AD-1 Amp Dyno Taramps Smart8BASS by Jones Subwoofer Solutions JSS
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- čas přidán 30. 09. 2023
- AD-1 Amp Dyno Taramps Smart8BASS by Jones Subwoofer Solutions JSS
Manufacturer ratings:
4800w RMS @ 4 ohms
8000w RMS @ 2 ohms
8000w RMS @ 1 ohms
Dyno bank consists of
1x 135ah CMAX, no active charging.
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I love these amps, they get down on good electrical. The bass series you can run up to 17v. I run my at 16.2v and they make tons of power. I have two of them total, each one is on a DC Level 6 18 wired @ 1 ohm. I have videos on my channel if anyone wanna see these playing.
just checked out your channel and subbed, sick system bro. i just ordered my 2nd smart 8 bass and lithium bank for my system, currently running 1 smart 8 bass on 4 15" sundown xv3's in a 6th order tuned 23 on the bottom, still haven't put my loading wall up top yet, got a lot of work still to be done but for now it's playing and getting more nasty as the work comes along. my previous experience is with fosgate 2500bdcp's and dc 5k's i really dig my taramps a lot.
@@johnnysix7162- Your front port area, for your 4-15s, in your 6th order, will prob. be some where between 275sq. In. to 350sq. In of port area. Hope it performs great. I ❤️ 6th orders! Let me know what you end up liking for port area, and how well it performs with 2-Smart Bass 8ks.Should be windy!?
Those last 2 dynamic runs were impressive 👏
Heck yeah been waiting for this one! Thanks Jones!
I enjoyed the video keep up the good work. Your videos and others like it help determine the amplifiers I purchase for my vehicles.
I’ve been waiting for this! I have one in the trunk right now and it slams. Lol glad to see it do the power it did. I know if I get more reserve I got some headway. And even tho it may not do rated. Not everyone is looking for POWER. I chose the smart bass series over the smart series because of clarity in the frequencies. The bass series just sounds so clean.
Been waiting for this!!
Thanks for the video.. Was hoping to see better numbers but still a great Amp.
Awesome amp. Great video 👍
Awesome Video!
Smart 5s are the most impressive smart outa all the smarts
Ive seen this with other test results of the Bass series as well but your absolutely correct the amo is throttling.
Real world those amps put down well over 8k as seen in the dynamic runs
Me too I seen that & these amps are powerful
I bought the regular smart 8k because I wanted to get at least 5k when I rise from 1ohm to 4ohm when playing music . Im glad I went that route 😅.
@JohnG1000- So if you utilized the Bass Smart 8k to its full potential, by wiring to 1/2 ohm, and had 4 x impedance rise, while playing music= 2 ohm power would be 8k @ clipping.
Where these Bass Smart series of amplifiers will shine is with musical builds with 4 x impedance rise. Example: The reg. Smart 8k= only 1 ohm stable, so if wired to 1 ohm, and if while playing music, your impedance rise= 4 x,= you will be getting 4 ohm power= 5k, vs a Bass Smart 8k= 1/2 ohm stable, so if you wired to 1/2 ohm, and your rise was 4 x= to 2 ohm power= 8k @ clipping= 3k more power after rise on music, vs the reg. Smart 8k!
This is the first smart 8k amo dyno video i saw where the amp didnt do well over rated and huge huge dynamic
Idk man 11 and 15k is pretty huge but I know what ya mean. Actually mostly all taramps dyno videos I've seen whether AD1, amm1 or clamping they mostly all put out huge dynamic numbers esp the smart series.
Regulated power supply. My smart bass 5 is same way. Still a power house.
For whatever reason the SmartBass never have huge certified numbers on the dyno bench, but still put up more than rated when officially clamped in the lanes. I think the static impedance of the dyno interferes somewhat with the Smart function.
