Piano Humidifier: Venta review
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- čas přidán 19. 03. 2018
- My experiences with several humidifiers to take care of my piano, and the recommended humidifier by Bösendorfer and Steinway for your piano. Hundreds of piano lessons available at www.key-notes.com
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I bought the LW 15 model to humidify the room I keep my acoustic guitars in. From November to May, it runs 24/7. I've used many different humidifiers over the years and this is the best. Easy to set and forget.
Hi David did you measure the humidity? If it's not too much trouble, could you please share your results and room size?
In the dead of winter, (Northern Illinois), I need to use another small table top humidifier along with the LW15. I want to keep the humidity level to at least 40% for my guitars. Depending on your location and your heat source, it might be all you need. I would opt for the next size larger. My guitar room is about 400 sq. ft.
@@davidcudlip6587 Thank you David, appreciate it! It's just for my tiny bedroom BTW, I'd like to get it from 30% to about 50% ideally. I simply like humid environments. I'm trying first with some plants, then I'll go from there!
Very soothing voice! Congratulations!
Thank you. This was by far the best review of a humidification system for a piano. Your video directed my research in the right direction. We are building a 1440 square foot house in the Sonoran desert. We will be placing a new upright Kawai K-500 in the great room. Based on my research, we have decided to purchase three of the Venta LW45 Comfort Plus Airwashers as a whole house system along with the Damp Chaser for an upright piano as extra precaution. I would love to see a followup to your review. Excellent work.
You’re a cheap clown for getting an upright. Get a grand or don’t get anything at all
My piano tuner has been telling me, for years, to get a Venta. I got my piano tuned a couple weeks ago and he was really concerned my humidity was at 14%!! I then tried many cheap humidifiers but they didn't work great. After watching this video, I just bought the Venta LW 45 Comfort Plus, for my Yamaha 7 foot grand piano. I am so excited to get it in the mail.
14% is dangerously low! Did your technician check the soundboard? Hopefully the wood is alright and the humidifier will save the day.
@@key-notes I don't think he checked the soundboard but I think it's ok. I have a cheap humidifier going now until I get the Venta in the mail. My hygrometer on piano is reading 32% humidity right now. (At least better than 14%). And, I have the humidifier on full blast. It fluctuates so much. Sometimes it gets up to 40%. Sometimes not. I really needed to get that Venta and I am looking really forward to using it!
It is so noble to sell your shoes in order to afford a Venta. And the piano of course.
The issue of humidity is far different in Colorado than in Illinois of course. Venta is the way go however. I will take your word on the piano.
I just hear the first 5 seconds and don't need more. You made the best choice with the piano ;)
The problem is summer. At least here, we tend to have humidity above 60% in the summer. The “DAMPP CHASER” has the advantage that it dries the air when the humidity is high. Not in the whole room, but at the piano itself, which is good. The best would probably be the Venta + DAMPP CHASER, I think.
60% actually isn’t too high. Even it occasionally hits around 70%, that won’t hurt your piano. It’s better for the humidity to be a little too high than too low. Fazioli for instance says that a healthy range for their pianos is 30-70%. A long-time Bösendorfer technician recently told me that their pianos tend to be happiest when the humidity is on the high side of the healthy range, so 55-60% is perfectly good. Steinway says that the ideal humidity for their instruments is 42%, but anything from 40 to 60% is considered normal. (Also, I don’t know whether Steinway has separate recommendations for their New York- and Hamburg-built pianos.)
I did have a student who lived in a tropical climate. Their indoor humidity would reach over 80% without a dehumidifier! Their family bought a Bösendorfer and they considered getting the Dampp Chaser system, but Bösendorfer said that in general it’s best to control the humidity in the whole room rather than just the microclimate around the piano itself. If this isn’t possible, they said, then the Dampp Chaser system can really be a lifesaver. You may be right that the combination of Venta plus Dampp Chaser may work best of all, depending on your climate.
