The Creative Endeavour - EPISODE 1- Cesar Santos
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- Welcome to the Creative Endeavour Podcast - Bringing you stories and success strategies from creative professionals from around the world!
In this Episode Andrew Tischler talks with Cesar Santos, and gets an insight into his creative practice and artistic philosophy.
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Was so much fun talking to you Andrew! Can't wait to hear you talk to other artists in this series. Cheers!
Thanks man! I really appreciate you coming on the podcast! You're an inspiration mate. Hopefully we can do this again sometime. :)
Cesar Santos remember me, !! I send you a drawing about a girl with a flower on her hair and u made it into a painting!!! u replied to my email saying " increase your wealth by investing in things that bring value , as an immigrant this country is kind to those who work hard". I was honestly homeless at the time and i was so happy u responded and actually saw my artwork🙂🙂
And it was a real pleasure listening to you guys. One of the things that really made me think was your comment on "nobody is really self-taught"... because I always tell other people that I am self-teaching myself, because I can´t afford going to art-school, when actually I´m learning so so much from guys like you, Andrew, Mark Carder with his amazing information that he provides on drawmixpaint, and many many others... Well, thank you for sharing your views and your knowledge and thanks for making me a bit more aware of my own role in this whole thing.
My two favorite CZcamsr artist...💓💓
WOW! Thank you Andrew for raising such pertinent and important topics for artists, and thank you Cesar for your fantastic insights and opinions. Very inspiring conversation. I know this is your first podcast Andrew, you did it brilliantly!!
“It’s not about originality, it’s about authenticity” - Andrew beautifully put!!! I’m keeping that one
It’s not about originality, it’s about authenticity” - Art should be for the people- Embrance what is valuable- these are the most important sentences :) God bless you all! Greetings from Hungary
These two individuals are, in my humble opinion, masters in the fine art world today - although, slightly different styles. And, it is a sign of a true master when one is not afraid to express/share their feelings towards their fellow artists. I can't say who is better but what I can say is: their works are very inspiring! I am just learning from these two (and others) to help me define my own and unique style. THANK YOU.
Cesar has a remarkable world view. Tremendous drive and insight. His recognition of history, respect for craftsmanship and appreciation of the modern aesthetic is unique. Quite an amazing opportunity for someone like me to learn from someone of that caliber through videos and the modern conduits. Imagine being able to learn from the old masters in this way. What an age we live in
Hello Andrew. It is me again, I just wanted to tell you that after I watched this video a few times I realized that you and Cesar had taught me many new things. Not only about art and painting, but about life things too. I was listening to this video while I was painting and all my fears that I had ( like " I can't do this, it is too hard" ) disappeared and they also inspired me very much. Thank you again and I hope that you'll read this coment.
Never thought I would see this, my both amazing artists (teachers) doing something together. I'm simply amazed and grateful
Two great minds together that happen to be two of my favorite artists on podcast. Keep up the great work guys!
I watch both Tischler and Santos' CZcams channels religiously. Pleasantly surprised to see/listen to this podcast.
I recomend watching too, hahaha the youtube artists trinity. we're lucky they post so much content free.
@@Legotron me too!! l have learned A LOT from both, I have a whole new better approach for my ammature oil painting, from gleaming off of their expertise and great advice, sharing, phenom artists!
You are two of my favorite contemporary artists! I loved your story, Andrew, of the boy in Africa who used wood and charcoal. I am from Canada, but am going to teach art in a school in Niger for 5 years. Watching your and Cesar's videos give me inspiration for teaching and painting. Thank you and God bless!!
Thank you both. I feel like I have spoken to two Master Painters of today. I have spent time looking at the work of old masters but here you both are. In the flesh. Wonderful. Xx
Oh my goodness! What a treat. Two great contemporary realist artists sharing so much - so inspiring, and I love the Jordan Peterson connection as well. You guys are amazing. Finally we are able to say we are not impressed with post-modernism and not get booed and berated.
How more helpful can this be for a moroccan artist trying to get started and being rejected by galleries! Thank you SO much for this refreshing video! Love from Morocco!
