Classical Composer Reacts to Lateralus (Tool) - The Daily Doug (Episode 48)

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  • #Reaction #Lateralus #Tool #ToolReaction
    In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm reacting to Tool's Lateralus. I'm using the studio version on the Tool CZcams Channel as my source recording (link to this vid below). I had a blast trying to figure out their complex rhythmic groupings. Great band!
    • TOOL - Lateralus (Audio)

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  • @wilcol8087
    @wilcol8087 Před 2 lety +267

    The fact that Doug picked up that it was the Fibonacci sequence is incredible

    • @benwallet7818
      @benwallet7818 Před 9 měsíci +19

      Because it's not credible.

    • @DrMcKay66
      @DrMcKay66 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Knox Hill the rapper got it aswell. He got mindblown 😂

    • @Fmb-sp4fb
      @Fmb-sp4fb Před 6 měsíci +13

      @@DrMcKay66hell nah i've watched many of The Knox's reactions and they're just fake imo, he just googled it before

    • @DrMcKay66
      @DrMcKay66 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Fmb-sp4fb Im guessing that no one cares anyway though.

    • @bourbonzcaches8493
      @bourbonzcaches8493 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Not really, easily googled.

  • @mattweiss4843
    @mattweiss4843 Před 3 lety +1525

    "There is a reason no one sounds like Tool...because no one can." Exactly.

    • @ronniecorbett6306
      @ronniecorbett6306 Před 3 lety +6

      Truth

    • @DusteyeMC
      @DusteyeMC Před 3 lety +6

      yeah, he nailed that one too.

    • @zukacs
      @zukacs Před 3 lety +10

      @@DusteyeMC dude the exact moment i read this comment he said this in video. mind blown

    • @nigeobm4595
      @nigeobm4595 Před 3 lety +8

      Listen Soen's Cognitive

    • @rainbowroom2010
      @rainbowroom2010 Před 3 lety +10

      Come on guys...everyone knows Tool were influenced by Pink Floyd...

  • @Wungolioth
    @Wungolioth Před 3 lety +796

    Only Tool would create such an intricate song mathematically, and philosophically, and then tease their fans for overanalyzing, right in the lyrics.

    • @CarlosLiberated
      @CarlosLiberated Před 3 lety +28

      Funny stuff. Given Maynard’s history, it probably is a slight tease, but he also infuses many meanings into his lyrics. Overthinking, over analyzing, separates the body from the mind. He’s talking about intuition and the importance of trusting your gut so that you can feel the universe and seize the opportunities that open up to people who can intuitively sense them.

    • @edostork8121
      @edostork8121 Před 3 lety +14

      I read somewhere in an earlier comment elsewhere that you can also interpret this overthinking-overanalyzing too literally or too negatively. The comment said that the other part of the text that mentions separating body from the soul is taken together with that overthinking-overanalyzing part. So with that, I understand that the lyrics would be about being holistic and try to find all the angles without simplifying. Basically, to embrace complexity and push yourself to grow as a human being which, for me, is part of the main message of the song.

    • @t.rexsymonds7969
      @t.rexsymonds7969 Před 3 lety +2

      Beautifully put

    • @EvilSean62
      @EvilSean62 Před 3 lety +3

      i love that this is a thing ... can you picture snoop doggs fans having this discussion ... or even a vacuous teen salivatory trender stampede pausing mid shopping frenzy to analyse the time sig and instagramming the O...MG ( because just OMG is so last week ) ... endless conveyor belts of pretty but empty young things toppling into the maw of consumer death when they have spent their money and eaten their inheritance only to be told that plastic isnt cool now and theirs will be the final generation to have a lasting effect as the new kids on the block are all 'leave no tracer's
      and one kid at the back ... with the plastic lunch box with spam on white is quietly tapping his feet to the walkman rendition of classical music from the olden days of 2002 before we had children and sprots personalities running the country

    • @hoist8111
      @hoist8111 Před 2 lety +29

      @@EvilSean62 that's the most pretentious way I've ever seen someone else try to call other people pretentious.

  • @darinfields4238
    @darinfields4238 Před 3 lety +427

    Okay, that you immediately recognized the Fibonacci sequence in the meter of the lyrics on your first reaction is spectacular. That little gem is heralded by Tool geeks as part of the mystery of the universe. Kudos to your spectacular ear.

    • @evrE1aftermestolemyname
      @evrE1aftermestolemyname Před 2 lety +82

      he obviously researched it before. wish he didnt pretend like he didnt

    • @ViolentGenius
      @ViolentGenius Před 2 lety +22

      @@evrE1aftermestolemyname if he’s a composer he would know the sequences and patterns which are taking place within the tempo. Combined that with basic knowledge of the Fibonacci code and it wouldn’t be hard for him to notice. Most composers can hear things within songs that we can’t.

    • @TheBeanis8
      @TheBeanis8 Před 2 lety +34

      @@ViolentGenius LOL. Nobody would make that connection just because they know the Fibonacci sequence. Not on the first listen just like that especially. I'm sure this guy is a great composer and all that but if anyone actually believes he didn't look into beforehand, they're just fooling themselves. It's not a big deal either so no reason to defend the guy, but like someone else said it would be cooler if he'd admit it rather than pretend he just happened to make that connection the first time ever hearing the song, lol. I like your username though.

    • @ViolentGenius
      @ViolentGenius Před 2 lety +2

      @@TheBeanis8 I'm not defending him. I'm just not assuming I know what he did beforehand..

