Thank you, Andrew, for having Michelle as a guest. I painted with her in South Africa on her first trip. I was stunned the opportunity was available to a beginner painter, as I have admired her work, as well as Ricahrd's, for years but never dreamed I would work with one of them in person, and certainly not in such a magical, intense and unique area of the world. I had not traveled nor even flown since my 24 year old was born, so this trip was life changing on many levels, but I simply had to take the opportunity, even more urgently as Richard had recently passed and I'm not getting any younger. What I learned from her words and watching her paint, sharing her thought process, and providing her input on your work in the moment, will inform my work for as long as I can lift a brush. Her appreciation of the natural world and respect for the models was beyond inspiring. Again, Andrew, I so appreciate your offerings and your selfless sharing and insights.
Robin , it was so lovely to get to know you and go on safari together in Africa ! It was such an incredible trip experiencing the wonders of Africa as a group and all of us painting together, cuddling elephants, and taking in those magnificent sunsets. Your words touch my heart deeply and reaffirm the very reason I take time to teach and love to do so ...I wish you much inspiration in your painting and hope to see you again in the near future! When Andrew and I do part 2 as he suggested I plan to share many of the paintings and drawings I am currently creating from Africa : )
I'm standing here now and painting, and I'm struggling, overwhelmed by the thought that people are going to see it and that it's not good enough. Then I hear that I shouldn’t be thinking about what others will say, and I need to connect with myself. Tears well up in my eyes, yes, because that’s why I paint - because I love it. My paintings might end up pleasing some people, but I can’t paint with that intention. Thank you Andrew and Michelle, I’m having the most wonderful painting session while listening to your conversation xxx
Originally I was going to say this interview had so many golden nuggets but listening through the end, it was actually priceless. This was the first time I listened to an interview with Michelle. Just fantastic! Thank you.
So many parallels. Amen to the transparency of faith. The soul has much to do with creativity, whether a person realizes it or not. This fact is why AI will never dominate us as artists. I feel one might use it as a tool but not as a substitute for our vision and output.
Every time I hear Michelle speak I am just lit with a fire and paint immediately! Thank you (a million times) for doing this podcast and having such great people speak their hearts. I am so inspired everytime ❤
Thank you so much ! We all need to have our fire re-lit by each other . It's one of the things I love about technology that it does make the world able to connect more easily so we can inspire one another to create.
I really enjoyed this discussion with Michelle and her love for life and painting. I liked her outlook on giving rather than getting and how to better serve or inspire with what talents we have. Thank you for another great discussion.
I am convinced that your creative work if art when put A.I. challenge will supercede all creative real human emotions with it's complimentary brush strokes that can not be duplicated!!!❤❤❤❤
Fabulous lessons for life, thank you for this interview 🙏 I could listen to her more. There is always something new and positive to learn. Thank you Andrew. ❤
Thank you, Andrew and Michelle! An inspiring interview with two great artists who are great encouragers! A line in there from one of Michelle’s stories, “Don’t deprive people the blessing of seeing your work.”
Well, I really enjoyed this podcast Andrew! So inspiring and so many profound thoughts, quotes and tips - I'm definitely going to write these down! Did some sketching whle listening of Michelle too. Now to look up her work.... 😀
When Michelle talked about creativity and children, I was reminded of helping an art teacher in middle school. The kids thought if their sketches weren’t “perfect” they were no good. I told them that they were the artist and if they followed the outline of the assignment, and were happy with their finished art, it was perfect! What a change! They had fun and opened up to trying harder.
I'm so pleased Michelle followed her childhood instincts and became a character artist. She has a natural fascination with people and their expressions. Thanks, Andrew, for this brilliant interview.
I here people say that all the time!!! “Oh m not creative…or an artist…” I always comeback with just what Michelle said! Almost word for word! I have been a professional artist since age 14 and now 57…and when I could not create for sales…i was creating From curiosity…people even comment I am like a little kid lol…i take that with honor…
I feel sorry for anyone who missed this interview. Andrew, you are my favourite interviewer. You don't interrupt all the time, you draw out the best thoughts, you disarm and calm and charm, and your own input is so insightful, intelligent and yet humble. This lady was a gem of a guest.
