Headliner Removal & Sunroof Leak Repair
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In this video, we show you how to remove the headliner on a 3rd Generation Toyota 4runner. We did it to investigate a sunroof leak but there's any number of reasons you might want to know how to do this. The A-Pillar grab handles are the most problematic to remove because Toyota used some sort of loctite on the screw threads which makes them impossible to remove with a regular screwdriver. An impact screwdriver is definitely needed to remove these screws.
After giving it some more thought, Mark and I believe the leak we saw when doing the drain cleaning video was due to a partial blockage of the passenger side rear drain. The rear drain was working, but not as fast as it should and water was able to build up in the sunroof tray and overflow the sides. After loosening up the debris in the drain tube, the water was able to run out like it should and not back up in the tray.
**Mark did report back and said the front of his sunroof is no longer leaking. The silicone fix worked!
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*Here's a link to the Trim Removal Set we used:
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*Brake Cleaner - (To clean off sunroof trim areas before applying silicone)
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*Clear RTV Silicone - (to seal the seam in the sunroof trim piece)
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I have a leak from the roof rack. Thanks to this video i know that the repair isn’t going to be a easy repair but it’s very helpful for those of us trying to extend the life of our trucks, thank you for another great video
Hey Noel, sorry for the late reply. I don't think you have to remove the headliner if your leak is due to the roof rack. Just remove the rack, clean up all the screw holes and then use some silicone in each screw hole when putting it back together. I've heard this has worked for other 3rd Gen owners.
Your videos are the best. So far I have used the O2 swap to help with those and now I used this as a reference to remove my headliner. Somehow someway my rear drain drivers side disconnected and caused some serious issues. Thanks for the detailed videos and keep up the 3rd gen 4runner love!
Thanks Shane. Good to hear our videos have been helping you out. That's weird the drain came off on it's own. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Happy Wrenching!
Thanks for creating this content, doing sound deadening on the roof of my 4Runner. Used a Dewalt impact driver (not impact wrench) on the A pillar handle screws and they came off in a jiffy.
You're welcome. Glad the video helped you out.
Hey Tim. About 2 years ago I experienced a leak in my 2000 4Runner (no sunroof) coming out of the exact same spot you mentioned. Turns out a screw holding down my roof rack was the culprit. I ended up taking the rack off, cleaning the debris underneath and reapplied silicon to each screw. Worked like a charm. Maybe if the leak comes back he can give that a try.
Hey Donovan, you reminded me of another common leak spot and I forgot to mention this in the video. I have read on T4R.org that people have fixed roof leaks just like you described. I'll make sure to mention this to Mark. Thanks for reminding me of this. Happy Wrenching!
Great point Donovan, this turned out to be where my leak was coming from. Thanks for adding this comment.
That’s because they rust for ever
I have a 98 4runner, the sunroof drains were clogged and the metal behind the windshield had rusted out without showing visibly so I had 2 leak sources. Insurance paid for it thankfully. Great video I needed as Im reinstalling the old headliner after doing new fabric.
You must have great insurance. I never would have thought an insurance company would cover something like that. Glad our video is helping you out. Good luck with the all the work.
Thanks. This is just what I needed to see how to remove the map light assembly to tighten a loose rear view mirror. I don't say this often about Toyota engineering but that is the worst design for holding that mirror on. I had to bypass their way and develop my own. It was incredibly simple to do. I used a longer screw/bolt and some washers large enough to hold it on. Why Toyota decided to use that funky pin holder set up is anyone's guess. Thanks again for your great and thorough videos Timmy!
You're welcome Bob. Glad our video helped you out. Sometimes these engineers nail it and other times like you just experienced they leave you scratching your head on what the hell they were thinking. Anyway, I guess we have to take the good with the bad. Happy Wrenching!
Huge thanks for producing this video. I have a 1990 4runner, and I looked, and looked for a video to remove the plastic trim because my 4runner did not come with grab handles, and I tried to take it off myself but I felt like I didnt know what I was doing and I was going to break the 30 year old plastic. All I need to do now is to go out in my garage and start to remove stuff. Thanks again.
Thank you for all the hard work that you do to put this videos out. Really well explained . Same for the video editing. Greetings from New York l
Thanks man. We appreciate when people take the time to leave comments like this. Sicmods dude!
I don't even have a sunroof but I watched it. Learned about the grab handle mod. Learned a bunch of random things. Keep up the videos!