Awesome, you and cesar are the best artists on CZcams hands down
Andrew, I was so excited to see that you picked Cesar Santos for your first podcast as you both are 2 of my favorite artists to watch on you tube. I have learned so much from both of you. Thank you for all you share with us.
Listening to two practicing and honest professionals is more valuable than any paid art class. Can't express in words, just thanks for what you are doing and keep it up!!
You two are amazing artists, and awesome men. Loved the interview. I'm a Cuban born artist raised in the USA, and can related to things that Cesar said. Thank you so much for the opportunity to know more about you both. Gracias!
Over the years as a musician, either teaching or working on new things, I figured out that if we pay attention, we learn at least as much from ourselves as we do from anyone else. That's one reason teaching is good, it forces us to analyze our working methods, our technique, and "Oh, THAT'S why I do things that way...." some natural thing that any painter or musician does. In music, you have to slow it down to teach others. In doing this we either validate our methods, or correct mistakes we didn't even know we were committing. And in music, sometimes overthinking is the enemy. The whole thing is learning to let it flow, let it blast out of us, a more unfettered freedom because we've mastered these different aspects. Not that anyone ever really masters it all. Having said that, if you don't make mistakes in life or work, you aren't stretching enough.
2 of my favourite artists in 1 long video! Pure joy!
Whoa. I ALSO was scrolling Instagram and came across the Peterson painting WHILE listening to 12 Rules for Life. It was surreal. How funny that you had the same experience, Andrew! I agree that Peterson’s core message is so valuable and I don’t care much about the politics- he’s not a political figure he’s a psych professor! And I went to school for psychology. Anyway, I applaud your bravery for getting into something controversial right out the gate- you might get some hate for it but to me it shows that you two are genuine and not just sycophants to your followers.
We love what we love right? Thanks for the comment! :)
Thanks so much Andrew and Cesar! I'm a contemporary visual arts PhD Student in Australia and often find the focus on networking and other expectations from academic staff, like research article submissions to A+ journals, take up the time I'd spend creating and learning to hone my new profession via increasing my technical skills (not just discussing philosophies or the skills of other artists in relation to my own art practice). These expectations from supervisors are often in-part a requirement of the pursuit of a PhD, proving your worth to the institution as a contributing academic, and are more important than the art that comes out of it. As I think about it, I think that it is an inherent reflection of Western Society and perhaps even a symptom of middle-lower class challenges in getting an education. Especially for those in pursuit of a meaningful profession as part of living a valuable meaningful life. I often think of postponing the PhD and just working more. Such a complicated topic! Great discussion, it is great to get new perspectives. Can't wait to see more.
Both have true genius, zest for life & art and are fantastic teachers and role models.
I can not express how awesome this was! My favorite two Artists, escape from Communism, Jordan Peterson references, snootiness in the Art world (LOL), goal setting, positivity, entrepreneurship, free market, freedom, ART (of course), and so much more! You guys are the absolute coolest.
Thanks so much for the feedback!
"Where did that idea come from?" Such a simple but amazing question to ask Andrew! When these ideas hit us, they are both puzzling and humbling at the same time. A truly creative Idea has this power to not just steer our actions in that moment, but the power to steer our lives! And where do they come from, huh?! Thank you for your dialogue about 'authentic' vs 'original' - all so true! :)
Here’s another coincidence for me personally, I’m a kiwi, born in Christchurch, I’ve followed both yourself and Cesar in particular of all the artists on line. When I saw your painting of the Milford Sound, obviously I recognised it straight away, and it was so stunning it made my jaw drop, as I’ve been to those places on the West Coast of the South Island and nothing I’ve seen in terms of photographs and paintings has ever approached what you managed to achieve in representing what it’s like to actually be there. I’ve been struggling with completing a portrait of my partner and Cesars work and words has been so inspirational, and I’m a psychologist and a big fan of Jordan Peterson too. What you guys achieve in art in cutting through the BS, that is so prevalent in art, I see parallels In what Jordan’s saying in terms of the damage some of the “wokeness” is doing to society as a whole and particularly in the University’s at the moment. Thank you
Gerard, psychologist and Ilam Art school drop out.