Jason I talked with you about my higher voltage testing a couple weeks back. On my smart 5 bass. They don't like the higher voltage. I get premature smart roll back vs when I was running 14.8v. I got more out of my S5Bass at 14.8 dropping to 14.4 then I did at 15.5 dropping to 14.9.
You may try a test yourself just for the hell of it.
We ran Smart5 down to 11v without any substantial differences from 15+, at the time, just to show that the amp would do it. But that's interesting, later I might do a direct comparison going from cmax to a 12v bank with this one to see what happens.
@Facekicker I was expecting more wattage bumping the voltage up. Was surprised by the fact it didn't and the smart tech would kick in sooner. I love these amps by all means. It's just interesting to see how the technology works. These amps give you a great amount of power without having to boost the voltage. And actually running them near 16v prob not great. Sam from barevids accompanied with a technical explanation on big Ds video on the smart 3. At around 11 minutes
That's good power right there... better make sure you got a subwoofer that can handle that power
Omg where have you been. Miss you
I have this amp and the smart 3k bass they both are heavy hitters
Yes u right about SPACE Korean is so big and long
👍👍👍...💯
I really wanted this amp bad. Taramps commented on my tiktok video 2 yrs ago hinting to me it was coming lol. I bought the smart bass 5k per your recommendation couple yrs ago. And I don't regret it at all. Now space being a factor, and wanting to move to Korean, I'm just gonna skip this one and go to the incriminator audio IX8.1 I think. I've had every smart amp till this one tho, and I've never once had an issue. They're both in daily drivers to this day. 🤷♂️
Those IX8 are sick! Definitely the best footprint you'll find for a comparable Korean.
That amp cost way too much for me just for 8,000 watts on 1ohm & and 1 ohm sounds like crap when it come to clarity, and the 20hm power ain’t worth 2,000 $$ incriminator Ix.8
@@poohwecampbell7799 I don't disagree, but I don't have the space and still want that korean power. If I can afford it, why not?🤷♂️
Trying make up my mind tonight on which one I wanna go with thinking on t9000. Smart bass 8k. bass8k md12k.
When are you guys gunna be able to dyno the stetsom bass8k flex
What would you guys choose to run 1 Avatar SVL 1547D2 at 1ohm. This amp or a Deaf Bonce AAK 4000.1D? THANKS
Hello brother, I have sundown x12 v2 sound number 2, (3000 rms total) is smart 8 bass suitable for them?
The Bass series never quite made the advertised power.
I've seen them clamp over rated in the lanes but..
For some reason on the bench, the SmartBASS models tend to fall short.
Seem's like the regular smart 8 is a better choice even did almost 8K at 0.5 certified didn't even go on protect mode
I would think the 2ohm rating would be the most favorable since most systems will be rising to 2ohms or hire if they are wired to 1 ohm or below.
@elcaminosupersport- Wrong the regular Smart series= full range are only 1 ohm stable, and will blow up quick @ 1/2 ohm.
So I know the throttling is there to protect the amp, but how do you set the amp gain to where it doesn’t throttle? Or is it due to wiring low, or charging too high ?
The amp does it when it's at its output ceiling.
There's nothing wrong with this behavior, it's intended, and the amp offers more output more of the time than a non-smart amp.
The dyno is a static load which causes the throttling to occur sooner than it would in live use.
seems odd that the starting voltage is 15 plus volts and the amp under performs, the 2 ohm performance indicates this amp has a 12-13k 1 ohm potential... throttling you say must be some wizardry gone amuck and awry aye?
So basically gotta wire this amp to .33 or half ohm for this amp to shine ✨
It's nice but not as good as I was expecting.