    • @TheBeanis8
      @TheBeanis8 Před 2 lety

      @@ViolentGenius this isn't a direct comparison but it's sort of like the videos made today that are blatantly obviously staged even though they try to pretend that they aren't. With those, you don't know the 'beforehand' either and are still technically making an assumption, as obvious as it is. This is similar.. I wouldn't call these reaction videos "staged" but I would say that there are lots and lots of them that the listener has in fact listened to the song beforehand and yet presents the video as though they hadn't. Ultimately it's not that big of a deal but it is a little deceptive. If I'm wrong about this guy I would gladly eat my crow but I would say with 99% confidence that he didn't just make the Fibonacci connection from his first listen ever, regardless of him being a composer. Am I saying it's IMPOSSIBLE? No. But it's pretty damn unlikely. Especially for a person who just also so happens to be doing a reaction video on CZcams. Maybe there's a few people in the world who could hear the song one time and make that connection but to also have it coincidentally be a person doing a reaction video on CZcams, well to me that's just more than obvious that he did a little research beforehand. Anyway, have a good day.

  • @charleysage5827
    @charleysage5827 Před 3 lety +870

    My wife is a professional pianist. I had never heard of Fibonacci until I had this playing in my truck. She just casually said, that's cool. Me, what's cool. She says that's Fibonacci. Then I had to have her explain it to me.

    • @nathanmckay2998
      @nathanmckay2998 Před 3 lety +38

      Yeah, the lyrics are wrote in that Fibonacci sequence. I had to look it up because I was never a good math student in school... I was a stoner that rocked out to Tool!

    • @seaofsorrow71
      @seaofsorrow71 Před 3 lety +41

      @@nathanmckay2998 you are good at math if you rocked to Tool.

    • @flyingardilla143
      @flyingardilla143 Před 3 lety +97

      Your wife is a keeper.

    • @rexahdar4199
      @rexahdar4199 Před 3 lety +5

      @@flyingardilla143 Exactly

    • @baukanakuab
      @baukanakuab Před 3 lety +1

      @@nathanmckay2998 Is English your first language? "written" "have never been" "maths"

  • @KoDaMoJo
    @KoDaMoJo Před 3 lety +922

    If you're this impressed by Danny Carey's studio tracks, you need to catch Pneuma live from his kit.

    • @thewildhealer541
      @thewildhealer541 Před 3 lety +8

      Hope we get to see more live videos from Tool in the future. Maybe we would if it weren't for covid. Maybe we would have a world tour too for Fear Inoculum.

    • @viking_nor
      @viking_nor Před 3 lety +4

      @@thewildhealer541 after catching covid twice on tour i think maynard is staying home for a while

    • @kevinwassledah1153
      @kevinwassledah1153 Před 3 lety +13

      I'll agree with the Pneuma suggestion. May I add "Invincible" as well? Both epic in their own ways.

    • @spongylord7131
      @spongylord7131 Před 3 lety +3

      @@viking_nor twice? Yikes! Covid getting to Maynard made this pandemic shit personal. How silly is that... but Maynards voice is a national treasure.

    • @serclintalot4497
      @serclintalot4497 Před 3 lety +4

      If I see one more Vic Firth Pneuma Live reaction...

  • @pvrhye
    @pvrhye Před 3 lety +383

    Lateralus came out when I was in College. At the same time my psych course was teaching about cerebral lateralization. That first line talks about early brain development. Babies see in black and white, then red and yellow. The sequence starts at one, goes up to something much longer and ends at 1. I think the song is about getting back in touch with your intuitive child-like self and returning to that receptive state.

    • @carborundorum
      @carborundorum Před 3 lety +14

      Sounds like we're about the same age. I had this CD in my car for a year straight. It changed my life.

    • @XYourexMyxSaviorX
      @XYourexMyxSaviorX Před 3 lety +13

      there is also a hint of evolution beyond the mere physical presence of oneself reach up and out go beyond one's own boundaries

    • @ayrsine
      @ayrsine Před 3 lety +2

      WOW!

    • @andrewhandelsman834
      @andrewhandelsman834 Před 2 lety

      Maybe...

    • @ekopradja5974
      @ekopradja5974 Před 2 lety

      Geez

  • @alexgram1276
    @alexgram1276 Před 3 lety +167

    I ve never seen a man getting the whole meaning of this song in just one listen, you are great

    • @freakbythecat
      @freakbythecat Před 2 lety +8

      It's called google....he be reading a crib sheet

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto Před 2 lety +16

      @@freakbythecat no, I think it is music classical education. A trained classical musician understands and counts the numbers of rhythms, and of notes, very easily, it is done even since the first month's of education.
      This stuff, is not new, even ancients used number patterns and ratios in music, paintings and architecture. It is just rebrought in modern pop culture.

    • @freakbythecat
      @freakbythecat Před 2 lety +1

      @@innosanto never said he didn't know musical theory did I. So how you getting some one cheating to some one not knowing anything. You know to get the music theory you practice and learn, just like research on songs so you understand. That's how smart people do things, learn. So to sum it up. I'm saying the dude has listened to the song and it's not his first listen

    • @tbeng12
      @tbeng12 Před 2 lety +2

      @@freakbythecat Plus he's got a Phd in this field you know.

    • @freakbythecat
      @freakbythecat Před 2 lety +5

      @@tbeng12 PhD don't mean you don't write shit down and practice something before you go to the public with it. PhD probably means your smart enough to do that since you have a PhD and don't do shit all willy nilly

  • @chriscary9269
    @chriscary9269 Před 3 lety +663

    Tool is my generation’s Pink Floyd, Rush, Led Zeppelin all in one

    • @edmundkempersdartboard173
      @edmundkempersdartboard173 Před 3 lety +67

      Always thought of them as a metal Floyd.

    • @Andrew46_2
      @Andrew46_2 Před 3 lety +5

      I 100% agree.

    • @chazstone6744
      @chazstone6744 Před 3 lety +21

      Tool is what happens when you compress those 3 into one infinitely dense point.

    • @DusteyeMC
      @DusteyeMC Před 3 lety +2

      true

    • @TheRedverb
      @TheRedverb Před 3 lety +27

      I, for one, dislike Tool being compared to any of those bands. To me those bands have never sounded like Tool and vis versa.
      Tool are their own thing and they've earned that title.

  • @MainelyW212
    @MainelyW212 Před 3 lety +489

    Ever watch Tool become someone’s new favorite band? Watch a composer figure out this song in the first listen. He’s initiated now.

