A Satisfying Conclusion: The Resolve of Ryunosuke Naruhodo
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2024
- Today we will review the final case of the Great Ace Attorney 2, the Resolve of Ryunosuke Naruhodo.
I will also give my thoughts about the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles as a whole.
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I really believe it isnt on purpose but Stronghart's actions not being seen as a crime is actually technically true. What he did would constitute as RICO, which is basically telling other people to commit crimes on your behalf or otherwise. The thing is RICO charges weren't invented until like the 1970s in order to better take on mafia crimes, so this game taking place before they were invented and him being able to get away with this conspiratorial crime is actually consistent in world.
Wow that's wild lol. The world has improved
This is honestly such a great case. I love the big twist in this case's dance of deduction that Sholmes was only pretending to be dumb the entire time, whilst he was in fact a 5 dimensional chess-master. And I also like how this case goes around the whole "amateur laywer takes on a country's entire justice system and wins" by making him 'merely' the queen piece in Sholmes' extremely well laid trap. It's also why I don't feel robbed by Stronghart being taken out by him instead of you, it feels more fitting.
Another thing I really love about this case is that Kazuma barely changed but he feels so different because of the change in position.
The reason why he didn't kill Tuspells I guess would be that it would be quite suspicious as he only found out about it later, and getting rid of the wax figure at the same time would surely cause head scratchers seeing as she was quite famous, whilst the other people wouldn't have been well known public figures. Don't remember why he just admits being the head of the 'reaper', but it didn't feel strange to me at the time so I'd guess it's because he expected Ryuonosuke finding it out anyway.
On a side note, I actually made a file with my personal ranking of every case (all 10 AA games) with my thoughts on each case, I'm curious to know if you'd be interested in seeing it.
Of course I'd be interested in seeing your case rankings and thoughts! Feel free to send the link to the file
@@DerpyHiro So I got more verbose as I played more cases, so my thoguhts on the first few games would be quite shallow.
And another thing of note I guess is that I marathoned through all games within a 7 month period, had never played or heard many of the case specifics before.
Not sure if you can see this link or comment.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17nLbxwhos8HI62HXCyxqfEfNXNVWn9m_IRC9ZumV39M/edit#gid=165601473
@@Game_InSky I can only view it so I don't think I can see the case rankings itself. I have to change "No" to "Yes" for each game right?
@@DerpyHiro You hve to make a copy of the sheet so you can do stuff in it. Can't let people edit the master sheet for obvious reasons.
@@Game_InSkyAh ok I got it now. Interesting case rankings. I've noticed some potentially controversial rankings from T&T and DD but other than that it looks like a tier list that most people could agree with. I guess Ablaze above Farewell can also be quite controversial. Now that I think about it, the original trilogy itself are all lower half games for you so you must not enjoy those ones as much as some of the newer ones
I wasn't a big fan of ace attorney before these games. I'd played up until halfway of 5 and dropped it.
I wasn't ever really into the overall plot of AA games, more the atmosphere and characters, as well as pure entertainment value.
So when I played these games I though they were a straight upgrade from the trilogy. A solid, more modern experience which took everything great (story is debatable) about the originals and gave it more palatable, suitable for all audiences shine.
Its also why the plot of the second game had to grow on me. I really appreciated the simple yet compelling story of Ryunosuke as a protagonist, but otherwise thought the second game was very messy, but gave a great conclusion and finale.
Playing it over again with other people I started to really enjoy what the second game had to offer in terms of Characters and scenarios, as well as some of the more nuanced character arcs. Everything you mentioned about characters not having good moments I disagree with. Now I can't really separate the two.
Once ever few years I find a series that defines an era in my life. These two games are definitely that.
It truly is a great series. I know a lot of people hold the chronicles to a much higher regard than anything else in AA. For me it's hard to say which I prefer between Chronicles and the original trilogy
I love TGAA2. Simply sublime. A big surprise, because apart from the last case and maybe the third one, I didn't enjoy TGAA as much, it was good, but it was my least favourite Ace Attorney game. However, the second game was amazing, I really enjoyed it, it made me appreciate the first one more, and with Trials and Tribulations and Spirit of Justice they are my favourite games in the series.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it so much!
Yooooooooo let’s gooooooooo
Commenting early for algorithmic juice
Ok now that I've finished the video...