I attended a worshop called "Weekend With the Masters",( that must be around 10 or 12 years ago) and there was this portrait painting demostration by Daniel Gerhartz and an other Master (I can´t recall who was it) and the model was Michelle Dunaway! I was so impressed the way they went about it, but I was also very much impressed by the way Daniel capture Michelle inner beauty. Her face stuck in my mind for so many years, and now there she is in one of your videos. I realized immediatly It was her! I did not know her name, nor that she was an artist and such a good painter, for me she was a beautiful woman posing for the demostration, but Daniel grasped what se´s describing as capturing her soul. Andrew This is my first time watching your channel and I will absolutly subcribe to it as well as to Michelle´s, who is no longer an unforgettable face. Thank you both for being. ((Bear with me, english is not my first language
Michelle has always inspired me, Richard and Nancy and Tisch are a fine example of art filled hearts. Every brush stroke in cloud software like Photoshop are feeding the ai art algorithms, As a photographer and painter i've quite feeding it.
Andrew, I was excited to share this creative endeavor with my class members. This interview offers so many aspects of the art process. What a blessing. I am thankful today for having found your first podcast back when. Blessings, Diana
Absolutely inspiring! Learned so much about how to approach a subject and to be able to see the person in a different way. Putting away the photographic reference and trying to get the essence or soul of the person is key. There is always something there that escapes the camera lens but is vital to the end product which takes more time to uncover than a snapshot can capture which I guess also speaks to the AI angle. Another gem I came away with was the rendering of the shoulder. ‘ That’s how I see it when I’m looking at your face’. Backs up the idea of “Selective Focus” which is another failing of the automatic camera lens where everything is in equal focus. We simply don’t see things that way and it can distract our attention from the main event. Loved this interview and how your podcasts are bringing artists and their ideas together. Thank you both, and keep them coming! God Bless...
Glad you enjoyed and love your words " There is always something there that escapes the camera lens but is vital to the end product which takes more time to uncover than a snapshot can capture which I guess also speaks to the AI angle." so true ! God bless
Michelle, I can say that you not only captured him and his essence but even his hand! Those long fingers against his cheek. I love that you painted him in his studio garb… that’s the way I remember him most. I’m not sure anyone else has painted him with his denim. He was so influential to many of us and a friend. Was such fun to get to know you on your first visit to paint with him.
Thank you so much Lori , that means so much coming from you who knew him well : ) Its the way I remember him most as well ....also at the kitchen table discussing world history and art with a tall glass of milk ; )
Regarding AI.I ask myself if I would rather have a flat pack from IKEA or a hand crafted piece of an ancient tree by an artisan who put his heart and soul into it. Then I ask, which can I afford! I then decide to work extra hours to get the one that I fall in love with.
This is what happens all the time in my paintings too: the sketch is lively and shows the essence of what I want to transport, and after rendering it into a painting it's gone, sometimes completely. That really sucks, and I still have not figured out how to change that.
I love both of your work so much. I’ve decided I will never get to where I want to be in the few years I have left. I plan to give away the pieces I have in the gallery and only paint for fun from here on.
don't put limits on yourself , it all begins in your mind . You will create what you believe is possible and prove yourself right either way ! Anything is possible...but I do believe the idea of "painting for fun" in your words holds a vital key .... If you can do that amidst deadlines , interruptions , intrusive thoughts , unexpected distractions... thats the place where genius can come through because you tap into a place deeper than just your own knowledge and touch the edges of possibility. Each moment when truly appreciated can be a universe unto itself filled with all the possibilities of creation. A year lived like that can hold a thousand universes within it...blessing to you
Thanks for these podcasts while paint every morning! I’ve been tattooing since 2011 and went from drawing on paper to iPads and from coil machines to now wireless Rotary machines and hand making stencils to printing them out instantly. I have pushed them all away at first until they slowly become part of my every day. AI isn’t going away so it’s one more thing to embrace. Old masters probably wouldn’t like projectors but if your a professional painter you prob use them from time to time. Also happy to know she follows Jesus 🙏🏼 amen!
