I often go through these kinds of videos, because while creating is everything to me it's also the hardest thing in the world. It's such a struggle to have your only comfort be the source of anxiety and other doubts. So thank you for this. I so want to make more content, and be beneficial to those around me. But I don't finish my projects, I start them but they never get done. It's frustrating because I'm sure that's what's keeping me from growing.
I completely understand this stress-- we're glad you're finding some comfort in content like this :) This video has also helped me when facing artist burnout, maybe you'll like it as well: artprof.org/pro-development/how-to-deal-with-artist-burnout/ - Mia, Art Prof Staff
@@artprof it sounds like your advice on the link to prevent artist burnout, is essentially to stop being an artist. That's not good advice, artists will still want to be artists if they simply get over their burnout. And I greatly doubt it would take a several years break to combat artist burnout. Better advice would be how to prevent burnout while still being proactive to the art task/tasks at hand. Life is semi short, if artists treat breaks like a 5 year vacation they're never going to be artists. And preventing artist burnout is never as complicated as ones mind tends to make it out to be.
I am an art teacher - secondary education - and feel so dissatisfied with my career and my inability to 'create' because of anxiety and feeling overwhelmed. I want to have an 'artist' friends but find it hard to hang out with other creatives because I have this feeling like they are 'silly' or not to be taken seriously because of how I was raised to be in something like business or something else
I think this is really common in a lot of places where being an artist is not respected, you see it everywhere unfortunately. I think the important thing is to have 1, ideally 2 people you can talk to. They don't even necessarily have to be visual artists, I find that my friends who are writers struggle with similar issues as well. -Prof Lieu
why not make a group of individuals who draw scarcely just to belong to a community of such...no need to post every day , week , month or 6 months. and all posts are about art . an artistic community of non artists
Dear Victoria. As a former working artist who now works in the medical field. Try this, put the art career aside and try another line of work. When you consider all the wars in the world, homeless, hungry, sick people perhaps you will feel like I did, art was important but nowadays, the world needs hands on people to actually do something to help other people. Nurse, doctor, EMT, social worker. I never felt like I was of any value when I did when I was an artist because I was shallow, pretentious, boring, narcisstic, and hung up on trivia. A1 and 3D printers will soon make artists obsolete. I switched to the medical feeland am happy to help save lives
Art is very definition of CULTURE... humanity is defined by its culture. Businesses come and go. Art is forever. Venus of Willendorf, ancient Moche, African art, Mt Vesuvius mosaics, Chinese porcelains, Native American wall carving, Inuit whale tooth carvings...treasures that define people AS a people. THAT is humanities. Everything else is background noise.
I deal with nurses and doctors every month who I fervently wish had taken up art and not medicine. It's possibly the worst field to get into if you are better suited to be something else, as you can do so much damage and it's already full of frustrated angry jerks who'd rather be elsewhere. @@patriciamartin6756
I struggled with mental health issues since I was young a victim of abuse, but I use my art to deal with it, I do it to relieve stress. I enjoy doing art, and recently started doing music. I really don't post my artwork on social media because of past mental health. I been doing art since I was eight, I am now 46. I do my art because I love it. I do share my art with friends and family.
i once made a picture depicting my own conflict within myself . of how i was bullying myself into doing stuff and uploaded it to a group for critique....they did NOT appreciate it . said it was violent. the bad comments became so much that i had to take it down and never post things like that ever again (though it seemed important to me , i dont know why). even my family said why would you make this. but i did. i still keep it but ive realized that art for my mental health is only that. for MY health and pleasure (or displeasure in my case). ..the act of just drawing it out helped though
gearhead making the case for a private sketch collection! Sometimes words in a journal don’t do it for me. Using art as you did is exercising an important muscle - communicating visually. Bravo!