I liked what you said about not trying to overthink things on a first playthrough. I agree... I of course would much rather the game draw me in and get big reactions out of me than have me figure out all the twists way ahead of time and break my immersion.
I also thought it was funny how you didn't really have an issue with Sholmes ultimately saving the day in the end. Having watched many of your previous videos I was expecting that to be a part you would take issue with.
Finally, I was surprised to hear you were so sure that we are going to get more Ace Attorney games in the future. It has been over 5 years since the last truly new game (TGAA2) in the franchise. It felt like a miracle that we even got the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles release in 2021 seeing as those games sold so poorly in Japan. And then, if a new game were to come out, would it be a new Great Ace Attorney game or a continuation of Spirit of Justice? I want to believe that we could get a new game but I just don't know...
I'm optimistic that we'll get a new Ace Attorney game because of the cliffhanger that SOJ left us on and because the sales for TGAA Chronicles (the version we got in 2021) sold well. I will admit at the time I scripted the video, apart of my confidence was that leak that said Ace Attorney 7 would come out fairly soon after TGAA Chronicles. Still I think we will get an Ace Attorney 7 soon. The lead writer Yamazaki, did leave so I think a part of why it is taking so much time to get a new game is figuring out who's going to write AA7 and how the team will continue the story
Honestly this case is great. I've seen a lot of people saying it's their favorite but some stuff just feel kinda off for me.
You talked about it getting predictable whenever you played it, and i felt the same way, i don't think it's what the case does, just how long it drags.
You know Stronghart will be the villain and his design alone made it clear since you saw him for the first time, but he takes sooo much time to fall after he confesses, it gets really tiring. You already know what happened and how it will end but he just lets you stockpile evidence for way longer than it should, also just don't understand why he let you investigate after you put blame on him on the first place, he could have just.. ended it there, without confessing, what are you gonna do... it would be BAD for the justice system reputation, but confessing is way worst, so it felt really strange he did that.
That being said, Sholmes revealing they "don't have time for games" and actually deducting everything correctly was a nice moment, and the music and presentation in the case we're phenomenal. A really good ending case tho definitely not my favorite. The game itself is EXTREMELY CONSISTENT and one of the best in the series, tho i still prefer AAI2 for sure
YESSSSSSS, just what I needed for New Year of TGAA :D
Enjoy!
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I could say the same thing here while I was blindly watching the playthrough of it and a couple of my "What ifs" seem to have predicted or guessed right.
(Like thinking "What if the culprit is a *judge*" and then saying "I knew it!")
It’s a really good case and game. Hard to say what my favorite game is between this, Spirit of Justice, miles Edgeworth 2 and trials and tribulations.
Yea it's hard to say between some of the favourites. I think this game, T&T and AAI2 are the fan favourite games. SOJ used to be a fan favourite but I feel like it's popularity has gone down
@@DerpyHiro Spirit of Justice is great. I don’t care about the consensus.
@@dannysmi7162 Agreed haha, SOJ has lost a lot of its popularity, though ik everyone loved it the first couple years it was out. And I still love it, except the DLC case
I really like how you compare Adventures and Resolve at the end. You explained really well why it is that I seem to be the only one who prefers the first one. Ryunosuke and Susato are my favorite Ace Attorney characters, and bith got kinda shafted in Resolve, despite the fact that the game sets itself up in such a way to make you think they both get a lot out of it, whether it's through Susato being playable or Ryunosuke getting a chapter and Pursuit theme named after him.
Adventures is definitely the best game in the series when it comes to building the main and assistant character in my opinion. Also yea I don't understand why this case is called the Resolve of Ryunosuke Naruhodo. I guess he has that moment where he comes to a decision on what he wants to do but he's not the main focus of the case
@@DerpyHiro Maybe you didn't pay attention to it at the time, but after Kazuma's return, Ryu had a lot of questions about himself and his role as a lawyer. In the first place, if he had become a lawyer, it was to pursue the dream of his best friend whom he held in high esteem and not for himself. Now that Kazuma is back in England as was originally planned, what will he do ?
With Gregson's death and Van Zieks' involvement, Ryu gets into this story because he is personally involved, which leaves him no time to think about his situation. And once again, Kazuma asks him to do him a favor which reminds us that this was the initial reason for his presence in London.