    • @ericwalters9878
      @ericwalters9878 Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah. I like to try to find someone who’s NEVER heard of Tool. Most have heard them so they aren’t actually virgins. Most have heard a song or two before.

    • @undertow3461
      @undertow3461 Před 3 lety +8

      I do like to watch these. They bring a whole new experience to this experienced TooL listener.

    • @chadhaas6183
      @chadhaas6183 Před 3 lety

      I like the name bro. Yours and Tool of course

    • @chadhaas6183
      @chadhaas6183 Před 3 lety

      @@ericwalters9878 I'm always amazed how that is still a reality

    • @Davide77770
      @Davide77770 Před 3 lety +3

      When talking about Tool the word "initiation" is the right one. They're not a band, they're religion.

  • @Steelwhip2001
    @Steelwhip2001 Před 3 lety +89

    Tool is the only band that makes me feel as if I have touched the Divine when listening to them.

  • @TheLarknessMonster
    @TheLarknessMonster Před 3 lety +171

    So I know I'm late to the party here but this song goes so far in depth with the Fibonacci that it goes beyond just the syllables in the verses. Song actually starts at 1 second rather than 0 on Tools posted YT lateralus, so things may seem 1 sec off, but going off my song library song starts at 0 sec.
    - Syllables in each verse go (1) black, (1) then, (2) white are, (3) all I see, (5) In my infancy, (8) red and yellow then came to be, (5) reaching out to me, (3) lets me see
    - The introduction part of the song in 4/4 time is 01:12 long. 0,1,1,2 are the first four numbers in the sequence.
    - The first verse starts at 97 seconds. 97 seconds is 1.617 of a minute. Which is approx the golden ratio found in the Fibonacci (1.618)
    - Each verse is 55 seconds long. 55 is the 11th # in the sequence.
    - Time signatures within the main or chorus riff is 9/8, 8/8, 7/8. 987 is a number in the sequence.

    • @dreddnawtmettlehead2913
      @dreddnawtmettlehead2913 Před 2 lety +12

      Was going to point out this exact thing. Throughout the song most every major change happens around golden ratio, fibonochi, and primes. Not just the lyrics but also beats measures meters are mathematically immaculate. The white black red yellow also refers to the philosophers stone.... this song should be taught in schools.

    • @c_gull9995
      @c_gull9995 Před 2 lety +31

      My dude you are over thinking and over analyzing. Watch our or your body will separate from your mind!

    • @timl8302
      @timl8302 Před rokem +1

      Yep! Syllables go-13. The pre- Chorus is 13. "As below So above and beyond I imagine" Lateralus is 'Lateral Thinking." The time signatures he mentioned 987, is a number in the sequence. His vocals starts at 1minute &.37 seconds = 1.618 minutes (Golden Ratio.) .

    • @Jguthro
      @Jguthro Před 6 dny

      But the sequence starts at zero...

    • @TheLarknessMonster
      @TheLarknessMonster Před 6 dny

      @@Jguthro Explain to me how you are going to have a word with 0 syllables?

  • @Thinchap
    @Thinchap Před 3 lety +169

    "What is that?". It's the sound of you being born.

  • @thevoidaintdeep6475
    @thevoidaintdeep6475 Před 3 lety +146

    "You Tool fans probably know about this". Yeah dude, there's like an ongoing in-joke that we never shut up about it :)) Welcome to the club

    • @stagger9660
      @stagger9660 Před 3 lety +7

      Yeah man the fettuccine sequence is what really sells this song

    • @faamecanic1970
      @faamecanic1970 Před 2 lety

      More like “Join us as we go down the rabbit hole” :)

  • @ryepie75
    @ryepie75 Před 2 lety +44

    I worked at Cello Studios when Tool was recording this album. I can remember the sheer power coming out of that studio just hearing it come through the walls while walking down the hallway-and also standing outside the door of the control room. They tracked the drums in the biggest studio with the drum kit near the back of the studio facing the control room. The room sound on the drums is amazing. This is where they also recorded Aenima, although it was Ocean Way Back then.

  • @raymondharnack4160
    @raymondharnack4160 Před 3 lety +47

    The intro is the sound of the inside of a mother’s womb. The harsh intro is that infant being thrust suddenly into the world.

  • @edmundkempersdartboard173
    @edmundkempersdartboard173 Před 3 lety +175

    A lot of Maynard's lyrics are about self-acceptance, reflection and spiritual growth. Pretty much nailed it.

    • @myNamesTakin
      @myNamesTakin Před 3 lety +4

      Don't forget drugs and sexual abuse

    • @richard_from_england333
      @richard_from_england333 Před 3 lety +4

      @@myNamesTakin He's making fun of drugs

    • @Speakofawe
      @Speakofawe Před 3 lety

      This song is definitely an example of that for sure! I always come back to this song if I feel like shit. That album is aligned with my soul... or my soul immediately aligned with it - so. Damn. Good.

  • @brandonhinrichs387
    @brandonhinrichs387 Před 3 lety +128

    Danny Carey is also a professionally trained Jazz percussionist. His college degree is a music degree

    • @Verifraudreports
      @Verifraudreports Před 3 lety +28

      you forgot Wizard Octopus

    • @Squirrelconga
      @Squirrelconga Před 3 lety

      @@Verifraudreports 👾

    • @janelson41
      @janelson41 Před 3 lety +8

      He has a doctorate in percussion and a masters in ancient mathematics, if I'm not mistaken...

    • @googelle7555
      @googelle7555 Před 3 lety +1

      Prog musicians ... gotta LOVE 'em ...

    • @nyobunknown6983
      @nyobunknown6983 Před 2 dny

      And he spent time as a session musician.

  • @TheAsphyx666
    @TheAsphyx666 Před 3 lety +75

    "The basic beat doesn't change throughout, it's how they're organizing the larger beats..." Nailed it, dude. This is how they manage to sound so rhythmically intricate and still lay down an amazing groove.

