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TNVC Tech Talk Vol. 1: Single Versus Dual Tube Night Vision Devices
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2018
- TNVC Pro-Staff members and SMEs Chip Lasky, Sam Houston, and Don Edwards sit down to discuss single versus dual tube Night Vision Goggles (NVGs), such as the TNV/PVS-14 monocular night vision device, and TNV/Sentinel, TNV/DTNVG, and AB Night Vision MOD-3 Bravo binocular night vision devices.
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Back in OEF 2001-02 our squad leaders were issued with PVS-14’s. Team leaders and riflemen with PVS-7’s. 14’s were weapon mounted and 7’s helmet mounted. That’s how we rolled back in the day.
Im one of those guys that still prefers a monocular on one eye so I can scan/shoot with a thermal scope on the other eye. Sometimes, I even like a variable power day optic in certain temperature and lighting conditions. Not to mention “react to white light” drills. Cool video though. Hope to see more videos in the future.
Really looking forward to Tech talks. Thank you for your patience, because I know you guys answer a lot of the same questions everyay. If I have questions about products or setup, you guys have always been very helpful over the phone. Cheers!
Happy to help
Talking smack about the venerable 7's... Blasphemy!
*Edit: On a serious note, you guys are spot on and thanks for sharing the knowledge. I do like to collect old night vision, and the pvs7's are imo the OG's of gen 3's and love my set and still love to look through them. I do have 14's as well as duels, and even collect old gen 1 stuff to trade that I still think beats a flashlight in land nav (not totally useless). I will say you are correct, most of the time you will be faster when both eyes see something, dual tubes better if you can afford... however if I was rolling in say an urban area where there was still a lot of shadows and ambient light I would stick to just a single 14 over 1 eye just for better awareness of lighting. 14's also got the gain adjustment which a lot of night vision lacks... love that feature... and the 7's got a focus-able IR spot (never needed but fun retro feature). Thanks again for the knowledge, Ill definitely recommend you guys as something to watch for new buyers.
Great info except I have the PV7 gen3 bioccular and love it. I guess its one of them things where you dont miss what you dont know.
They bring the night vision expert on the show but dont let him talk
seriously
Right, why is dude in the middle even here?!
would you recommend getting a PVS14 with a higher quality tube (L3 gen 3 white phos film less) or a dual tube set up with lesser quality tubes (perhaps basic green phos). From what I’ve seen it seems that a top notch 14 can go for around 4500ish and i can prob find a lower end dual for the 6-6500 range. Would you recommend the quality of the 14 over the ability to have an extra tube if that extra price difference is manageable?
Gen 3 is far better then gen 2 (durability, life span, resolution, etc) far better to get a gen 3 single or save up for a gen 3 dual:)
@@CIABlackOps00 What about a Gen 3 unfilmed white phos monocular vs Gen 3 thin filmed green phos binos? And why.
Very helpful video. I for one appreciate it.
Great video, thanks. Do you have a similar one on mounts, that seems almost more complex.
what's the diff in filmed vs unfilmed, looking to buy soon but not sure the pros and cons of filmed and unfilmed
Hey guys, great video. If you don't mind my asking here, I've been saving up and in a few months I can probably get a monocular, what do you guys consider to be the best way to scale up from a monocular at first, and then way down the road, to a dual? Bridge adapter? Mod 3? Cannibalism? Thanks in advance.
I've been researching this question a bit. Hardest part about it would be converting the Mx-11769 tube to a mx-10160 and then finding another tube with similar stats. Once you got the mx10160 style tubes and pvs14 optics, throwing them in a dual tube housing is relatively straight forward.
That's what I did, started with a pvs14, than bought a 2nd pvs14 and a bridge. It's heavy, but with counterweights its not too bad.
I came by to see if there was a conflict of interest here 😂
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Hey guys, what are your thoughts on running dual PVS-14s? I know they are heavier than say a set of sentinals... But are there any other down sides? Thanks
you might have to adjust the gain on both units insted of one dial like some dual tube systems offer. but besides that its pretty much the same. like you say the weight and overall size of the thing is pretty bulky
dual -14's are heavier, sometimes 2x heavier, not as rugged, tend to bounce around on the bridge mounts vs a dedicated system, uses 2x the batteries and unless your tubes are matched like what we do for our dual tube goggles its just not a good idea.