@RyanBassForLife- What i think most people are overlooking, is the Regular Smart Series of amps( = full range ), and are only 1 ohm stable= will blow up quick @ 1/2 ohm. Most musical builds will see 4 x impedance rise. So if you were to wire a Regular= the full range Smart 8k @ its lowest rated ohm load= 1 ohm, and had 4 x rise with music, you would get 5k. But if you had a Bass Smart 8k, and wired to its lowest rated impedance= 1/2 ohm, and had the same 4 x rise= to 2 ohms, you would be getting 8k, @ clipping, = 3k more power, after rise, while still wired to the manufacutures rated impedances= should last muuuuch longer!?
Interesting amp. A friend of mine took out his Smart 8 Bass and replaced it with a Slapz audio 8k for $370 bucks. I haven’t heard it in person since the switch but he claims his Resilient 15s hit deeper and louder with the Slapz for half the price of Taramps at 1ohm.
If his taramps isn't playing low enough turn the sub sonic all the way left to off cause they have weird roll offs on their dials cannot go by what it says on the side of the amp my smart 3 and smart 5 play 10.htz no issues or sound loss
Running the smart 8 bass on my 2 custom zv5 15s, had a chance to compare it directly to the salt 8 on my test bench in order to get it to sound right you have to set the low pass, subsonic using an o scope , the markings on the knobs are a bit off and it has a weird roll off. Also be sure to use a dsp to set a -24db slope 80/60hz crossover for the amp to remove all the vocals.
The Slapz audio is hot garbage compared to the Smart8 Bass.
Slapz dynoed less power, is gonna be affected by box rise, and is a Cheap Chinese clone.
Always a friend. ..smfh
@@joshholden8561 now THAT is interesting. Never heard that and we’ve discussed the issue of him NOT hitting 20s and low 30s sounding “hollow” and is the main reason he switched.
What it do at 3ohm? I'm wired at 1ohm and rise to 3ohm
I would say a little over 4k because it dose 4800 at 4 ohms I’m going to try this one I got the bass 8k but this one helps fight rise!
My question is: I’ve never seen such a huge difference between certified and dynamic. Have you? Double the output? Is that normal?
Yes I have that's what these amps are known for and making rated power and at 12.6 volts.
These new smart 8k amps have very good power management circuitry
Yessir
@@joshholden8561 so smart 8 bass or smart 8?
@@Facekicker which other amp brand does this?
So it's basically a 12k with a built in throttle?
It's been described as that, but not quite exactly how it works.
In the face of throttling itself so much, is there a chance youd be willing to hook it up to one of your builds with an amm1? Im sure it does more than rated but ill be honest, at higher ohms i expected higher #s. Another excellent dyno none the less. Ty for taking the time to share
@kswis- Im not sure why you expected higher wattage @ the higher impedances? You do know that if a regular amp= without this smart tech., if rated to do 8k @ 1/2 ohm, it would do about 5k @ 1 ohm, about 2,800 @ 2 ohms, and about 1,400 @ 4 ohms!? I know the reg. Smart 8k, did 5k @ 4 ohms, but that amp is not rated for 1/2 ohm. So this Bass 8k, if wired to 1/2 ohm, and your impedance rise was 4 x, you would get 8k @ clipping still, vs if you had the reg. Smart 8k wired @ 1 ohm, and had 4 x rise, you would only be getting 5k.
In my experience, you see little to no throttling in a proper install.
With a static load on the amp dyno, it seems to throttle more frequently.
@@FacekickerI think this throttling is a good thing, it also keeps the amp from clipping, as far as protecting the taramps from blowing up. As they tend to do when clipping, and wired low. I have seen Amm-1 tests while playing music, and the Smart amps throttling back the power= wont allow clipping= bad for dynamics= great for amp protection!
smart 8 regular is louder, would be nice if that one also would get dynoed
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Id get the regular smart 8k if i was going to buy 1 the bass versions was never my thing
@joshholden8561- Well if you wired a Bass Smart 8k @ 1/2 ohm, and had 4 x impedance rise, while playing music, which is common, you would get 3k more power(2 ohm power is 8k @ clipping), vs the regular Smart 8k, which is only 1 ohm stable. 1 ohm to 4 ohm power= 5k.