    • @coryjohnson2486
      @coryjohnson2486 Před rokem +1

      Wow…. I’ve never heard someone explain it like that 🤯. I learn new stuff about this band every day…

  • @danielmrtns
    @danielmrtns Před 3 lety +28

    4:41 “I think I got the rhythm pegged...”
    Tool: “challenge accepted!”

  • @dansnow7374
    @dansnow7374 Před 3 lety +267

    This is completely engrossing. As a basement “ musician” to listen to someone who knows music theory and can pick out chords and key by listening is amazing black magic to me. This is very cool stuff. I really enjoyed your Iron Maiden reactions/ breakdown as well.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  Před 3 lety +55

      Thanks. I ‘tune up’ before listening...so that I have a foundation to start verbally recognizing the chords and notes. I don’t have perfect pitch. We practice doing listening like this often in music school.

    • @JanneTarhanen
      @JanneTarhanen Před 3 lety +18

      My words exactly! And this analysis of the song, got me subbed to this channel. This very different approach to these reaction videos and this also re-freshes this "reaction genre".
      I just hope that when @Doug Helvering stomples upon Nightiwish, I wish that he would tackle "The Greatest Show on Earth" -studio version. TGSoE deserves Dougs input.

    • @serclintalot4497
      @serclintalot4497 Před 3 lety +15

      To be fair. If it's Tool, D minor is a pretty safe assumption.

    • @undertow3461
      @undertow3461 Před 3 lety +3

      Exactly how I feel. When I first heard TooL back in *coughs* it was beautiful, chaotic noise that I was looking forward to dissecting. Haven't stopped since.
      💕 Love you all.💕

    • @horseshoe_nc
      @horseshoe_nc Před 3 lety +1

      @@JanneTarhanen Doug is now in the Nightwish rabbit hole. He has done Ghost Love Score and The Greatest Show On Earth. He went with the official live of both.

  • @Marcocarronda
    @Marcocarronda Před 3 lety +158

    I'm a fan of everyone who found the Fibonacci sequence in Lateralus.
    Sir, you got a lot of fans, the TOOL Army. It"s very cool to look at TOOL by your classical eye . We salute you

  • @peterprovost727
    @peterprovost727 Před 2 lety +84

    Never heard this song before.
    It is absolutely unbelievable!
    I'm still trying to piece myself together in the right functioning order....

    • @the_____project4582
      @the_____project4582 Před 2 lety +6

      You should hear the rest of their catalogue

    • @Caydecate
      @Caydecate Před 2 lety +9

      Welcome to TOOL

    • @JorgeRamirez-ij6fo
      @JorgeRamirez-ij6fo Před rokem

      When you're tired from a long day or down for whatever reason, listen to this band.

    • @jimlthor
      @jimlthor Před rokem

      The whole album is put together in Fibonnacci order as well. So listen to it in that order and it all blends together

  • @bradleyd6000
    @bradleyd6000 Před 3 lety +58

    How this band has only won 3 Grammys is beyond me and an indictment on the Grammys IMO.

    • @furthurondown
      @furthurondown Před 3 lety +13

      nobody in the band cares about grammys. you shouldn't either.

    • @bradleyd6000
      @bradleyd6000 Před 3 lety +7

      @@furthurondown I don't. It's a statement on how much of a joke the grammys are.

    • @tonylane8873
      @tonylane8873 Před rokem +3

      Milli Vanilli won a Grammy. Jimi Hendryx never did.

    • @JustinMcVicar
      @JustinMcVicar Před rokem +1

      Grammy's and other awards are complete bullshit and only ever account for how many units they've sold.

    • @vincegedeon6583
      @vincegedeon6583 Před rokem

      ​@@tonylane8873 they didn't have the Grammys in the 60s😂

  • @MorningKillsDawn
    @MorningKillsDawn Před 3 lety +222

    I'm calling it right now: Tool Army assemble!

  • @mushroomblue5504
    @mushroomblue5504 Před 3 lety +95

    Maynard writes the lyrics after hearing the piece of music. The vocals are also viewed and treated as an instrument, rather than just leading the song. Fantastic reaction; well done.

    • @brandonhinrichs387
      @brandonhinrichs387 Před 3 lety +3

      It always cracks me up when people say oh it fits so perfectly and you're like yeah no shit because the music was already finished so naturally he's going to be singing in the gaps 😂

    • @mahogany174
      @mahogany174 Před 3 lety +1

      Maynard takes the music and tries not to ruin the masterpiece as created and in the process elevates it to perfection. No other band sound like this. Absolutely mesmerising.

  • @cndluluv
    @cndluluv Před 3 lety +38

    “no one sounds like Tool... because no one can” GD right.

  • @5eba
    @5eba Před 2 lety +31

    I'm weeping to the outro out of overflowing emotion. I'm so thankful this music exists.

  • @MainelyW212
    @MainelyW212 Před 3 lety +56

    Only Adam Jones can pull of 64 bars of solo and only use 2 notes like that....

  • @brianc5410
    @brianc5410 Před 3 lety +224

    Key Of Geebs is amazing y’all need to go look at his reactions

    • @ilovetacos6092
      @ilovetacos6092 Před 3 lety +31

      Love his reactions. Watching composers try to dissect Tool is so satisfying for me. It’s like a drug for me.

    • @kepp81
      @kepp81 Před 3 lety +23

      Watching his reactions for the last couple hours led me here lol

    • @zukacs
      @zukacs Před 3 lety +19

      is this why i got recommend this channel?

    • @paul.i3606
      @paul.i3606 Před 3 lety +5

      Definitely

    • @robinclaidlaw
      @robinclaidlaw Před 3 lety +8

      The only other reactor I’ve seen hear and spot the Fibonacci sequence first go.