So he officially takes over the defense of Van Zieks and after the first day of the trial Mikotoba compliments his performance And when you pay attention to what he thinks at that moment you quickly understand that Ryu lives in Kazuma's shadow (He thought that Mikotoba was complimenting Kazuma and not him). It was at this moment that Mikotoba asked him if he would be willing to return to Japan as a lawyer because he thinks that Ryu could be the person needed to change the judicial system there and Ryu promises him to think about it.
Personally I don't agree with what you said about Ryu no longer evolving in Resolve. Although he has become a good lawyer, it is his vision of the concept of truth that is redefined. At the end of Van Zieks' trial, Ryu makes a speech about this. Additionally, the discussion with Mikotoba shows us that he finally found what he wanted to do now, what he RESOLVED to do.
We started the game with a Ryu wanting to pass on Kazuma's legacy and we ended the game with a Ryu who wants to write his own story. That was what The great ace attorney Chronicles was about.
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This case is very good
However there are some problems
As you said Jigoku could just throw the body after the departure to Britain
Also Ryunosuke said that Jigoku is a just a witness in court, but it feels like they forgot that Jigoku has DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY so I don't understand why Jigoku Didn't say
"Oh, I am a minister of justice and I demand to be tried in my country" or something like that and Stronghart would agree since we know why
Also the blackmailing Jigoku, no evidence that he killed Genshin (they should say that Stronghart has a photo or recording (recording came out after Victoria died but if Sholmes used hologram so recording wouldn't be impossible)
Killing Drebber would raise so many questions so that is why he was spared, although they should explain it
Though I don't get why Tusspel wasn't killed
Also I can't comprehend why Mael didn't not target Yujin since he was with Wilson
Yes, I get it, the signature is what throw him off, but I would kill ANY witnesses if I was Mael
Furthermore am I the only one who despised the ending of the trial (hologram stuff only)
Like couldn't Sholmes, as you said left the recording or I don't know BRING THE QUEEN TO THE STAND?? Sholmes is capable of doing that so can't he?
Yes the hologram stuff explained why queen knows How the trial progressed, but couldn't just Sholmes say to Ryunosuke to turn on the doll so the queen would hear everything?
Like come on this just felt lazy and it proves that realistically it would be impossible to win
Honestly, it would be so satisfying seeing Stronghart and Queen just talking with each other
But despised that I like this case and the game itself
However, as the case alone I can't say this is the best final case (T&T beats it imo)
Yea Mael seemed very selective for who he would kill for no explained reason. Also don't worry you're not alone for hating the hologram stuff. Hologram Shlomes is very controversial.
I've already seen arguments for why the queen wasn't brought, one being that they couldn't create a whole model for the queen for just one scene.
NGL, I absolutly dispise the final trail of this game, but instead of listing my problems I have with it I'm gonna rewrite it. Well, I was, but the comment was to long for CZcams to except it due to the charater limit (CZcams doesn't warn you when you exced it). It took me like 3 hours to write and now that CZcams has denied me I have split my comment into chunks. Unfortunately I need to go 😴 and tommorow I have a very bizzy schedule, but I'll have done eventually.
Oof that is unfortunate. Copying your text every once in a while is a good way to backup most of your text just in case it gets lost. Hope you rest well for your busy day tomorrow
@@DerpyHiro ok so, I'm gonna write 7 replies to this comment. The 1st I'm gonna call "Jigoko boss fight". The 2nd is "the lead up to Mael being acused". The 3rd is "the Proffesor". The 4th is "the graveyard". The 5th is "Jigoko's confession". The 6th is "Mael's"confession"". The 7th is "the will".
Hopefully I'll have sufficient WiFi during the road-trip in order to write all of these replies before the end of the day.
@@DerpyHiro chapter 1: So the boss fight begins with Jigoku stating that he has nothing to do with the incident, which means that he can't testify about anything relevant and - as he's about to leave - Ryu presents The assassin exchange program telegram. Jigoku then testifies, stating that those 4 names don't prove that an assassin exchange exists, let alone that he is 1 of the masterminds behind and then acuses Hosonaga of planting that piece of evidence in his office due to the fact that Ryu explained to the court that Hosonaga broke in to Jigoku's office and didn't use a warrent in order to find. Before the cross-examination can begin, Kazuma interogates Jigoku, but Jigoku continues to deny everything and - because Kazuma is in worse standing with the judge then Jigoku is - Mael desides to strike that entire conversation between the 2, because Kazuma bagering the witness and Mael then warns him not to do it again, less he be held in contempt of court. Ryu is able to break this testimony by 1st pressing a certain statement, which results in Jigoku getting annoyed and him then stating that he and Gregson never encountered each other during the week in question, which Ryu counters by presenting the pocket watch crown, thus proving that they didn't just meet, but were also fighting each other.