Thank you ! Not sure , I'm taking my time with it , savoring the process ...but I'll post it when its done . I often finish one painting fully then move onto the next , but right now I have about 6 different canvases in various stages as I'm painting for gallery shows, a couple commissions, and my Africa paintings : )
I work with computers and use them for many things, aka, watching videos lol also contributions to a few pieces of software in Linux, however, AI takes what is already known, jumbles it up, and spits out an Image but it does not have a discerning eye. Example, two people are asked to write a paper on a mountain peak. One person rushes to the library to research all pertaining to that mountain peak then writes the paper. The second person does the same thing, however he takes a trip to that mountain peak to see it. Which paper would you like best. Without a human eye, it cannot be art.
Hi Andy, I paint a lot on a computer, using photo impact 8. I like it, as you do, but I print my paintings and sell them. People can afford them and I keep the masters to do re-issues in the future. I still watch your tutorials and paint with brushes on canvas, but I would bet if AI paintings become an artform, after the novelty wears off, original art by humans will go up in value, as AI generated art will be viewed as "not quite genuine". Cheeers.
I can’t disagree with the guest enough on AI. I think the elephant in the room that a lot of these guests are ignoring or unaware of is the unethical nature in which these images are sourced. Not too mention by your own admission Andrew this technology in its current form is destroying jobs. And I think the most egregious takeaway from this is the “ just adapt and get better bro “ mentality. It is ridiculous and unjust not to mention immoral to ask humans to compete with machines for diminishing returns from a career standpoint. Instead of forcing artists on a hamster wheel to worn harder for less how about fighting the proliferation of this tech through unions, guilds and organizations like the concept art association and take your case to your government representatives? Is the solution but the guest - lay down and just accept that it is inevitable- really the best you can muster when this tech is coming for all of creatives? Not just artists but actors, writers, camera k”men? Where is the backbone? Where is the class consciousness? To be clear the guest seems like a generally wonderful person and her work is excellent but this wired techno utopian insistence on “ everything just working out “ Doesn’t track historically.
Actually not what I was saying at all. We just briefly touched upon a subject that has many components. I'm not in the field of technological art or illustration where AI Is prevalent , so we just brushed upon the subject lightly , but I think everyone is aware of the unethical nature from which the images are sourced so we didn't get into that ( that would be a whole podcast unto itself ) I think it will be a call to action to create better laws supporting artists and their intellectual copyright... which has been long needed in my opinion even way before IA. "Just adapt and get better or lay down and accept what is inevitable " are NOT my words but yours... I don't believe in adapting to injustice or anything unethical, I think we need to fight hard for what we believe in - in any cause. But, I also believe in the power of simultaneously holding onto faith amidst the battle. The work of a machine can ever equal the work created by a human being. It may be flashy and new and interesting for awhile to those who can't readily sense the difference , but it has an emptiness and a lack of soul and that soul is necessary in the arts to move people and inspire people...always and in every medium. Theres a wide misconception that having faith means doing nothing , which couldn't be further from the truth in my opinion. It means having done All you can do outwardly, you stand in faith, in belief that all things will work out , that there is a purpose through difficulty and that the human spirit will always rise higher than the obstacle at hand
@@dunawayfineart having faith of course is your prerogative but I look at the world as it is and use reason and empirical evidence as well as look at recent history when making these sorts of judgements. Sure I paraphrased a bit, but honestly that is how I I interpreted the conversation. But saying “ we can’t really stop it” well yes we can. We have the ability to clone human beings right now but we don’t. Know why? Bc as a society we have agreed that is off the table. I hear these sorts of “ it’s inevitable” arguments from a lot of popular CZcamsrs and I just shake my head. At one point feudalism seemed inevitable. This technology is NOT a tool though. That is not how it’s developers intended it. It is a replacement. If I’m working in a factory and I use a wrench to tighten a lug nut, that’s a tool. If the factory owner brings in a robotic arm to work the wrench for me, that robotic arm isn’t a tool it’s a replacement. I’ve been around a bit I’m in my 40s and I can say confidently that even photoshop as awesome as it is has ultimately taken a wrecking ball to the illustration market. I’m all for technology but it has to be used ethically, not in the service of profit for a few greedy oligarchs in Silicon Valley