  • @tomgrant29
    @tomgrant29 Před 3 lety +20

    "Where are they gonna go now?"
    To the end of time and space my friend :)

    • @lejlateletovic5225
      @lejlateletovic5225 Před 3 lety +2

      ...after "Reaching out to embrace the random
      , reaching out to embrace whatever may come"

  • @vladtheinhaler93
    @vladtheinhaler93 Před 3 lety +94

    Just one thing; "overthinking-overanalysing separates the body from the mind" is a message of hope for those who choose to hear it, and a warning to those who do not...

    • @dragonthesharkyt
      @dragonthesharkyt Před 2 lety +5

      Me? The Chosen One? They chose me?

    • @riskrask3310
      @riskrask3310 Před 2 lety +2

      @@dragonthesharkyt and I didn’t even graduate from fuckin high school

    • @machinist1337
      @machinist1337 Před rokem +2

      Did aliens lure you with orange slices too?

    • @vladtheinhaler93
      @vladtheinhaler93 Před rokem +1

      @@machinist1337 Yeah, but I'm still waiting for the buffet to be served, dont know what else might me on the menu

  • @farn451
    @farn451 Před 3 lety +12

    you're the first reactori've ever seen who's clocked the fibonacci sequence without a tool army member laying it out. i could see you thinking it! Masters of minimalism and taking an idea and extending it in ways that are both simple and complex. when i tabbed out the bass line that section was as you guessed, 9/8, 4/4 and 7/8 with 5/8 for the verses.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  Před 3 lety +6

      Thanks. Folks like me train to listen to music like this...takes years of practice. The 9/8, 8/8, 7/8 thing was a lucky guess. The macro phrase has 24 beats. 9+8+7 is a neat way to have three large measures. I’ve thought about that before in my own music and happened to recognize the pattern.

  • @robertjones4361
    @robertjones4361 Před 3 lety +54

    "It lifts you up"........Yes it does.......Take the TooL Journey my friend, it's the most cerebral and intelligent and progressive music available.......they are truly organic and have grown together as men over 30 years.....I am 54 years old, no kid........they have guided me during many dark times, this particular album came out in 2001 and the tour was interrupted by the tragedy of 9/11, the lyrics throughout this album and catalog.......will spark thought......you're not reading too much into it......they are talking about becoming the best "human" you can be and to push the envelope of accepted to be possibly better

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  Před 3 lety +31

      Thanks very much. My brother has been on me for years to dive into Tool. No stopping now!

    • @rasol136
      @rasol136 Před 3 lety +1

      Then Fear Inoculum came out and their tour was interrupted by the Pandemic. Quite a coincidence or they release their music right when the world would need it most.

    • @jen0000
      @jen0000 Před 2 lety +1

      All of their shows are amazing but IMO the Lateralus tour was the most memorable. I was so thankful they came to Philly that year.

  • @Maverick0420
    @Maverick0420 Před 2 lety +15

    The time signatures of the chorus of the song change from 9/8 to 8/8 to 7/8; as drummer Danny Carey says, "It was originally titled 9-8-7. For the time signatures. Then it turned out that 987 was the 16th number of the Fibonacci sequence. So that was cool."

  • @wolfsonggames4988
    @wolfsonggames4988 Před 3 lety +34

    What's Tool's favorite time signature?
    Tool Time!!
    I made a funny!

  • @ted1976hailspiralout
    @ted1976hailspiralout Před 3 lety +40

    The Tool Army needs more of your Tool reactions!!!

  • @elskeletor3566
    @elskeletor3566 Před 3 lety +83

    The whole album is the Fibonacci sequence. You should watch the interview with Maynard on Joe Rogan show where he explains this.

    • @danielkeene3852
      @danielkeene3852 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Then Maynard tells Joe that it wasn't intentional. Maynard trolling Joe with a little smirk.

  • @rickp5205
    @rickp5205 Před 2 lety +2

    For years I was a TOOL fan, I practiced Aikido and studied Nietzsche - in the song Lateralus, I realized they all came together. The spirals in Aikido's philosophy of movement and Nietzsche's philosophy of "embrac[ing] whatever may come." And, no doubt, there's probably at least dozens of other references/influences that could be legitimately inferred and or mined from just that single song. Nietzsche once wrote that he was writing for an audience probably not yet born. I believe TOOL is writing for future generations that will still marvel at their art. TOOL. RULES.

  • @ricks.3883
    @ricks.3883 Před 2 lety +6

    "Really"? yea🤣 I loved your reaction when you figured out the Fibonacci stuff. Great review of this song 👍🏻

  • @Explosion-of-consciousness
    @Explosion-of-consciousness Před 3 lety +74

    “Are they doing Fibonacci stuff?”
    Welcome to Tool. Have fun going down this rabbit hole. You’ve only just begun. :)

  • @arthurprzebinda9057
    @arthurprzebinda9057 Před 3 lety +28

    "lyric -driven" is ironic since the way Tool writes their songs is the instrumental arrangement is done first and the vocals are done at the end. I suspect that a song that plays on the Fibonacci sequence in lyrics and music would require a more coordinated effort.

  • @tubedazze
    @tubedazze Před 3 lety

    Thank you so very very much for doing what you to Doug!!
    I love your reaction videos. It has opened my eyes even more to all kind of composing styles and lyric writing etc.
    Great stuff !! You are amazing !

  • @arnedumandan1654
    @arnedumandan1654 Před 3 lety

    I appreciate your reaction, please keep it going. You gave more insights to a specific song and it makes more involved to the music.

  • @myriadpath
    @myriadpath Před 3 lety +2

    i am immensely happy for anyone who can listen to this for the first time and come away with that much understanding. good on you, and you just gained another sub

  • @darealboot1
    @darealboot1 Před 3 lety +7

    HAHAHAHA! HE FIGURED IT OUT SO FAST! yes.... fibonaci is all over this entire song

  • @wccook1
    @wccook1 Před 2 lety +2

    Doug, I absolutely love your Tool reactions. That’s how I found you and I have since loved all of your other vids. Thankyou sir 🙏🏻

  • @citylineman
    @citylineman Před 3 lety +1

    Love your honest reaction. The analytics you provide are amazing! I think you truly enjoyed this song. Thank you for sharing.

