
@@sambatra6162 If we’re speaking about what’s best in the long run. Raising your child is the best thing you could do. Because otherwise nobody would exist.
@Subi Then why do men get to have a child AND a career?
Wow, I hope Meagan is proud of her self, for being able to balance everything. Also making time for her mental health. Especially being a single mother.
And Kayla atleast you know what you need to work on. Just do your best, and one day your child will understand you are human too.
I love being a stay at home mom and I would never trade it. In my opinion raising children is the most amazing and most important thing you can do. It is the most fulfilling job to have. Is it hard? Of course. But the hardest jobs are the best. I had several years of working before I had children and it was fine but nothing compared to motherhood. My job I had, no matter how important, will NEVER be as impact full as raising the next generation.
This was a wonderful episode! I would love to see a stay-at-home dads version of this too.
I would personally also really be interested in an episode of women with vs without children. I feel like that could lead to some interesting conversations as well.
also gay parents
@Renée - Yes!
@@Random-sk6hm Gays cant be parents because they dont reproduce. That's not how it works. lol
Men that stay home are called degenerate beta males.
@@kabutoyakushi6618 First, LGBT people CAN reproduce. Ever hear of lesbians getting pregnant? Or gay men impregnating women who choose them as fathers? Or adoption? Surrogate mothers? What rock has sheltered you since 1966?
I recently heard someone calling motherhood the biggest unpaid labor force in the world, and I totally agree with that. It's crazy how much is possible for everyone else in the world due to the unpaid labor of mothers, yet the second they ask for basic human rights, people are up in arms because "it's not our/the governments' responsibility." As if anyone knows or cares where their taxes go in any other circumstance, until it's suggested it go toward helping the people who most need it.
@Meradianstar 42 How you turned out is irrelevant to what I stated. If you were raised entirely by a babysitter, that babysitter would've earned wages - whether you turned out great or awful. That's the reward for their labour. Your parents did not earn wages no matter how much time and effort they invested in you or how well you turned out. Instead, what usually happens is that your mother would stay at home to care for you, which would then allow for your father to earn a wage. But this wouldn't guarantee that wage would be spent on you or your mother, but your mother would still be expected to care for you regardless, and then you would grow up to contribute to the labour force and be taxed, which is why having kids is promoted in society.
@Meradianstar 42 Yeah, that's a valid opinion. Doesn't change the fact the parent who stayed with their child has to continue to stay with their child while receiving little to no help from the other parent.
@Meradianstar 42 This has nothing to do with my original post and seems to massively be deflecting from it, but sure. That's how it should be, but circumstances don't work out like that all the time. If the stay at home parent has a disability, if the child has a disability, if the husband leaves the country with all their money, etc, things turn out quite differently.The situation you posed is usually only an on-paper thing and real life very often diverges from this, especially when it comes to a partner who abandons their family and pretends they never existed.
@@T_Cup Hi, do you think Stay At Home Parents should get paid for raising a child? I understand childfare, trying to support your kid when you dont have much resources but paying them for raising a child? thats pretty messed up. If you introduce that idea and its gets implemented.....thats a dark path I dont want to think about.
So well said!
Can we all agree that maternity leave in America is BOGUS! My friend just had a baby at the end of December. She’s an NP and her employer gave her only 6 WEEKS. That’s insane and has me worried for when it’s my time to become a mother. My heart goes out to all mothers. Y’all deserve everything. ❤️
If people want paid paternity leave (men and women), that same paid time off should also be offered to everyone at the company. Whether they have kids or not.
@@Criner05they have FMLA... maternity and paternity is for parents only.
Government dependency is a trap. Free the economy so costs go down and affordability goes up.
I love how everyone seemed so supportive. Being a mom is hard. SO SO hard so the less judgement the better. We’re all doing our best in the ways that we feel best.
Thank you Jubliee for having me on this episode it was such a great experience!! Love all the mothers I’ve met on this episode💕
You and Aliya were my two favorites. You two are doing things right imo.
@@kabutoyakushi6618 thank you!!