Glad you got something out of the video even though you don't have a sunroof on your rig. We're going to keep cranking out the videos for sure. Thanks for taking the time to comment Jesse. Happy Wrenching!
It took alot of effort and time for this video. The explanation is understanable. Very well done 5 star. Thank you for sharing.
You're welcome Bill and thank for the nice compliment.
Thanks for the work and time on this , Timmy and Mark. I love my sunroof, but I'm starting to investigate a leak I have on my '98 SR5. I first noticed it when one of my kids sat down in the rear passenger seat, and she said it was damp, then I saw some dripping above the upper right corner of the window. I thought it might be the weather stripping, but it looks ok, so I suspect it's the rear drain tube (29:49 in the video), possibly dis-connected up there or maybe some build-up somewhere. I'll start with some weed trim line per your first video and see where that gets me. I'll try the roof rack next (per Donovan D. and some others in the comments). I don't know about pulling apart the headliner like you guys did (I may never get it back on right). Also - I don't have a seam on the front edge of my sunroof like Mark's does.
BTW, Mark, love what you've done to your ride. Those wheels are awesome!
Well, I hope you figure it out. To get to the rear drain tube, you don't have to pull the whole headliner down. You can just unhook enough things on that side to pull it down enough to see if the hose is still on the fitting, Good Luck!
Thank you! I just removed a headliner from the junk yard and I’m about to remove the sun roof unit! Fun!!!
You're welcome. Good job salvaging parts off a wrecked rig.
Thanks for the info! We've been getting a monsoon here in southcentral KY the last few days as spring looms in the distance. Came out to my truck to see there was water in the driver's seat yesterday and and it was dripping from a soaked headliner and sun visor. Looks like it's my drivers side drain that is plugged. Gonna try the weedwacker wire and silicone the front center of the sunroof.
You're welcome. Good luck with the drain cleaning.
Great video. You make things seam so easy, but I know it's not. Well for me anyways. I'm learn a lot from your videos thanks.
We struggle plenty. Trust me, there's nothing special about my wrenching ability. Automotive mechanics is all about having the right information, right tools and a little patience. As you gain more experience, you'll get better.
Har har, it hardly ever rains here in Phoenix, and I don't have a sunroof. But this is a g00d thing for those in rainy places.
Yeah, it seems a fair amount of people have had leaks due to the sunroofs on these rigs.
Thank goodness for this video, my 3rd gen sunroof is leaking as well, something for me to do when stops raining.
adam dallas Good luck with fixing the leak. Let me know how it goes for you.
Yeah thanks. I actually worked on it last night and saw the drainage hose wasn't even plugged in. I plugged it in and haven't had a chance to test it yet because the the sunroof itself doesn't go back. Another something else to work on =(
I think I’d open up the headliner like u guys did but the day before it rains and sit in the car while it is raining to see where it leaks. Now I just gotta learn how to open up a 2001 Toyota Highlander headliner on my own. :)
You'll figure it out. Good luck with the job.
You are the kind of guy I'd like to have for a neighbor. I appreciate the info.
Thanks James.
I have a Tech Tip for the rear tailgate wire harness, that passes through the access hole as shown at15:54. I found three wires from that harness cut through from opening/closing the tailgate. Excellent video brother. Wow a bunch of snaps!!
That's interesting that those wires were able to be cut through just from closing the tailgate. Yeah, the body panels are just a bunch of snaps for the most part. Glad you like the video.
Timmy The Toolman I believe it's from cold working the wires over the life of the vehicle, as the tailgate was opened/closed hundreds of times.
I could see that.
Great Video. This is the only video I have found that comes close to helping me fix my rear washer fluid. I know the pump is working because I can hear it and there is a union under the hood on the pass. side that squirts out washer fluid when I separate it. But, I get no fluid to the rear
Thanks Kelly. That's good to hear that our video might help you solve your rear washer fluid problem. Let us know what the problem was and how you fixed it.
Thanks guys, my rear windshield washer is now fixed!!! Thanks to this video I was motivated to get it done! First, I went to Harbor Freight and spent 6 bucks for a nylon trim tool kit which worked pretty nice for getting off panels. Here is a link to the low dollar one I got:
www.harborfreight.com/Nylon-Pry-Bar-Installer-Kit-4-Pc-69668.html
I had a 20% off coupon which seems to be available all the time at Harbor Freight. Plus they gave me a free gift. I choose the 40x50inch moving blanket to keep in my rig just in case.
