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Insecure Season 4 Ep 7 | Was Molly Being "The Angry Black Woman" "Lowkey Trippin'"
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- čas přidán 24. 05. 2020
- Welcome to my #insecure Season 4 Ep. 7 Recap & Review. In this episode Molly and Andrew take off for their first couples' vacation with Andrew's brother Victor and his wife Lydia - and despite their packed schedule, the trip is smooth sailing until a hotel employee steps out of line. Meanwhile, Molly begins to reevaluate her inability to let things go.
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I know currently people don’t like Molly but can we just mention the woman is gorgeous
Orji, the actress is a very friendly beautiful woman. The character she plays is just so unpleasant. That's how you know she's so good at her craft.
The fashions! That Christian Dior book tote was everything. I got my entire life watching Molly slay outfit after outfit. Yvonne has an amazing figure. I wanted to be in the background on that resort sipping a fruity drink so bad! #imissoutside
Her body 🙌🏾🙌🏾the whole episode
You mean Yvonne Orji? A thousand times yes. My jaw stayed dropping for three seasons, and Molly's wardrobe just added to that.
Chris P boy stfu. Molly is beautiful FOH
Molly’s personality serves her well in all aspects of her life except relationships with people. I gotta say. Yvonne Orji is gorgeous and the fact the woman is a virgin by choice. The discipline
Damn they make her do all them sex scenes as a virgin?!
@@hatruong5219 I mean...nobody is making Yvonne do anything. Shes an actress doing a job🤷🏿♀️
Ha Truong Also, I’m sure she has sexual experiences just not penetrative sex.
Kim Julien No, as a Christian she doesn’t believe in any kind of sex before marriage.
As a 2nd-gen Asian American, I really loved that they touched on the complexity of how racism is experienced by diff POC. I think that both Molly and Victor have problematic and outdated views (and it's likely that Molly experienced a real microaggression there), but it felt like a gut-punch when she made a bunch of generalizations and then just snapped at Andrew with a "well, you're different!" I also knew that as soon as we met Victor, he'd be a match for Molly...Poor Andrew is surrounded by control-freaks! Maybe that's why he's so chill!
@@trish0817 I agree
This comment gets 5 stars and hearts!!!💫✨🌟💘💕💓💖 I’m a first generation black woman (Jamaican mom and Trinidadian dad) who grew up in an Asian suburb in Cali. I really appreciate this episode shining a light on micro aggressions, the range of thought and reactions around microagressions, how poc’s view the other’s discrimination. They covered so much in just a few minutes. And yes, Andrew is the balance between these type A’s lol
@@trish0817 I appreciate this comment because I feel like we can't always assume something is racist without really knowing. I actually had a fight with a black friend before because we had a waiter who gave us a little bit of an attitude and she automatically went with he's racist. I said maybe he is having a bad night, or we misread it, or maybe he is just as ass in general. She didn't like that and was super upset with me. It's not that I don't think people can be racist but poor customer service isn't the same thing.
Hola Kitty totally agree. Sis was upset over a towel? A towel? That is not at all worth all the energy she put in. And considering Molly is a professional black woman, I’m surprised at her inability to handle herself emotionally in the face of conflict. You cannot spazz out over everything and expect to not be painting into the “angry black woman” trope. Kill them with kindness sis. Get the dang key card, smile in the towel lady’s face, and don’t ruin your vacation over pettiness
I agree with you, too. I'm a first generation asian american and I really liked that they touched on this issue. It's eye-opening to see how racism is played for different minorities. The episode could've portrayed this social issue a bit better or more in depth but I still enjoyed it nonetheless. My best friend is black and so her definition of racism and mine would have obvious discrepancies because of our different experiences
Grace is what Molly lacks. Andrew gives her so much grace and she doesn’t seem to feel that anyone else deserves the benefit of the doubt. Not Issa, not Condola, not her dad, not the towel lady, not her assistant, not Nathan. She sees the worst in EVERYONE. What if the towel lady had been serving the white couple towels all day and had already checked their key card? As a black woman, I get what Victor was saying. Maybe it was racially motivated...Maybe it wasn’t- but for sanity’s sake just give the towel girl the benefit of the doubt and keep it pushing. Victor doesn’t know her and didn’t handle the situation well, but he was trying to get her to realize that maybe there was an alternate explanation for what the girl did and to let it go, not to convince her that racial bias doesn’t exist. Molly turned up and it went left. There is a time and a place for everything- Isaa’s block party wasn’t it. Meeting your bae’s family for the first time in Mexico isn’t the appropriate time for a meltdown either. Molly should never have brought the drama back to the pool. She needs to learn how not to prematurely judge people and things in her life and how not to throw a tantrum when things don’t go her way. Only toddlers do that, Molly needs to grown up.
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Very well said.
This is the best explanation for Molly! I couldn’t put my finger on it but this was it!!
🎯 Perfect description
I agree. She handled the situation horribly and made a bad first impression.
I’m waiting for Andrew to actually hold Molly accountable for being messy.
I think he might leave her because she's just too explosive for his usually chill self. I think he realises that he would spend a lot of his time apologising to people on her behalf if they were to stay together.
Exactly! He has been holding his tongue about so much. He said he doesn't let things fester so I'm wondering if he just wants to see where it's going since he has opened himself up. I hope she gets it together before he's gathered enough information.
Yeah, he seems way too chill, and she always turns up. Eventually, he'll bounce and she'll be back to square one, wondering what happened?
Am I the only one who thinks Andrew is used to this because Victor is his brother who doesn't hold his tongue either.
Hello everyone. There's something else I forgot to touch on. As much as I like Andrew for Molly, I'm not sure I like Molly for Andrew. In last night's episode Molly dissed Nathan and cursed at Andrew's brother right in front of him. Andrew just let that slide. I know he's patient but is he also a pushover? Molly's disrespect of people that are in Andrew's inner circle should have been addressed.
Maybe Molly realised that and it could be part of the reason for her deciding to go back to therapy🤷♀️
I’m glad you said that, Andrew needs to drop Molly for his mental health 🤷🏾♂️. It’s been draining watching him deal with her.
He’s a pushover. He didn’t even tell her to apologize to his brother. And she keeps talking bad about Issa when last episode she basically was being remorseful! Also, who talks about someone’s homeboy then act concerned after you get checked 😒 also, maybe it’s just me, but it seems that they only connect during sex. They did nothing else but have sex...
I think that when she told him she wanted to date a guy with depth, she hit a sore spot that he is trying to compensate for. It seems that before, when he saw a red flag he would get up and leave. But now, he sees red flags and seems to think it might be his problem and the solution is to open up instead of walking away. Hopefully he will figure it out.
They have sexual chemistry but that's not enough for a healthy relationship.
I'm an interracial dater (I still date black men as well) and I became one after getting told one too many times that I didn't seem "black enough". I had enough with the insults about my interest (Anime, Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Foreign Dramas, Non R&B/Hip-Hop musical genres). It opened up my dating pool to find the men who liked "me". Have I had to explain a thing or two? Yes. Thankfully I had partners who were willing to listen. THAT'S the key - in any relationship. You won't always match your partner, even if you are dating a same race person. There will be times you have to talk it out.