Poor Megan. I can only imagine how hard it is to live with the fact that your partner committed suicide 😢
Pleaseee do parents VS child free people. As a child free person, who intends to stay that way for life, I think there's the potential for a really great conversation between sides.
I would love to be in that convo!
I really feel like childfree people look down on us parents. I always notice that they indirectly insult us or make us feel like we’re living unfortunate lives because we’re parents. But yes, I guess it would be an interesting conversation.
@@celestegarcia923 Interesting. As a child free person by choice, I feel the opposite.
@Spencer Jones As a parent, I don't look down on child free by choice at all!! In fact I respect that they are making a responsible decision if it is something they don't want to do or if they are not able to. The US does not exactly have systems in place that support parenthood like other first world nations. Parenting is such a huge physical, emotional and financial commitment. I respect people who are mindfully choosing not to have kids if that makes sense for their desires and/or circumstances.
among young people being child free is way more popular
so much respect to the woman who lost her partner to suicide, thank you for speaking openly about it. i also lost my partner and it’s the worst pain. i can’t imagine having a child too
It's incredible how strong these women are. The emotions that came up during this show how complex, wonderful and deeply challenging motherhood is.
I am very happy that I was able to be part of this episode. It was definitely therapeutic and I am so happy that I’ve met these other amazing moms! ❤️
Ohhh🥰 so cute
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Aliya, you all did a fabulous job sharing. I'm appreciative of you. Keep going towards all you imagine and keep moving towards the things you didn't know you would imagine because you never imagined them. All you touch see think move towards etc is yours.
The mom who lost her husband…I’m not even a mom or have a husband or anything but I resonated with her the most. She’s only in her 20’s she’s still so young I hope she can find love again one day when she gets older if she wanted to
These are the middle ground videos I want to see, not the oppressed vs the bigot
Yes better than the insane discourse we have online.
wdym by opppresor?
@@Random-sk6hm Now that I think about it I probably should have said "oppressed vs the bigot" actually, I'll change kt
And what videos fall under that broad category for example? Nor sure I have seen any.
Exactly
I'm a young male but I don't know why I loved this video so much. When they talked about their own dads as someone with an absent father my entire life it felt so bad because I really do feel it a lot. So Jubilee I hope you could do a video inviting fatherless children. Because it's a very real thing and there is some stigma about it people make jokes. And it just feels so common in the black community to me I have had so many friends that either have a father in jail or are divorced or so many other reasons. We all deal with it differently and it affects others more than others. But for me, it's been such a huge identity dent I haven't sourced that masculine figure naturally ever in my life nobody has been there for a long period of time. I haven't even graduated hs but I think it's such an amazing topic that could be talked about.
I agree, that would be powerful!
The significance of family life, motherhood, (and fatherhood) are infinitely more important to maintaining our social fabric than working for a company. The building blocks of empathy and unity are first learned at home.
As a mom I absolutely cried during this episode 😭. The mom who lost her baby from an unwanted abortion sent me balling 💔
I think it depends.
1. It should be a choice
2. Financial stability matters 100% if money is tight not one parter should have the pressure to earn for the whole family.
3.Both parents matter not just the mother.
It all depends on the situation, there is not right or wrong.
Glad they talked about postpartum depression my older sister had it when she had her oldest kid she ended up anorexic and in a mental hospital
Children need both mom and dad in their lives if at all possible
They need a loving parent, at least one but both is great -however their gender doesn't matter, gay parents are amazing too
@@Random-sk6hm yeah that too my cousin has two dads and they have a better relationship than I do with my own parents 🥲.
No ... children need loving parents , the gender is irrelevant .
Yes!
