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Cocteau Twins- Heaven Or Las Vegas (First Listen)
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2019
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When you're in the mood, Cocteau Twins can really hit the spot like no other.
Like a cold beer on a hot day after a long shift in the sun
Shit I’m always in the mood
I invent lyrics when I listen to them.
Jackass Whisky and Pinto Beans and Liz invents lyrics as she sings them :)
She’s actually speaking English she just pronounces everything creatively lol
Me too.
@@Chamomile369 she’s Scottish and an angel. Incredible !
@@Chamomile369 she's said she makes up a lot of words too, it's more about the emotion she's trying to convey with her voice. And she's fucking amazing at it
I have been in love with Cocteau Twins since 1986 when a girl on my bus took her headphones off and put them on my ears. I thought I was in heaven, lol. Oomingmak with and without vocals is one of my favorites as well as Bluebeard. HOLV is a bit commercial but still a great song.
I just became aware of them. If I had heard them in 86, I would have lost my mind.
I know it’s late to reply but oommingmsk! 😢 But also How to Bring a blush to the snow. 😢
4 AD had an entire roster of amazing artists.
Yes. Yes they did. Amazing label back in the day.
i love the lyrics on this album:
its up to you to create them :)
Love it
this is one of those songs you HAVE to listen to at least a few times in a row before you die.. makes you feel nostalgia, bitter sweet meloncholic feelings, a longing for a past you didnt really have or are viewing thru rose tinted glasses.. it brings many good and many bad feelings to the surface when you listen to this song a few times late late at night... makes you evaluate your life and the decisions you made and the experiences youve had..
Perfectly put - plus I think the title says it all, is it Heaven or Las Vegas? Was it the romantic, dream-like time I remember or something darker and more mundane?
Honestly - this is such a great description. I couldn’t quite put it into words. It kinda knocked the breath out of my lungs when I heard this song the other day. It knew me. Familiar. I was born in 1991. So although I would not have remembered when this song came out - but the emotional tie I have to this song is indescribable. Lol like what is happening!!??
All their albums were perfect.
knew their shit
HOLV is in my top 10 albums from the 90's, and possibly in my top 10 of all time. Takes me back to the days of lava lamps and chilling with my girlfriend and buddies in a cloud of smoke, in the early hours of the morning. Good times, less complicated. People were happier and less angry and divided.
Love the nostalgia and memories, ty Warren
I bought this CD when it first came out, tried for several years to get friends to dig it with me, never enticed anyone with Liz Fraser's sweet vocals and so I stopped trying.
That's a shame! It's so nice to share music with loved ones. I've tried to get my family to like things I like and I've succeeded a little bit!
Jon, it’s obvious you have been musical tastes ahead of those of many of your friends. I’m in the same boat. This album is a masterpiece. We both know it, despite others’ shortcomings.:😀
.....until Teardrop, of course.....
Try the album called Treasure. It's the best of Cocteau Twins, in my opinion. She sings in an invented tongue, more chacateristical from their early work. Very climatic and full of sound textures. A lyrical athmosphere that will drive you into a dreamlike landscape.
Sounds good Luiz; thanks!
Treasure is one of my top 5 albums. It is amazingly good
Treasure was the first Cocteau album I bought and it;s still the best.
Strangely enough, Cocteau Twins themselves (especially Robin Guthrie) said they didn' really like what they did on "Treasure". I like it very much, but it's true they did even better on later albums.
@@cuckoofan Artists may have many reasons not to like an album. Maybe they didn't enjoy the people they worked with, or the studio, or whatever. Also, they changed and evolved, this takes them to a much earlier stage, which apparently they can't connect with now.
dreampop masterpiece
They basically invented the dreampop genre, almost single-handedly. There were influences from punk-pop, and that is where they drew some inspiration from initially, but they turned it into this sound which started the whole genre.
Though I’m primarily a prog rock guy, the UK was cranking out some interesting music. Cocteau Twins, Japan, David Sylvian, Ultravox and Dead Can Dance were very interesting.
Yeah, I'm a prog head too, but I have a lot of time for British indie music from this era.
I feel like it's this fairly interior feel this nation has, like a warm pub with good conversation. We thrive on gentle and careful attention to something quite exciting, and that's led to that specifically British (maybe it's just me that hears it) sound. Are you saying that prog isn't particularly British though? Cause to me it feels very much do. Interested to hear your thoughts
ghosts is one of the greatest songs of all time
She's often called 'the voice of God'. Appeared on Massive Attack's teardrop. In most of her songs it feels she isn't even getting out of 2nd gear vocally. Proud to day she's from Glasgow, my home town.
