My Amiga 1000 Macintosh Plus: It's Alive!
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- How the Macintosh emulator "A-Max" works with real Amiga and Apple hardware. I install Apple's System 6.0.8 to a partition on my Amiga’s hard drive running OS 1.3 - using a BRAND NEW driver written in March of 2022. This setup provides MAXIMUM potential and makes my Amiga 1000 look and feel like a Mac Plus!
● AmigaLove links:
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00:00 - 01:49 A-MAX OVERVIEW
01:50 - 03:45 THE A-MAX CARTRIDGE
03:46 - 04:36 THE KILLER APP
04:37 - 04:49 THE MISSING PRINTER...
04:50 - 05:33 A-MAX VIA FLOPPIES
05:34 - 06:09 LAUNCH SETTINGS
06:10 - 06:48 POOR MAN'S FLICKER FIXER
06:49 - 07:39 BOOTING YOUR "MAC"
07:40 - 08:30 RUNNING APPLE SOFTWARE VIA FLOPPIES
08:31 - 09:40 FLOPPY EMU
09:41 - 10:36 HARD DRIVE CONTROLLER CARDS
10:37 - 11:27 BRAND NEW STARDRIVE DRIVERS!
11:28 - 12:10 HARD DRIVE SETUP OVERVIEW
12:11 - 14:35 SYSTEM FRIENDLY MAC SOFTWARE RUNNING OFF THE HDD!
14:36 - 15:58 THE A-MAX HARDWARE ADVANTAGE
15:59 - 16:41 CONCLUSION/FIN
● All background music used with permission from:
The SUPREMELY talented musician Waveshaper, with permission [Sweden].
waveshaper1.bandcamp.com
Soundtrack music permission by the ULTRA bad ass SYNTH LORD: Axion, with permission [Canada].
axionsynthwave.bandcamp.com/
● 4K Abstract Tunnel VJ Motion Background
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Great video!
De-ja-vue! Just watch the 8-bit guys take on this 🤔👍🏻
@@cullmaster7361 Yeah. Mine was published the day before his. I was absolutely stunned his video was on virtually the same uber-niche topic. After working on it for several weeks, at first I simply couldn't believe it. But at the end of the day the more the merrier I suppose. Heck - I think a lot of his subscribers somehow were alerted to my video after the fact. So, yay! ;)
Macintosh user here . I have never used Amiga but remember frequently hearing how awesome it is back in the day. Thank you for the supporting inter-operability like this!
Ahh...those Scanlines on the 1080 monitor, what a memories!
I remember being able to still do some school work on my Amiga thanks to shapeshifter, but I tell you I thought Mac OS was hopeless compared to Amiga. Great to see a a1000 can even do this.
For the first half of my time in college (and most of high school before that (class of '91)) Mac Write via AMAX was the best word processor I had on my Amiga 1000. I loved this thing. I've now got an A2000, and i've modelled and 3d printed a face to mount an external mac floppy drive inside the 5 1/4" bay... (which is up on thingiverse) :D AMAX was weird and i love it!
Scott - that's INCREDIBLE! I want to see your project. Right now!!! Did you install A-Max to an old HDD back in the day? That would have been SO expensive, and the A-MAX HD partition (assuming it wasn't stand-alone) would have been super posh. Or did you run MacWrite entirely via floppies? That's probably what I would have done back then considering the cost and size constraints.
I bought Shapeshifter for my Amiga 1200 back in the mid 90’s just so I could use a browser that supported SSL for online banking which was very new at the time.
Hi Dan,
That's pretty wild! Shapeshifter is a very cool program for the later model Amigas no doubt about it. You were on the cutting edge in the mid-90s getting online with such a setup! I feel like back then I was probably on a Frankenstein PC I built myself running Netscape 2. I thought I was Johnny Neumonic or something. =D
Cool video & product. Haven’t owned an Amiga in over 3 decades but love to see these awesome early technological wonders.
I have always had a soft spot for the Amiga. When it came to games and multimedia, it blew the competition out of the water. Who can ever forget that wonderful tracker music?
The Mac had the upper hand when it came to design and desktop publishing and this bit of kit gave a lot more edge to the Amiga. It wasn't perfect, but it made the Amiga much more versatile.
Long live the Amiga. A true computer legend.
I was briefly reminded of my A-64; while it is emulation, it also has a hardware adapter to make C= 64 drives available to the Amiga through the software.