I work in hospitality so I have had it all thrown at me from guests & maybe that helps me internalize, sit with it, deal, and let it go, if needed. If not, then we talking. If you not willing to talk, then I need to be willing to walk. Point blank and periodt!
@Toya you are so right! I too date outside my race/ethnicity and I realized having a partner who listens and who likes "me" for me are important!!
What black man doesn't like anime or sci fi? Seriously? Who are these men?
I love your interests.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE FACT THAT MOLLY ARGUES FOR A LIVING. It’s why She’s always ready to fight 😂😂
On the top of interracial dating: I often date outside my race. Not because I don’t value black men, but because often they don’t value us in the same regard. Black women are loyal to black men in a way that is not reciprocated. Black men are seemingly more likely to marry outside their race. I see no issues of dating a man who is interested in me and willing to court me properly no matter their race.
I've been interracially involved a lot, too, but misogyny and racism against Black women is literally everywhere. So it's not even worth playing the game of "stepping out" just because Black men are doing it. That's not shade because it sounds like your reason is different, but I hear this a lot and it doesn't do us any good. Because either it leads to us dating people determined not to understand our plight, or us hurting people who may genuinely care, just because we've been burned repeatedly. I feel that as a Black woman, I can't be out here using other people's race as a weapon or emotional fallout shelter. Because patriarchy & racism are so entrenched, attraction & relationships are things I feel I have to take one day at a time. Like, have my standards, but take my time.
Black men are not likely to marry outside of their race. 85% of Black men marry Black women. I’m glad you found someone to date but don’t blame brothers. It’s ok to date anyone that values you.
Tracie Smith again MOST black men DO NOT MARRY AND ONLY about 30% of black men ever marry in a lifetime and mixed & biracial women heck EVEN WHITE PASSING mixed with black ppl are listed as black in America so I’m not buying this 85% dating fully black women.
@@mimilocke5650 You just named several different kinds of black people, and are acting surprised most black men marry black women. Unpack that.
@@mimilocke5650 Where is the data that most black men don't marry? And even if they're biracial in America they're still black. Statistics say that most black men marry black woman. That's reality even if it's not YOUR reality.
I feel Molly’s feelings were valid but her delivery and generalizations about another ethnicity was very wrong. She may have offended them as deeply as she was offended by the towel incident. That exchange should have ended with a request to agree to disagree and enjoy the vacation. Molly has altercations frequently. She definitely needs to return to therapy and find out why she had to be right all the time even if she doesn’t have the facts and it is destructive.
Exactly. She should have firmly ended the conversation instead of dropping F bombs on your boyfriend's brother that you're meeting for the 1st time. Plus is there an all inclusive resort/cruise, etc that doesn't require a key card/pass for everything? All we saw was the white couple being handed their towels so we don't know if they showed their card or not. Pick your battles and get the doggone card for the towel...snatch it from her if toy want. But no need to blow up about every little thing
Can we talk about her using the f word twice to Andrew's brother!!!! I just dont understand how Andrew is always so forgiving! I love that he brings her back to common sense but I feel like sometimes he validates her bad behaviour!
He's gonna get tired. I feel it.
Girl I thought I was the only one who thinks he needs to check her more
@@cydneyche1 He's going to get tired of apologising for her behaviour. She's very explosive. she needs to talk to her therapist about that.
That's going to start wearing thin soon, there is only so much a person can take, especially one that's as chill as Andrew.
My very dark father and I went to HomeHardware store. We were in line and the older white attendant saw us waiting and motioned for the white guy who came after to be attended to first. I called it out there and then. “We have been standing here” He became flustered and started overly apologizing because his manager appeared. I know we on that Molly hate train but Molly has every right to point it out. I will not make myself smaller and accept these subtle aggressions towards my black existence... because it’s easier.
We as black people all have stories like this. Stories where we were treated less than and we are expected to just go with it to keep the peace or risk being labeled "the angry black woman" or "angry black man". Labeling us like that is how some people try to diminish our pain and invalidate our genuine expereinces.
The issues in this instance are:
1. Molly didn't see when the white couple approached the desk, so we do not know if the lady asked them for their room key. We only see them receiving a towel, so we can only assume.
2. Calling out asian people on the first meeting with your partner's family and cursing at him is not what you should do if you want to continue dating your asian partner.
G These were also my exact thoughts!
G if the white couple showed their key card why didn’t the attendant say that?? :/ Because the white couple didn’t! She just asked Molly. And who has their key card in their bathing suit? International black ppl are still looked at as the bottom and white people are admired & elevated! Slavery was ALL OVER the Americas.
Comparing my experience, I didn’t have my key card on me bc I was in a bathing suit and just got out of the cruise pool but the cruise gave me a towel no question asked. Two even. It’s just a towel!
@@mimilocke5650 or maybe they did and she was so thrown off by molly questioning her that she didn't think to mention it? If molly did see it then ok that lady probably was being prejudice but everything after that moment shows how she isn't ready to handle conflict in a healthy way.
I wish Molly would’ve stayed and had the conversation with Victor. I’m not minimizing racism, but I watched the scene back, and Molly walked up to the towel counter at the very end of the white couple’s towel transaction. She couldn’t have seen if they showed the woman their card or not. And then Victor comes AFTER the couple is gone. But in the pool, Victor initially agreed with Molly that he also saw the white couple not show their card. But in reality, neither of them saw the couple show or not show their card
Deliberate ambiguity on the part of the script and director maybe
J C - absolutely it is, which is what they are trying to get across. Molly made a really definitive judgment of the situation not having all the facts (but thinking she does), Victor also not knowing all the facts was trying to get her to understand that there may be an alternate explanation in this particular case in the hopes that she could calm down and continue having fun. Unfortunately he doesn’t know Molly well enough to communicate this effectively to her. Molly heard him being devil’s advocate as him invalidating her life experience as a black woman because she was already in her feelings about towel girl. Molly needs to learn better emotional regulation.
I can be Molly at times, I can overreact when it’s not needed and I can also be like Issa and avoid altercations. It just depends on the situation.
I see you seeing yourself! :)
The Flight Attendant at the Gate was Jay Ellis' mom Ms. Paula Bryant Ellis 😁😁😁😁❤❤❤❤
Awwww
And the name that one of the guys was holding up at the airport “Nora Grace” is Jay Ellis’ daughter’s name. So sweet that he included his family in the episode he directed
@@luvleechick12 I noticed that too, so sweet. Then I wondered, who is 'Shadow Rothwell'? Must be Natasha Rothwell lol
Molly experienced “interracial dating 101”. No matter how evolved or progressive your partner may be you’re always going to have interactions with their friends or family members who are not. She’s going to have to learn how to handle that in a more dignified way. However, you can experience these issues dating someone of your own race. I was in a relationship with a black man who had a very politically conservative outlook and conversations with him about race and feminism were exhausting. I’ve learned to just say “let’s agree to disagree and move on”(but this is complicated when you’re sleeping with this fool). Black women have very different experiences with racism and sexism than anyone else. I don’t think Molly or any other black woman should have to explain that to anyone unless she’s getting paid for it. If others want to learn about racism and the plight of black women they can just pick up a book. Maybe she should just refer Andrew’s brother to a nice little reading list 😂.
