YouTube's BIG Changes To Finally Fight Spammers
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- Spammers are FURIOUS right now
The Official Announcement Post: yt.be/help/spamprotections
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0:00 - Intro
0:18 - Banning Users Actually Works Now
1:04 - Increase Strictness Filter Setting
1:53 - No More Hiding Subscriber Count
2:46 - Limiting Special Characters in Usernames
4:05 - Testing It
5:45 - Some Thoughts
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Those MORON scammers' days are numbered
Also I had fun with the thumbnail on this one, let me know what you think
LoL
Yes we know your membership has custom emojis. I am still salty over your old internet speed boost how-to video. xoxo
@@markm0000 And his CAT Ethernet Cable video too
LETS GO!!!!
yo, YT’s actually trying to help? never expected this
Well at least CZcams is finally doing something. Because we all remember the times where comment bots weren't a thing. And I want those times to come back.
CZcams and Google are always at work keeping their products safe. If you don't know that, that's because you don't know how to read or you just don't care! The reality is CZcams deletes millions of fake accounts everyday. Which is more than you can say for Facebook and Twitter. CZcams is actually one of the few social media apps that actually do care about the wellness of their users and spam on their platform.
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Finally it's here
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But the biggest help would be to bring back dislike count.
Its about time that CZcams did something worthwhile.
actually, they hate thio's anti-spammer
@@blueberrycmd U NERD.
@@user-PhuongNguyen hence! dost thou dare not call me a nerd...
This is definitely a step in the right direction
I need to see the DATE on all videos. CZcams removed the DATES that videos are posted. This is very necessary when I'm looking for news and current events. The date is RELEVANT!
they didn't remove it.... it's just hidden on smaller displays for some reason. set zoom level to 50% and it'll come back.
seeing yt support ACTUALLY do something is like a fever dream.
One of the best thing about this guy .....
Finally getting rid of this spam comment
This better be for real, because Susan has caused a LOT of damage to the CZcams community
more damage than fixes.
@@rchltmedia yeah 1 name is REMOVING DISLIKE
@@garvgupta3567 *removing public viewing of dislikes
basically the same
Now if CZcams would only fix their broken copyright claim system we’d be good!!
Only a matter of years now
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Not sure if youtube would be competent enough to do that. Also for reused content and adult content processes.
Back when I worked IT at a college people would change their name to invalid characters and emojis. One drunk guy turned his name into the imp/devil emoji. Another person to be clever turned their preferred name (what instructors saw as what they want to be called) to invalid space characters that just showed up as endless spacebars. One of those situations actually fully broke the guy's account and we had to have our database admin remove the characters from thier name and add restrictions to it during the validation check when someone enters a preferred name. People do some whacky stuff to get passed security and mess with others.
CZcams: (actually does something good)
Steven He: Finally, some progress.
Finally! It took them long enough to do something about this! Better late than never, I guess.
It's about time they started to listen and actually do something better.
This all started with you and all your diligent hard work. Thank you!
I've recently been seeing spam comments that just say a handful of exciting-sounding words like "It's finally here" and then link to a youtube video that's full of scams.
CZcams need ThioJoe on their team to fight the spammers 😤
I dunno, it seems like having him out of the tent pissing in has embarrassed them into action. Or at least contributed to it.
*_[personal opinion]_*
youtube would be a *completely different place* _if_ it has "reddit features" like ip banning/shadowbanning (also getting restricted if you use vpn but i think it would be ironic), 'vote' verifying (if the like/dislike is truly *yours* and *not* from alts), dislike count in comments (i _personally_ like downvoted comments getting collapsed from being viewed)
in youtube video views, it should *only* _count_ from the subscribers (e.g 768k/2.84m) and *not* from those who are unsubscribed (i guess?)
glad to see youtube actually improving and doing something
Reddit literally works on TOR lmao
@@My_Old_YT_Account oh, i don't know about tor
*e:* and even if it does, there's a service that archives posts and comments, and 2 websites that allow you to see it
I've had my comments get keyword shadowbanned on YT after 30 seconds to a minute. I know they have a system for it, they just have a crap detection system for spam.