Thank you for the great podcast! Two of my favorite artists I follow. Even though you mentioned young artists I am a young artist in that I started painting in my 50's. I follow you and several other artists on UTube and the one thing in common is that you all paint beautiful paintings like the masters. Actually you are Masters. I am having my first solo show next month and am very nervous. Just a small local show but a big deal to me. I never painted or did anything artistic in my youth so it feels strange to call myself an artist as a former accountant!!
That is so true what Andrew said regarding this creativity we have, comes from the Creator! His signature is everywhere! As Job 38:4-5 the Word of the Lord tells us, "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare it if you have understanding?' The very breath in our bodies belongs to the LORD and He can take it back whenever He wants. He is beyond & bigger then the planets, and the sun and all else, and so small that IF you respond to His Voice comes to abided in your heart.
Love both of these very experience Artists and their honesty; God bless you both!
When Cesar made the comment on Peterson's comment, 'Fix your room," I remember this doctor friend, that when I walk into his immaculate office in his home, everything was in its place & super clean! I comment on his clean place and he took me to the back office where he really worked at. It was piled with so much paperwork and so messy!. He pointed to the open space that was immaculate and said, 'This is of a working mind!' And then pointed to his messy desk and said, " This is of a Genius!' We laughed about this!
I enjoyed all your videos. Heard a quote, 'different strokes for different folks' and 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder!' So as Artists they are all different and that is what makes you all sooo unique!~ Well, most Artists..
I finished watching and I gotta say: I love both your CZcams channels and it's so much fun to watch 2 of my favorite artists have a meaningful conversation about different aspects of being an artist. Great idea!
Keeping balanced in all areas of life and thinking is tough, I believe even more so for artists. Cesar has the ability to observe and implement/practice/make a part of his life all types of aspects that create his balance...such amazing paintings too. Never stop learning! I'm 56 and loving to learn, even & especially from younger, wiser folks. Thanks Andrew!!
With near 6 decades brush in hand before canvas I contiinue to learn, so @ 36: min. in the conversation with Carlos I truly appreciated your comment about "those' artists who hold the high card of Master painter. In my experiences I've met & known several who intimidated & tossed me into doubts about my own ability...all the how to do & not to do's, what to paint, etc. This created such confusion, discouragement, worst of all suppression in my attempts to be original, authentically & my own compass. It is only now, having given up what others consider good, great & salable that I'm able to break those chains freeing my spirit to soar in work...as Cesar commented about being connected to. Once the top selling artist for corporate galleries, I'm now retired in Mexico, not selling but painting my own masterpieces I find a home in. I think it's giving up caring what others think that one embraces the courage to safely want; for me this means refinement, excellence & truth.
This whole conversation with Cesar, I found so valuable, especially for one younger in search of their promise before critics & so-called experts put braces on their imagination & brains. Thanks for this. I'm in total agreement with both of your insights.
You couldn't start your podcast better than this. My favourite two artists! keep it up
So many points Cesar made reflected my own experiences and thoughts.
One of the things you both hit on about us "not even knowing what we're up to, because that's art," resonated with me and followed the idea that I had once, when I was destitute and homeless, sleeping on the street, everyone who saw me wanted to know why I was there. "What are your goals?" "What are you going to do ?" "Do you have a plan?"
I didn't know! Things snowballed and I had no idea why I was there and what I would do to get out of it. When I though of the possible answers, I told myself, "If I don't know what I'm doing, neither do my enemies." And that...sounded right. It made sense to me. It was like what I read on a friend's Facebook wall..."God, why are you taking me through troubled waters? and He replied, "Because your enemies can't swim."
And, Cesar, I appreciated the points about doing the most expedient things for the moment, at that moment. If you are hungry, eat. If you need to pay rent, make the money. If you are sick, get help...so you can then continue to make the art that you love. To that, I say", I will try. I will do my best!"
It was a pleasure to listen to the podcast. Thank you for hosting such an interesting and uplifting discussion!
Cesar has a tremendous amount of knowledge to convey. Highly recommend his videos if you can afford them. They are well worth the money.
Love that Andrew kept the technical difficulties in . Cesar would struggle without Valentina behind every great man is a great woman.