Nothing to do with Glasgow
She's from Grangemouth in Lothian .
Joma 65 I always thought she was weegie, she sounds it in interviews
@@difruntanguls She does a little mate , Grangemouth only 20 mins away from outskirts of Glasgow . Heard her in interviews over the years and her accent sounds English .
as soon as the song started playing it takes me back to my 20's. felt with every fiber of my being. hours spent playing this album. oof! so good!
One of my all-time favorite bands. A deep rich history. The story of “lyrics” is a long one. Take a listen to “Cico Buff” or “Pitch the Baby”. There’s a lot to this band
This album will always have a special place for me. I listened to their E.P.s in Iraq. Mostly "Blue Bell Knoll." Then heard this album when I got back-accessible. Forgot about them for 20 years. rediscovered and it was good. Still hard to listen to "Blue Bell Knoll," in fact I don't.
Thanks for watching and sharing that man.
Love Cocteau Twins! Dreamy is right...The sound envelopes you. Try Pearly Dew-Drops, and my personal fave: Persephone (studio versions)!
Pearly dew drops is great!
Cocteau twins are a miracle of sound, the Sundays also once in your system will always say with you
Crushed is my absolute favourite Cocteau Twins song. There isn’t a single day that goes by where I don’t listen to this song.
One of my most favorite songs also. My favorite album is Victorialand.
Cocteau Twins..Blue bird,
Pearly Dew Drops Drops...
Both are a must listen.
This is my #1 favorite band of all time, #2 is Steely Dan and I'm so happy people are making reaction vids to this those groups.
Ty Ana😄
My wife was a huge Cocteau Twins fan when we met. I really grew to like their sounds, and my wife grew to like my favorite (after The Beatles), Kate Bush.
Wow.. I like 5 Justin 😊.. Love the vocals.. And them guitars are gorgeous ♥️
Wonderful atmospheric sound to this song. 😊
I've heard of the Cocteau Twins.. But never listened to them butty. Very trance like imo.
Great review too Justin 😊
This is an hidden gem 💎
Amazing voice and dreamy music...... love it
Took me years to work out the lyrics and I am Scottish! Good luck, the album and the band are amazing anyway. Start with 'Heaven or Las Vegas' :)
Only heard the album a few months back. Already one of all time favourite albums.
In regards to the Cocteau twins it’s not a cliche… they really are on another level.
Hypnotic, dreamy, powerful. In a league of their own.
Cocteau twins are one of my favorites!
I highly recommend listening to either Head Over Heels or Victorialand which were the two albums I listened to over and over again as I was falling asleep in my junior & senior years in high school.
“When mama was moth,” is one of my favorite songs by them, it gets stuck in my head every so often.
Dude I liked this, I'm so ready for more. Its hard not to listen to more off screen lol
@@JustJP So much more!
This is my first listen and I liked the song musically, vocally and melodically. As Manny would say, turn off the brain and allow the music to take you as you float along on the melody. Good choice.
Absolutely agreed. Very chill
Check out Bluebell Knoll, it's on a different planet.
keep your brain on, honestly. You'll miss more than you realise.
For this group I no longer bother with the lyrics at all. It's more a matter of emotion rather than what the lyrics mean. Similar to Nirvana or other groups that throw words and phrases together.
One of my favourite albums of all time. Glorious dreamy music.
Thoroughly enjoyed this for the first time. Thank you may I have another?
Absolutely!
I like their early songs; Garlands and From the Flagstones. Both amazing songs.
Great reaction, loves me some Cocteau Twins! Try some Siouxsie and the Banshees- Spellbound is a good place to start!
or their song "Dazzle"
If you're clinically bipolar, great music on your downs. Helps to climb back up.
Awesome band, worth listening to the albums
Good call on the Cure comparison; it has that dark, murky Cure groove. But then on top of that you get these bright, ABBAesque vocals, and sparkly Siouxsie & the Banshees textures.
Interesting to compare this to The Cure. Their album 'Disintegration' is indeed very dreamy although it is a totally different genre. I would recommend 'The same deep water as you' from that album. Very atmospheric.
Cherry Coloured Funk is fabulous.