I believe the lower panel on the C pillar was pinching and somehow restricting the washer fluid line. (Or it wasn't getting enough draw/pressure to push it up the hill to the rear window). I took off the passengers side scuff panels (2) and followed the washer fluid line back. Then I took off the lower C pillar panel and I could see where the fluid stopped and there was nothing but air after that. So, there was a giant air bubble in the line under the C pillar panel and I think manipulating the washer hose and flicking it with my finger worked it free and the pump finally kicked fluid up and out to the back windshield. Well anyways, after trying the pump again it started working!!!!! (I had been trying to get it to work for 4 months!) I think I will try to clean out the hose with some weed whip line, hoping it fits in that small of a diameter hose... Thanks and great video. Rear washer fluid issue solved for $6 dollars including 4 free nylon pry tools and a free large clean packaged moving blanket. I wonder what the dealership would have charged? Ha
Hey Kelly, that's great news. Glad this video help you tear apart your interior so you could locate where the problem was with your rear washer fluid delivery. I buy quite a bit of stuff at Harbor Freight. I'm there all the time.
On my 98 3rd Gen, I had an annoying rattling while I was driving. I took the glove box out and was looking for loose wires and saw a new antenna wire for the aftermarket stereo that the previous owner had installed and the wire was loose but that wasn't the culprit.
After listening to the rattling for a few more days I decided to investigate further. I suspected the noise might have something to do with the stereo install and I was right. The installer left the old antenna wire hanging and didn't remove it. The OEM antenna wire plug has a heavy metal end and it was resting against a metal frame piece behind the stereo. I ziptied the wire to a wire bundle and the problem was fixed. Your average person would have just lived with the noise turning up the stereo to drown it out and attributed it to be an old vehicle that makes a lot of noise. I was so relieved I found the problem because it was driving me nuts listening to it.
It sure is satisfying figuring something out and fixing the problem isn't it? Talk to you later and Happy Wrenching!
You saved the day replacing my 2000 4Runner liftgate. I only removed enough of the headliner to get to my wiring harness. NOWWW. How do i bend the little bit of the bed that was messed up when she run into the back of me with my 5x8 trail punching into my liftgate?
Glad our video helped you out. Get a big hammer and smash it back into shape.
I use a #3 phillips screwdriver on the hand holds and you gotta press hard so it doesn't slip, but I've never had a problem getting them off. GOTTA be a #3 though. Even on my 32 year old FJ62 I had no problems.
You're must be pretty strong and good with a screwdriver because those screws have conquered many guys who have tried to get them out.
Awesome quality video as usual 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Thanks Tyler. Glad you like it.
The schematic shows the cabin hand holds as "Assist Grip".
I could have sworn the proper name was "Oh Sh*t! Handle".
:^)
Should be named Pain in the Arse Handle because it's so hard to get off.
Thank you for this video. I now have the confidence I need to remove the headliner in my ‘01 in connection with a sound deadening project. I’m wondering if you have any links for the headliner clips that cracked? I’m sure I will crack a few of them doing the removal.
Thanks again for this video! ❤
You're welcome. Don't have a link for those clips. Your best bet is just get them from your local Toyota dealer. They can't cost that much.
Damn, you guys removed everything except the actual part I'm currently concerned with: the sliding sunroof liner.
That was interesting. Oh well. At least we got you to the point where you can get at it to remove it.
Okie doke, thanks man.
hey Timmy! loved this video! using it to remove the headliner to add fiber optic "stars". is there any way you could send a link to the replacement fasteners for the ceiling of the headliner? mine snapped off as well! cheers
Don't know the part number for those fasteners. Your local dealer might be your best bet to get the fasteners you need.
I have a 2000 SR5 (no sunroof) I notice water seeps through the weather door strips during raining days. It took me awhile to figure out where the water was coming so I sat in my runner on a raining day.
Good job figuring out the source of the leak. Sounds like you'll be getting some new door weather stripping soon.
Ha Ha Exactly where my daughters corolla was leaking. The drains were plugged as well. She actually found the leak there, saying" Dad, I can see daylight through there"... I knew the sunroof doesn't really seal around the opening, but allows continual drainage, and I hadn't looked at where the ends meet. Why they don't meet is beyond me..
I think the trim around the sunroof shrinks with age and sun exposure creating that gap.