  • @wendeln92
    @wendeln92 Před 3 lety +8

    I love these analyses by professional musicians. It shows that many of these heavy "rock" bands are not just pulling uot their instruments and making a bunch of noise. There is structure and intelligence. They really are musicians and not just a group of guys guys getting stoned and playing slamming their instruments. Also love that there are other Tool fans out there that like similar bands as I do (Pink Floyd, Rush, King Crimson, etc.) which I believe led me to really liking and appreciating Tool.

  • @stremebeanzz9383
    @stremebeanzz9383 Před 2 lety +6

    Tool are a bunch of music geniuses that no one can even compare them to they are literally the best band change my mind

  • @the_____project4582
    @the_____project4582 Před 2 lety

    You managed to capture exactly why they are my favorite band in just one listen. Quite impressive. You’ve gained my respect and my subscription. Can’t wait to see more

  • @bearmouse1000
    @bearmouse1000 Před 3 lety

    Great video man! Thoroughly impressed with your ability to quickly pick up on so many of the musical and lyrical elements in conjunction on a first listen-through.

  • @sharilynbratton6476
    @sharilynbratton6476 Před 3 lety +3

    Fantastic explication, you hit on all the reasons, spiritual and lyrical and creative, why I love Tool AND this song, so much.

  • @MainelyW212
    @MainelyW212 Před 3 lety +41

    When you see Justin (bass player) perform live.... he’s in a 5th time signature when he moves around. It’s some elliptical rocking in no rhythm the band is playing, including himself....

    • @pro-v7500
      @pro-v7500 Před 3 lety

      Well considering his playing resolves into rhythm with the band more than once, he’s most definitely playing a rhythm.

    • @bradysimpson
      @bradysimpson Před 3 lety +5

      @@pro-v7500 I’m pretty sure he’s talking about the motion his body is making is what isn’t in time with anything

    • @pro-v7500
      @pro-v7500 Před 3 lety

      @@bradysimpson mind blown. Thanks for clarification.

    • @CarlosLiberated
      @CarlosLiberated Před 3 lety +3

      Justin, at least at the show I was at, was hilarious live. He looked like he was having the time of his life and seemed to be having an ongoing dialogue and running joke with the first three rows of the crowd in front of him throughout the show.

    • @markseay3736
      @markseay3736 Před 3 lety

      Thanks for reminding me about this. I've only seen Tool live once [2019], and noticed the same thing. As a drummer myself, I always try to focus on whatever polyrhythmic magic is happening, regardless of who I'm listening to. After hearing a song two or three times, I've usually got the pattern recognized, and move according to that groove. But watching Justin live really messed with my head. I spent an entire song just focusing on what he and Danny were playing and could NOT sync that to his body movements. It was frustratingly fascinating. I ultimately came to the same conclusion you mentioned, and just stopped TRYING to figure out what his body was moving to. My theory is, that's some deep "third eye" sh!T, manifesting physically, and unconsiously to Justin. But it's COOL to watch!!

  • @coachklub1556
    @coachklub1556 Před 3 lety +1

    Doug: Thank you for this. The joy you felt, I have felt every one of the 100+ times I have played this track. Wonderful having you explain some of the magic. Great stuff from you and of course from TOOL.

  • @Mboogie69
    @Mboogie69 Před 3 lety +1

    Best reaction I’ve seen! Well done 👍

  • @corditeshade
    @corditeshade Před 3 lety +4

    I saw them live in Madrid in 2019, 6 months before the pandemic started. The emotional response to even a video such as this can be overwhelming - especially with all what has been happening. Dissecting the psyche.

  • @Miksalot
    @Miksalot Před 3 lety +11

    I had to be told that they utilized the Fibonacci Sequence when making this song. You picked it up on the first listen. Kudos.
    Also, if you think you're reading too much into a Tool song, it's still most likely not enough.

  • @GizliBiraz
    @GizliBiraz Před 3 měsíci +1

    This song has it all... all the intricacies and layers of the music & musicality you noted, but also:
    • math (Fibonacci, spiral, Golden Ratio)
    • science (galaxies spiral, grow, ever expanding)
    • human development ("black and white are all I see, in my infancy, red and yellow then came to me..."-how human eyesight develops from infancy and beyond)
    • existentialism ("spiral out, keep going..." or "push the envelope, watch it bend")
    • spirituality (reaching, striving, wanting more, "There is so much more that beconks me to look through to these infinite possibilities")
    • mental health ("Overthinking, over analyzing... withering my intuition...")
    • hope for the future ("We may just go where no one's been... keep going")
    My favorite line has always been "I'm reaching up and reaching out, I"m reaching for the random or whatever will bewilder me"

  • @drivehard2395
    @drivehard2395 Před 3 lety +1

    You have no idea how cool it is to see someone like you express the exact reasons why I love these groups so much. To see you react to the very things that made me react when I first heard them is wonderful. It's like sitting in a room with friends back in Austin, Texas playing tracks for each other and getting turned on to new things. Love it.

  • @Paranoid44
    @Paranoid44 Před 3 lety +6

    Great reaction! 🙌 Really enjoyed your insight. Looking forward to you doing more Tool. Now I'm gonna go listen to some Stravinsky 😁

  • @larrycooper5328
    @larrycooper5328 Před 3 lety +37

    Buddy, if you just organically discovered the fibonacci sequence this is the most amazing reaction to this song I have ever heard. Kudos to you man. All Hail the Octopus!!!!! Danny Carey.

    • @Doug.Helvering
      @Doug.Helvering  Před 3 lety +29

      It’s a music school thing. My masters and doctorate are both in composition, and the academic side of that is in analysis and history of music theory. As a musicianship teacher, I’ve taught those rhythms, and it just popped out at me when I heard it in the rhythmic poetry. Plus, I’ve heard Pneuma many times and was anticipating rhythmic complexity in this track.