Please react to I wear your ring from Cocteau Twins, Liz Fraser, she is the voice of Teardrop from the band Massive ATTACK, her voice is amazing. Best singer
Thanks Biba, I love MA and never realized the correlation. Thank you
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Allison Shaw may be even better...as hard as that is to believe
@@loudane9962 The Cranes are such an acquired taste, when she goes into the little girl voice it might turn some people off...
eboe all art is subjective. Shaw’s “little girl voice” is her natural voice. Liz’s yodeling can turn people off as well
Amazing song
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
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Most Cocteau Twins lyrics are nothing more than words that sound good together. They often did not put lyrics together that make sense. This was the first album, where they used actual "lyrics" on most of the songs.
Cocteau Twins are the best band ever. Listen to their Treasure album. Amazing beginning to end!!
Just a little trivia from a huge Cocteau Twins and The Cure fan, I have no idea if someone already commented this but: Robert Smith from the cute was listening to Cocteau Twins quite a bit before Disintegration came out. He even listened to the album Treasure by CT while he was getting ready for his marriage and he described it as the most romantic sound he had ever heard. I am pretty sure Disintegration was heavily inspired by the Cocteau Twins sound, that's why you found Plainsong similar to this.
They have a rich catalog of nice songs.
Still one of my top favorites.
Saw them live for both their Heaven or las Vegas and four calendar cafe tours in the early nineties.
I’d kill a man to listen to this for the first time again
I love this band. My favourite band, in fact. I discovered their discography backwards and had always wished they had done some darker material. Low and behold, they have! Their early stuff is much darker but still mesmerisingly beautiful. They're one of the few bands in existence where it's absolutely necessary to explore their entire collection. The EPs, the demos, the compilations... They're all full of gems.
The Cocteau Twins' singer, Liz Fraser, gave one of the most spectacular and idiosyncratic vocal performances I've ever heard on a cover version of Tim Buckley's "Song to the siren" by This Mortal Coil. The music on the track is very minimal indeed but it's all about the voice. Highly recommended. Also, I note that you've reacted to a lot of Genesis/Gabriel songs but don't appear to have done Gabriel's "Game without frontiers", which was a top 10 hit in the UK in 1980.
I guess CZcams thinks the only music I like is Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Rush (I subscribe to several reactor channels who mainly do classic rock but so what?), because why haven’t they recommended your channel to me? I love The Smiths, The Cure, Cocteau Twins, and a lot of post-punk, late-80’s and 90’s music. Subscribed!
Haha, welcome over Sarah! Thank you for joining :D
Listen to the album “Four Calendar Cafe” ....at least once! This is where they peak musically!
Shoe-Gaze is what genre I put it in…
i played this album on tape in my car on repeat iin the 90@s. not everybody knew who they were!
They deserve the recognition!
@@JustJP if you listen to their album Four Calendar Cafe on you tube (Summerhead and song Crush), it's just as good.! I read her style of singing is Glossololia. I wear your ring is a lovely track.
Talking about dream, try Alison, by Slowdive (those guitars will knock you down to make you levitate). It's one of the most simple, better constructed and effective pop songs on the western hemisphere. Try it.
One of my top 10 favorite records of all time… the guitar players name is robin guthrie he’s is known for making the watery guitar sound famous! ppl like Johnny marr from the smiths and Dave gavurin from the sundays were inspired by his musical genius and watery sound. And u can tell in all of there music that they release has guthries signature sound
Cocteau twins are pure gold,both with Dead can dance and other 4AD stuff.Have a good listening!
If you think this is good have a listen to their debut album Garlands. Liz Frazer was still only a teenager when she wrote it and it is mind blowing.
Cock-toh is the pronunciation. Love this band
My favorite vocalist of all time. And one of my favorite bands.
I think she made up her own language for her songs as the are all mostly sung in that way , The greatest part for me and why the group was so profound as far as connecting with my heart, is that I could conjure up my own interpretation of the meaning which with it's build up crescendo's and landscape was open and thus it caught me during that time searching for love playing hard clubbing that and house music and many other genres filled my head with and we're the sound tracks of my life It gave Me goose bumps
Try Scottie Politti wood Bees was a radio play but it's the other teams that are really much better
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I've heard their name not their music though. I stop listening to popular music (commercial radio in 1975)
I liked this song. I like the feel and vibe.
Will check out more of their tunes.
Good in an iPod random mix, or for taking time to relax.
You truly need to take a listen to their older albums. Garlands is an album with many haunting songs that have more vocal fireworks. I grew up listening to this band, as one of my favorites back in the day, and Elizabeth Frasure just has this operatic quality that is nothing short of heaven IMO. I hope you have a chance to check out more of their work!
Thanks Zanna!
JustJP, no problem! Btw, if you have a chance, review this Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds song/performance. I’d love to hear your thoughts!