Thanks for guidance ,I do perfectly jam and leaky sunroof ok
how did your repair go? any updates?
@@TimmyTheToolman hello ,,,it's perfect working now,,
excellent video!
Thanks Sandeep. Glad you like the video.
Great video! Timmy have you encountered a slow moving sunroof issue? I have the same model as the one in this video.
Glad you like the video. I don't have a ton of experience with diagnosing sunroof issues. It may be a case that there's build-up of junk on the tracks that's slowing the operation down and a little cleaning might help. It also could just mean the sunroof motor is getting tired.
This video is awesome! Im subscribing
Pro trick : watch movies on flixzone. Been using them for watching a lot of movies these days.
@Rodrigo Leroy Yea, been watching on Flixzone for months myself :D
Tim, how about a 2011 Tundra sunroof repair? When it won’t open to vent or slide? The only thing that happens is it click sounds and won’t fully close. Do you have any suggestions to get my sunroof closed. Thank you in Advance
Hey Rudy, I just saw your comment. Sorry, we haven't messed much with sunroof repairs.
Thanks brother, I'm from pakistan.i don it today for my Toyota surf second generation
You're welcome my Pakistani Toyota Brother. Glad our video helped you out.
Can you do a video on sunroof engaging but not working I can’t get my soon roof open to see where my leak is coming from
There's a chance we'd do this video one day but we don't have anyone who needs help with this repair at this time.
Hey Timmy if I were adding a driver side visor with a mirror/light what do you think I would have to remove to run the wires?
I'm not sure where those wires run and you'd have to remove the whole headliner to do it.
Nice video, A job will done. Thanks
Thanks. Glad you like the video.
Thanks again for an excellent video. I have everything taken apart. The drain was clogged with tree precipitation, otherwise known as tree crap. The grease on the sunroof motor gear has turned to rubber. I cannot open the sunroof. I have it on the sawhorses. I imagine the rubberized grease has clogged the pair of copper tubes. How can I open the glass to slide it back? Screws are covered. The rear of the glass needs to drop about an inch to clear the roof before sliding backwards. If the 'worm gear' is stuck in the copper tube, is there a catch or release button to get the glass back?
Hey Steve, we haven't removed one yet to be able to give you some good advice. We do have plans to make a video about swapping out a sunroof sometime in the future.
update: The manual calls the copper tubes a cable guide. The cable, (sliding sunroof cable?) has 3 characteristics. A heavy bike cable at the core, surrounded by what looks like spring steel coiled to create ribs. Filled between the spiraled ribs is a rubberized plastic of some sort. After 20 years this cream colored rubberized plastic turned dark tan and it crumbles. The crumbles come loose and clogged the cable guide or copper tubes. There are 4 copper tubes. The 4 copper tubes feed into the gear box housing the gear of the sunroof motor. With the sunroof stuck closed the screws holding the ends of the inside pair of copper tubes are blocked by the glass. I cleared one clog from one outside copper tube. I had to flip the sunroof assembly over drill two 3/16 holes to access 2 brass screws in the top of the gear box that holds the copper tube ends inside the gear box. The digging continues. The sunroof still will not open.
2:45 The problem is not just lock-tite; they are actually JIS screws, not Philips. A Philips-head screw-driver will tend to 'cam-out' of the JIS fastener slots, because the two styles of fastener have different profiles. But, can confirm: that lock-tite is crazy strong. If anyone does find they have to drill off the heads, they should cover their air vents with towels to keep metal shavings from falling inside them. Then after drilling use a file to make a flat surface on the exposed threads, so that some vice-grips can get a solid bite.
...Or, you know, just use a Philips impact driver, which will convert those JIS fasteners into Philips. :)
Timmy The Toolman I believe you
You did inspire me to get the right tool for the job though. I'm going to buy some JIS screwdrivers.
I wish I could email you with GoPro camera model are you using for the shoot.
By the way excellent presentation and great audio too.
I can't remember which GoPro model we were using when shooting this video. I think it was a Hero 5. Lately we've been using Apple iPhones. Thanks for the nice compliment. We appreciate it! Happy Wrenching!