    • @edwardomunoz9299
      @edwardomunoz9299 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Doug.Helvering FYI these guys are in a league of their own 🤘 Spiral out keep it going 🔥

    • @socialxperiment3162
      @socialxperiment3162 Před rokem

      David Heretic figured it out too, and he’s obsessed with counting and time signatures

  • @slimjimmy127
    @slimjimmy127 Před 3 lety +1

    That's a crazy ear you have. Thanks for taking us on the journey with you🤘

  • @durtyd9625
    @durtyd9625 Před 3 lety +1

    Well played catching that fib sequence. Prolly the only person I've seen catch it on the first go. Cheers man! Too cool

  • @jenkinsisaac91
    @jenkinsisaac91 Před 3 lety +4

    This is by far one of the absolute best reactions to a tool song I’ve ever seen. The amount of things you noticed and understood from the meanings of this song is incredible, I can’t wait to see more of your stuff

  • @anthonypallen7919
    @anthonypallen7919 Před 3 lety +12

    Fun to see someone who gets it. Tool is always a surprise to à listener.

  • @coryjohnson2486
    @coryjohnson2486 Před rokem

    The absolute BEST reaction to this song, and I’ve watched at least a dozen (probably more). A PERFECT mix of reacting to song structure, the sound, the lyrics, and everything else. He only stopped the song a couple times (rather than every 30 seconds), and also picked up on things pretty quickly and was able to illustrate it very well. Bravo man…. Bravo!! 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

  • @sandrodasilva8044
    @sandrodasilva8044 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for your specialized mind to think and analyze about all the stuff, from the past and present music recordings. You're a nice person to have friendship.

  • @coasteraddict10
    @coasteraddict10 Před 3 lety +3

    God damn that was great you recognising the fib sequence almost straight away.

  • @chrisjohnzo5235
    @chrisjohnzo5235 Před 3 lety +10

    you figured it out , i trust you now , i am following

  • @ADbizzy2
    @ADbizzy2 Před 2 lety

    I'm so glad your channel fell into my youtube home page! As a classically trained guitar player and huge fan of Frank Zappa, Tool and many other bands you've covered, I love seeing how a first time listener with your musical knowledge reacts and analyzes these songs. Keep 'em coming! :)

  • @jamief7079
    @jamief7079 Před 3 lety

    Great video! As a Tool fan, we love it when new fans appreciate what we have been listening to all these years! Welcome to the club!

  • @l.a.native6921
    @l.a.native6921 Před 3 lety +179

    This guys an undercover die-hard Tool fan acting like he's never heard this before lol

    • @curtbritt1631
      @curtbritt1631 Před 3 lety +15

      Just a little playing pretend....

    • @Jivanmuktaintraining
      @Jivanmuktaintraining Před 3 lety +19

      Wait, is he doing Fibonacci stuff? Yeah, he just picked that up this moment. Still, good analysis.

    • @nooodles939
      @nooodles939 Před 3 lety +20

      Exactly what I was thinking.

    • @tappytibbons735
      @tappytibbons735 Před 3 lety +9

      yup, OH MY GOSH THE LYRICS IS FLIBBINANTCHI, 9,8,7 over 12 rhythm comes in... no comment. Yeah normie youtuber watched other vids on the song from other derpies before his "reaction" then totally missed the actual sequence in the song.

    • @nickwilliams3174
      @nickwilliams3174 Před 3 lety +4

      100%

  • @jlog1c
    @jlog1c Před 3 lety +5

    Never seen a reactor that really understood this song so well on the first listen. The musical choices, the meaning of the song, you nailed it.

  • @kentonkirkpatrick5225
    @kentonkirkpatrick5225 Před 3 lety

    A pleasure to watch you work Maestro...

  • @IvanSKMK
    @IvanSKMK Před rokem

    Omg it IS a heartbeat in the womb at the beginning. I've been listening to Tool for more than 20 years and never caught on to that but it makes so much sense given how the lyrics start. Wow, and you got that on the first take. Kudos

  • @matthew6427
    @matthew6427 Před 3 lety +5

    It's amazing how people can "hear" this band and/or "be aware" of them but once you dig in, the intricacies and brilliance is witnessed. Great vid, I'm sure people will be calling for Wings and Judith, etc. I would be interested in seeing The Grudge. Most people who do these videos tend to overlook that one. Either way you go, I can't wait to see the journey. Tool is an animal all their own & the path you take will be interesting no matter the path.

  • @rlundquest
    @rlundquest Před 3 lety +3

    I thought your critique of Tool's music, from one listen, was the best I have heard so far. I am convinced that Tool is the greatest group of musicians, together and on their own. I don't think you can find any better. Their music is so complex and has incredible depth. I have been hooked ever since I first listened to them in 1997. Their music NEVER gets old! Thank you for your perspective, I appreciate your attention to the many details 🤘

  • @willreese420
    @willreese420 Před 3 lety

    Great reaction to one of Tool's (my favorite band of all time) best songs. Looking forward to the next reaction. The Rite of Spring is briliant, thank you.

  • @G_Man-sd1tw
    @G_Man-sd1tw Před 2 lety

    Absolutely phenomenal that you figured out the sequence along with how it ties to the meaning and spirituality of the song

  • @garrisonchabot22
    @garrisonchabot22 Před 3 lety +12

    "There's not a lot of expansiveness in terms of melody, it's just...power..."
    'Unlimited Power' - Chancellor Palpatine

    • @mikek9297
      @mikek9297 Před 2 lety +1

      UUUUNLIIIIMIIIITEEEEEED POOOOWAAAAAAAAAH !!!

    • @chadphelps5809
      @chadphelps5809 Před 2 lety +1

      Whenever I’m at Olive Garden I always say “ unlimited breadsticks” like Palpatine lol

  • @jessicamcbee8702
    @jessicamcbee8702 Před 3 lety +39

    Oh, I so love hearing a reaction that comes with musical knowledge. I love the insight! Welcome to the TOOL Army!!! I hope you do more TOOL reactions!! This is fabulous!