My dad sucks
This was probably one of my favorite jubilee episodes. Moms don’t get enough credit whether stay at home or working. We both work either way. Yes it’s different work but it’s still work and we work our asses off in everything we do.
this video shows how actually motherhood feels like 💔
This made me so emotional, I am currently a sahm but I start school in June for ultrasound. It has been hard adjusting to the fact that I will have to leave but I keep reassuring myself I’m doing the right thing. Everything is tearing me up inside
I want to say thank you to jubilee and all the participants that have ever come on this channel.. by giving their story and creating an open discussion it has helped a lot of people
Growing up watching my single mom work full time and be held responsible for everything without any breaks…I don’t want the same for myself. But, It’s not something you have full control over. I don’t know many men that want their wife’s to stay at home anymore. I’m currently a college student who works and I have long term career goals. But when it’s all said & done…if I’m ever blessed with the option to be a stay at home wife/mom I’ll gladly take it. I love the idea of cooking/cleaning and otherwise preparing the home for my husband, kids, and friends. But sadly most men expect women to work and act like men on top of caring for the kids and up keeping the home. Feminine and masculine energy are swapping spots these days, but that’s a whole other conversation. Long story short, Women should have the CHOICE. We need to stop acting like being a stay at home mom isn’t honorable. It’s definitely a privilege in todays world, but honorable nonetheless!
I have this conversation with my partner from now and then since we are trying to conceive at the moment and thankfully he is very understanding. He mentioned if I want to work I can but he prefers me to be a stay at home mom or work PRN so I can be there present for our kids. This is definitely a conversation couples should be having.
I think the reason for many women wanting to work is because they don't want their worth being valued for just being a mother.
@@furiosa1203 also most men don’t make a lot. Yet she’s true many men want women to be submissive yet except them to pay 50/50.
'Just' being a mother. Being a mother is the most important job in the world as you are raising the next generation.
There are many such men. I'm surrounded by many women who are living traditional lifestyle with their husbands.
I became a mom 7 weeks ago and it's been chaos especially inside my head since. Not to mention the pregnancy and the birth were traumatizing. Also doesn't help to be from a culture that makes being pregnant and being a mom as part of a woman's job, no one lets you sit down and just enjoy it. Currently being forced to host people with my in laws because they want to see my son, so my son is needs attention but I have to do a million chores. If im falling behind i can feel people getting irritated.I don't know whether to laugh or cry because I'm worried I'm going to hold resentment against everyone including my son because I'm honestly not strong enough for this.
Hang in there Mama!! You are doing great and give yourself grace.
Praying for strength and a great support system to rally around you.
So if you feel that way about being a mother why get pregnant in the first place? Not to mention you complain about being a mom while your husband works his ass off to support your unappreciative ass!
Honestly, just say NO. Say no to visitors, say no to hosting, say no to anything that makes you feel sad, bad, stressed, exhausted caused by others. If anyone is offended by you saying no, they shouldn't be in your life anyway. It doesn't matter if it's family or friends.
Don’t feel like you have to be the host. Force yourself to ask them to do some chores. You are a new mom who needs help and time to bond with your son.
These women are amazing. Being a mom is so fulfilling, and impossibly HARD. It's incredibly reassuring to see women sitting around and talking about how difficult it all is. I definitely need mom friends. 🥴
The kindness between all these women was heart warming. I wish them all the best in the world
This episode is very emotional… every moms went through so much
Wow. Such an emotional episode. All such strong strong women. Once again, an amazing video. Thank you for opening this conversation up.
I love the conversation in this video! All of these mothers are amazing mothers and thanks so much for sharing your hearts with this audience!
This was a great episode 💗 I’ve been a stay at home mom for 2 years now to my daughter and I am finally feeling ready to go back to school & work. Being a mom is the best hardest job in the world
Having worked at a daycare and staying until 6pm with certain infants who got dropped off at 9 am, it made me never want to have kids unless I can stay with them for at least the first year. It’s so sad that babies have to spend most of their waking life during the week being taken care of by strangers because their parents have to work :(
This was the most kind and sweet middle ground. They were all so supportive.
It's scary how much of a gap there is between different people. On one hand it's a luxury to not to be able to work and you have that extra support. On the other hand the people that are working are doing the most just simply to survive and take care of their family.
One thing about moms is we cry alllooooot but I’ve learnt to appreciate motherhood I’m learning so much and to all the moms out there kudos to you I know you might not always feel like you’re doing a great job but remember that the fact that you let your body mind and soul go through pregnancy and birth in whatever form is the biggest way of saying I love you to your little one or grown one 😂😂 all in all you’re doing a great job mama 🖤🍃
one of the best episodes of middle ground. i cried. happy mothers' day!