Thanks guys. I'm looking specifically at running dual 14s simply for the fact that if I went out with a friend, wife, ect. that I can split one off, so that we were both running a monocular. When I'm solo or with someone else who has their own NOD set up, I can go back to dual tubes. What do you think? Good solution? Or should I just focus on a dedicated dual tube set up? No question that I'm going to be buying from you guys... I'm looking for the best ideas for what I'm trying to achieve, from the guys who know what's what. Thanks
ABMOD3 is what you want
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If you have 3500 to spend dual gen 2hd or gen 3 single?
AR LEO A gen 3 set up will be noticeably clearer than gen 2. Dual vs single depends more on what you are using it for. I'd go with a gen 3 single tube to start off with since you can get an adapter to run a 2nd tube later on if your budget changes.
For LE use where lives are on the line I always recommend a good Gen3 device
Would you be better off getting gen2+ binoculars or a gen 3 pvs14, if your in that price range. I feel like I would have more control and comfortable with Googles but gen3 goggles would be out of my price range
Gen 3 seems to be the consensus from what I’ve seen what’s the point of having Binos If you can see shit
Thermal as weapon sight pvs14 for observation
Ok, maybe I don't listen well but how do you go 90% of the video saying how a monocular tube is better then end summing it all up with buy binocular "thats all I use"?!??!? I'm confused 🤪
What’s wrong with the pvs-7? Why do people hate them? They seeming they’d be pretty good to me. I’ve seen people say they suck but then no one gives any justification for saying that.
They’re an antique at this point
Do they make a articulating mount for a monocular or only for binos?
If you buy a mount for bridged 14s such as the new Pano mount or the Knightvision setup with the obverse shoe set, it will articulate similar to dual tubes. Not really worth it unless you're planning on buying a whole setup for bridged 14s
Can I order the ACT in Black Photonis 4G from you guys?
Go for the Echo+ instead, the 4G is only about 10% better.
Hell no
How do you zero IR pistol mounted laser while wearing pcs14?
the same way you'd zero a visible pistol laser
@@TNVCINC When I zero visible pistol laser I just align laser with iron sites. While wearing pvs14 over left eye at night I can't see iron sites clearly unless I focus pvs14 then I can't see target clearly. It's way harder to do. Thought there may be an easier way.
use the day light filter cover over your -14 to zero the laser during the day as a trick.
Also ditch the IR laser and get a NV compatible red dot, its 2018, not 2004. We've come a long way.
Aaah great idea on day time lens cover. I wish I had the money to upgrade but unfortunately I don't so just have to make due. Thanks for help. Interesting enough, I just tried your suggestion, pvs14 with day filter on an seen IR laser though the pvs14 but when I tryed aligning the laser with front site, the ir dot wasn't visible though fastfire holo site mounted on top of pistol. More weird science?
em Burgess go out at night, shoot the laser, check target and adjust until satisfactory. Piece of glint tape or lume tape will help keep your point of aim repeatable
I get that the PVS7 is old, but I wouldn’t discount it for being obsolete. Let’s not forget in T2 the “obsolete” T800 defeated the new and improved T1000.
Your thoughts on pvs7 2+ ???
Avoid unless extremely limited by budget.
@Michael Jeffrey Banzali avoid PVS7 unless as a last resort. The best advice I was given when shopping for NODs was to buy the best thing available for my budget. PVS14s are considered the "entry level" at this point.
Interesting john Lovell (warrior poet society) prefers a single tube.
No he doesn't.....I'm his A.I.
I was referencing this video
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old news Robert. John is a convert to the Church of Dual tubes and I am his messiah.
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Dam now I can’t use that as an excuse not to buy bono’s
Bingo
i own all of those shirts lol
Is Sam always that badass?
What is the story on Adam's Industries color night vision?
Its not true color, it provides green/yellow and oranges.
Bro dude in the middle makes me tweak with how much he looks like my second PL in recce
People always say i look familiar, I tell them I used to do alot of gay porn back in the day.
I thought that’s where I seen you from.
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Binoculars or goggles?
They are Nods, so you hook them to your helmet and you can pull them down to cover your eyes, granting you night vision, ect.
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Damn you got me
No one actually mounts their pvs14 to their M4. The peq makes aiming fucking stupid easy.
Plenty of people do it, ask me how I know.
Years ago class 1 lasers were not available to the public and weapons mounting was much more common.
i had no clue dual tube was two tubes