Yes indeed, Bob. And my understanding is it is extremely similar in nature by how it ports the OS to Amiga rather than pure emulation. I also have an A-64 and most games won't work at all. But for managing data and potentially running BASIC programs A-64 works. It is pretty wild hooking up a 1541 to an Amiga and hitting that drive.
Wow, 2 videos of the same theme on Amiga Love and 8bit guy, great! And wonderful video! And Viva l'Amiga!
Yeah, I published mine almost exactly 24-hours before he did. Super crazy coincidence!
It could be, thanks to his super big means, he had just unleashed his megatech cyber galactic spybots searching the internet for the next big thing upcoming in the youtube amiga world! xD xD
Don’t recall seeing AMax back in the day but definitely used shapeshifter many times.
My first MACinhack was via the Atari STFM via the monochrome SM124. It functioned so well as a Macintosh machine. My Amiga was only used as an Amiga. Also installation, before Mac System 7, was very time consuming back in the day.
Hi Magnus - sorry for my exceptionally late response. Man, I would LOVE to see your old machines and how you set them up. They sound VERY very cool indeed.
Really interesting video. I remember Amax being reviewed in Amgia Format as a kid and being really interested. I managed to get hold of a copy, but not a copy of the roms back then, so never got to try it as a kid. I think part of it was that the Mac back then was never big in the home or schools in the UK. Even in businesses outside of specialist sectors back then it did not have a significant market share.
Getting the ROMs, you probably would have had to buy them from a dealership back then. Or ordered them out of some magazine catalog. I needed a friend to teach me how to burn my own last month for this project. When I was done, I felt like I'd just performed a magic spell! It's cool we can do this now at home in our leisure.
Yes i had gotten my ROMS from Shreve Systems in 1989, one of the dealers listed in the Amax docs. I sold my AMAX a few weeks ago, one of the ROMs had gone bad so I burned an EPROM to replace it. A 27C512 EPROM is a direct swap with no re-wiring needed. I had a rig from burning pinball ROMS years ago along with a homemade eraser, and had the EPROMS from junked PC's and cards. Bit of work to set it up again but fun!
Great video - subbed! I bought an AMax cart in 1989 along with a 128K Mac ROM set for my A1000. As I was in school then, it was easy to borrow a Mac 800K external drive to get the Mac software over. I tried to get a 3rd party 800K drive to work but it wouldn't, even after installing a jumper recommended by Readysoft. It was well known that not all 3rd party drives worked. There is software-only hacked version out there. The downside with that is that you can't use the Apple 800K disk without the cart. I had fun pulling mine out of storage and getting it to work again, and I sold it just a few weeks ago. One last thing, Amax 1 does work with Kickstart 1.2 as well as 1.3.
This is some of the coolest stuff around! I remember seeing the A-Max hardware back in the day, but I could only drool as it all seemed so expensive.
You and me both! Thanks for watching.
Fantastic video! As one who only used the A500 for games and Deluxe paint, it's mindboggling what the platform was capable of. Would love to see follow-up video of Shapeshifter in action on newer hardware.
This was brilliant, thank you very much!
Thank you SO much, @sledgeFox! Your comment gives me energy. I really appreciate it and thanks for watching!
5:43 A-Max on A2024 when??? 😍😍😍
Very impressive ! And I love the way you make your video ❤️😉
Never owned a Mac before iBook with MacOS 9 (an orange one) and didn't like it 'cause I was an Amiga user and can't live without true multitasking 😁 but, watching you run it on A1000 is really awesome and people behind AMax were genius ! Thanks for your video ! ❤️
Thank you so much, Batte Man. That means a lot to me. The setup was NOT easy to do, but it's so cool now that I'm on the other side of it. It has made a crown jewel of my collection sparkle even more brightly than I thought possible!
2:52 Ackchyually... the Macintosh 128K and original 512K that had the 64K ROMs. The Macintosh 512Ke had 128K ROMs. The 512Ke was essentially a budget Mac Plus, with no SCSI port, and RAM limited to 512K.
awesome video, great explanation!
Thank you so much, Myles! I really appreciate it, and thanks for watching!!
Amiga 500 with PiStorm+Pi3a (or Pi Zero 2W)+Emu68 can easily run Shapeshifter, up to MacOS 8 and Mac 68K era Doom-type games.