How did you remove the sun visor clip? Both of mine are broken and I would like to replace them. I removed the clearly visible screw, but they still won't budge. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
David Naroz You have to wiggle it and it will come out
Awesome video Timmy. I'm so glad I found your video because I just recently discovered water leaking from my headliner (2011 Toyota Sienna w/ dual sunroofs). The dealership diagnosed it as a TSB related issue but my minivan is past the warranty coverage so the repair costs would have to be solely paid by myself (their estimate was around $3500). My wife and I are expecting a new baby in our family this coming May 2018 and we simply cannot afford such repairs. Would you be able to help me fix my minivan? I live in Vacaville and can travel to your area anytime you're available. Thank you.
BTW, I'm willing to compensate you for your time. Let me know how best to reach you so we can exchange information.
Sorry but I don't think this would be a project we'd want to film and I'm not really a mechanic for hire either. I have done jobs for people before and charged them but it's not really how I want to spend my free time. This CZcams channel already takes up a pretty good chunk of my free time so I want my wrenching to mostly be about making new videos to share on our channel. Lots of people hit me up for help but I'm turning most of them down unless it's a project we're interested in filming.
I have a leak in my sunroof but it is broken, is there anyway to manually open it and then clean the drain holes
The only thing I can think of is taking the headliner down enough to access the drain connections, disconnect the drain hoses from the fittings and snake the rubber drain lines from there with some weed whacker line.
Timmy, I have a 4th generation with a sunroof leak. Does the headliner need to come out for the 4th generation? I cannot find any videos or information on fixing the leak on a 2004 4Runner.
The only reason why we removed the headliner is to figure out the source of Marks's leak. We suspect it was a blocked drain all along because when we poured water into the tray, we couldn't find a leak. I'd start with finding out if the sunroof drains are draining. If one or more are blocked, snake them with some weed whacker line like we do in this video: czcams.com/video/qalXo4etX3Q/video.html There's also the possibility that you have a leak that is caused from the sunroof glass trim shrinking and causing a gap that allows water in that we fixed with some silicone RTV in this video.
I put all my screws back in there respective places once I removed any pieces and the grab rails. This way I didn't lose any. My leak is only over the drivers seat but the sunroof doesn't open! I guess the whole sun roof assembly needs to come out?
You might be able to clean the front drains from the bottom going up. You clean the rear drains from the bottom going up, so you should be able to do that for the front as well. Watch this video: czcams.com/video/qalXo4etX3Q/video.htmlsi=JWPnmtblVACj7-B5
@@TimmyTheToolman I took the head linner down. I can't open lite! Need to get this opens
Your videos are SO good. Timing Belt & Water Pump are very happy!- This is a little off topic, but what do you think? - the sunroof has not worked since I bought it a year ago (99 4R). I can hear it trying, but it's not moving up or sliding back. What's the most likely culprit? Motor or a problem in track? Thoughts?
Hey Steve, glad you like our videos and you're making good use of them. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the mechanics of the sunroof. If you haven't done a Google search on the topic, I'd do that first because maybe there's a forum thread that can point you in the right direction. If you can't find an answer, post your question on T4R,org in the 3rd Gen section and hopefully somebody can help you out.
That's one I JUST can't find anything for on CZcams or anything especially helpful on Google. I'll check the forums and see what I can find. Thanks for the help.
Hey Steve, please share with me what you find out so I can learn from it.
Steve Hostetler just got mine fix today at a auto glass shop, they had to replace the sunroof cables and other parts, basically what makes the window slide, payed $300 but had to get it fix because it was not close all the way and was leaking
Thanks!
Do you by any chance have a link to where I can get a toyota service manual? I have a haynes manual that I really enjoy using when I need it, but it's mostly for engine and drive train stuff. The service manual seems to be a full front to back kit.
What year, make and model vehicle do you have?
@@TimmyTheToolman 2001 sr5 4runner
@@cmart9240 I found this on Ebay: ebay.us/1vZOfa
Hey! Are you planning on doing a video about removing the roof panel for the Toyota 4runner? Why I'm asking is cause I want to get a 3rd gen Toyota 4runner without the sunroof but I can't seem to find one so I was wondering if its possible to replace the car roof panel without the sunroof?
That would not be possible unless you were willing to cut the roof off one rig that does have a sunroof, then cut the roof off another one you find that doesn't have the sunroof and have that one welded on. What you could do is remove the sunroof and then have a plate welded in. This video will show you how to drop your roof headliner so you can access the sunroof to remove it any support brackets for it. czcams.com/video/MVJW0XM2x24/video.html
We don't have a video for removing the sunroof but I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out.