@@Sides3Sides interesting. But what does one do with it. Delete or throw it away? I mean it is an act of communication. What to do when no one likes what you communicate
Yes, subject matter like this is challenging for a lot of people. I had an exhibition once and the gallery director ended up having to place a disclaimer in the show because some people who worked in an office near the gallery (it was at a university) complained about how difficult the images were. You're not alone in this experience! -Prof Lieu
gearhead sometimes you are communicating with yourself. Or perhaps practicing on communicating deep emotions. Sharing with family might be too frank for them. Not everyone is comfortable with disturbing content. I’d keep the pieces, though. For looking-back purposes, at the very least.
Acknowledgment of a separate journey is such good advice! Thankyou Alex! I personally struggle with a lot of the topics that you guys have been going over in this video i can’t say enough how much I appreciate the candor and honesty that you both are bringing not just to the art talks but also the mental health topics as well and I really appreciate the content.
Great video!! Very appropriate. I don't drink, drug, gamble or smoke but my art (and supplies) are both my addiction and my joy! Always turn to my art when I'm stressed. Alex, same with social media, stopped using it 15 months ago. Was only using it for art but found a growing sense of competition and pressure. Realised it was stressing me more than nurturing. My art history lecturer at art school would always introduce an artist by their social and family history, addictions and mental health neuroses BEFORE talking about the art. It would 'knock them off their pedestal' and give us a truer background of the artist's conscious and unconscious influences. Made an impact with me so have used this approach with artists work ever since. TFS!!!
So many good points in this. I think after the height of the pandemic stress (like is parents dealing with virtual school) that people are now aaaalll too ready to talk about mental health. I also love the idea of hearing from more older-ish artists that are working but not SMASHING successful and hear how they are handling their career, etc. I know we had an illustrator on not too long ago and he talked about all the rejection he faced before he started selling books. Very interesting!
I love this channel and I love that you are brave enough to talk about this topic. I needed to comment on the statement Alex made about surrendering to depression. You cannot ever surrender to it! That's how you lose the battle and the war. With mental illness, you must always remember that there is a healthy mind and believe you can return to it. If you don't, you get swallowed by the darkness, and who wants that? Mental illness is overwhelming for many people and can literally take over their entire existence. Giving in means death. You must clash and resist and continue to fight against the weight of it! It's so difficult to get back the ground you lose to the illness but I promise you can!
love your channel and your discussions! very rarely deep and genuine. I like how Clara just speaks out the thoughts on my mind when seeing Alex's lobster: we feel like garbage now! lol
Hahahaha! Yes, when you get extraordinary students like Alex, you know that many of them will surpass you once whey get out of school. I have accepted this fact! -Prof Lieu
Love this. I just started a series while working on my longstanding trauma and it's already personally powerful. We'll see if its expressiveness is artistic enough to show, but it almost doesn't matter.
I actually like the personal Milaropa painting better then the commissions. It feels more expressive, more authentic, more painterly. I really like the graphic simplicity of the design, I think it captures the narrative beautifully.