@@user-lt2rw5nr9s yeah, it's mildly infuriating
On one of my videos, there was "14 comments" when in reality, it's 12 only
I had to check if there's "inappropriate comments" and i found none, even my comment on my *very own* channel got removed for no reason
Yes 🙌 this is awesome no more advertising scams
I think another method they could use to stop impersonators is by running a quick image comparison before your comment goes through that compares the user’s profile pic to the uploader’s, and if they match, blocks the user from commenting
That method seems pretty obvious and straightforward that I would be surprissed if they don't have it implemented.
My guess is that they post the comments first with a script, and after posting they change their image and nickname.
I’ve seen some spammers do this so it could work
eh, will cause a lot of false positives on people who are just fans kekw
@@so14r3 Yeah wouldn't go well for rubberfruit fans
@@luisoncpp and then the deleting happens
Finally! CZcams has finally made a change for the positive! I didn’t know CZcams was capable of doing that!
I think a fitting answer to this added feature would be:
ITS FINALLY HERE
Now if they will fix DMCA and Content ID abuse!
Finally CZcams has solved the scam comments
problem hopefully it affects spam bots as well keep
up the good work ThioJoe.
Finnaly this has been an issue for so long!
I use your spam tool daily on my channel to keep it clean! Thank you so much for working on this problem!
I have noticed a slight drop in spam comments recently, but I think it's mostly due to my EXTREME list of blocked words I have put in place to block these spam accounts. Anytime a comment gets through I add more of the words they used. They use such strange wording so it's easy to block their comments with 'blocked words'. Hoping for improvements everyday!
CZcams actually doing something about Spammers and Scammers is the most random Canon event in history fr 💀😂
YT now also massively restricts the bandwidth to you until you sign in. They want to force you to hand over viewing data.
Its about time that CZcams has listened to their content creators and get rid of spam messages. Lets see if it works
Thiojoe you are the legend who forced youtube to get serious about dealing with this spammer scammer stuff to hide their embarassment as fast as they can.
The entire youtube community owes you their thumbs up. You should get an award from youtube for your contribution.
Thank you for the update much appreciated
Thanks for making You Tube Comment Spammer Deleter. I've noticed no updates lately and I hope you're tracking to see when updates are needed. It seems a lot of creators aren't technically advanced enough to know how to police their own channels. I've used Spammer Deleter to monitor four other channels with up to 20% spammer/scammer posts. After a couple of weeks just reporting the scammers, since I can't delete posts on their channels, the number of spammer/scammers drops to around zero. Although CZcams has made only feeble efforts to prevent the problem, they seem to take reported posts seriously and have banned the posters responsible. It also seems like the scammer/spammers blacklist the channels I've monitored so they don't come back under a new name, which I will crisp with your great You Tube Comment Spammer Deleter.
Now there's a parallel problem with Live Stream spammers, which your program doesn't handle. Any possibility of developing a similar tool for livestream comment windows?
I don't get it on youtube subscriber "channel" evaluation. I don't post videos, I just watch them. I'm a real person with genuine comments. Now the fact that I don't post videos counts against me?
Tank you for sharing this information!
How about auto blocking accounts with the same avatar as the channel they're impersonating, Google already has a picture service and the tools to compare it.
Linus Covered it in WAN Show, didn't seem to be much effective.
It is not retroactive, so it will take some time before the spammers run out of existing accounts. They often make them long in advance
Thumbnail is so funny lmao loved that. youtube did the BEST thing because now creators can read their fan comments and give heart to them,love from india
This is a good thing. I kept reporting spammers and scammers, then I noticed that YT would apparently start hiding my comments after that and do nothing to the spam accounts! Yesterday, the leader of North Korea responded to one of my comments. The leader of North Korea posts videos in the Dutch language and has an email address based in the Netherlands. I reported him to YT. I don't know whether they have or ever will remove him from YT.
I definitely think this is a step in the right direction it was so frustrating going through scammers' comments just to reach a normal comment talking about the video
Wow !! Who would have thought ? YT is actually attempting something for change !! 👏👏 Great presentation TJ as always !!! 👍👍 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Maybe these changes will finally make Techquickie's "How Does Bitcoin Work" video's comment section a normal one again. That video's comment section is a special specimen with how many bots there are, that you can actually do a drinking game where you drink when you find a normal comment and you won't die from alcohol poisoning. It's that bad.