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Elizabeth Fraser the vocalist created her own words for a lot of her vocals or sung sounds for want of a better word. It's part of their charm I think. Cheers from Down Under;)
It’s time for you to hit Cocteau Twins again. Genesis and Rush are my two favorite (all-time) bands, but Cocteau Twins, Massive Attack, Prefab Sprout, Deacon Blue, and Everything But The Girl are also huge influences. Prince loved Cocteau Twins. Check out “Spooning Good Singing Gum” or “Cico Buff.” There are no actual lyrics.
I think with this album they began stepping downwards. The previous album Blue Bell Knoll, which I don't listen very often (not on my favorites) they did, imo, one of their best songs ever. The song is called (look and the name, for it tells a lot of the Cocteaux were about) Itchy Glowbo Blow. Dense and tense, as I always say. For that one, the album worth it.
Cocteau Twins are not about lyrics, but asmophere and a very creative way of displaying a mystique. I highly recommend listening to The Moon And The Melodies (colaboration with Harold Budd), Blue Bell Knoll, Victorialand, Treasure and the Love's Easy Tears EP. Also after Blue Bell Knoll they started having a more mainstream approach to their sound, which is not a bad thing, but it takes away a lot of their magic
Thank you Posidonia; I'll definitely have to do more
Totally agree, especially for "Love's Easy Tears" EP which is just great. Same for "Echoes in a Shallow Bay" EP. So interesting and experimental. Actually, "Garlands" is the only album I find inferior, sounds a bit cold and boring and Elizabeth's voice is not as great as in the next albums. I feel very surprised that so many people recommend it.
@@cuckoofan Yeah Love's Easy Tears is easily my favorite record from them. It just has these chord progressions and production that makes it sound from outer space. Garlands is their darkwave aproach. I love it as well, but it's definitely not dream pop lol
@@tokenofdevotion I guess it would be very difficult for me to choose a favorite piece amongst what they've done, everything (except "Garlands) sounds brilliant and moving to me. I just love "HoLV", but "Victorialand" is so special, and "Blue Bell Knoll" definitely impresses me vocally. Some EPs, as I said already, are just as great as some albums, and there are some songs on other EPs, or unreleased tracks like "the High Monkey-Monk" which are incredible pieces of work. Cocteau Twins was a unique band and I really miss them!
another love's easy tears maniac checking in here :). those eyes that mouth!
Just about everything on 4AD is really good especially if you like goth/shoe-gaze. There's a great compilation album called "Lonely as an Eyesore," to introduce you to some of the best 4AD bands like: Cocteau Twins, Xymox, and my favorite goth band Dead Can Dance. There are several epic movies that feature the voice of Lisa Gerrard, who sings for DCD.
Liz Frazer has the most beautiful voice. Shoegaze heaven.
JP give Cocteau Twins another try!! Do Carolyn’s Fingers!!
If you want more dream and less pop, listen to there record Victorialand!
The good old '80s and '90s!
This is part of a subgenre called "shoegaze". If you liked this one, try a few from Slowdive. Sugar from the Pill from their newer album is good, as well as Alison from Souvlaki. Also My Bloody Valentine's song Only Shallow is another classic shoegaze tune.
I've heard of those bands, but never had a chance to get into them. May be the time...
This is actually strictly dream pop. Their other album treasure is more shoegaze and ambient.
You should explore more songs of Cocteau Twins, they're really amazing. Elizabeth Fraser has "God's voice".
Thanks! You're right, I should definitely so more soon
‘Goddess’s’ voice 😜
Songs "Carolyn’s Fingers" or "Alice". I love all their music. I discovered them like a one year ago, thanks The Lovely Bones movie. I fell in love with Elizabeth Fraser when I saw some CT videos on CZcams.
Glad you like the song. I don’t think you’ll get very far interpreting their lyrics. Just enjoy the mood !
I am glad this and other Heaven or Las Vegas reviews are up on youtube, but I feel like this song is to CT what Rehab was to Amy Winehouse. Most people remember Rehab, but songs like Back to Black and Valerie are 100x better and more interesting. Not sure how and why everyone keeps digging up this album and song. Songs like Lazy Calm, Pandora (for Cindy) and Serpentskirt are way more interesting and representative of the genre (IMO).
Thanks for watching D! Honestly I just looked up CT on Google and this was one of the top songs so I chose it. I'm up for more though!
Liz Frazer's voice will live forever.