Brilliant work. Much better than that other video :P
Hah! Well, jeez. Thanks for watching both! =)
What a great video. Its time I did another A1000 video :-)
Very Good video!! IDK how I've never found you before today? I was on Sarah Jane Avory Twitter about her Strikeback Chairity game for Ukraine being released. I was leaving a comment that I had bought it and from there I'm not sure how, but I ended up on your Tweet about this video and how 8 Bit Guy put out a similar video the next day. After reading so many people telling you how good you video was, I went here and watch it. This video has a very high production value, and you have a GREAT voice for doing the voice overs! I'm now your newest sub and I'm looking forward to going back in your library and watching what I'm sure will be more great content! P.S. I'm a Commodore 8 Bit lover since my Xmas 1983 C64. I now own 8 different models of their 8 Bit computes. I'm fairly new to the Amiga scene with getting my 1st Amiga, an A1200 around 3 years ago. I have 37 years of Amiga history to learn and catch up on! I have only scratched the surface these last 3 years and with your help I'm hoping to learn much more. TY
Hi Charlie - your comments are just amazing and I can’t tell you what a blast of awesomeness it is to read them. I’m based in Seattle, BTW, and started a C64/Amiga/(and any flavor) Commodore Computer Club. We meet once a month over Zoom these days (might change back to in-person again soon, I hope). Anyway, check out sea-ccc.org some time.
I, too, started my Commodore love affair with the C64. I got mine when I was in 9th grade. This would have been 1985 for me. I used that machine for years. The C64 will always be my 1st love. I also came to Amiga much later in life. My single divorced mom in the 1980s could barely afford the C64. An Amiga would have buckled her knees! It was impossible. By the time I was out of the house and on my own, Commodore was clearly doomed and on the way out. But now here I am. My C= collection is too embarrassingly long for me to list here, but I digress. This is why I created amigalove.com years ago because I became frustrated with the lack of information online for what I thought would be very common tasks. So I started to record my findings (mainly so when I needed to refer to the info again, I could find it). =)
What is your handle on Twitter? I’m @AmigaL0ve
Great! Thank you
So glad you liked it and thanks for watching!!
Amazing the days when interoperability was really used.
Infocom's 'Quarterstaff: The Tomb of Setmoth" looks great. There's surprisingly little on this game on CZcams though. I was hoping for a playthrough, being an 80's text adventure fan.
I might just have to do that at some point. It's kind of stunning this wasn't ported to other platforms. No idea why that's the case.
Hum, I don't remember the A-Max cartridge device, probably because I had an A3000 and I was only looking at Zorro Card solutions.
I just remember trying to see how many emulators I could run simultaneously, C64, C128, Atari, MS DOS, MacOS (ShapeShifter), MAME and some others.
I just managed to get shapeshifter running 8.1 on my Amiga 4000. I used Prowrite on my a500 all throughout High School and when I started college there were too many science programs on the Mac so I jumped ship shortly before commodore went bankrupt. Now I can run all my 90’s Mac software on my Amiga.
That's super cool! Are you using a special accelerator card as well? Or does it run OK on a stock machine? I've been told Shapeshifter is the way to go but is kind of a resource hog and requires a "beefy" setup.
I have an Amiga 3000 I just put an 060 in that I was pondering running Shapeshifter on... And then I could run 7.5.5 (I hope) which would be rad.
@@AmigaLove Yeah, only issue I had was with the ram, the Mac side requires quite a bit of it. My accelerator is an A3660 LC060 running at 60 Mhz and I bought a bigramplus 256 mb from Icomp (individual computers). I’m able to max out the ram on the Mac side. I setup one SD card with 7.5.5 and one with 8.1 which runs a bit slower but still very useable. I also have a cybervision 64/3D which handles the color screens. Without it it would run well at 16 colors, or grey scale, using the AGA 256 would slow the system a bit.