05:12: the thing is: for an artist like myself, for whom doing art is not my source of income....social media is sometimes the only way to get in contact with people at all. I am "only a hobbiest"...when i stop social media...nobody...and i mean NOBODY will see my art. I am a comic artist and comic art is pointless without readers/viewers. But because i have a main job and can not do 10 hours art a day...i am not able to ever get to a status to try go to a zine or stuff. So...social media...art plattforms are my only interaction with readers. I don't get paid either ( i wish i would, but without people knowing me...how would i find customers as illustrator that is not working fulltime?)...so i do my art to mainly make people happy and interaction, comments or feedback in any shape or form is the only "payment" i have. Of course i can sit again alone in my hobby room, doing comics..and than what? Put them in a box and forget about them? I sometimes feel like "real artists" ( people who live from their art), can say: of course i can get of social media. But same can not easily be said for hobbyists like me with barely 300 follower max and in best time like 20 likes on a pic. If i stop...i loose these 20 people who take time to look at my stuff and i can start at zero again... That feels horrible. I do not post daily or so. I know i can post whenever i want, but the hurt is there and the bad feeling of being a failure, if you have worked 10+ hours on a piece, improved technique...style...colorscheme...and nobody has any form of feedback for you. The thing is: one does not know: am i just a shitty artist, my art pointless and boring, or does the algorithm simply hate me? I just started to watch your channel and perhaps you have an episode on this theme specifically. That would be great. Because i see many young artists or older ones like myself going down under this algorithms that do not even show your stuff to your followers, that subscribed to you because they wanted to see your art. More than 10 years now i try to get to know more people who will enjoy what i have to give...but it feels like trying to drink the ocean...and i feel lost and my motivation to do art is at some days so low because it feel as if it is pointless . If i want to do it only for myself, i can spare the energy and think of the picture how it would have looked like, enjoy the thought and not take 15 hours to make a comic page, only to see that not a single person in a world wide medium gives a single fuck. I wish i would be able to make the step, take the efford and try to become a freelance artist, doing it fulltime...but my mental health issues need me to have a stable job with very (and i mean VERY) stable environment. Not knowing what will be tomorrow, or next week is something that would cause me to go into an episode and my depression would skyrock to a point, where i am totally unable to do the simplest self care. But inside: i am mainly an artist. I am just not mentally strong enough to do it for a living. I hope watching your videos will help me a bit with advice how to stay strong and not stop doing what is the only thing i really love doing.
Thank you so much for sharing this with us. The pressures of social media effect so many of us in the artistic field, no matter what skill level, especially since platforms like Instagram have become almost essential for success. We do have a video about social media tips and tricks that you might enjoy: czcams.com/video/LuMSBQ3MDnA/video.html Also, we would love for you to join our Discord Server! We have tons of conversations everyday about art, and you can post your work for critiques from our staff and other people too. The best part is the amazing artistic community you'll get to be a part of. Here is the invite link: discord.gg/g5XQRpT Good luck in your artistic journey, we would love to be a part of it! -Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
I have a friend from my MFA program who's currently having a show at the Whitney. I have other friends who've been in Whitney biennials, major blue chip gallery representation, and guggenheims. I am constantly looking at their instagrams ; even though I know I shouldn't, ,and their hundreds of likes and comments and perfect gallery shots and I feel like a failure almost all the time.
OMG. The awards/accomplished convo was so validating! I'm working on Mudita, but, it's still so hard to not feel shamed for being nowhere near or never recognized.
Thanks for this video I don’t know if anyone mentioned this, but it reminds me of the story of Philip Glass. From mentalfloss: Said Glass in 2001: "While working, I suddenly heard a noise and looked up to find Robert Hughes, the art critic of TIME magazine, staring at me in disbelief. 'But you're Philip Glass! What are you doing here?' It was obvious that I was installing his dishwasher and I told him I would soon be finished. 'But you are an artist,' he protested. I explained that I was an artist but that I was sometimes a plumber as well and that he should go away and let me finish."
As a successful working artist with 2 college degrees, I was working late one night Until that night art--FINE, graphic, Fibre, advertising, had become my only interest in life. Suddenly, my airway, lungs closed up--a,reaction to a food allergy. Fortunately, my LTR was home and called 911. The ambulance took me to the hospital where they saved my life. During my stay in the hospital I came to see there were more important things in life than art. I went for training in a medical career and would like to one day specialize in reconstructive surgery. I am sorry I wasted years doing something that was NEVER IMPORTANT
Even though my work uses allegory and mythology to discuss political issues and personal experiences; mental health figures dominantly in my work. My paintings, sculptures, and installations are all about trauma, healing, ptsd, depression and anxiety. My use of mythological characters allow me some remove from the subject. The paintings aren't about my rape, they're about Dina or Persephone's rape. It allows my work to be more expansive than it would be if it was just about me.