I think a relationship between Issa & Nathan is more interesting. I would like to see how Nathan is dealing with his problems and how it is to date someone with mental health issues.
Yep!! Absolutely!!
I really like how Nathan encourages Issa to be great. But I could see his mental issues becoming a distraction for her.
We don't even know if the white couple showed their key or not. All we saw was them being handed towels 🤦🏾♀️. She has very little self control!! She blew up at Issa and was ready to fight at her event, cursed at Andrew's brother...who she just met. If she feels disrespected she reacts in the worse possible way. She should've just exited the pool and talked to Andrew about it privately and let HIM address his brother. She should've talked to Issa privately instead of embarrassing her publicly. She really needs to learn how to control herself. At least she's reaching back out to her therapist...hopefully this time she sticks with it.
I completely agree, she really let a key card ruin her vacation. There are some things that are not worth getting upset over. As a lawyer, I keep expecting Molly to act in a more professional manner, but I guess not
It wasn't just about the key card it was also about how Andrew's brother kept trying to invalidate Molly's feelings about it. If she felt like it was racially motivated that's her right. Molly should have handled it better but wasn't entirely wrong. I would be upset to if someone who was not black was trying to tell me that what I experienced wasn't racism when I knew that it was.
@@lifewithshawnda I'm addressing Molly's behavior not whether she was justified in her feelings or not. You can feel how you feel but how constructive is yelling and cursing at the people you say you want to have a relationship with? It's not. She cant control someone else's opinion...she can only control herself which she has problems doing. Issa's events, her mom and dad's anniversary, etc. Theres definitely a pattern there whether her feelings are justified or not.
And a person can be upset about something and handle it in a mature fashion. Not everything needs to come down to yelling and cursing
Courtney Johnson I understand where your coming from but why we should always be mature .. ? Not in this case with Molly , the lady was doing her job and she could avoid this situation but sometimes they are disrespectful, hurtful with bad manners but WE as black people should be the bigger person. It tends to invalidate our feelings. I behave the same way you behave but bc I’m black it’s worse ?
@@haryel5058 I feel where you're coming from. I've been in situations like this where it was blantaly racist and honestly I'm not going back and forth with a towel lady. I'm telling her to go ahead and get her manager so I can address it from that level then escalating if necessary. I've done it and gotten apologies, comps, etc. Being the bigger person isn't ignoring it, its calling it out in a constructive way. Snatching the towel and storming off didn't do anything except disturb Molly's peace.
Issa called her mother. Molly called her therapist. The fact they didn't call each other seems to me that they are definitely ready to change & grow...maybe just not with each other.
And Issa does not need to be with Lawrence or Nathan. She needs to instead get a handle on her non-confrontation/avoidance otherwise she'll keep attracting men who'll subconsciously exploit (Lawrence) or mirror (Nathan) that avoidance.
if I could've "thumbs upped" this twice...!!💯💯
10000% agree. Issa needs to create a better version of herself to attract the right person for her. Lawrence and Nathan are in the past and they are gonna bring her down if she chooses one of them. They need to move on with their lives too.
Preach that sis! Issa is growing but has a ways to go. Molly is growing as well but likewise has more work to do. Right now these two trigger each other too much to work through this issue and be close friends. Once they both evolve a little more they may be able to mend this and become sisters again or get closure and move on as acquaintances.
Fabalocious Dee great analogy! I never recognized that correlation.
Oop best comment I’ve seen on this!!!!
Maybe its just me but I genuinely don't feel like the towel girl was being racist. Now, was Victor being a jerk for continuing to talk about it even after Molly was clearly upset? Yes. This was their first time meeting. And you don't know Molly or her experiences. He should've left it alone.
He definitely poked the bear.
I feel bad but im like did molly see the couple from the start? But im assuming from the scene she was right. But molly and victor were both wrong in the pool
@@LoveSierraAnastasia See, thats what I was thinking! Girl I ran it back and she only saw them getting their towels. Lol I also was going off of personal experience and they typically ask for your room key.
It's not just you, I didn't feel anything by it either. Victor was being a troll, he should have let it go.
Facts
Excuse me, Molly completely overreacted. It's a running theme on the show. She needs to learn how to control her emotions. Take the hotel situation, for example. Rather than have a verbal sparring session with the towel girl, she could have asked to speak to the manager and filed a complaint. She would have gotten a towel and a complimentary massage out of the situation. And cursing out Andrew's brother?!? Completely unnecessary. For an attorney, Molly sure does struggle with pilling out her big girl words when she's upset...everytime she gets pissed it's all "Eff you".
Molly needs anger management.
My main concern is that the writers are not doing Molly's character justice for the sake of pushing the point that she has anger issues. Molly is a lawyer. Someone who has to articulate themselves under pressure everyday using solid points and logical thinking. I can't see someone with that kind of day job reacting this way in that pool scene.
I saw this on twitter but one of the many things that made me upset about the towel scene is how Molly is a whole lawyer but couldn’t fully articulate her position in the conversation. As far as the baecation, Andrew and Molly should’ve went by themselves 🤦🏾♀️ especially with it being their first vacation together. Issa and Molly have both wronged each other but as far as their most recent incident goes, I agree with Issa for not reaching out. As we saw in this episode, Molly is so in her head that she thinks Issa is suppose to reach out to HER as if she played no part in ruining Issa’s block party. Glad she called the therapist.
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Purple peace you are spot on!
I enjoy seeing the relationship with Molly and Andrew. I think the relationship is addressing many concerns many black women have when it comes to interracial dating. The person you are with maybe aware or " woke" for lack of better terms like Andrew but their family maybe not have the same views. I also like how this relationship is taking Molly out of her comfort zone. Clearly her past relationship surrounded sex, and dinners. It was nice watching Molly hike and zip lining.
Molly and Andrew have almost been in a bubble. This is the first time we've seen how Andrew and his family handle their interracial relationship. Andrew did well. He was supportive and encouraging as always. He took Molly at her word and never questioned her experience. Victor failed miserably.
@@lifewithshawnda I loved how Andrew defended Molly. But I will say that if Molly doesn't do the work and handle her emotions and her anger how long can Andrew keep defending her
Right. It truly spoke to my fears of interracial dating
@@Pagesandperfumes Absolutely!
1. Yes, I think that Nathan can have a healthy relationship with Issa; however Nathan does need to make sure that he helps himself by taking the necessary steps, like going to therapy, meditating, etc.
2. No, I don't think Lawrence is a good fit for Issa, I feel as though he wants to get back with Issa because its comfortable for him. He's used to her and he knows what its like to be with her and he probably just misses that feeling. And if Lawrence tells Issa he wants to get back together, I hope she says no. She's gotten his far without him and I hope she keeps going.
3. I don't think Molly was wrong, she has a right to feel however she wants to. Her feelings are valid, though I don't think she should of given that experience as much energy as she did. I would be in an interracial relationship, but that person would have be culturally sensitive and be an ally. If I said I felt someone was acting racist towards me I would want them to believe me and listen to what I had to say, not invalid my feelings( like Andrew's brother did).