    • @Shake69ification
      @Shake69ification Před 3 lety +5

      It’s very satisfying to hear those who know something about music _really_ listen and understand what we all have known on a subconscious level.

  • @MrSharesky
    @MrSharesky Před 3 lety

    I love seeing people being introduced to this amazing band. Read into it some more, all the lyrics, every song. You're in for a treat :)

  • @inertial_salmon
    @inertial_salmon Před 3 lety +1

    Holy..... I absolutely love your analysis. You have my total respect. This video, while unable to rival the masterpiece that is Lateralus, certainly honors the song marvelously

  • @Spooky_Tooth1
    @Spooky_Tooth1 Před 3 lety +14

    This needs more thumbs up 👍

  • @douglasplinhares
    @douglasplinhares Před 3 lety +4

    This channel is so underrated. Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷!

  • @ozzy_osvi
    @ozzy_osvi Před 3 lety +1

    first time watchers! i love your comments and observations, i'll sub for some more tool first reactions!

  • @renatob9909
    @renatob9909 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for your reaction Doug and thank you to those who suggested this band, it did not know them; I will listen to more of their music, they make great sound!

  • @kdiamond
    @kdiamond Před 3 lety +32

    The fact that you picked up the Fibonacci thing on your first listen is super impressive. Keep doing these reactions, loving them so far.

    • @Jalynfein
      @Jalynfein Před 3 lety +15

      The fact that you think he picked up on that without any prior knowledge is super impressive.
      Especially considering you can witness evidence that he's already heard this song.
      Super naive.

    • @KORKEL-
      @KORKEL- Před 3 lety +4

      More like super unbelievable

    • @Bramble451
      @Bramble451 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Jalynfein You may be right or wrong. But another commenter said his pianist wife picked up on it on her first hearing. And he explains why he is familiar with it - it's used in classical music composition. So maybe he is fibbing about the Fibonacci, but it's worth remembering that just because someone can do something that you can't, doesn't mean it can't be done. Rick Beato can pick up on songs on first hearing, because his ear is trained and he is familiar with certain patterns that frequently show up in pop songs. Key of Geebs, also a composer, picks up on all sorts of different aspects of songs that many of us probably missed.

    • @Benni-rp9or
      @Benni-rp9or Před 3 lety

      @@Bramble451 Key of Geebs also admitted to looking ahead at songs, so it's possible he knew about the Fibonacci sequence ahead of time. I'm skeptical as well that someone, even a musician would just pick up on that so clearly and early in the song on the first play. I also don't believe that the Fibonacci sequence is super common in music, or at least not commonly discussed. My wife is a pianist and has studied music and theory, she has a degree and has been playing for over 20 years and teaches lessons. I'm curious if she's aware of it, I'll ask her tonight. I'm not saying someone would never pick up on this, but in the day of CZcams fame, some people will say or do almost anything to get recognition and subscribers.

  • @imposteryau
    @imposteryau Před 3 lety +8

    First time I've seen someone figure out the "Fibonacci stuff" on first listen, well done!

  • @breakdancinfool
    @breakdancinfool Před 2 lety

    Gotta say I LOVE nerding out with Doug on these freakishly amazing compositions! Had so much fun with this one!!!

  • @Flatstick
    @Flatstick Před 3 lety +1

    Dude! This is the first time (and I've watched a lot of these) that I've ever seen anyone listen to this and figure out, without any prior knowledge, that the Fibonacci sequence was used, particularly with the syllables. Great fun to watch! :D
    Looking forward to seeing you discover more of their work, almost all of their songs are this good; and none of the remainder are ever bad anyway. Cheers.

  • @artmathias9725
    @artmathias9725 Před 3 lety +3

    I do already know what you are talking about! I have to say that you are the first reaction channel that had figured it out on their own, well done! I have been a trader for several years and obviously work with FIb on a daily basis. Even if someone doesn't know or understand Fibonacci Sequence, they can still listen to this song and recognize that there is something different going on.
    Well done again!

  • @cerebralfailure8804
    @cerebralfailure8804 Před 3 lety +11

    the ratio you were referring to is called The Golden Ratio which ties into both nature and all forms of art

    • @Kronical69420
      @Kronical69420 Před 2 lety

      Just another name for the Fibonacci Sequence.

  • @waryou303
    @waryou303 Před 3 lety +1

    just watched a couple of videos, there is nothing to say Sir, you just GET IT, and there's not much to say. Kudos and wish you all the best.

  • @devinmarr9791
    @devinmarr9791 Před 2 lety

    Great video. It's a lot of fun listening to someone deconstruct and explain an intricate song like this. Very cool, thanks for doing this. Oh and Rite of Spring is one of the few classical songs I know by name. Possibly one of the darkest and most powerful pieces of music, it's fantastic.

  • @rayrayokmusic
    @rayrayokmusic Před 3 lety +6

    Great analysis. Crazy to think you got this the first time. Whoa.

    • @zachchristensen1104
      @zachchristensen1104 Před 3 lety +3

      A little too crazy Maybe what do you think? Not to be a skeptic it felt a little hokey, unnatural not trying to offend anybody but I'd rather be a dick than a dildo, then again I'm usually only right half the time. Although I am glad he enjoyed it, and will continue to check him out, but he is on probation

    • @DR.DisInfect
      @DR.DisInfect Před 3 lety +1

      Don't be a dick 😒

  • @szurpx
    @szurpx Před 3 lety +6

    987 is also a Fibonacci number, the 15th I believe. Great reaction, always very interesting hearing someone's opinion who's educated on music, can't wait to hear the future reactions.

  • @the_nutrition_lab
    @the_nutrition_lab Před 3 lety

    I love these videos sooo much Doug! You explain to be in a scientific way why I love the music I love.

  • @lollipopwaraxe6032
    @lollipopwaraxe6032 Před 3 lety

    love to see you do more tool this was a great video i can see your passion in it