@@genreartwithjb5095 I agree with some of what you say such as technology needs to be used ethically...definitely ! And that's where the degree of use and copyright laws to protect artists intellectual property rights need to be put into place. I do believe technology is a tool though. It ultimately depends on the intent of the human being wielding it. To use your example of a robotic arm, those devices are used in hospital surgeries today that are too delicate for human hands, but it is still guided by a human mind with years of medical knowledge. A machine can't think and strategize with empathy considering the overall well being of a person. It can process data and come to conclusions, but thats not the same. There is no replacement for human intuition and creative problem solving. I think computers can assist with that but not replace it . I was actually in art school in the 90's pursuing illustration ( I'm 50 ) when photoshop hit and much of the same conversations were taking place among artists as they are right now with AI. Speaking to my own advice in the video ( and I can only speak from my own experience ) I choose to look at the situation from a different angle because we can't stop technology from existing or progressing ( we can put limits on it and I agree that's an absolute necessity to keep it within ethical boundaries ) But because of that shift in Illustration , it forced me to look towards fine art , something I had never considered I could do as a job and make a good living at. I know of a few other artists personally who were top illustrators in their field back then ( they are older than I am ) and when their jobs vanished they turned to fine art and have become some of the most amazing , competent, and well known fine artists living today. Their illustration work was incredible and inspiring , don't get me wrong .. but what I saw and experienced was a HUGE resurgence of fine art and classical painting in the 90's and early 2000's which continues to this day. And, I am so glad all of those fine art paintings from those artists exist today ! I can't pretend though to even imagine how difficult that transition for them must have been back then as I was only starting out in my 20 s not worrying about supporting a family like they were. Photoshop is now considered a tool , I utilize it as many other artists do as a way to plan and strategize for paintings , create color comps, and enhance reference to then create something by hand. Personally, I don't believe computer technology will ever replace artistic expression because a computer can't respond to its environment, it can only record it. It can adjust images, but ultimately only a human being can create meaningful art.
Thank you, Andrew, for having Michelle as a guest. I painted with her in South Africa on her first trip. I was stunned the opportunity was available to a beginner painter, as I have admired her work, as well as Ricahrd's, for years but never dreamed I would work with one of them in person, and certainly not in such a magical, intense and unique area of the world. I had not traveled nor even flown since my 24 year old was born, so this trip was life changing on many levels, but I simply had to take the opportunity, even more urgently as Richard had recently passed and I'm not getting any younger. What I learned from her words and watching her paint, sharing her thought process, and providing her input on your work in the moment, will inform my work for as long as I can lift a brush. Her appreciation of the natural world and respect for the models was beyond inspiring. Again, Andrew, I so appreciate your offerings and your selfless sharing and insights.
Robin , it was so lovely to get to know you and go on safari together in Africa ! It was such an incredible trip experiencing the wonders of Africa as a group and all of us painting together, cuddling elephants, and taking in those magnificent sunsets. Your words touch my heart deeply and reaffirm the very reason I take time to teach and love to do so ...I wish you much inspiration in your painting and hope to see you again in the near future! When Andrew and I do part 2 as he suggested I plan to share many of the paintings and drawings I am currently creating from Africa : )
I'm standing here now and painting, and I'm struggling, overwhelmed by the thought that people are going to see it and that it's not good enough. Then I hear that I shouldn’t be thinking about what others will say, and I need to connect with myself. Tears well up in my eyes, yes, because that’s why I paint - because I love it. My paintings might end up pleasing some people, but I can’t paint with that intention. Thank you Andrew and Michelle, I’m having the most wonderful painting session while listening to your conversation xxx
Michelle is empathetic, sensitive and articulate. Enjoyed hearing this, so thank you to Andrew and Michelle. Oh, and her paintings are amazing too!