Thanks for the response and sharing the info! I really appreciate it eventually I know figure something out.
@@zawditudacosta2890 You're welcome.
What’s the size of the 2 clips from the back to hold the headliner Toyota 4Runner 2014
No clue Jackie. You'll have to check with your local dealer.
U should be able to use a 10mm socket on those handles it’s what I did for my tacoma
Somebody must have already did the hard work for you and removed the screws. Those handles did not come with 10mm bolts. Consider yourself lucky.
Reminds me of trying to find the leak on the roof of my house, only rain gets in but hard to find any other way.
Hey Mark, we surmised that the drain cleaning we did actually helped out. We're thinking his rear passenger drain was working but only partially due to a partial blockage in the line. Mark definitely had a leak because him and his wife noticed the carpet getting wet around the passenger wheel well. Now they aren't detecting any leak and it's probably due to the fact the drain is working at full capacity. At least that's our best guess.
Yeh, good to hear, the next heavy rain and you'll know for sure, best of luck that the leak is solved!
Thanks Mark.
ya, know I have talked to 3 separate dealers about my water infiltration on my 2008 Toyota highlander limited edition and 2 of them told me to bring the vehicle into shop. But what's frustrating when I talk to service and parts about my situation because I have been extensively trying to find water coming in to vehicle, they seem to have no idea that this water infiltration is going on with these vehicles?? Go figure. the 3rd I've watched videos on water coming in from the back bumper body area. There are round water rubber plugs that can dry out and water could get in there.and when talking to parts they told me I would have have bumper panel taken off to get the numbers of the plug. They won't tell me what the stock item is. They suggest again to take vehicle in for service?? This is all crazy to me ?
Water can get in from blocked sunroof drains. It can also come in via the roof rack screw holes. You can pull the screws out and fill them with silicone and then reinstall the screws. Water can come in through the sunroof trim like we show in this video and I think those are the main ones. Those rubber plugs near the rear bumper aren't a common water intrusion point. To get to those though, you can pull the rear cargo panels away from the body to get at them. Check out my Rear CBI bumper install to see how I did it.
All that work, I'm still troubleshooting my leak I'm thinking of siliconeing the whole entire roof rack and piece of rubber that runs along the roof?
People have done it but I wouldn't recommend it siliconing your whole sunroof.
Have you pulled your roof rack rails off and siliconed the screw holes? That's another common leak point. Pull off the roof rack rails, clean up the areas around the holes the best you can, maybe blow some compressed air in each of them to remove debris, squirt some silicone in each hole, put the rails in place and put the screws back in.
How long did it actually take to remove the headliner? I need to tackle this before we get rain next weekend. Thanks!
Hey Mike, people ask this sort of question all the time but the time for us is alway skewed because we're filming. If I had to guess, give yourself around 3-4 hours to do it.
@@TimmyTheToolman Great! Thank you!!!!
Hey Timmy! Since I’ll be cracking those pins that hold the roof up as well. Is there a purchase link or a part number for those suckers?
I don't have the part number for those clips. I'd suggest just going to your local dealer. They can't be that much to purchase.
@@TimmyTheToolman thanks for getting back to me! I actually did just that and have some ordered. Should’ve did that before I commented!
We are Curious what the part number is, we could add it to the video description for future on lookers
@@TimmyTheToolman I don’t remember off the top of my head, but once I pick them up on Saturday I’ll let you know!
quick question do you actually see water stains on the head liner?? Also great video!
Yes, we saw water stains.
Hello Tim question my 04 4Runner rear fort don’t open what would be the problem? Where can we start looking thank you so much hope you can help me
Hey Carlos, did you mean to say your rear hatch doesn't open?
Timmy The Toolman lol yes door, the window goes up and down with no problem at all.
This might be really difficult to fix since you can't open the hatch to easily take off the interior plastic trim to expose the inner workings of the locking mechanism. I honestly don't know how you'd attack this. You know who might be a good resource to ask is a body shop. They might have a suggestion or trick for you to be able to release the lock so you can get it open.
Timmy The Toolman thanks you! Love your channel!