@@key-notes The various recommendations are most likely partly related to the choice of wood used for the piano. But it's good to know that high humidity doesn't harm the piano that much. Yes, generally, it is better to control the humidity throughout the entire room, as it is also important for our health. Seen in this way, only Venta is completely sufficient. As a replacement for the DAMPP CHASER, you could also buy a normal dehumidifier. But you should be careful not to set both to the same humidity level, otherwise they will constantly run against each other😅
Does the venta do a good job of reducing dust in the room?
Wow! 😮
Hello! When the humidity is normal, around 45%, how much water does it evaporate per hour? And can you please tell if you use the venta special liquid to add in the water?
Artem I do use the Venta fluid. It doesn't take too much, so a bottle lasts me at least a season. I can't calculate the evaporation rate, which in any case depends on humidity, as the Venta outputs more as needed. Maybe there are better sources for answering this question?
Your speaking voice is perfect 👍Does it have an automatic shut off at 55? How do you know for certain it wont over humidify ? What hygrometer do you recommend?
The model I have is a basic one. SInce then, Venta has released versions of these models with built-in hygrometers, which they call "Comfort Plus" models. You can add a third-party or Venta-brand hygrometer to an existing humidifier, but if I were in the market today I would get one of these models with integrated hygrometer. The Comfort Plus models also claim to humidify faster, for what it's worth. www.venta-air.com/en_at/Comfort-Plus-LW45/7046501
I have the Comfort plus. To make note the hygrometer in the venta isnt accurate, it only records the humidity withint 30cm around the unit so you need to adjust the humidity of the unit to the desired room. The inbuilt hygrometer on my venta lw25 for instance is 5-10% higher than the hygrometer on my piano, where the venta is relatively next to my upright. It reads 55% at the bottom panel same as venta and 50 on top
Venta is well-known in Germany
Hi, thank you for the video it's very helpful. A piano store in Denver in the USA also recommended to me the Venta humidifiers. Do you know how much humidity does your Venta add to your room ? I am hesitating between the LW25 and LW45, I have a small piano room (about 12 square meters = 130 square feet) and the humidity goes down slightly below 20% in the winter, so I wonder if I should get the bigger model like you did. Dankeschön !
The Venta regulates the humidity to around 50%, so the humidity added depends on your environment and the setting you choose (low, medium, or high). The only difference between the LW25 and LW45 is the size of the tank. With a bigger tank, you won't have to refill it as often. Given that your humidity goes below 20% in winter, my guess is that the LW45 would be better even for the small room. 20% really is a dangerous level that could harm your piano if the air is that dry for any length of time. With a bigger model, you could go away for a couple days and not have to worry about the tank emptying. A salesperson strongly steered me away from the LW25 in favor of the LW45, even though my room met the specs for the smaller model. I now see he was no doubt right, and I'm glad I got the bigger Venta. Hope this helps.
@@key-notes I reside in a very dry climate- Northern NM, my smaller lw25 lasts for 4 days before I have to refill it with water. PS, I purchased my hardly used mint condition lw25 for $50.
@@bennyhill5775 we don’t care
Great info! I have 42% humidity in the room and 38% inside the piano, I hope my piano is safe. Can I ask you how old is your piano and how much did you paid for it?
Hi Daniel, sounds like your piano is perfectly safe at that level. My Imperial is a 2007 model. (The price is private!) It's winter now and the Venta is keeping it happy, and it's staying in tune really well.
@@key-notes you’re a clown
Congratulations on you piano! Amazing! If i might ask: Whats the price of the humidifier? :)
Stydras Thanks! The Venta was about € 300. A couple salespeople in different shops suggested getting a larger model, the LW45, even though theoretically the smaller model should suffice for my living room. I’m glad I did since I can be away for a few days and not have to worry about it running out of water so quickly.