My issues in this instance are:
1. Molly didn't see when the white couple approached the desk, so we do not know if the lady asked them for their room key. We only see them receiving a towel, so we can only assume.
2. Calling out all asian people on the first meeting with your asian partner's family and cursing at him is not what you should do if you want to continue dating your asian partner. I agreed with her defending her position, but she crossed a line.
Overall, I felt Andrew did great job, because he was defending Molly, even after she made that comment about all asians. He seems like he would be a great ally if Molly was capable of having a healthy conversation about racism and race relations with him. They haven't had deep conversations like that yet though.
Definitely #2! What happened to trying to make a good impression? Truly messed up
She blocks her own blessings, I'm afraid.
Anti-blackness is super prevalent in Asian culture. Molly experienced racism and Andrew’s brother should have shut up. Racial micro aggression is real.
I think once Molly realized that there was more to the story about Nathan than she knew, she realized that Issa was probably right not to throw him away after he ghosted. Molly sees the world in black and white and Issa lives in the gray, which Molly sees as “messy”. The problem is, life is all about shades of gray. Maybe towel girl saw the white couple’s card before Molly walked up to the cabana. Maybe the towel girl had served that couple all day, or all week and recognized them. Without all the facts Molly dismissed the girls as racist. Grace is giving people the benefit of the doubt when you don’t have all that facts. Molly needs to work on extending grace to the people in her life.
I never got a racist vibe from the towel lady at all. And when Molly walked up they were already there. I've stayed at many hotels like this and they always ask for some sort of guest credentials, whether it's an armband, a room key, a lanyard or something. If you're staying there multiple days, the staff usually starts recognising people so the process is smoother. But the process is usually still there.
Your take was spot on. I'm happy Molly called her therapist. Molly needs to learn to pick her battles and to realize people mess up but they can change. When she told Andrew that Issa ran from her like she was a job (I hope I heard that right) that told me so much. I like how she's growing to have these self-realizations and is working to do something about it.
Shanny D You heard it right. That was cold for her to say that about Issa. I’ve seen Issa working this entire time. That was just an unnecessary cheap shot at her “bestie”.
I believe Molly & Andrew's relationship is based on the physical. I have not seen the progression of their relationship on both of their ends.
agree. their relationship has no substance.
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Molly was definitely serving on this trip... yes ma’am!
That being said...Andrew’s brother would never have taken that so called “devil’s advocate” position if he’d ever experienced that type of racism. There’s no light conversations about racism.
I have dated outside my race. The person was extremely aware of systemic racism but some cultural differences did have an impact on us. Music, and Religious views were some of the issues we experienced. We couldn’t overcome the religious issue.
I think Molly & Issas rift goes all the way back to season 1. Y’all remember Issa’s Broken P song lol
S F yes 🤣🤣 that was so disrespectful.
I went back and rewatched the first few seasons to see if I could catch where it started to unravel....and it’s there right in the first episode. Great writing!
I agree. Their dynamic has always been the same since season one but the blow up at the block party may not allow them to recover.
And broken P was absolutely hilarious.
😂 I forgot about that
I’ve dated outside of my race several times in the past, and my current boyfriend is a North African Arab. Interracial dating has never been too difficult to me. I’ve had a few awkward conversations regarding hair (especially wigs), but my partners have always been very accepting. Personally, I don’t need a partner to have experienced the same exact struggles as me because, at the end of the day, a lot of black men aren’t aware of or refuse to acknowledge the unique plight that only comes with being a black woman either. Aside from sharing common principles, the most important thing to me is that my partner is empathetic, open-minded, willing to listen, and is willing to use his privilege to defend me if the time ever calls for it.
The room key thing is unclear. She didn’t see if the woman asked or not, she only saw them receive the towels.
Well for me to date outside my race, he has to be an ally. He needs to be aware of some nuance and understand that racism isn’t going to be flat out there. He also needs to check his circle cuz I’m not hanging with ppl that are racist.
Yes, he would have to be an ally. It's not enough that you "think black girls are pretty." He should actively be trying to understand your black experience. Devil's advocate is not a position an ally would play. It's dismissive.
@@trish0817 nice try generalising troll
Devil’s advocate: there are good people on both sides. Nope.
I think Andrew is an ally. He checked his brother. I don't think his brother is necessarily racist but I do think he is an idiot. He is not the type of person that can tell when he is going too far. He is tone deaf to other people's reactions. You don't play "devil's advocate" when people are angry. He was extra in one way and his wife was extra in another.
Girl, black men aren’t even allies to black women! Good luck with that!
Molly is displacing anger toward her assistant because remember when her and Issa was getting along, she had then become cool with the coworkers. Now that her and Issa are fighting, she's displacing her anger toward her staff
I think Molly overreacted a little bit to the situation but that conversation with Victor is a very frustrating convo to have with other people of color that are not black
Victor's personality is SO annoying! He's nothing like Andrew but this was also Molly's first time meeting her boyfriend's family. As articulate as Molly is she should have found a better way to express her frustration with Victor than yelling an expletive at him. She would never let Andrew get away with doing that to HER family (even if they were wrong).
I too agree the brother being nonchalant demeanor was wrong. But for Molly to be a Dark skin black woman in Corporate America I am so surprised she doesn't have a better set of tools to deal with these racist situations. As a dark skin women I am always mindful of my melanin so regardless of who is racist towards me I have to be mindful of how I react.
Andrea Clinton you have seen the way Molly was at her white law firm? The way she adjusts personality. As someone who is black in a white place you just change and it minimizes those situations especially dealing with intelligent high functioning people. They happen but you almost expect it and it’s less jarring. You don’t really expect racism on a vacation at a hotel you’re paying for
@@lifewithshawnda I think the fact that Andrew is so mild mannered makes it easier for Molly to hear him. If he fought Molly's fire with his own, it would just be a whole bunch of fighting but because he approaches her calmly and lays the truth gently at her feet. There is nothing to fight. She can only listen.
@@lifewithshawnda Truth!
I work in hospitality, and sometimes when i should check id, i choose not to if i recognize the guest. I will ask if i do not. Also, she did not
see if the couple had already shown their key card before she walked up. It’s all about perspective. And I also think that they could have just had a mature conversation about their thoughts, but instead molly took the immature approach by cursing out the person who does not agree with her and challenged her to change what she perceived. And I am a black woman.
I am not saying it was not racism because it could have very been, but it could have also very well had not been. I am black and have been called racist by my own people sometimes when I was just doing my job. I just open minded.
I'm from the Caribbean and our hotels always ask for guest credentials for certain services if it's not obvious that the person is a guest, like wearing a hotel armband or lanyard or something. Credentials are always asked for anything - towels, beverages, meals, activities. None of that interaction seemed out of place for me. But I think Molly has just been so primed for an argument that it doesn't even matter anymore who she blows up at, she's just ready to fight.
Exactly maybe she has seen that couple before.