@@bliskin8847 Very sweet setup. My "monster" A3000 also has the BigRAM card. And I run with a zz9000 RTG card on P96, although I lucked out with a Cybervision card this year (for around $200 because the title was misspelled!) that I've yet to play with. It sounds like I could spin up a 2nd SCSI2SD for a Mac partition to keep the rest of the machine 'pristine'. It would be pretty cool to fire up Photoshop 4 on my A3000! :) I also have an Emplant card - the advantage there being I could use actual Apple ports. Another dream of mine was to some day sync my Newton on my Amiga. It's ridiculous, but it's there! :D
@@AmigaLove lol, a newton in the Amiga would be awesome, good Luck 😃👍. Oh, I have a Buddha ide, so I have a compact flash to ide in the extra floppy bay and as an expansion card out the back. So I just swap out the SD card with the various Mac operating systems. The Amiga4000 HD drive can read Mac HD floppies on the Mac side, and the CDRom also works. You shouldn’t have any problems with the ZZ graphics card, have fun.
You sound like a professional audiobook narrator. In fact you sound just like the narrator in the Steve Jobs biography audiobook!
Too cool.
Super like!
Thank you! Cheers!
Excellent video - I now desperately want an A-Max for my own 1000 (and come to that, the MicroBotics StarBoard too!)
The StarDrive R2 is probably obtainable. The StarBoards are a bit harder. They show up a few times per year... The A-Max has *also* been reverse engineered by Crispy, but he did it for his own personal use - not to build and sell. (But there's always a chance!) ;) Thanks for watching, RT
@@AmigaLove There is a demand for the Amax 1 in 2022! I listed my Amax V1 on Amibay and had 3 people wanting to buy it the same day. Also there's current WANTED posts for it. The Amax iv card is much harder to come by and expensive.
@@trs80model14 I have the A-Max zorro card. My dream is to install it in my A3000, install system 7 and sync my Apple Newton 2100 to the Amiga. =)
That was outstanding..! I think I have everything already in stock to give this a go! Setup looks a little as you say “brain surgery”.. I’m not worthy Amigalove!
Mike - you have an A-Max? Holy smoke! I have to warn you the setup is pretty daunting for use Rejuve people. However, if you use a SCSI2SD card (5.5) with your StarDrive AND get a 1GB card, I could try to see if we could clone my SD card and you just run with it. Otherwise, you'd want to use a non-Rejuve A1K and use Crispy's amazing tool that creates your mountlist file - on the fly! Lots to discuss here, but it's super wild to see in use in person. Do you have an Apple 3.5 Drive, too? You kinda want/need "all the things."
@@AmigaLove I have to “audit” my inventory Eric but I do in fact think I have almost everything.. I have Apple floppy drives from that IIGS and non working LCII if you recall I acquired. I have the AMAX cart and SW in box (not sure versions) and I even think I have Mac OS 6.xxx or something disks that came with that LCII… I DON’T have the external SCSI2SD (I should get one).. That said when I watched the video the first thing that I thought of was if I could make a dedicated “Apple” Hard drive with 100mb Zip disk? Maybe not big enough.. This would be totally fun project
@@michaelwallen738 The fact that you have some Macintosh computers on the side is actually going to be pretty helpful. When I got all of my A-Max stuff I got software for 1.0 and 2.0. The fact is, 2.56 is actually the best and it'll work on OS 1.3 just fine. The 1.0 and 2.0 screens (which I didn't show, and should have) look REALLY cool and are totally different. 2.56 is just better under the hood and really the way to go - especially if you go the HDD route.
I'd recommend just experimenting with the floppy setup first to get your bearings. Note: making your System 6.0.8 disks the A-Max format (which will require the external Apple floppy drive) is THE way to go. You can load System 6.0.8 off the Apple Drive, but after that most of your software you try and load will crash, making that pretty useless. BUT! You can also use those system disks later when you install the OS to your partition. So you've got a lot of great options there.
Mega!
I wish I could try this on my Frankenstein-A500 with its ACA500plus.
Ah, yeah. The ACA500 would need a driver written for it, which I would not expect in this lifetime. LOL! But, hey, stranger things have happened. Thanks for watching, Leofred.
Two words: Microsoft Word (5). In Med School Microsoft Word on Mac was stellar. We did not make progress ; what we have nowadays is true regression. Pages brings some relief, but Word 5 on Mac is the grand touring for textwarriors.
I have to agree. I feel like in Pages a lot of times the menus are a little like a scavenger hunt. But overall it's as close to ClarisWorks as we can get. And Claris, in my mind, was THE Mac equivalent of Microsoft's offerings back in the day: beautiful, clean and not bloated. MS Word 5 really is a remarkable high-water mark, as you said.
Thanks for watching, Raymond.