Thank you Lori
Originally I was going to say this interview had so many golden nuggets but listening through the end, it was actually priceless. This was the first time I listened to an interview with Michelle. Just fantastic! Thank you.
So many parallels. Amen to the transparency of faith. The soul has much to do with creativity, whether a person realizes it or not. This fact is why AI will never dominate us as artists. I feel one might use it as a tool but not as a substitute for our vision and output.
Amen to that ! The inherent birthright of our souls is to be creative ~and no amount of technology can replace that or reproduce it to the same degree
Every time I hear Michelle speak I am just lit with a fire and paint immediately! Thank you (a million times) for doing this podcast and having such great people speak their hearts. I am so inspired everytime ❤
Thank you so much ! We all need to have our fire re-lit by each other . It's one of the things I love about technology that it does make the world able to connect more easily so we can inspire one another to create.
I really enjoyed this discussion with Michelle and her love for life and painting. I liked her outlook on giving rather than getting and how to better serve or inspire with what talents we have. Thank you for another great discussion.
Enjoyed!!!! Part 2!! Please...and Africa with Ms Dunaway please !!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
she is so articulate! and enlightened! thanks for this interview
Thank you so much for your kind words Linda!
This dame is a work of art.
Great podcast, thank you, Tish
Lol
I am convinced that your creative work if art when put A.I. challenge will supercede all creative real human emotions with it's complimentary brush strokes that can not be duplicated!!!❤❤❤❤
Fabulous lessons for life, thank you for this interview 🙏 I could listen to her more. There is always something new and positive to learn. Thank you Andrew. ❤
Thank you, Andrew and Michelle! An inspiring interview with two great artists who are great encouragers! A line in there from one of Michelle’s stories, “Don’t deprive people the blessing of seeing your work.”
I really enjoyed talking with Andrew ! I cant wait to listen to more of his podcasts with other artists as I paint : )
Two of my all time favorites right here
Love Michelle’s work. Such a fabulous artist
Thank you !!
this is really the best artist interview I ever listened to!!
I'm so glad you enjoyed ! Thank you and Inspirations to you !
Well, I really enjoyed this podcast Andrew! So inspiring and so many profound thoughts, quotes and tips - I'm definitely going to write these down! Did some sketching whle listening of Michelle too. Now to look up her work.... 😀
Love love her work and perspective!
Thank you !
Amen!! Go, Michelle!
What a pleasure listening to this! I'm so thankful ❤
When Michelle talked about creativity and children, I was reminded of helping an art teacher in middle school. The kids thought if their sketches weren’t “perfect” they were no good. I told them that they were the artist and if they followed the outline of the assignment, and were happy with their finished art, it was perfect! What a change! They had fun and opened up to trying harder.
Lucky kids to have your words !
I'm so pleased Michelle followed her childhood instincts and became a character artist. She has a natural fascination with people and their expressions. Thanks, Andrew, for this brilliant interview.
Just excellent, Andrew.. So impressed with Michelle.
I here people say that all the time!!! “Oh m not creative…or an artist…” I always comeback with just what Michelle said! Almost word for word! I have been a professional artist since age 14 and now 57…and when I could not create for sales…i was creating From curiosity…people even comment I am like a little kid lol…i take that with honor…
Excellent interview. So much great information. Thank you
I feel sorry for anyone who missed this interview. Andrew, you are my favourite interviewer. You don't interrupt all the time, you draw out the best thoughts, you disarm and calm and charm, and your own input is so insightful, intelligent and yet humble. This lady was a gem of a guest.