How can people block content producers that restrict comments etc? I don't even want such videos to show up in my search results.
The thumbnail somehow got me XD
*Bonk*
I think this all is because of your creation! Love the thumbnail btw!
Thank you, ThioJoe
I fell sucker for one of those and replied. When I realized it was a scammer I reported the activity (the channel, phone number, etc.) to the FBI's Cyber Crime Division.
These are actually some decent changes, although it won’t stop those malicious botted accounts from creating alternate accounts and create inappropriate replies to every comment that they specifically target. Especially on bigger channels, where the content creator may not have the time to block every single bot.
only 10 likes? impossible
The only way to stop them is to track them down
It's the only solution that i can think of
how about a thing where they can sense how much that comment (or similar comments but probably not since even alot of normal people say the same stuff) is uploaded on the comment section and when it reaches a certain amount all of them get reported under a special category
That is awesome, about time!
I wish we could tell if our comment was moderated against or shadow banned
This is pretty unlikely, because if it's harder for the spammers to know if they have been restricted by a filter then it is harder for them to figure out how to work around that filter. Real human comments end up as collateral damage - much like spam filters on email accounts.
The bots have evolved 1 month later and are getting harder to detect
Spammers/Scammers: 😤😡🤬
Regular people: 🥳🎉🎊
But what if you ban critics rather than spammers?
The spam is a big problem on youtube shorts. I think the best way to fix the problem is to remove youtube shorts entirely.
TT is edngough 4me.
Someone like yourself should do an investigation into these spammers where they originate from, is it a few select spam groups, etc because a few years ago I never really noticed CZcams spam then one day it seems like floodgates opened
Finally, CZcams making some good changes.
A step in the right direction. Still lots of work has to be done at CZcams. Thanks for the video Thio!!
Thank You Joe .
First of all thanks for showing us how to get a stock clip 😅
Yes its very good to see that Google is finally working on something that is bugging so many creators and their audience. Its going to be a long fight but as you said at the end, there will come a time where these spammers won't be able to spam their messages and fewer people will fall in their trap. Let's keep this up everyone!
Well done CZcams and well done ThioJoe too for making CZcams realise what needs to be done. And for the python app
It seems to me that these tools will allow channels to ban criticism as well as spammers.
well, those reported comments will not be account banned.
You were likely most responsible for making this happen. ThioJoe speaks, and Google listens. Pretty marvelous.
The recent change to forcing comments to the side is a big problem for me. NOT because I aesthetically dislike it (I do) and can't adapt (I can) but because they've also drastically reduced the scaling options of the video window as the browser is resized. The embedded video window used to scale linearly with no limit as the browser was resized. NOW, it rescales to a limit and then stops, with whitespace beside the comments section just taking up the excess. Before I could utilize whatever screen real estate I wished for the video, now I have just two options, 1) whatever tiny "max" size CZcams deems suitable or 2) full screen.
These damn companies just don't give a fig for users,.. when is removing OPTIONS a good idea? You can be sure this change has one and only one reason, to allow them to promote paid for content more prominently and permanently
Great content as always 👍
I hope they won't ban my name.
Such good news! What took them so long?? Now, if we could just do something about robo spam calling.
How does this new change integrate with the functionality of the Python spamming algorithm? Are there any updates or upgrades to the program that would mesh well with CZcams's change, for example weighting the character detectection feature?
So CZcams gave "content creators" an easy way to delete all channel posts, from anybody the content creator disagrees with.
it's like that scene in TV-series "Foundation" where the emperor punish a dissenter by deleting every person who knows the dissenter by detonating a tiny explosive implant in their head.
*Fiiinally!* This has gotten way out of control!
best thiojoe thumbnail ever
They need to do this on instagram
No, i don't even want this on CZcams
Requiring every account holder to send a snap of their valid photo ID would cut down the pests.
Except most minors and even some adults don’t have a photo ID. And I don’t want Google having that lol
Except they already have it all, and more.
Muppet.
Great video!! I think the only way you can use special letters is, if you are from a differnt country. Like "æ" "ś" and "š".
I guess some exec at CZcams finally drove behind someone with the bumper sticker with that Bob Marley quote, "You can stop some spammers sometimes, but you can stop all the spammers all the time."