Carlos Flores how you access the back locking mechanism is you remove the back plastic on the hatch. The grab handle/fabric in the back hatch has a little plastic piece you take out to reveal a 10mm bolt I believe.. after you remove the grab handle and the bolt that secures it in, now you can start to remove the back plastic. Try to get a pry tool in between the plastic and metal of the hatch until you can remove it. It has a series or clips going around the edge. Probably like 14 plastic clips in total. After you remove that plastic piece then you have to remove a metal cover that is preventing you from seeing why the hatch isn’t opening. Does the rear cargo hatch door handle still have tension? Or is it loosey goosy? If it’s loose then something broke preventing the handle from pulling the rod to open the door. If you pull the rod while the door is unlocked you should be able to get the door to Open to get a better look inside
Hello Tim. I have a question. Can u help me? Can u give me know information about foot pounds of bolts mounting brake and brake calipers. I hope u help me. I want to do it on my car. Thanks you so much
The bolts that mount the front brake calipers to the steering knuckle are torqued to 90 ft-lbf.
Timmy The Toolman thanks Tim, the rear brake caliper is how many ft-lb, can u give me know?
There isn't calipers in the rear. At least not for a 3rd Gen 4runner. They have drum brakes.
I’m sr, I forgot the rear is drum brake, thanks you so much
can the screws in the grab handle be replaced with typical Toyota bolts, say a 10mm?
Not sure the plastic covers will be able to fit in place because the bolt head will be bigger than the screw head. Take one of the screws to the hardware store and match the size thread, pitch and length in a bolt and give it a shot.
@@TimmyTheToolman since you've done this before, do you think it's possible to just drop the driver side of the headliner to rerun the dome light harness (which may include the moon roof section of plugs as well)?
@trinydex I don't know if it's possible because I've never worked on the wiring under the headliner. We took off the headliner for an entirely different reason. But, I would think you would want it completely out of your way.
Hello. So I have a plastic part loose on my sunroof. best I can find is that it is the rear drip pan/panel. Do you know how I can remount it? Dont see it in your video
Hey Brady, I'm not sure. Is the part broken or has it just popped out. If it's broken, I would suggest trying to glue it back in with some type of glue or epoxy specific for plastic.
Not broken I dont think. The schematics I believe again shows rear drip pan/panel. I have a pick but cant send on this platform. It currently just slides around very loosely on the tracks. Just was trying to not take off my headliner. Thanks for responding
@@bradybrandon3899 Yeah, I'm not going to be much help because I don't exactly know what you're dealing with.
Did it stop the leak? Mine is leaking from the same spots
Yes, the silicone in the seam fixed the leak.
Any idea what the model of those pesky clips is? Thanks
Hey Drew, no we don't know the model of the clips, but a simple visit to your local Toyota dealer will get you your answer. Even with dealership pricing, those clips won't break the bank.
Much appreciated, man.
@@drewwolod4977 No problem.
I think they put loctite on these ones because we will be constantly putting all our weight on these handles to go in an out of our trucks
Maybe a lite loctite would be in order, like Blue 242, but the stuff Toyota used is some seriously strong stuff.
Maybe water got into the headliner from leaks in the roof rack screws.
Good video! But oh man that headliner didn’t need to come out... Well maybe it was a chance to clean and lubricate some components.
Yeah, we didn't need to pull the headliner down after all but at least we were able to make a video of how to do it for anyone who does need to drop it. So, it wasn't wasted effort really.
I need it and much appreciate it. I bought a barn find 4runner and it has mice nests behind some panels and above the headliner. Not looking forward to it!
Dog Speak Well, good luck with the job when you get around to doing it. Try to get somebody to help you when it's time to pull the headliner out. It's much easier with 2 people.
A great reason to remove the headliner would be to access the sunroof to repair its functions. Curious if you or anybody in your 4Runner community has dealt with replacing or fixing the motors or movement of the sunroof. I’ll read some forums but thanks anyway. My tilt stopped working and only wants to retract half the time.
Perfect timing on this question. One of our 3rd gen 4Runners has a sunroof issue which we need to tear into soon. Should we film the repair?
- Sean
I was gonna say I’m surprised you guys didn’t have a repair documented for the sunroof yet. Appreciate the quick response and all the hard/fun work for all these amazing videos. No question y’all should film it ! Haha thanks for everything guys !
@@TimmyTheToolman Hey there, just wondering if you have to remove the whole headliner to get to the sunroof? My current one is rusted so I bought a new unit and want to do the install myself to save some $$$$. Would greatly appreciate a heads up and thank you so much for your videos so dang helpful
@@kevincenteno6049 yeah you do have to remove the headliner to get to all the fasteners that hold the sunroof assembly in place.