Molly was wrong to argue with Andrew's brother. Everyone has their own perspective when it comes to race and I'm sure Asians have stories to tell about the racism that they have experienced. She's definitely entitled to feel how she felt but when you're dating someone cursing out their family is not the way to make a good impression. I honestly dont think they're gonna make it as a couple
There wouldn't be a Molly and Andrew if it wasn't for Issa. Not just because Molly met him through Issa, but also due to the advice Issa gave Molly about him, several times. Issa has helped Molly as well, she was the one who suggested that Molly talk to a therapist, she has given Molly advice about being a better person. That's why I'm not a Molly fan, she can't see things outside of herself and in my opinion, that's not a good friend to have period.
Molly has control issues... That's her personality...
Yes! And she gets angry when she can't control you. When you give a friend advice they're not obligated to take it. Advice is take it or leave it. Molly's advice comes across more as a demand when it comes to Issa. Issa is a grown woman who can make her own decisions. And if they're the wrong decision it's still up to Issa to deal with it. Molly is too invested.
Molly goes from 0 to 10 in no time! She reacts before she thinks.
Yes! There's a time and place for everything. She picks the WORST times to show out.
Life Coach Shawn
No she don’t! I don’t know why you insist on turning people against Molly, calling her an angry Black chick, and saying that she has control issues just because you don’t understand her character
Molly does not seem to understand the phrase "time and place". The time to confront your best friend about whatever arbitrary thing your mad about is NOT during her very large, every important event. The time to have an argument about racism and microaggressions is probably NOT on the 2nd day of a vacation with your boyfriends family whom you should be trying to make a good impression with. Yes, Victor was being an ass, but that argument was 100% in her control and the lawyer in her let it keep going, ending in cursing him out?!
My exact thoughts! She causes more harm than good because she continuously does not know when to talk about things and when to table them.
I personally don’t think issa and Lawrence should get back together. They are too complacent with each other . They don’t push each other to be better . He just wanted her back because it’s comfortable. Lawrence hasn’t changed , he always picks what’s comfortable for him . also , I date men outside my race . It’s different and I like it . I like dating outside my race because they don’t have heavy feeling of being black in America . I feel lighter emotionally.
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Issa didn’t blow Molly off. When they had that hike and Issa told her “you create all these problems when things are ok.” So Issa didn’t want to hear Molly complaining about Andrew again. Also Issa always makes the initial move to apologize to Molly but Molly never does that and that’s because as you said Molly is a lawyer and “the first person to talk is the weak one during negotiations/arguments” So yes Molly should’ve spoken up at a better place even via text/voicemail just to say I really need to talk to you about our friendship maybe that would’ve opened up communication between them. It goes back to Molly feeling superior to Issa. I’m loving the recaps I’m new here and now a subbie.
Molly is a confronter and Issa is an avoider but in the past, Issa actively avoided everyone but Molly. Previous seasons, for the most part, Issa "avoided" confrontations with Molly by letting her do and say whatever regardless of how much it hurt or inconvenienced her. If you've noticed, this season, the only person Issa actively avoids is Molly and with good reason. Molly is steadfast in her righteousness no matter how wrong she is or how valid Issa's arguments are and having a serious conversation with someone like that eats away at your esteem and is draining af. Issa has grown tired of that dynamic whereas Molly wants to hold on to it for dear life which is why she's transferred her b.s. onto to Andrew because he coddles her and overlooks and/or downplays her behavior.
Molly doesn't see that she unloads her problems onto people. People get tired of hearing your problems especially when you alway seem to have one. You're right. Molly was the only one she avoided this season. Issa had so much to do for the block party that she couldn't be Molly's therapist. Molly's used to Issa having nothing going on and willing drop everything to hear her problems. Issa didn't do that this season.
Are they co-dependent or each other is it just Molly too dependent on Issa?
Life Coach Shawn i think they were co-dependent on each other but this season Issa is starting to grow an not need Molly as much but Molly still needs her rather bad are good. I do still think Molly is more at fault because your friends grow and it’s important you see that but all Molly sees is Issa not being there for her. But what Issa needed this season is support an because she has always been Molly‘s cheerleader so what she needed from Molly wasn’t judgement or told what to do but just a cheerleader someone in her corner the way Nathan has been but all Molly wanted was whatever was good for Molly.
@@lifewithshawnda Hmmm...good question. I do think it has been a slightly co-dependent relationship but Molly is more dependent on Issa. In the past, as fun as they were together, I do think they were toxic in that Issa always dimmed her light by comparing herself to Molly and her success while Molly enjoyed being the more successful put together one. Now Issa has stepped out of Molly's shadow and I think she wants to share that success with Molly but Molly isn't ready for their dynamic to change; Issa feels that though she might not understand it. Back when Issa was doing some truly messy stuff, I don't ever recall Molly being this angry or judgmental but that's because Issa was still as Molly needed her to be. The things Issa is doing now are actually more mature than she's ever been yet Molly wastes 0 seconds calling it messy.
@@lifewithshawnda You're so right about Issa having nothing going on and Molly expecting her to be available at all times which is why I think in so many ways she's transferring onto Andrew. I do think he is good for her in the way that he does make her pause but I think he's bad for her in the way he ignores/downplays her behavior when it comes to others.
I’m sorry but I can’t be friends with someone who tried to fight me over something like that. Once you step in my face like that, we are no longer friends.
Me too! We are grown-a$$ women and we are best friends. Why would you need to put hands on me?
mnady60 The crazy thing is that’s been bothering me ever the block party episode aired. I get that they we’re having issues with each other and need to talk about it, but if you have to resort to violence because you can’t articulate yourself in the proper way, that’s a huge problem. If Issa was the type to stand up for herself on consistent basis, Molly wouldn’t have done that.
@@fferret901 I agree that the violent reaction was way too much but I can't blame Issa for Molly's lack of control. We've seen Molly pop off on any and everybody with very little provocation. I think she almost became violent with Issa because her feelings had been brewing for a while. By the night of the block party, even after having a good time wobbling, all that tension exploded.
That makes sense. It seems like men are able to have that kind of confrontation and move on, sometimes that’s the only way they can move on! Women...not so much.
I have worked with those Victor types that just love to debate certain topic just because. He didn't see the whole situation so all he seen was.molly mad. As for interracial dating as long as you don't have your biases shouldn't be a problem. My pet peeve Is when people try to justify interracial dating
Molly wants people to understand her point of view while she is being dismissive of everyone.
Was waiting. I’m over Molly, don’t care how cute her outfits were. I will say it is frustrating trying to get someone to understand an experience of yours and watch it still go over their heads or them take it lightly.
I like Nathan. A lot. Even with his mental health issues he got behind Issa on her project and wasn’t trying to gain anything. He did exactly what her “best friend” wouldn’t. With the new direction Issa seems to be going, I don’t know if it’d be healthy for them to date though. Andrew and Nathan have been better friends to Issa than Molly last few episodes! 🧐
I was at home balling my fist up at the tv hearing Molly continue to throw shade on Issa while she wasn’t even there! You don’t dog someone you were once joined at the hip with! You just met Andrew bih!