I heard the late great Terrence Mckenna talk recently, who originally trained as an art historian, and was reminded of it by your discussion of the two seemingly opposing movements within art, which could be described as 'originality' and 'traditionalism', and he described two fundamental behaviours of Nature as being novelty, and the conservation of that novelty. When Cesar spoke about how what is claimed to be originality is not really, but rather a very defined adherence to that which is already established, it strikes me that it unknowingly embodies both these traits, of both novelty, but also of conservation of that novelty, which then becomes traditionalism. This trend is very obvious in the political movements of today also, those that used to be anti-establishment are now very much pro establishment. It strikes me that these tendencies that we see across various domains point to something deep within the nature of Nature itself, a tension between both novelty and the conservation of that novelty, usually seen as conflicting rather than complementary.
The point made here about authenticity was a great one.
Thoughtful people, thoughful conversation, very interesting to hear.
This is great, Andrew. Cesar Santos is one of my favorite!
Guys,
Just watched the best interview ever. My two favourite CZcams artists talking together about their journey, their experiences and inspirations. I am a forty two year old Scottish truck driver who is studying an Art degree through distance learning in order to change career, I have always drawn as a hobby and have now decided to use this talent to make a living and I owe you guys so much because your channels have tutored me and made me develop as an artist as I identify so much with what you are saying. I naturally steer towards a representative or realistic approach to my painting and I am marked down for playing safe and not experimenting with a loose or abstract style, but I am being true to what drives me as a person in my art. Your insights into the exhibiting and working with galleries was truly helpful and I always admire your truth and transparency with sharing your knowledge - Cesar, I did buy your portrait painting DVD and it is easily the best investment in my art to date, where else could a learner gain so much wisdom from a master craftsman at such a low price? I will continue to follow both your channels and keep up the content, it truly is inspirational.
Neil
Thanks so much for the comment Neil! I hear you mate, and I have had a similar experience to you with my schooling. Remember that it starts from where you stand, when you authentically express yourself and put in the work. People that hold the power and definitions will loose out in the end, because there you will be, connecting with people!
Love Cesar! You both are my favourite artists on CZcams and I look up to you as my role models as I'm starting out in my career. Thank you Andrew for beginning these interviews. I'm excited to watch them all.
You are both amazing .Thank you for sharing.
Oh my God, so grateful to see this conversation. I have a whole story of the same. It has taken me 50 years to try to rediscover the techniques and methods that permit my imagery to be expressed!!! I am so damned thankful to see this!! I will share it to my friends who also have love of nature, authenticity, representational focus which reveres light, observation, entrancement within the subject!!! I love this, THANK YOU!!!
Loved your podcast and so glad you brought up the art school “mold” in how artists should be and think in order to be considered intellectual and worthy as an artist. It’s so true! I suffered through the BFA and MFA - struggling against that same mold. It strangled the “fun” about the making process of art for me. I am finally getting back into my own style of painting and enjoying art again- 11 years of healing later...
my two favorite oil painters on youtube. you guys are the reason why I've just started dabbling in oil painting recently.
great podcast, and thanks for the overall excellent ongoing content
I went to Cesar Santos CZcams channel as well and watched his plein air episode. Very good. You are both on a whole other level. You both have a knack as well for being in front of a camera (not an easy thing to do) Also that applies to painting as well for you both. As Edgar Degas said: “Painting is easy when you don't know how, but very difficult when you do.”
I'm so happy you're a JBP fan! I found him a while back and he always has something valuable to say.
Great episode!
Couldn't have picked a better person to launch a podcast. Cesar is an absolute genius. Thank you for this incredible content. Continued blessings to both!
Remarkable interview. Never seen this CZcams channel and now I’ll never miss an upload. The interviewer is great. I find that the toughest people or people with “bad attitudes” often have the biggest hearts.
Am watching this again, after 6-8 months and find it just as exciting as the first from 2 of my favorite artists. Am excited to begin again at 76 and and accepting that I do make descent pairings and will create now without negative criticism of me! I love Jordan Peterson and learning from others on CZcams etc. Jordan Peterson has a new book. God bless both of you. Thanks for your inspiration during this Covid! I feel like I’m there in the midst of your conversation! Can you see my smile?😂
I love your honest down to earth conversation...you can feel how he overcame his humble beginning to excel in his passion which is painting....you are both passionate about your skill and that shows your dedication to your vocation
Awesome interview. Two of my favorite artists exchanging ideas, this has been such a stellar watch for me, I am going to watch it again. Thank you so very much.