I love how all these women support each other so much. The connection between strangers really is beautiful.
This was a really respectful dialogue. It’s nice that they just listened and supported one another.
One of the most beautiful discussions of Jubilee with mature and friendly mothers. My heart broke for the lady who had an abortion😢
anu is so soft spoken, they all are honestly. so much respect and love to all the moms, i wish nothing but the best & i hope you never stop believing on yourself when you think you can’t do something because you can & you always will. so much love!
jubilee should do a video about fathers that left their familys
fathers and mothers so we get both views
that would be interesting but I have a feeling they would struggle getting participants for that one, unless the father was the victim
@@WheyLandFitness a father could never be a victim
@@WheyLandFitness a father being a victim to me is never an excuse
@@ily5540 So you think that of a spouse is abusive or otherwise but was still given the rights to the child the father is obligated to stay?
Bawling my eyes out. Mothers are superheros.
This was one of the best discussions they’ve had. I’d love to see what this perspective is like for stay at home dads vs working dads.
my heart goes out to every one of those moms, each of them has gone through so many heartbreaking and traumatizing things, they're incredibly strong for holding on.
This is so interesting! I love the honesty and how both sides shared their struggles. This is real content which is so refreshing. Thank you!
I CAN'T WAIT TO WTACH THIS! LOVE UNDERSTANDING NEW PERSPECTIVES.
Stay at home dads vs working dads would be a really interesting episode as well
Half way into the episode and this is my favorite one so far. It’s incredibly inspiring to see how understanding and loving this women are towards each other. Hope life goes well for all of them and their kids as well!
This one felt like a little therapy group, loved it
I love how you aim for important topics instead of things that don’t really matter!
It’s so beautiful how compassionate and understanding these mothers were to each other
One of the best Jubilee videos. So gentle and non confrontational 😊
I love these ladies and mothers. How beautiful they are in how they speak to eachother and are able to open up without feeling judgement. I love these ladies- keep going. You guys all deserve the best🩷
i really loved this one. as someone with a single dad, i would really like to see some kind of middle ground with single fathers; they really lack resources in comparison to single mothers
I absolutely agree. I feel like the single dad scenario is often never talked about and usually overshadowed by single moms. I think it would be interesting to do a “single parent” episode to see the perspectives of both
this was such a touching video and i respect all mothers!!
As someone that grew up in a similar family arrangement as Kayla's children (parents divorcing young, seeing dad once a week + one weekend out of 2), I could absolutely resonate with her perspective. Growing up, I never had any issues, or held any guilt or anger towards one or both parents, as I saw both, and the fact that they were both making the conscious effort to preserve our relationship although their marriage did not work out really made me feel loved to another level. Go her!
I relate with the abortion story… I am pro-choice but sometimes committing to the child seems like the most horrible thing to those around you and that choice is immediately taken from you once they share their concerns
Megan seems like a very level headed and strong person who's been through a lot and I hope she's doing well
Its hard to work as a parent and know your boundaries with how much you can work and I really respect what she said.
I love this channel … the creativity and production quality is just so inspirational for us creators 💯🔥
the fact that they gave tissues 🥺
The intro was superb. I love the broken ground being reconstructed and the music played. It made me take the dialogue seriously, because of this presentation. Great platform usage and planning. Kudos to the film and production team(s).
This is the first video I have cried at by watching some of your videos Jubilee. Really thought provoking
This was a beautiful conversation. I give respect to all moms and parents in general, cause raising a child is not an easy thing at all.
I would also love to see a version with working dads and stay at home dads. Does anyone know if they already made it? I couldn't find it.
yes please make one!
You mean normal.working men and beta males who stay home?
Troll just go anywhere else
@@corinnerock8067 Your sentence did not make any sense. Did you have something to say to me?
@@kabutoyakushi6618 No, I did not.
This is honestly one of my favorite episodes, this was so therapeutic to watch and everyone felt very comfortable. I wanna see a Single Dads version of this conversation
I just want to hug every single one of these moms. They're all so sweet and trying their best, I hope they know that deep inside.