Don’t know about Lawrence. I feel if he finds a woman he can have a successful relationship with, Issa wouldn’t be a second thought. I hope Issa just keeps going so she might continue to find her voice and discover who she is.
I have not dated outside of black but I am definitely open to it now.
You might be surprised.
I was an extra for this episode and all I can say is the cast is suuuper nice, it was hot, everyone was super sweaty and the crew was always doing their best, everyone was handing out water and snacks so no one got sick. I saw that they made that short scene with the racist lady and it’s what convinced me to watch the show
Always love your take on the topics.
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I agree with Latoya. I tried to watch other recaps because you weren't up yet but I stopped almost immediately. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I have an Asian partner, and I'm going to show him both the Insecure episode and your recap to get a dialogue started. You made all the points I made about Molly's "debate" with Victor. So well done!
I thought it was super telling of her personality when they revealed the "surprises" they brought to spice things up sexually. Andrew brings a bunch of toys that would bring Molly pleasure meanwhile Molly just brings lingerie. So Andrew's thought process was "these are things I can bring more pleasure for Molly with" meanwhile Molly's thoughts are "I don't need to do anything for Andrew's pleasure, just looking at me is enough". Pure narcissism.
Molly used to live thru Issa’s personal life while Issa thrived benefitting from Molly’s professional success, now that it’s flipping, they no longer need each other. Issa is becoming a successful business owner on her own without Molly’s money or resources, Molly is building a great relationship with Andrew without any outside complications, she doesn’t need the messiness of Issa’s personal life to have one herself. Now they’re going to assess the nature of their friendship
I’m gonna say it and some of y’all gonna get upset. Most black people would have reacted the exact same way Molly did to the entire Towel situation and the discussion with Victor afterwards when he questioned if it was racism. Black Americans especially are always sensitive to that stuff
I'm a black female trucker making $80K/yr. I'm in one of those Midwest meth addict county fair type places in between loads. I go into the truck stop and the teenage clerk who I'm sure has never left his county was watching me as I was looking at snacks. When his view was blocked, he came down the aisle, pretending to stock, to watch me. I'm 51, it's not because he thought I was cute. I'm sure he lives in one of the nearby trailer parks. I went to look at gift cards and he nearly ran back to the counter, where they were. So, I just gave him the deadpan, no words stare. He did the white boy nervous grin. And then i said loudly.."IM GOING TO THE 3RD AISLE NOW...MAKING SURE U CAN SEE ME, OK?!?!!". This happens in TX also with Mexicans that came over at 12, so they learned English and racism at the same time. It's always dirt poor, small county, areas. It's irritating as hell. I'm sensitive to the irony that I make in a week what most of these people profiling me won't see in months, yet all of the local folks and white truckers are never followed or doubted. In NJ I was refused purchasing a shower at the truck stop cuz the Guido didn't believe I drove trucks, and assumed I was prostituting on the lot. But I was wearing my company's polo shirt, and had steel toed boots on. I showed him my CDL. No other driver before in that line had t show PROOF. And I embarrassed him really well in the process, I'm never silent. So, hell yeah we're sensitive to it. And I ALWAYS address it.
And our reason as to why we're sensitive to that what you call "stuff", is plausibly understandable.
No, that's called immaturity. When you're a full grown person who is secure in yourself, you realize you have to pick your battles.
@@kcfrancis94 Not to assume anything but have you read Carter G. Woodson's The Miseducation of The Negroe? That book was life changing for me because he breaks it down simply and eloquently as to how wealthy whites did not want poor whites to identify with black people during that time, even though both demographics were being oppressed economically and socially.
@@chaw3858 And she picked one that was worthy in my opinion.
Good review. I agree that Molly has a lot of misplaced anger from her unresolved issues with Issa and other things. However, Andrews brother didn’t see what he was doing as “a friendly debate” he was being extremely arrogant and dismissive...the most problematic undertone from him was that of “just comply and things will be better.” However, even in Molly’s warranted anger I feel as though she could have been a bit more articulate, i.e not telling Victor “Fu($-you” when she was storming off. Molly is a trained litigator, as you mentioned however it’s perplexing to me that she never demonstrates the positive aspect of said skill when she’s communicating with her friends.
A good portion of my fears when it comes to interracial dating was shown on yesterday’s episode. To think I believed it would be easier being with a non-white POC LOl. Way too complicated!!
Lol Andrew is always catering to Molly.. it’s a lot. Poor guy.
I think he's going to get tired of always apologising on her behalf. Plus, she has so far insulted several people in his circle.
I really felt what you said about Molly cutting people off. If cancel culture were a person, it would be Molly. Cause that's exactly what she does. Make assumptions and cancels people. How you gonna be anyone's ride or die doing that? If i was making moves like that with my friends, my 20 year friendships would have never lasted. Molly can't have functional relationships if she's running around acting like a Twitter hashtag. Glad she called her therapist. It shows growth.
Issa and Molly do need to have that conversation (although i still support Issa not going into the restaurant because neither of them were ready for it then)
Now as for Issa and Molly...a lot of ppl mention that Issa shouldn’t call Molly because Issa always reaches out first. I’m not a fan of score keeping in any type of relationship, and I do think Molly should reach out first because she started the fight. This doesn’t absolve Issa of her part in it, her intentions weren’t just to secure an act for block party. She wanted to spite Molly, hence her comment to Molly during the fight “ you wanted me to fail” which wasn’t fair. Issa may reach out more because she often is the root cause of the fights. The reason Issa was so pressed about Molly’s “user” comment was because it is true. Do you all remember when Isa was calling all the ppl in her phone to ask them to help with the block party...she had no clue what had transpired in those ppl’s lives...someone’s love one had died and Issa was non the wiser. Molly’s issues are a lot more plain, but Issa has contributed a good amount to the breakdown as well.
I get the frustration of the towel and keycard but she didn’t necessarily see the keycard the couple before pulled. I’ve been to hotels where you need a keycard for chairs and towels etc. She was doing too much and was channelling her anger from her argument with Issa
I think this vacation opened his eyes about Molly.
When you come to tune in for the analysis with tea in hand, but get a lightbulb moment that you yourself have some Molly traits 🤭. Even got off the phone an hour ago and a friend strongly advocated that I consider my law degree, because of my natural black/white argumentative no view of grey nature...then I tune into this...mmmk...definitely need to re-examine some base line traits in my life apparently...(may need to book a session with you 🤔), but I digress.
This episode was a bit flat but your analysis was so on point! One thing I’d like to mention is that Andrew is an absolutely wonderful man, but I feel that he is getting a little doormat treatment from Molly. He has been a supportive boyfriend, but I feel she takes him for granted at times.
And a little fun fact this weeks episode was directed by Jay Ellis...the character “Lawrence”! Nice to see him behind the scenes flex his directing chops...not too shabby for a directorial debut.
ColdDiva You’re ahead of the curve, because most viewers are so busy hating the characters for their flaws they don’t stop and think about their own lives!
quitecontrary23 Thank you 😊 , I try to have self awareness good and the bad
I definitely feel you! Life in quarantine has shown me that like Molly, I desperately need therapy lol. I'm the total opposite to her in that on the surface my I'm much more like Issa or Andrew, but I relate a lot to Molly's tendency to act on pure emotion and her poor communication skills.