In Jigoku's 2nd testimony, he states that when he returned to his cabin after having eating lunch, Gregson amboushed him while saying "the Reaper sends his regards". Jigoku was able to prevent his own murder attempt, but was unable to restrain Gregson in order to hand him over to the crew, due to the fact that Gregson escaped. He then states at the end of his testimony that every action he undertook was out of self defence, which means that Mael doesn't have the legal right to strip away his diplomatic immunity. Before Ryu can cross-examen him, Jigoku informs the court that the appartement that he was staying at was burned down and that his clothes are the only survivers and uses that to argue that his life is still in danger. Ryu presses Jigoku again and makes him ad in a new statement in his testimony during the cross-exam where in a states that the crew would have heard a shot going off in his cabin as they were on patrole, which Ryu break by bringing up the evacuation drill.
Jigoku points out that that doesn't prove that he is the killer as he has no means to transport the body from the ship to Hugh's home, which Ryu counters by presenting the photo with the trunk and then brings up the fact that Jigoku is an ambassador, which means that he can skip inspections. Jigoku points out that presenting the trunk is useless due to fire, however Ryu realises that Jigoku was hiding in that very trunk, which means that the blood traces are now stuck to his clothes and with that he's able to prove that Jigoku is the killer. However, because our heroes were unable to prove his motive to commit murder, Jigoku simply repeats that he did everything out of self defence.
In his 3rd testimony, Jigoku states that after killing Gregson that he noticed a note fall out of 1 of Gregson's pockets, stating that Gregson will meet the Reaper tommorow and Jigoku then desided to frame Barok for the murder in order to expose him as the reaper in order for to make sure that his life can't be threatened again. Ryu is unable to break this testimony.
@@DerpyHiro chapter 2: Before Mael can declaire Barok guilty on the charces of attempted murder and being the reaper, Barok swoops in and testifieds that - acording to the defence's theory - Jigoku and someone on the English side of things collaborated with each other in order to kill Wilson and Gregson and that Barok's conection with the 2 men isn't sufficient enough to want them killed. Ryu counters by presenting Klint's autopty report, which then leads into Mael being acused of being the 2nd mastermind.
Mael denies as he has no reason to want them dead, but Susato counters by bringing up the fact that Mael is about to be promoted to Attorney General and so wanted to have them killed in order for them to not mess up his promotion. Mael then states that there is no evidence that proves that he's corrupt, which results in Ryu asking for the professor case to be re-trailed. Mael states it's useless as the people who can give testimony are all dead, but Ryu counters by bringing up the fact that Yujin was also involved and that he's perfectly cabable of giving testimony. Mael shuts this down, declaires Barok guilty and then has the bailiffs arrest the defence team for contempt of court, but before the bailiffs can make their arrests, Sholmes swoops in and incites the gallary into pressuring Mael to continue the trail and before he leaves gives Ryu a costum made safe and tells him that "A is 1" (if the wrong combantion is put in then the safe perma-locks which to prevent Mael from stealing what's inside).
@@DerpyHiro chapter 3: the boss fight against Mael go's the same as in the originel game, but when Ryu acuses Klint of being the professor, Barok flips out and argues that so long as no evi is presented that proves beyond all doubt that Klint is the Proffesor than Ryu's entire case falls apart. Ryu then figures out that the combantion to the safe is Klint but in numbers and reveals the dog collar from the 2nd Kokoro case and is thus able to prove that Genshin is innocent.
Mael then pulls a Tournabout by acusing Barok of being the professor(Barok is neighter allergic nor scarred of dogs so Mael's theory still works). Genshin likely came to the wrong conclusion, which is why he murdered Klint and Barok - in order to protect himself - masterminded the jailbreak in order to lead Genshin in a faulse sence of security so he could than kill him in the graveyard as Genshin would have likely outed Barok as the real Proffesor if he was legit send to the gallows.