Wait... CZcams is actually doing something good? I'm still waiting for these short spammers
A more subtle menace I noticed lately are generated comments from commenters with normal human names. This often happens on finance / crypto videos: top poster brags about insane gains or gives us his view of the market or asks a question about how to get rich. Then repliers start dropping financial guru names. It's a whole bot hive with the goal of promotion. The pattern to me is obvious but it could fool a lot of people and I don't see how a spam detector would be developed without training a neural network on this type of spam.
The second page for the new account creation probably also lets CZcams collect some data, which they will hopefully use to improve their anti spam measures.
The only problem is now you can't share peer reviewed information in the comments making it also hard to provide citation.
CZcams: You have only witnessed a mere FRACTION of my power! Let me show you what you're truly up against!
An easy way to prevent spammers comments is using a filter that looks for keywords such as Bitcoin or Invest.
Now for them to allow us to complain about advertisers. I am getting really tired of scam adverts...
I wish Google (CZcams) had at least 5 server computers that they could use to create code/algorithms to fight spammers intelligently and efficiently
Great video, keep it up!🏈
I don't know how often you hear this Thio, but the effort you always put into showing the viewer what you searched for stock footage is appreciated. You've grown since your troll channel days, very deserving of your current and future success. Never change.
Does he have a troll channel
When are they going to stop spammers from spamming users trying to trick them into believing they won something and putting a suspect web page in the spam?
Especially when they've been reported hundreds or thousands of times...
One of the latest SPAM methods I have noticed, since YT's new changes, is one account, that is only say, 6months old, and like one subscriber, will post on a page. Then, what seems to be a sock puppet by that same person, or another in their team, will post under that comment, again, a new account, with low activity, and answer that comment.
For example, on a page, a scammer will post something like ''I wish I knew how to invest in crypto'', and then under that comment another account will answer ''Hey, I know this great investor who will help you''. The biggest problem with this scam attack is that under the original scam comment, is not only the other sock puppet scam answer account, but a bunch of people that are not scammers. We would have to delete not only the scammer, but the people under the original scammer comment, who are not involved in the scam.
In my opinion, it would be best to delete the original scam comment. And all the comments under it, even if some of them are not part of the scam, because if they are not part of the scam, then they are falling for it. By deleting the original comment, and the entire thread under it, would we be getting rid of the scammer, and protecting those who did not realize that it was a scam?
As of right now, I don't see how YT will be able to deal with this new attack. Good job on YT for upping the game, but it will always be on us to help to stop these scammers.
Crazy it took so much time to do a 1 hour fix
this thumbnail is legendary
my suggestion for youtube is to ban YT shorts spammers
I've seen some shorts channels post the same video tens or hundreds of times. Maybe a new thing for YT to work on...
❤❤❤❤❤ THANK YOU
Thank you
Nothing will be perfect, but this is a really good step. I'm pretty sure I'm already seeing less comment spam on channels I frequent.
its time to give youtube a symbolic pat on the back ,they honestly did earn it!!
About time!!
I just don't get how almost every real comment I put on any video gets deleted but the comments sections are always full of adult links and fake links.
For starters, just don't allow links in comments, and certainly don't add automatic links to text. Wouldn't stop all of them but would make quite a big difference.
Thiojoe, your vidoe is right to left and left to right
I can't find the video uploaded date after opening the video on desktop.
> I want to know how old is this video and if i had already watched it.
> I think youtube removed video uploaded date from videos - Not a welcome change
Could anyone confirm if that's the case?
I cannot find a single spammer on this video 😂👍
Yeah it's has been happening to other CZcamsrs too.
Great video!
Well, I am very thankful for their help... But a LION's share of the kudos go to you and those like you that keep pressing this forward otherwise it would never have happened. You know they were slow to fix this because spam or good comment, comments generate revenue... So, following the money, it is not to hard to see why they played dumb for so long.
the increase strictness is super annoying i get comments flagged for words such as "my" now and i have to completely think of a new way to type it
My goodness, I hope my flagged my's wont affect my mood.
Yeeeah, no flags...
Got one 3 minutes ago on another channel tho for using the word 'moron'
These are great changes.