@@key-notes That's quite hefty... But I guess in comparison to a Bösendörfer it's a quite small investment. Thanks! I also thought about getting a Grand, to be exact a Feurich 7 foot from 1920. I live in the south-west of germany so we naturally have quite a low air-humidity, about 30 to 40 at good days, so I should really invest in a humidifier but as a student there is not much money at hand. I guess I'll have to think about it some more...
I just bought the a Venta and my humidity hasn’t gone up and I have a Damp-Chaser too so I’m returning it and looking at a whole house humidifier. Venta is also pretty pricy.
It takes a few days for the humidity to rise as all wood furnishings in your room will absorb the moisture from the venta before the relative humidity of the room goes up. Its far better than the ultrasonic ones as these just shoot mist everywhere and the actual air cant absorb that level of moisture so you get water everywhere
@@4dventur35 I own a Venta, I also own an Air Innovations & the Air Innovations is a mist controlled humidifier but it does Not spray water droplets everywhere.
Phil, did you ever install a whole-house humidifier system? If you did, can you tell me what system that is? Any info is appreciated. Thank you.
@@dlmp70 No, I bought a second Venta and that brought it up but they have to be filled everyday and it's a pain.
@@philbarone4603 yes, that daily refill is what has me worried about Venta. Can’t go on a long vacation during winter months and have the house properly humidified.
A whole house system that has integrated plumbing might be the only solution in such situations. But I’ve no idea where to start looking. Clearly a professional install would be needed.
In the market for a grow room humidifier... little did I think the best review I'd find would be provided by a well-dressed man sitting at a grand piano, but here we are.
If I only use distilled water with the Venta, then do I still have to use the Venta cleaning solution?
I’m not the right person to answer this question, but FWiW I think we do need the solution in any case. I don’t know if we need quite as much of it as recommended, and at least in my part of the world a bottle easily gets me through the winter season, which is when I need to switch on the humidifier here.
@@key-notes Ok. I think I will just use tap water then. I see they have 2 product cleaners. I know I need to purchase the Venta water additive- do I use this use every 10-14 days? And also do I need to I get the Venta humidifier cleaner to use every 6 months?
@@christsservant5472 Personally, I find that the additive lasts a long time. I refill the humidifier whenever it’s around half empty or so, and most of the time I don’t bother to add more additive. As for cleaning, I just do this at the end of the winter season when I unplug the Venta and put it away till next winter, but I seem to live in a very different climate where a humidifier is only really needed in winter. This winter hasn’t been especially cold or dry, so it hasn’t even been used as much as usual.
Ok. Thank you for all this information. :)@@key-notes
@@key-notes I got my Venta in the mail today!! Yay!!! It's up and running! I love it!
If you live in the northern United States, where indoor humidity can sit in the low teens to low 20's for most of the winter, you'd need one or two of these in each room of your house....which gets extremely expensive and inconvenient. I live in a 1100 square foot condo in Chicago and dump 11 gallons a day into the air (evaporative console humidifier) in order to raise the humidity to just 30% in the dead of winter.
Yeah, I should have gotten an electric keyboard instead of my Yamaha piano.
How close do you keep your Venta to your piano? (Distance)
I keep it out in the room, about 5 feet away from the piano. You definitely shouldn't place a humidifier directly next to a piano. The same goes for heaters!
@@key-notes Thanks! My venta just arrived today so just wanted to make sure I placed it a safe distance from the piano.
@@Pluto002 still using it? Was it worth it?
@@gustavopaulette3496 Yeah, it’s been great. I live in the Northeastern US where winters are pretty dry, and my Venta helps keep the humidity in the room where I keep the piano between 40 - 50% (as opposed to 20 - 30% without it). It’s pretty quiet, doesn’t leave any residue in the room (unlike steam humidifiers), and uses low electricity since it’s not heated. Also fairly easy to clean, so happy with the purchase.
Thank you for stating the obvious, but i suppose the obvious needs to be stated in the piano world.
rich man problems xd
I wish!