I really wish that people would do artist lectured talking about everything and not just their success. It would be so intresting to hear instead of look at all these cool things I did. Also I thought of something worse than silence with art critiques which is when its so bad and you know it is but no one will say it. Everyone just compliments you and acts like you did fine but their compliments are so generic. Just oof
could you please make more streams related to mental health? How about artists, who have went through abusive childhood, teachers and afraid of posting anything because of it?
We'll consider it! Try these 2 videos: Racism at Art School: czcams.com/video/_cORmIvsHMA/video.html and Art School Tea: When You Can’t Related to Your Art Professor: czcams.com/video/YrNwzuYtKkw/video.html -Prof Lieu
@@artprof Thank you! Though my case is a little bit different. I had a traumatizing event in my life including the death of my parent, while being a teen studying at a prestige school by local standards , due to depression I have started to skip school a lot and teachers blamed mentally abused me in all ways possible, saying that my mother would have hated to see this (if she was alive) and I should get back to my Shitown. Adding to that, in my country one really hateful and bitter, pathetic person who has started posting drawings of underaged kids without their consent only to heavily criticize , mostly unconstructive. Thus, a lot of youngster were either anxious (inclding me) to post anything online or join that collective bullying, hoping you are not going to be the next "discussed". Usually, I am very skeptical of cancel culture, but when a 24+ something woman, who is ugly internally/externally, draws worse than those people whom she criticizes starts bullying kids on the Internet... I just snap out. Like, imagine being the most pathetic female human being and throw your tantrum at kids, who are better than you , at least morally, only to redeem yourself by not allowing them to grow : p I am currently recovering from anxiety and stuff, post things regularly and watch amazing videos from you. Hopefully, my comment will give you more insides. I will probably message you tell even more for you to discuss, because I don`t have tea to spill, I have a tea pot collection...
I recommend joining our Discord Server, we have tons of conversations everyday about art, and you can post your work for critiques from our staff and other people too! Here is the invite link: discord.gg/g5XQRpT -Prof Lieu
Artists are stressed out because they're at odds with a public that A. doesn't respect and/or appreciate art, imagination and creativity in general and B. if they do accept the "art," it's only if it no longer is what the artist wants to generate and in the range of commercialism, watered down mainstream material instead. Anyone who has worked on, studied or at least is in the know about corporate "art," movies, comic books, whatever, even books especially nowadays, have to be to some degree commercialized. It's not art, it's pandering, it's company executives and "the artist" trying to make the greedy bucks. This is too taboo of material, this crosses too much in what is sexual or violent because it crosses this and that obscenity guidelines, this presentation of the storyline or even the storyline itself, does not fall in line to commercialism expectations, this drama is too harsh, it's presented to visually gothic and blah, blah fucking blah with whatever complaints. True artists make what they want, not what the public wants. The public aren't the artists. The artist is. Consequently, obviously, the stipulation on the free soul of the artists work becomes very stressful, disheartening and depressing even.
I often go through these kinds of videos, because while creating is everything to me it's also the hardest thing in the world. It's such a struggle to have your only comfort be the source of anxiety and other doubts. So thank you for this. I so want to make more content, and be beneficial to those around me. But I don't finish my projects, I start them but they never get done. It's frustrating because I'm sure that's what's keeping me from growing.
I completely understand this stress-- we're glad you're finding some comfort in content like this :) This video has also helped me when facing artist burnout, maybe you'll like it as well: artprof.org/pro-development/how-to-deal-with-artist-burnout/ - Mia, Art Prof Staff
@@artprof it sounds like your advice on the link to prevent artist burnout, is essentially to stop being an artist. That's not good advice, artists will still want to be artists if they simply get over their burnout. And I greatly doubt it would take a several years break to combat artist burnout. Better advice would be how to prevent burnout while still being proactive to the art task/tasks at hand. Life is semi short, if artists treat breaks like a 5 year vacation they're never going to be artists. And preventing artist burnout is never as complicated as ones mind tends to make it out to be.