You have to remember its the 1980's. Before you critique. Beautiful angelic voice. You cant compare to anything else at that time, unless you lived through it. The youth needed a siren and Elizabeth delivered. Just sayin. Its like Elvis comparing 99 problems Jay Z. Pointless !!!
There are so many great bands like Cocteau Twins on the 4AD label.
Elizabeth Frazier's voice has been used on many albums during that era. Many considered her angelic.
I'm looking to see if you've reacted Sigur Ros. An Icelandic band that creates language and has another worldly sound.
Hot take: Iceblink Luck is a better song.
Robin Guthrie said that "It's just guitars and the rest is smoke and mirrors"
YOU SHOULD REACT TO GARLANDS OR THE HOLLOW MAN by The Cocteau Twins!! They’re quite etherial and have a cool gothic early 80s vibe to them.
You want atmosphere? Try “Svefn-g-englar” by Sigur Ros.
actually just want a great song.
I have Simon Raymonde of Cocteau twins autograph!
Nice!
@@JustJP hi dude hope you are well, please react to Archives of pain by manic street preachers, Also check out their album The Holy Bible from 1994, incredible work of art.
Thank you PMM, appreciate the rec as well.
@@JustJP rec?
@@thesound-chameleonman3580 Recommendation. It saves me time from typing out the whole word over and over lol ;)
Love this song. Glad you picked it (though they are one of those bands whose music I only enjoy in small doses.) The music is just there to support the singer's (Elizabeth Fraser) voice which is the lead instrument. Read up on her approach to writing songs. She uses a lot of nonsense and non-words simply because they fit the song/melody. And she intentionally sings it in such a way that you really can't understand what she's singing. :-)
Big props for mentioning Blue Nile - I've got their Walk Across the Rooftops album in my permanent collection.
Here's a suggestion - Thomas Dolby - The Flat Earth. I'm sure you've heard of him and his commercial hits, but his deeper cuts are much better than any of those IMHO.
Lastly, there is/was a record label named 4AD - check out their earlier catalog. I believe they produced this group as well, or had some overlap with the artists but they've got some really interesting obscure/experimental bands. This Mortal Coil and Wolfgang Press being my favorites among them.
Thanks, JP!
Yes I love her voice, and its absolutely the lead instrument. I really really like Hats, but never tried any of their other albums.
I believe the lyrics are a reference to the struggle with addiction.
Lighting looks great. Audio is good. Work on that framing ✌🏻
OH, like, you have a channel or something. LOL (( assuming your infamous MP ))
Yessir!
I mean, you could def play around with framing, but it is a talking head show so it doesn’t really make too much of a difference. I will say, moving a little more toward the light in the back and opening up the space above the laptop would give you that space to put album art, à la a news anchor 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah I hear ya. It'll definitely start to slowly improve as I adjust things here and there.
Check out this recording, I absolutely love hearing her unpolished voice. Also heaven or Las Vegas is about as commercial as they got, check out all of their previous albums, they started out way more punk in 82 with Garlands, and progressed to make masterpieces like Blue Bell Knoll and Treasure or EPs like Aikea Guinea. They're my favorite band ever. czcams.com/video/EOVNBzJxtPg/video.html
best song ever.
Stunning album.
Simply, Elisabeth is Scottish fairy
This album was very "pared down", basic in the timbres and the amount of overdubs, electronic sounds employed, etc., in comparison to much of their other work. Complex harmony, ornate, developed melody and originality is evident far more in other albums and 12inch EP's.
"Iceblink Luck" and "Tishbite" are great Cocteau Twins songs too
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@@JustJP you consistently have great T-Shirts. Would love to see the whole collection online. (Keep reacting to Kate Bush!!)
I like athol brose too. Idk I feel like all of their songs contain a little bit of magic. Its addicting to listen to. Musette and drums is still amazing. Ivo, alice. Summerhead? Five ten fifty fold. Some off the top of my head. Their lyrics are basically nonsensical as far as I understand.
Try the song Lorelei. Liz Fraser is amazing.
When I bought this tape back in 1990 (instead of Led Zep II, Nebraska or even The Queen is Dead), I immediately knew I'd made both the best pick and a terrible mistake.
Those are not the lyrics. Only a few words in English - long story
Because of my age everything you listen to brings back memories. I have lots of Cocteau Twins albums (pronounced cock toe). you have to listen to an album to get the best out of them. Maybe you should listen to Dead Can Dance. This era was an age of alternatives to the material world it is hard to just listen to now without context. Love the videos.
Dude I love DCD. Dying Sun is a perfect album.