This was great! It is really great to see artists who are open about their techniques and ideas come together to share with us. I am glad I am able to explore art in the age of the internet. Having access to such a wide variety of perspectives has really helped me to become a more well rounded artist and person overall, in both my technique and philosophy. It is crazy, I found Andrew's channel as it was recommended after I started watching Caesar's channel, then here we are full circle. All Andrew needs to do now is add an interview with Proko or Draw Mix Paint and my year would be met. Thank you for your hard work Andrew!
This is so great Andrew! Very happy that you've started this, I can't begin to tell you how very helpful such a discussion is to someone who is looking to learn more about art. Keep up the great work! It's awesome.
YESSSSS! Two of my favorite artists!! Thank you so much for this!
I finally finished watching this and i enjoyed every single moment of it,thank you both for taking the time to share so many valuable ideas.
Finally, I am getting around to watching two of my favourite artists in one video! :-) It was wonderful to listen to you guys. You are both so inspiring! :-)
I love watching two of my favorite living artist converse. You guys rock.
Cesar has a tremendous business acumen as well. This is extremely rare in the general population, maybe more so in the art world.
This is great! Would love to watch more of these series!
I can't believe i can see you talking to each other! I follow both of you and love you both in different ways. It was great to listen to you!!! Thank you guys!!!!
Wow two of my favourite artists in one video. What a treat. Thank you andrew!!!!
I'm so glad I've found your channels. Even 2 years later than I could!
Great initiative! Thanks for sharing the frank talk and experience of two great artists. Not only interesting but also inspiring. I do follow both your videos and have learnt a lot. Thanks for Caesar Santo's secret of portrait painting lessons. This method works out for me and have taken my painting to the next level. Way to go! Thanks both of you.
My two favorite artists. Good interview and brilliant Idea. Cesar is god gifted artist and great person but I always wanted him talk little bit on point. He has a lot idea to deliver but usually I get lost in his talk. Thank you Andrew!
This video was truly awesome! I listened to it several times and shared portions with my high school art students! You guys are doing great work. Absolutely inspirational!
Just finished this awesome podcast, watching a combined 30+ year of experience from 2 extremely talented artists and what a wealth of insight, that you will not get anywhere else, amazing, loved it! Thank you!
Thank you, Andrew, for building & sharing this podcast! I'm finding an incredible amount of inspiration in your work, your youtube videos... and now this, a massive convergence of philosophy, spiritualism, nuts&bolts advice, insights & highlights...All I can say is: Thank you! I only hope I have enough years left in me to let me try the things you've inspired within myself. Sincerely, again, thank you.
My two greatest teachers exchanging wisdom.Love the podcast !
great video Andrew, my two favourite teachers in one go, brilliant and informative .
Thank you so much for this podcast. It came just at the right time for me. I am just about to take a serious leap and finally create my own art. Although I have been an animator for 30 years, I lacked the courage to strike out on my own. Seeing this podcast and seeing two very talented artists talk and be so real and down to earth gives me confidence that I will find my place. Thank you both for being real.
This is my introduction to Caesar Santos and this interview is life enriching! Thank you to both of you.
Thank you gentlemen for a superb podcast. I was introduced to Jordan Peterson by my 19 year old son (CZcamsr of note) and my worlds have just collided! 50+ and still learning. I wish you both much success.
So thankful to hear my thoughts or feelings on certain subjects are on point with real talent.
I feel as if I just came alive...woke up! I am not alone. In my small world, it is challenging to find and speak with those who are not afraid to go deeper in their thought life, artistic/creative life and not live on just the surface! Life is sooo rich! I enjoyed, tremendously, watching and listening to this conversation! Thank you so much to both of you!
Thanks Ludmila! I appreciate the comment!
Love hearing you both talk about art and how to make a living doing what you love!! Pure Gold guys!!!
You both are great inspiration for me. I don't have time to draw or paint, but as soon as possible I'll do it again. For now, I just am delighted watching your videos.