I am an art teacher - secondary education - and feel so dissatisfied with my career and my inability to 'create' because of anxiety and feeling overwhelmed. I want to have an 'artist' friends but find it hard to hang out with other creatives because I have this feeling like they are 'silly' or not to be taken seriously because of how I was raised to be in something like business or something else
I think this is really common in a lot of places where being an artist is not respected, you see it everywhere unfortunately. I think the important thing is to have 1, ideally 2 people you can talk to. They don't even necessarily have to be visual artists, I find that my friends who are writers struggle with similar issues as well. -Prof Lieu
why not make a group of individuals who draw scarcely just to belong to a community of such...no need to post every day , week , month or 6 months. and all posts are about art . an artistic community of non artists
Dear Victoria. As a former working artist who now works in the medical field. Try this, put the art career aside and try another line of work. When you consider all the wars in the world, homeless, hungry, sick people perhaps you will feel like I did, art was important but nowadays, the world needs hands on people to actually do something to help other people. Nurse, doctor, EMT, social worker. I never felt like I was of any value when I did when I was an artist because I was shallow, pretentious, boring, narcisstic, and hung up on trivia. A1 and 3D printers will soon make artists obsolete. I switched to the medical feeland am happy to help save lives
Art is very definition of CULTURE... humanity is defined by its culture. Businesses come and go. Art is forever. Venus of Willendorf, ancient Moche, African art, Mt Vesuvius mosaics, Chinese porcelains, Native American wall carving, Inuit whale tooth carvings...treasures that define people AS a people. THAT is humanities. Everything else is background noise.
I deal with nurses and doctors every month who I fervently wish had taken up art and not medicine. It's possibly the worst field to get into if you are better suited to be something else, as you can do so much damage and it's already full of frustrated angry jerks who'd rather be elsewhere. @@patriciamartin6756
I struggled with mental health issues since I was young a victim of abuse, but I use my art to deal with it, I do it to relieve stress. I enjoy doing art, and recently started doing music. I really don't post my artwork on social media because of past mental health. I been doing art since I was eight, I am now 46. I do my art because I love it. I do share my art with friends and family.
Art can provide so much solace in the face of trauma, it's amazing! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
i once made a picture depicting my own conflict within myself . of how i was bullying myself into doing stuff and uploaded it to a group for critique....they did NOT appreciate it . said it was violent. the bad comments became so much that i had to take it down and never post things like that ever again (though it seemed important to me , i dont know why). even my family said why would you make this. but i did. i still keep it but ive realized that art for my mental health is only that. for MY health and pleasure (or displeasure in my case). ..the act of just drawing it out helped though
gearhead making the case for a private sketch collection! Sometimes words in a journal don’t do it for me. Using art as you did is exercising an important muscle - communicating visually. Bravo!
@@Sides3Sides interesting. But what does one do with it. Delete or throw it away? I mean it is an act of communication. What to do when no one likes what you communicate
Yes, subject matter like this is challenging for a lot of people. I had an exhibition once and the gallery director ended up having to place a disclaimer in the show because some people who worked in an office near the gallery (it was at a university) complained about how difficult the images were. You're not alone in this experience! -Prof Lieu
gearhead sometimes you are communicating with yourself. Or perhaps practicing on communicating deep emotions. Sharing with family might be too frank for them. Not everyone is comfortable with disturbing content. I’d keep the pieces, though. For looking-back purposes, at the very least.
Art Prof: Create & Critique 🤭! At least you know that your feelings were well expressed.
Acknowledgment of a separate journey is such good advice! Thankyou Alex! I personally struggle with a lot of the topics that you guys have been going over in this video i can’t say enough how much I appreciate the candor and honesty that you both are bringing not just to the art talks but also the mental health topics as well and I really appreciate the content.