Thank you for this.
You are an incredible person, Andrew!
Great interview and interviewing skills. You're a natural Andrew!
I loved this podcast. Michelle certainly has a way with words. Totally inspired now. Thank you Andrew
I attended a worshop called "Weekend With the Masters",( that must be around 10 or 12 years ago) and there was this portrait painting demostration by Daniel Gerhartz and an other Master (I can´t recall who was it) and the model was Michelle Dunaway! I was so impressed the way they went about it, but I was also very much impressed by the way Daniel capture Michelle inner beauty. Her face stuck in my mind for so many years, and now there she is in one of your videos. I realized immediatly It was her! I did not know her name, nor that she was an artist and such a good painter, for me she was a beautiful woman posing for the demostration, but Daniel grasped what se´s describing as capturing her soul. Andrew This is my first time watching your channel and I will absolutly subcribe to it as well as to Michelle´s, who is no longer an unforgettable face. Thank you both for being. ((Bear with me, english is not my first language
Thank you for an awesome interview. I am so inspired to take my work to a next level.
Thank you, both on so many levels. Yes, on part 2.
We'll do it ! : )
Michelle has always inspired me, Richard and Nancy and Tisch are a fine example of art filled hearts. Every brush stroke in cloud software like Photoshop are feeding the ai art algorithms, As a photographer and painter i've quite feeding it.
Andrew, I was excited to share this creative endeavor with my class members. This interview offers so many aspects of the art process. What a blessing. I am thankful today for having found your first podcast back when. Blessings, Diana
I love to hear about others Christian artist!!
Me too!
And me....
I’m one of them too ❤
Absolutely inspiring! Learned so much about how to approach a subject and to be able to see the person in a different way. Putting away the photographic reference and trying to get the essence or soul of the person is key. There is always something there that escapes the camera lens but is vital to the end product which takes more time to uncover than a snapshot can capture which I guess also speaks to the AI angle.
Another gem I came away with was the rendering of the shoulder. ‘ That’s how I see it when I’m looking at your face’.
Backs up the idea of “Selective Focus” which is another failing of the automatic camera lens where everything is in equal focus. We simply don’t see things that way and it can distract our attention from the main event.
Loved this interview and how your podcasts are bringing artists and their ideas together.
Thank you both, and keep them coming! God Bless...
Glad you enjoyed and love your words " There is always something there that escapes the camera lens but is vital to the end product which takes more time to uncover than a snapshot can capture which I guess also speaks to the AI angle." so true ! God bless
Thank you Andrew this pod was amazing as always, and thank you Michelle for sharing your story.
Glad you enjoyed , thanks for listening : )
Great exchange. Thank you Michelle and Andrew.
Thank you for this inspiring episode . You find amazing artists 🎨 ❤️
Michelle, I can say that you not only captured him and his essence but even his hand! Those long fingers against his cheek. I love that you painted him in his studio garb… that’s the way I remember him most. I’m not sure anyone else has painted him with his denim. He was so influential to many of us and a friend. Was such fun to get to know you on your first visit to paint with him.
Thank you so much Lori , that means so much coming from you who knew him well : ) Its the way I remember him most as well ....also at the kitchen table discussing world history and art with a tall glass of milk ; )
What an inspiration. Welcome to Kenya Mitchelle and everyone. God bless y'all
Regarding AI.I ask myself if I would rather have a flat pack from IKEA or a hand crafted piece of an ancient tree by an artisan who put his heart and soul into it. Then I ask, which can I afford! I then decide to work extra hours to get the one that I fall in love with.
yes ! And which can inspire you everyday .... : )
This is what happens all the time in my paintings too: the sketch is lively and shows the essence of what I want to transport, and after rendering it into a painting it's gone, sometimes completely. That really sucks, and I still have not figured out how to change that.
❤️❤️❤️ the perfect start to my morning. Thank you Andrew and Michelle!