Why 15 volts dude?
Hey test 2 of the same amps and see the if they read the same!
They do!
Ya they don't dyno well j, but Josh clamps 6kbout of his bass5
Dyno big boss 8k taramps please
BB3k wired on my bench now, 8k will be next. Just gotta get free for a night to record.
@Facekicker can't wait to see it I have md 8k am plan on getting that one since upgraded subs to.the xv3 sundown
@@Facekicker what plan on doing with 3k and the 8k afterwards you keep then selling them I would like get one or.both if wanna sell it
. Trying make up my mind tonight was trying wait you out until you posted the big boss 8k. I just can't make.up mine what I wanna go with t9000 md12k. Bass8k. Or smart bass 8k. ..I have 320 amp alternator running at 14.2 or so voltage 14.6 I have 2 dvc 1 ohm sundown xv3 12s
@@timnowlin1 Big Boss 5k or 8k would be my move
For the sake of argument i would give this a pass.nobody gonna hear the difference between 7500w or 8000w.most of the people buying these style of amps are budget banger bassheads.they probably wont be running $1800 sundown neo 18s...lol
For the price per watt you can't beat it.
Ran a salt 8, ruthless 8500 , ds18 k0-10 and this amp keeps up with the best of them in terms of performance and sq just be sure to use a DSP. Running them on 2 custom zv5 15's
My buddy has one of these amps and its not fucking around, killn 4 12s
I bet if you bought the full range version it would of blown this out the water
They always tend to do better on the bench, it's true
But in the lanes the Bass models seem to clamp just as much, it's just the bench they tend to throttle back.
@@Facekicker barevids proved that it's the component used. The max rail voltage for the fets used in the full range model is higher then that of the bass model. Why? My guess. The full range factor an how more dynamic the full range can send the ohm load all over on a speaker versus lower frequencies on a subwoofer. Again. My guess. I don't claim to understand amplifiers like he does nor will I ever probably lol. Lithium is my nerd an geek side. But yea man it's almost proven even clamped on subs the full range model does better because even tho it's not labeled half ohm. Ppl do an it dumps!! I totally agree there damn near identical regardless at that point anyways the power difference honestly wouldn't be truly noticable until your in the 15.2v and up range.
Doesnt do rated at any Ohm load🙄
I thought Taramps was a full rated type of company?
Confusing to me the .5 and 1ohm Dynamic numbers.
Hopefully thesed arent actually clamping power all the time during normal use, and the lack of sensing impedance rise is the reason.
It's been explained that the 0.5 models lock down sooner than the others on a static load. Clamps show rated or more.
@@Facekicker Interesting.
My main concern with Brazillian amps was fires, and in the older days not doing rated.
You said they look beefed up compared to past models are they are taking steps to be safer, so I cant be mad at that.
It might be time for me to try one since I cant fit my Korean big amp and my subs at the same time in my little xB.
Thanks for the reply!
It’s impossible. The efficiency in 1 Ohm cannot be higher than in 2 Ohms
My readings aren't perfect, just using the tools I have. Additionally, the Smart amps just behave differently.
Should be called Smart7Bass
@beaublincoe608- All though i agree with you about the 7k rating, most people arent seeing the max, real potential, of these Bass Smart series of amplifiers(= 1/2 ohm stable). In real musical situations, vs over the Regular= full range Smart series of amplifiers(= 1 ohm stable) Example: Many musical systems will have 4 x impedance rise, if you get the Reg. Full range Smart 8k= only 1 ohm stable, and you wire to 1 ohm, and while playing music, if you had 4 x impedance rise= to 4 ohms= 5k, but if you would have bought the Bass Smart 8k= 1/2 ohm stable, and you wire to 1/2 ohm, and while playing music, if you had 4 x impedance rise= to 2 ohms= 8k to clipping! Thats 3k more power= that's a lot!