A lot of the times, what we find repulsive in others is exactly what we know deep down to be issues we also face ourselves.
"Giving some man some thug passion"🤣🤣🤣 I actually like Nathan. He has issues, but still seems to be a solid guy. Lawrence and Issa are in a good place with each other, both should keep it moving. I'm all for BW dating interracially. Just make sure to choose wisely and date men who are true allies. That won't disregard your experiences on racism and allow you to speak freely. Jay Ellis did an excellent job directing this episode. Yvonne Orji is gorgeous 😍
Yes Molly is a character, but she is also human. And although I feel that the comments made here about Molly are accurate, the lack of empathy towards Molly makes me uncomfortable. It's funny that the Shawn says Molly sees things as Black and White while her approach in breaking down Molly's character is in itself Black and White.
Im bothered by the fact that it's all about how 'toxic' Molly is and not why she may be the way she is. It basically feels like I'm not being given the whole picture.
I was one of the people that wanted to knock Molly out because of the utter scene she made at the block party and I still do feel that way and listening to your commentary really gave me another perspective on how Molly has actually been hurt by Issa. The scene with Molly, Andrew, Victor and Lydia was POWERFUL because people who are not black....particularly black and female can NEVER understand truly, the depths of pain that is kind of apart of our pathology and just the blatant mistreatment of black women throughout history. So I do understand Molly saying what she said and the passion and hurt behind WHY she said it. I personally have come to a place that I do not need you to confirm or affirm my mistreatment because I feel it in my hair follicles, my nose, my ears my chest....right down to my toes. As far as Nathan and Issa, hopefully they did discuss his reason for ghosting her and hopefully he gets the needed resources to cope.
I would not say that Molly was in the wrong with the towel situation. Molly may want to practice being able to apply various perspectives in her personal life. Mexico is not the USA, and besides, I am not sure she interpreted the situation correctly. I think Andrew is good for Molly. My concern, is Molly good for Andrew?
Mexico is definitely not USA. She would have had to show her key in Jamaica too and it would not have been about race.
Perceived racism isn't the same as real racism. Perceiving something is coming from your own experience/point of view. You cannot extend that to people outside of yourself. You cannot tell people that you know what they're thinking better than they do.
The scene was set up intentionally that Molly walked over right as the white couple was being handed the towel. We didn't see them show a room key because we didn't see the entire interaction, just the very end. We also don't know if the white couple had been there already and came back to get more towels. Once an employee sees you/recognizes you they generally don't ask for it again. This was Molly's first time going up to the towel distributor and there's nothing unreasonable about the hotel policy to ask guests for room keys.
It is true, you can't control others but you can control your reaction. And Molly reacting that way, if the towel girl was exhibiting bias, is actually more likely to reinforce the bias rather than make them become more thoughtfully aware of it. Ultimately we do want to live in a world where bias isn't affecting us. Yelling and screaming at people doesn't change much of anything and it only gets you heated. I understand we are all emotional beings but we also have the ability to have rational thoughts. People who can't handle themselves are not great to be around. Andrew is trooper for how he handled the situation between Molly and his brother because it was a very awkward position for him to be in.
Victor was a dick for pressing on someone who was clearly upset and in an emotional state and wasn't ready or is perhaps incapable of having a non-emotionally driven conversation about racism/racial bias. But I also think the less we think of ourselves as first and foremost part of racial tribes, we then serve to dismantle this pervasive concept of racism, which is flawed and actually stems from white supremacy. It seems we are in a state lately of reinforcing the concept of race as a reality beyond just its social implications it has which are real, to making it a more concrete aspect of our identity. A black identity as an ethnicity (ie. Black American is a distinct ethnicity amongst African as is Jamiaican, Igbo Nigerian, Yoruba Nigerian, Ghanian, Malian, etc) is different than a black identity as a race- because black, white and Asian people have multiple cultures and ethnicities under them.
Things like religion and culture are things that a person can change if they want to, but our skin colors are not and the more we cement ourselves in the identity of our skin color that was bestowed upon everyone by western imperialism, it does the world a disservice. This is where I see the division between Victor and Molly's POV. Victor isn't interested in consuming himself with a racial identity.
I love your commentary and the way I can relate it to my life!! I dont like confrontations and feel you on taking mental notes because that's what happens.
Molly is so judgmental...I’m over it
She affords no one a single ounce of grace. Meanwhile she's a mess and her life in shambles.
Life Coach Shawn exactly but that’s a lot of people in real life... no one is perfect we all got issues and I find out people who are constantly judging have a lot of unaddressed issues that need attending to
Great review I felt Molly at that towel stand. I loved how you explained racism is different for different races 😍😍😍💕
Thanks, for the recap! This wasn't my favorite episode. I like the comedic relief in the mist of the drama and I didn't get that in this episode. I'm a fan nontheless so ill continue to tune in!
That's actually part of the problem with Molly she takes everything too seriously and needs to loosen up. Issa adds fun and laughter to Molly's life. Molly has this wall up. She would be so much happier if she would let it down, just a little.
This was an excellent analysis. I love how you do a play by play.
Molly acts like a lowkey hater in Issa's life. I put off watching the Molly Episode, in order to binge the Seasons real quick. Molly has always thrown shade at Issa attempting to shine. From the We Got Y'all fundraiser to the Networking event prior to the Block Party, Molly views Issa as the "Ne'er Do Well". Even if Issa is showing that her movements are paying off. Molly proved that her not asking Andrew was due to being petty and not for the reason that she told Issa. Issa's Mom told her right about entering a new Season.
I’m in an interracial relationship and speaking about race related issues can definitely be difficult. I feel like he sees it as verbal sparring or a debate. He doesn’t see it as painful as I have, but I think he’s trying.
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It was cringy when she said fu*k you to his brother. That was way to harsh for the situation. It wasn't that serious. Now it will always be a little awkward between them. I think she overreacted. It wasn't a huge deal for her to get that mad. Just my opinion others may feel differently.
I feel like Issa got tired of Molly always criticising her. It started with the Nathan situation and Molly sending him away. But really Why would you want to use your energy to have a conversation with someone who is probably going to talk down on you which is what Molly does. At least Issa tries to better herself and admits when she is wrong which is something molly doesnt do. Look at the difference between Issa last episode and Molly this episode and the way they handle it molly is still badmouthing Issa. Also molly really could have just gone to get the key card instead of reacting that way because we only saw the end of the white couple getting their towels we dont know if they showed their key or not
The difference in the Molly episode and Issa episode was very telling. Issa reflected on everything Molly said, tried to make changes and went to her mother for advice. Molly trash talked Issa, talked down to her assistant and cursed out Andrew's brother. Thankfully she did decide to go back to therapy but until then she refused to see any fault in anything she'd done or reflect at all on what Issa said.
@@lifewithshawnda Exactly. I dont think Issa would be avoiding Molly if she took accountability for her actions. They just arn't on the same page and never have been but maybe Issa is realising that now.