Thank you Marin ! Glad you enjoyed
Andrew you are amazing ❤❤❤❤
I love both of your work so much. I’ve decided I will never get to where I want to be in the few years I have left.
I plan to give away the pieces I have in the gallery and only paint for fun from here on.
don't put limits on yourself , it all begins in your mind . You will create what you believe is possible and prove yourself right either way ! Anything is possible...but I do believe the idea of "painting for fun" in your words holds a vital key .... If you can do that amidst deadlines , interruptions , intrusive thoughts , unexpected distractions... thats the place where genius can come through because you tap into a place deeper than just your own knowledge and touch the edges of possibility. Each moment when truly appreciated can be a universe unto itself filled with all the possibilities of creation. A year lived like that can hold a thousand universes within it...blessing to you
Very good.. just paint what you love
Again you say "A.I." is "creating art". No. As Alpa Efe said, "A.I. creates images. Humans create art." He's right. A.I. does not create art.
Beautifully precise..
yes , only sentient beings create art
Thanks for these podcasts while paint every morning!
I’ve been tattooing since 2011 and went from drawing on paper to iPads and from coil machines to now wireless Rotary machines and hand making stencils to printing them out instantly. I have pushed them all away at first until they slowly become part of my every day. AI isn’t going away so it’s one more thing to embrace. Old masters probably wouldn’t like projectors but if your a professional painter you prob use them from time to time.
Also happy to know she follows Jesus 🙏🏼 amen!
Great ❤ 😊
Loved this podcast. When are you posting your lion painting ?
Thank you ! Not sure , I'm taking my time with it , savoring the process ...but I'll post it when its done . I often finish one painting fully then move onto the next , but right now I have about 6 different canvases in various stages as I'm painting for gallery shows, a couple commissions, and my Africa paintings : )
I work with computers and use them for many things, aka, watching videos lol also contributions to a few pieces of software in Linux, however, AI takes what is already known, jumbles it up, and spits out an Image but it does not have a discerning eye. Example, two people are asked to write a paper on a mountain peak. One person rushes to the library to research all pertaining to that mountain peak then writes the paper. The second person does the same thing, however he takes a trip to that mountain peak to see it. Which paper would you like best. Without a human eye, it cannot be art.
Hi Andy, I paint a lot on a computer, using photo impact 8. I like it, as you do, but I print my paintings and sell them. People can afford them and I keep the masters to do re-issues in the future. I still watch your tutorials and paint with brushes on canvas, but I would bet if AI paintings become an artform, after the novelty wears off, original art by humans will go up in value, as AI generated art will be viewed as "not quite genuine". Cheeers.
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I can’t disagree with the guest enough on AI. I think the elephant in the room that a lot of these guests are ignoring or unaware of is the unethical nature in which these images are sourced. Not too mention by your own admission Andrew this technology in its current form is destroying jobs. And I think the most egregious takeaway from this is the “ just adapt and get better bro “ mentality. It is ridiculous and unjust not to mention immoral to ask humans to compete with machines for diminishing returns from a career standpoint. Instead of forcing artists on a hamster wheel to worn harder for less how about fighting the proliferation of this tech through unions, guilds and organizations like the concept art association and take your case to your government representatives? Is the solution but the guest - lay down and just accept that it is inevitable- really the best you can muster when this tech is coming for all of creatives? Not just artists but actors, writers, camera k”men? Where is the backbone? Where is the class consciousness? To be clear the guest seems like a generally wonderful person and her work is excellent but this wired techno utopian insistence on “ everything just working out “
Doesn’t track historically.