Great video!! Very appropriate. I don't drink, drug, gamble or smoke but my art (and supplies) are both my addiction and my joy! Always turn to my art when I'm stressed. Alex, same with social media, stopped using it 15 months ago. Was only using it for art but found a growing sense of competition and pressure. Realised it was stressing me more than nurturing.
My art history lecturer at art school would always introduce an artist by their social and family history, addictions and mental health neuroses BEFORE talking about the art. It would 'knock them off their pedestal' and give us a truer background of the artist's conscious and unconscious influences. Made an impact with me so have used this approach with artists work ever since. TFS!!!
I love hearing about your art history lecturer! Makes the artists so much more human and relatable. -Prof Lieu
Thank you, I feel very seen.
As you should (you're welcome!) - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
So many good points in this. I think after the height of the pandemic stress (like is parents dealing with virtual school) that people are now aaaalll too ready to talk about mental health.
I also love the idea of hearing from more older-ish artists that are working but not SMASHING successful and hear how they are handling their career, etc. I know we had an illustrator on not too long ago and he talked about all the rejection he faced before he started selling books. Very interesting!
I love this channel and I love that you are brave enough to talk about this topic. I needed to comment on the statement Alex made about surrendering to depression. You cannot ever surrender to it! That's how you lose the battle and the war. With mental illness, you must always remember that there is a healthy mind and believe you can return to it. If you don't, you get swallowed by the darkness, and who wants that?
Mental illness is overwhelming for many people and can literally take over their entire existence. Giving in means death. You must clash and resist and continue to fight against the weight of it! It's so difficult to get back the ground you lose to the illness but I promise you can!
love your channel and your discussions! very rarely deep and genuine. I like how Clara just speaks out the thoughts on my mind when seeing Alex's lobster: we feel like garbage now! lol
Hahahaha! Yes, when you get extraordinary students like Alex, you know that many of them will surpass you once whey get out of school. I have accepted this fact! -Prof Lieu
Really needed this. An important stream. Thanks Prof & Alex!
Mental health really doesn't get talked about enough amongst artists, happy to start a conversation! -Prof Lieu
Love this. I just started a series while working on my longstanding trauma and it's already personally powerful. We'll see if its expressiveness is artistic enough to show, but it almost doesn't matter.
I’m having chills while watching this video, what you said Clara about your mental health was too close to home
I actually like the personal Milaropa painting better then the commissions. It feels more expressive, more authentic, more painterly. I really like the graphic simplicity of the design, I think it captures the narrative beautifully.
Really appreciate the openness of this conversation. Just discovered this channel last week and it is a wonderful resource
We're so glad you enjoyed it! Welcome to the Art Prof Family :) - Mia, Art Prof Staff
05:12: the thing is: for an artist like myself, for whom doing art is not my source of income....social media is sometimes the only way to get in contact with people at all. I am "only a hobbiest"...when i stop social media...nobody...and i mean NOBODY will see my art. I am a comic artist and comic art is pointless without readers/viewers. But because i have a main job and can not do 10 hours art a day...i am not able to ever get to a status to try go to a zine or stuff. So...social media...art plattforms are my only interaction with readers. I don't get paid either ( i wish i would, but without people knowing me...how would i find customers as illustrator that is not working fulltime?)...so i do my art to mainly make people happy and interaction, comments or feedback in any shape or form is the only "payment" i have. Of course i can sit again alone in my hobby room, doing comics..and than what? Put them in a box and forget about them?
I sometimes feel like "real artists" ( people who live from their art), can say: of course i can get of social media. But same can not easily be said for hobbyists like me with barely 300 follower max and in best time like 20 likes on a pic. If i stop...i loose these 20 people who take time to look at my stuff and i can start at zero again...
That feels horrible.
I do not post daily or so. I know i can post whenever i want, but the hurt is there and the bad feeling of being a failure, if you have worked 10+ hours on a piece, improved technique...style...colorscheme...and nobody has any form of feedback for you.