- Sean
I have a leak as well but it only happens in car washes or high pressure water. Still havent figured it out.
Is the leak coming from the headliner or do you notice the floor being wet? It could be the seal around your windshield too.
- Sean
@TimmyTheToolman I pulled the headliner and found out the drains are working properly, but it still leaks. I'm thinking I'll just fill a lot of silicone in that tray.
It could also be one or some of the holes that secure the roof rack luggage rails to the roof. Or a leak in your windshield which I had right after a windshield replacement.
- Sean
Will a headliner from a 1999 4runner fit a 1997 4runner?
Yes it's the same body so it will work.
Where should I lubricate the sunroof?
We've never lubricated one. I guess I would lubricate any obvious sliding surfaces with a lithium based grease to reduce friction
Whats the book time for r&r?
No clue. We don't have access to that info. We are not a shop.
Think this'll work for a 2nd gen?
Well, the steps we take to remove the headliner would most likely translate at some level but I imagine there's some differences. I can't say for sure because we've never done this on a 2nd Gen. Same goes for the sunroof leak repair. I'm assuming there's some type of trim around the glass but don't know if the trim shrinking and creating a path for water to get inside relates to 2nd Gens too.
Okie doke, thanks man.
@@Natureboy562 You'll figure it out. You've got the idea of how to go about it. Maybe first have somebody spray hose water over the roof while you're inside looking. If that doesn't pinpoint anything for you, remove the headliner using our video as a guide. You basically have to remove everything that can get in the way of it's removal like dome lights, grab rails, and interior trim pieces and get somebody to help you maneuver it out. Then, do the water application again while you're inside looking for the source of the leak. Perseverance will pay off for you. Let me know what you figure out. Inquiring minds want to know.
Can you fix my transmission please??? Haha it sounds like the bearings are going out. It would make a great video!!
I've never rebuilt a transmission. Is it a manual or automatic?
Timmy The Toolman manual.
I wonder how hard it is to rebuild a manual transmission. I'm guessing it's something best left for a shop that rebuilds them all day everyday.
Timmy The Toolman yea it’s just hard finding a trustworthy shop around here. People on 4runner groups say it’s not too hard but you do need a 20 ton press.
Have you seen write-ups on it? What are all the parts that are being replaced?
32:34 just like in prison
3:33 lighting crew hiding fail
This ain't Hollywood. This is Timmywood and we're not that fancy-pancy.
All that for nothing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am just going to use some duck tape🙃🙃🙃🙃
Duct tape would be a nice look.
@@TimmyTheToolman If you are standing on a bridge.
@@josejrgomez9178 or jumping off one
🦅💩ha ha. Loved that part.
Glad you appreciate our humor.
The real question is why in the flying fuck did Toyota use lock tight on grab handles
Couldn't agree more buddy. Makes no sense. I guess they really wanted those grab rails to stay on.
Yo you’re in California!?
Yes, San Jose, California.
Timmy The Toolman right on! is there anyway I could get your contact info regarding my 4runner? It’s always nice knowing there’s a wizard near by!!
@@jahpreejones6824 You can email me. mtbtim@sbcglobal.net
Thanks so much for this! We've had water come through our 2015 Toyota Rav4, pretty sure through the sunroof, twice. The first time was before the toyota dealer cleaned out the drains, the second was after. Same problem! Came right through the over overhead buttons and overhead front center area. It's clearly not fixed. Any advise? 30 seconds into this video -> czcams.com/video/wYVmT-Af8JM/video.html
I responded to your second post.
Could save so much time using a drill lol.
Yeah, you could. Less chance of stripping out screws doing it by hand though.
I'm sorry this should be a recall on this? Poor design if you ask me.
No recall that we've heard about. Fix it with some silicone and call it a day.
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You're a man of few words Hector. I don't understand the context of your comment.
I noticed you assumed the gender of both the receptacle and the outward protruding fastener that secure the headliner in place. Do better man!
Yeah, I know what you're getting at, and luckily, I don't subscribe to the insanity that is going on in our world. There's only 2 genders. No matter how many parts you chop off or add on, you're still going to be the same gender you were born with. There's men and there's women, and that's it. All the other alphabet soup of genders and pronouns is for people who are pretty much insane.
gnomes are known to do that.
Gnomes are known to do exactly what? This will be good information to know.