Finally someone that sees the underline issue and it ties the series together. Molly has been irritated with Issa since Lawrence was laid off for two years. Although, she wanted what Issa and Lawrence had, Molly had no tolerance for Lawrence’s depressing and jobless transition. This IS the Molly and Issa issue. If you stop and analyze the airport scene that was awkward because all Molly could think about was Lawrence trying to get a new job. “You got it” to a man you’ve said two words to in a year. She was cheering him on like he was handicapped. That relationship is where this riffed started. Which makes Molly really mad when she sees Issa and Lawrence interacting. So so good. Such an accurate reflection of real life relationship dynamics.
My personal fave thing about Molly is how she blew up at the Block Party so much that someone thought she had a knife or a gun, and everyone started ducking but expects Issa to approach her at the restaurant . Like girllll. You are beyoooond. Probably wanted a thank you card too 😂😂😂
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If the procedure is you have to see a room key first before giving out a towel to the guess and she was asking to see a room from everyone then yes but if she was being selective then Molly had a right to spaz out on her
Love this breakdown, I'm loving this show very much. I see myself in Issa and mostly in Molly, even though I'm not in the USA, as an immigrant, I have experienced discrimination, so I understand Molly's perspective and is hard when people want to have an opinion on something that they haven't experienced. It's a very sutil issue that's hard to put in words. As for Andrew and Molly's relationship, I hope she gets to experience love and be loved, I think that allows her to get more humble from now on, it would be very sad if they couldn't make it work
Nathan seems really good for Issa, but as you said is he doing the work not only for Issa but himself? If not, I don't see them working out.
The conversation between molly Andrews brother could have been an educational conversation.. as I black women I get her point of view but like you said no one else will understand if their not of the same race.
The other person has to WANT to understand. Andrew's brother didn't come across as someone who genuinely wanted to know where Molly was coming from. He came across as someone who loves to debate. You can't reason with something who has that kind of mindset. You have to agree to disagree and let it go.
I've never been in an interracial relationship because of my fear of a situation occurring like it did in this episode. As progressive and understanding your partner may be, his family may not. I've entertained a few people but have always wrestled with this fear so I would never let it get serious
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The Molly character has said this is the first time she has had to learn to adjust her life for someone else and wanted to put forth the effort to do it for someone she cares about and is willing to work at it. She is who she is and did not become that way overnight. It seems she is getting a boot camp on dealing with her attitude, judgements and reaponses to situations. I can see some of her changes since this show started and Andrew seems to be a big part of that. It is good to have ppl in your life that make you better and cause you to want to be better. With such a strong personality, laundry list of hurt, broken relationships and abandonement...ppl dont chg overnight but willingness, good counsel and consistency will go a long way.
Yeah just because racism exist that should not stop me dating outside my race. I’m not going live and play victim all my life. I think we need to start thinking more like that.
I’m sorry. I feel like this is mostly Molly’s fault. Cause Issa wasn’t pressed over molly. Molly was pressed over Issa. If she really wanted to talk to Issa. She should’ve pulled up on her. And forced her to talk it out. The only thing Issa did was focus on herself. Try to invest time and energy into herself. The minute Issa stoped revolving her life around molly.... now molly mad at issa😑😒. Like girl bye. If it was really that big of a deal, you would pull up and talk it out.
Molly and Issa are good enough friends for Molly to have pulled up. Issa was blowing Molly off all season and that hurt Molly more than she cares to admit. Molly likes to believe that Issa needs her but this season she realized that actually Issa doesn't.
Life Coach Shawn I definitely agree. That’s why I feel as though this mostly falls on Molly’s back. Because she was really the main one hurt. I literally had to go through the same thing with one of my cousins. We didn’t talk for a entire year. Because she was acting exactly like molly and not realizing her fault in the situation. The difference between Issa’s episode and Molly’s is that Issa self reflected and was trying to be better. Molly is still throwing blame. Smh
OMG! I agree. Molly is throwing blame and hasn't done any self reflecting. Like what part did she play in this? At least Issa was working on herself and thinking about the part she played. It takes two to tango and if ONE is passing blame and taking no Accountability in the matter than there's no need to talk. I feel like that's why Issa keeps walking away. She's had convos and reconciliation with Molly. She's the one who always apologizes. I think the dynamic is exhausting. And then...you just get over a person. I think Issa wants and needs a break from the toxic, hostility that Molly embodies as unresolved hurt. It's Molly's issue to work out in therapy. All that smoke is not for Issa. Granted, Issa is not a saint in the friendship department. Lol 😊❤😍
Are we not going to talk about the SIL (I think her name was Lydia) fetishizing Molly? It was creepy and most certainly had racial undertones.
I haven't watched Insecure since Season 1 & now follow the show thru reviews, had no idea Andrew & Lawrence were never introduced before.
No one else picked up on Andrews response when Molly mentioned she saw Issa but she wasn’t going to reach out because she’s not wrong... there’s a part of me that feels Andrew has thoughts on Molly- about her personality and behavior... I wonder if that’s going to come to a head soon.
I’m trying to see Andrew’s fault...he’s too good to be true
He really is Anna. I hope Molly sees that and does the work she needs to do to be a worthy partner. He's always pouring into her. When will it be her turn?
And those lips!
Yeah I thought something bad was going to come out in this episode like he’s perfect lol
I loved this episode.
I think molly and andrew need to take a break until she does some healing and therapy and then maybe see where it goes from there... I like that andrew holds her accountable in some aspect I don’t think he is a pushover I think he loves molly and sees that she has some good qualities about her and for now he is patient but at some point there has to be a change bc that dynamic can be very draining.. you have issues period not just issues with everyone but issues with yourself and until you deal with that all the love and support I can give you won’t even matter, if you are not willing to do the work....
Andrew is picking up where Issa left off being Molly's therapist. You're right. Now that she'll be back in therapy and will have a safe outlet to vent and express her feelings their relationship should grow. I still don't see what Molly adds to his life besides drama.
I’m just waiting for Andrew to keep it all the way real with Molly! She’s been trippin and he hasn’t said anything to her about how she’s been acting up!
Molly has had a lot of bad experiences she’s had to make those snap shot decisions. They protect her and she chose to go back to therapy. No one asked her to. She came to the decision on her own. And once she was given the perspective of Nathan you could see her mind visibly shift. If all you knew was your friend got ghosted you’d feel the way Molly did
Was it really Molly's place to ask Nathan to leave though? Also, why wasn't Issa's explanation to Molly about Nathan wasn't good enough, but coming from Andrew it was? To me, that shows how much Molly respects Issa as a "friend".
Molly thinks Issa's a screw up with bad judgement. She treats Issa like a child and Andrew like an equal because his success rivals hers. That alone makes him qualified. Molly thinks successful people have life figured out. Issa is much more together than Molly gives her credit for.
@@lifewithshawnda ...or Molly has seen Issa make (many) bad choices and so does not always trust her judgment. Andrew had nothing to gain and therefore was seen as being more objective.
I'm Molly that's healing, I was one to run. Until I met someone I really cared for. I started to do the work.
in this episode who do you think was wrong molly or issa?
Oh no Molly in some deep shit with the racism card!!!