Your video’s are next level Eric. Wel researched, informative, entertaining, historically and culturally relevant and with just the right length and technique. A very distinctive style; Italians call it sprezzatura ( clothing ): the art of nonchalant elegance ( but that takes a lot of time and preparation ). Thanks.
@@raymondmookhram5127 My goodness. You've kind of blown me away. Thank you!
Ah, a fellow class of 89’er.
Heck yeah! I have photos of my single left-ear earring and big wave hair hanging down in my face (with hair shaved on the sides) to prove it. ;)
I only remember using Shapeshifter on my A1200.
A-Max - the contraption I'm using - came out years before the A1200 was born. As I stated later on in the video, if folks had a more modern/powerful Amiga Shapeshifter is very likely the better way to go especially if you had an accelerator. But on A1K's, especially those running OS 1.3, A-Max is the only way to go. (And it is awesome!)
Thanks so much for watching.
also remember, computers of the 80s and 90s typically had a hobillion wires behind them for all of the external peripherals. that's mostly what the extra space was for. either that, or you had a disgusting, dusty mess of wires on the floor.
I can't help but think that there must have been a better place to mount the interfacing port on the "cartridge". After you opened up the device, it looks like the connectors could be mounted in several places to avoid having the long-edge sticking out from the back of the computer. Of course, this is 30+ years in hindsight -- who knows what the production costs and use-cases were then, all of which can be mitigated with a cable!
Yeah, even if back then they were limited to a fairly long device it would have been nice if the pass-through was at least on the SIDE and not the very back. Adding an external Amiga floppy makes things pretty ridiculous. If I could find an simply 12" extension cable (rather than a 3" or 6" thing) that would certainly help things, too.
@@AmigaLove They did offer an optional extender cable for sale.
1:52 - what is that addon plugged into the A1000? I think I had one.
Maybe not. It looks like the ram expansion and battery backed up clock I had. The scsi card I had for my A1000 was the GVP.
@@ShaneBro I think you're referring to the Microbotics Starboard. Mine has a StarDrive R2 SCSI module, as well as an additional 1MB of Fast (which I installed *after* the video), so it's up to 1.5MB + the 1MB chip and the 256K front expansion. The Starboard/StarDrive a VERY cool device, which I've also made a few videos about.
@@AmigaLove maybe that what I had. Geez, been too long. I will look them up.
most modern LCD TVs will do deinterlacing on the composite input. I plug my a500 composite output into my LCD TV and it looks great, and the a500 output is only monochrome. I'd try my a1000 but unfortunately it no longer boots.
Thanks for the info!
Curious. Could you test if any of the Magnetic Scrolls games work?
Like which one in particular?
@@AmigaLove Jinxter and Corruption would be nice.
I'm not sure Wonderland ever came out on Macintosh. Mobygames says no, so I guess I remember that one wrong.
I dont want to know how much the Amax module runs these days do I?
Well, now that I made a video about it it probably doesn't help. :S That being said, I got mine - unpopulated - for a staggering $250. But it's WAY cheaper than an old black and white Mac that might not even have a working screen anymore. That's one way to look at it anyway. My A-Max II+ zorro II card cost me $300. It's a hefty fee for entry, no doubt about it.
Fun fact: My friend has reverse engineered the original A-Max, but never produced any as he wasn't sure there was a market...
@@AmigaLove i shouldn't mention my Plus was effectively free then? Or my ibook one of the later not cute ones that looks like a tooth? My iisi wasn't too bad though. Like 150 ish albeit with a black n white monitor whose case cracked in shipping? But.. depending on how much that dude charges for a replica Amax? Id at least think about it.
@@CaptainRufus "i shouldn't mention my Plus was effectively free then?" Hah! No, no you definitely shouldn't mention that. ;)
I saw several Amax 1's sell for under $100, the Amax IV card selling closer to 675-700. There is a high demand.
Why all the hazzel using A-max? Why not just use Shapeshifter and be done with it?
Because this is an Amiga 1000 running OS 1.3. Shapeshifter needs more CPU and later OSes.
Shapeshifter requires 68EC020 CPU. Amiga 1000 can be enhanced with PiStorm-Emu68 and AmigaOS 3.2.
It's hard to imagine finding something else more ridiculous and silly than running a Mac emulator on an Amiga 1000 in 2022.
Very cool. It’s a huge shame that Amiga users were such rabid fanboys.