The thing is: one does not know: am i just a shitty artist, my art pointless and boring, or does the algorithm simply hate me?
I just started to watch your channel and perhaps you have an episode on this theme specifically. That would be great.
Because i see many young artists or older ones like myself going down under this algorithms that do not even show your stuff to your followers, that subscribed to you because they wanted to see your art.
More than 10 years now i try to get to know more people who will enjoy what i have to give...but it feels like trying to drink the ocean...and i feel lost and my motivation to do art is at some days so low because it feel as if it is pointless . If i want to do it only for myself, i can spare the energy and think of the picture how it would have looked like, enjoy the thought and not take 15 hours to make a comic page, only to see that not a single person in a world wide medium gives a single fuck.
I wish i would be able to make the step, take the efford and try to become a freelance artist, doing it fulltime...but my mental health issues need me to have a stable job with very (and i mean VERY) stable environment. Not knowing what will be tomorrow, or next week is something that would cause me to go into an episode and my depression would skyrock to a point, where i am totally unable to do the simplest self care.
But inside: i am mainly an artist. I am just not mentally strong enough to do it for a living.
I hope watching your videos will help me a bit with advice how to stay strong and not stop doing what is the only thing i really love doing.
Thank you so much for sharing this with us. The pressures of social media effect so many of us in the artistic field, no matter what skill level, especially since platforms like Instagram have become almost essential for success. We do have a video about social media tips and tricks that you might enjoy: czcams.com/video/LuMSBQ3MDnA/video.html
Also, we would love for you to join our Discord Server! We have tons of conversations everyday about art, and you can post your work for critiques from our staff and other people too. The best part is the amazing artistic community you'll get to be a part of. Here is the invite link: discord.gg/g5XQRpT
Good luck in your artistic journey, we would love to be a part of it! -Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
Excellent video. These are the type of topics that aren’t discuessed enough in the art world.
We're glad you liked it! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
I have a friend from my MFA program who's currently having a show at the Whitney. I have other friends who've been in Whitney biennials, major blue chip gallery representation, and guggenheims. I am constantly looking at their instagrams ; even though I know I shouldn't, ,and their hundreds of likes and comments and perfect gallery shots and I feel like a failure almost all the time.
OMG. The awards/accomplished convo was so validating! I'm working on Mudita, but, it's still so hard to not feel shamed for being nowhere near or never recognized.
It helps to have supportive art friends too who can see us, even when we are not feeling seen by the wider world. -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
Great stream, thank you both for sharing such relatable life experiences!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great topic, thanks for being the real deal 🥰
Thanks for this video I don’t know if anyone mentioned this, but it reminds me of the story of Philip Glass. From mentalfloss:
Said Glass in 2001: "While working, I suddenly heard a noise and looked up to find Robert Hughes, the art critic of TIME magazine, staring at me in disbelief. 'But you're Philip Glass! What are you doing here?' It was obvious that I was installing his dishwasher and I told him I would soon be finished. 'But you are an artist,' he protested. I explained that I was an artist but that I was sometimes a plumber as well and that he should go away and let me finish."
That is such a great quote!!!!! - Mia, Art Prof Staff
yep. Diagnosed with severe, life-long depression. Been "seeing" a therapist and taking meds.
Glad to hear you are working on taking care of yourself. ❤️ -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
@@artprof
Thank you. Trying to get back into drawing and writing. It seems to help.