Actually not what I was saying at all. We just briefly touched upon a subject that has many components. I'm not in the field of technological art or illustration where AI Is prevalent , so we just brushed upon the subject lightly , but I think everyone is aware of the unethical nature from which the images are sourced so we didn't get into that ( that would be a whole podcast unto itself ) I think it will be a call to action to create better laws supporting artists and their intellectual copyright... which has been long needed in my opinion even way before IA. "Just adapt and get better or lay down and accept what is inevitable " are NOT my words but yours... I don't believe in adapting to injustice or anything unethical, I think we need to fight hard for what we believe in - in any cause. But, I also believe in the power of simultaneously holding onto faith amidst the battle. The work of a machine can ever equal the work created by a human being. It may be flashy and new and interesting for awhile to those who can't readily sense the difference , but it has an emptiness and a lack of soul and that soul is necessary in the arts to move people and inspire people...always and in every medium. Theres a wide misconception that having faith means doing nothing , which couldn't be further from the truth in my opinion. It means having done All you can do outwardly, you stand in faith, in belief that all things will work out , that there is a purpose through difficulty and that the human spirit will always rise higher than the obstacle at hand
@@dunawayfineart having faith of course is your prerogative but I look at the world as it is and use reason and empirical evidence as well as look at recent history when making these sorts of judgements. Sure I paraphrased a bit, but honestly that is how I I interpreted the conversation. But saying “ we can’t really stop it” well yes we can. We have the ability to clone human beings right now but we don’t. Know why? Bc as a society we have agreed that is off the table. I hear these sorts of “ it’s inevitable” arguments from a lot of popular CZcamsrs and I just shake my head. At one point feudalism seemed inevitable. This technology is NOT a tool though. That is not how it’s developers intended it. It is a replacement. If I’m working in a factory and I use a wrench to tighten a lug nut, that’s a tool. If the factory owner brings in a robotic arm to work the wrench for me, that robotic arm isn’t a tool it’s a replacement. I’ve been around a bit I’m in my 40s and I can say confidently that even photoshop as awesome as it is has ultimately taken a wrecking ball to the illustration market. I’m all for technology but it has to be used ethically, not in the service of profit for a few greedy oligarchs in Silicon Valley
@@genreartwithjb5095 I agree with some of what you say such as technology needs to be used ethically...definitely ! And that's where the degree of use and copyright laws to protect artists intellectual property rights need to be put into place. I do believe technology is a tool though. It ultimately depends on the intent of the human being wielding it. To use your example of a robotic arm, those devices are used in hospital surgeries today that are too delicate for human hands, but it is still guided by a human mind with years of medical knowledge. A machine can't think and strategize with empathy considering the overall well being of a person. It can process data and come to conclusions, but thats not the same. There is no replacement for human intuition and creative problem solving. I think computers can assist with that but not replace it . I was actually in art school in the 90's pursuing illustration ( I'm 50 ) when photoshop hit and much of the same conversations were taking place among artists as they are right now with AI. Speaking to my own advice in the video ( and I can only speak from my own experience ) I choose to look at the situation from a different angle because we can't stop technology from existing or progressing ( we can put limits on it and I agree that's an absolute necessity to keep it within ethical boundaries ) But because of that shift in Illustration , it forced me to look towards fine art , something I had never considered I could do as a job and make a good living at. I know of a few other artists personally who were top illustrators in their field back then ( they are older than I am ) and when their jobs vanished they turned to fine art and have become some of the most amazing , competent, and well known fine artists living today. Their illustration work was incredible and inspiring , don't get me wrong .. but what I saw and experienced was a HUGE resurgence of fine art and classical painting in the 90's and early 2000's which continues to this day. And, I am so glad all of those fine art paintings from those artists exist today ! I can't pretend though to even imagine how difficult that transition for them must have been back then as I was only starting out in my 20 s not worrying about supporting a family like they were. Photoshop is now considered a tool , I utilize it as many other artists do as a way to plan and strategize for paintings , create color comps, and enhance reference to then create something by hand. Personally, I don't believe computer technology will ever replace artistic expression because a computer can't respond to its environment, it can only record it. It can adjust images, but ultimately only a human being can create meaningful art.
The more people use AI…the smarter it will get…then supersede Humanity…and to its own admissions…see us as the problem and remove us.
No to AI. It’s programming not creating.