This is the best conversation on art my art is built totally on inspiration to take no thought ....and im very thankful for it...i love the fact that 2 ppl creating conflict amongst us artist....for me art is discovering what im capable of...i need to feel a connection between me and what ever the subject maybe...thank you for this podcast
Cesar is such a humble guy! He is living the true American dream! Very impressive!
You are both great artists The art of both of you are incredible and very amazing and impressive. Both of you are great
It's not about originality but about authenticity ... you rocked with that sentence Andrew ... thank you for being yourself ... greetings from Belgium
What an exciting way to kickoff your new podcast! So glad you connected with Cesar Santos. Thoroughly enjoyed listening to two of my favorite artists discuss the ins and outs of being a creative professional. I'm learning so much from the content both of you put up on CZcams. Both you and Cesar seem so open and approachable. I think I told you before, Andrew, that I hope this is just the beginning of a long friendship and many collaborative opportunities for the two of you!
I, too, am looking forward to hearing future interviews with other artists in upcoming podcast episodes (hope Stan Proko is on your list, too). Your enthusiasm is apparent and it's inspiring! Thank you so much for sharing your life and your art with us!!!
Great questions, Andrew! And Cesar willingly opened up! I could relate so much to both of what you shared! Wow! Wow! You both could not have made it any better. I was lifted up!! :) Your authenticity came through loud and clear.
Omg!!!!!! Love both of you guys!!!!!!
THEEE BEST
Great video guys, inspirational, informative, interesting, and keeps me motivated...all the stuff I associate with you both! Thanks so much.
my two favorite artists,thanks for the inspiration
Two contemporary greats!
I am finally seeing this (almost a year later) and it was so entertaining! Better late than never! LOL! I have Cesar's videos ,but listening to him talk to you really get where he is coming from. I watch all your UTube things when I am not painting . Thanks !
I'm so happy this was your first episode as I fallow both of your work. I learn a tremendous amount from you guys. Good luck with the podcast! looking forward to more episodes!
What a great podcast ! Other than the fact that this subject is such an important and constant challenge for both beginners and professionals, you two are sensational together !!! Love you guys . You two are such an inspiration for all of us.
Hi Andrew, thanks for a very inspiring show, I am a retired beginner and thinking of putting out my artwork on my youtube channel, I am autistic with aspergers and can sing dance draw and paint, and I design and knit all my own knitwear. So I am very creative, but I struggle with the business and commercial aspects of turning my hobbies into a business. Your podcasts with your guests has encouraged me to go ahead and create content and just do it rather than waiting till I can draw or paint much better. thanks Lady Rosie.
Andrew this is awesome! Two of my favorite Artis! Very exited for more episodes!
Two of the greatest artists in the same utube- what a treat !!!
This was amazing! Two amazingly inspiring artists sharing ideas. What more can one ask for!
I am actually painting and listening to this podcast...and i agree with so many things being discussed here.
Yay!!!! My two fav artists
Lot of drive and capability in this podcast. Two of my favorite artists.
You have both inspired me so much to go back to drawing after years of being insecure about my skills ~ thank you!
I am a professional artist but in advertising. When I was a young girl I painted and sold paintings, now after many years, I am painting again. You both are awesome. Great video.
Hi. I am very grateful to see you both talking about your passion, sharing experience and ideas and a very great advice to apply for future artists. I'm from Philippines, and these two great men are always been my virtual mentor and not to mention that its free tho. And I'm so happy and was amazed of this chance to see you in this episode. The world needs art. Art is love, a medicine every soul; and energy that we must not resist to accept. Art is living; art is you. It's us.
Lots of love to the two of my favorite artists on youtube. 😘😘
Love JP. And I deeply admire you both as great artists.
An Essential Listen! The best discussion I’ve heard yet regarding art and life according to art and living. This could become a tour de force in the new movement of education in the arts on CZcams.
Thank you Andrew for introducing me to Cesar Santos. Brilliant to watch and listen and learn from both of you amazing artists!
Thank you both for this inspiring video. I have followed you separately, but to have you both together has been great.
I am 80 by the way and first picked up a paint brush only a few years ago.
Good luck and health to you.