As a successful working artist with 2 college degrees, I was working late one night Until that night art--FINE, graphic, Fibre, advertising, had become my only interest in life. Suddenly, my airway, lungs closed up--a,reaction to a food allergy. Fortunately, my LTR was home and called 911. The ambulance took me to the hospital where they saved my life. During my stay in the hospital I came to see there were more important things in life than art. I went for training in a medical career and would like to one day specialize in reconstructive surgery. I am sorry I wasted years doing something that was NEVER IMPORTANT
Wow, I'm really glad you ended up okay, that's really scary! -Lauryn, Art Prof Teaching Artist
Even though my work uses allegory and mythology to discuss political issues and personal experiences; mental health figures dominantly in my work. My paintings, sculptures, and installations are all about trauma, healing, ptsd, depression and anxiety. My use of mythological characters allow me some remove from the subject. The paintings aren't about my rape, they're about Dina or Persephone's rape. It allows my work to be more expansive than it would be if it was just about me.
I really wish that people would do artist lectured talking about everything and not just their success. It would be so intresting to hear instead of look at all these cool things I did. Also I thought of something worse than silence with art critiques which is when its so bad and you know it is but no one will say it. Everyone just compliments you and acts like you did fine but their compliments are so generic. Just oof
could you please make more streams related to mental health?
How about artists, who have went through abusive childhood, teachers and afraid of posting anything because of it?
We'll consider it! Try these 2 videos: Racism at Art School: czcams.com/video/_cORmIvsHMA/video.html and Art School Tea: When You Can’t Related to Your Art Professor: czcams.com/video/YrNwzuYtKkw/video.html -Prof Lieu
@@artprof Thank you! Though my case is a little bit different.
I had a traumatizing event in my life including the death of my parent, while being a teen studying at a prestige school by local standards , due to depression I have started to skip school a lot and teachers blamed mentally abused me in all ways possible, saying that my mother would have hated to see this (if she was alive) and I should get back to my Shitown.
Adding to that, in my country one really hateful and bitter, pathetic person who has started posting drawings of underaged kids without their consent only to heavily criticize , mostly unconstructive. Thus, a lot of youngster were either anxious (inclding me) to post anything online or join that collective bullying, hoping you are not going to be the next "discussed".
Usually, I am very skeptical of cancel culture, but when a 24+ something woman, who is ugly internally/externally, draws worse than those people whom she criticizes starts bullying kids on the Internet... I just snap out.
Like, imagine being the most pathetic female human being and throw your tantrum at kids, who are better than you , at least morally, only to redeem yourself by not allowing them to grow : p
I am currently recovering from anxiety and stuff, post things regularly and watch amazing videos from you. Hopefully, my comment will give you more insides.
I will probably message you tell even more for you to discuss, because I don`t have tea to spill, I have a tea pot collection...
I recommend joining our Discord Server, we have tons of conversations everyday about art, and you can post your work for critiques from our staff and other people too! Here is the invite link: discord.gg/g5XQRpT -Prof Lieu
Now add to this the challenge of being a “Boomer”...38 years and it only got harder with the advent of digital.
New technology can be so difficult to figure out, it's so complicated! - Mia Rozear, Art Prof Staff
how do you post to instagram from your laptop??
I think you can do that through various apps, but it's much easier to just use your phone! At least in my opinion :) - Mia, Art Prof Staff
Artists are stressed out because they're at odds with a public that A. doesn't respect and/or appreciate art, imagination and creativity in general and B. if they do accept the "art," it's only if it no longer is what the artist wants to generate and in the range of commercialism, watered down mainstream material instead.
Anyone who has worked on, studied or at least is in the know about corporate "art," movies, comic books, whatever, even books especially nowadays, have to be to some degree commercialized. It's not art, it's pandering, it's company executives and "the artist" trying to make the greedy bucks. This is too taboo of material, this crosses too much in what is sexual or violent because it crosses this and that obscenity guidelines, this presentation of the storyline or even the storyline itself, does not fall in line to commercialism expectations, this drama is too harsh, it's presented to visually gothic and blah, blah fucking blah with whatever complaints. True artists make what they want, not what the public wants. The public aren't the artists. The artist is. Consequently, obviously, the stipulation on the free soul of the artists work becomes very stressful, disheartening and depressing even.