An Ex-Monk On How To Pursue A Meaningful Life | Raghunath Cappo x Rich Roll
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- Rich sits down with Raghunath Cappo, a hardcore punk icon turned modern-day spiritual warrior and Bhakti yoga devotee, to talk about living a spiritual life, exploring principles of self-transcendence, Bhakti yoga, navigating ego and ambition, and more. To read more about Raghunath and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll829
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:31 Catching Up Since Last Episode: New Book, Podcasting
00:03:33 Preparing For A Trip To India
00:07:01 Cultural Differences Between India And America
00:09:24 Unraveling The Spiritual Essence In India
00:14:30 Navigating Personal Struggles And Spiritual Growth
00:16:24 Creating A Podcast For Personal Growth
00:17:53 Sharing Experiences And Vulnerability In Podcasts
00:18:42 The Mission Of Influencing The Universe
00:19:17 The Hero's Journey
00:20:11 Recovery And Self-Love
00:21:41 The Power Of Storytelling
00:22:55 Extending Love And Betrayal
00:24:49 Individual Agency And Consequential Change
00:26:33 Influencing Trajectories Of Life
00:28:16 Recognizing Messengers And Embracing Change
00:30:16 Sponsor Break
00:31:47 Back To Show
00:33:44 Choosing Light Over Darkness
00:37:37 Reincarnation And Refinement Of Choices
00:38:16 Bhakti Yoga And Spiritual Connection
00:40:48 The Transformative Power Of Kirtan
00:42:07 The Impact Of Sounds On Transformation
00:43:13 Vedic Mantras And Their Effects
00:44:45 The Significance Of Sounds And Spiritual Practices
00:46:17 Yoga And Self-Transcendence
00:47:49 Morning Rituals And Their Impact
00:56:06 Discipline And Spiritual Growth
01:01:02 Challenges In Personal Growth
01:03:00 Ego And Ambition
01:05:23 Facing Reversals
01:07:02 Spiritual Growth Through Adversity
01:07:40 Shifting Mindset
01:09:10 Influences In Life
01:16:24 Seeking Spiritual Truth
01:18:25 Connection With Spiritual Growth
01:20:53 Service Vs. Self-Glorification
01:22:55 Act Of Service
01:23:50 The Importance Of Setting Boundaries
01:24:35 The Strength In Prioritizing Sobriety
01:28:44 The Story Of A Dentist's Renouncement In India
01:35:51 The Significance Of Surrender And Destitution
01:40:37 Guidance For Embarking On A Spiritual Journey
01:44:18 Regulating The Senses
01:46:17 Closing Remarks
01:48:27 Credits
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Another great interview, Rich. I gotta ask, when are you going to have on fellow longtime 12-step recovery & Stoicism-practicing (as well as all around great guy) RFK Jr. on? I know he would do the show if you reached out to him. And as a longtime listener of your show, I believe it would be one of the best ones yet.
Yes, I'm a supporter of RFK Jr. In quick, random order, here's some of my reasons for supporting RFK Jr...
-genuinely wants to heal the 'culture war' divide in our country, and he has the ability to, being liked by many different 'types' of people from across the spectrum of issues and ideas, who are tired of the 2-party duopoly
-calm, humble, has integrity, has courage, truth seeker in general, thinks for himself (not a DNC/RNC puppet)
-not phony
-incorruptible, cannot be bought
-thoughtful and introspective
-deeply considers problems and possible solutions
-vocal about the corruption of 'Citizens United' and the power of the big private money controlling government
-vocal about putting an end to corporate capture over government (pharma, banks, oil, military industrial complex)
-wants to get us out of 'forever wars' and to pull back on and expose the corruption within the military industrial complex
-wants to pull back NATO and resolve the Ukraine problem via negotiations
-vocal about the dishonesty and agendas of commercial media
-wants to abolish all pharmaceutical advertisements on television (this has major influence on the 'news' narratives)
-wants to keep the pharmaceutical industry honest with safety testing, transparency, etc
-wants to get rid of government assist crony capitalism and subsidies for big ag, oil, etc
-advocate for civil liberties
-vocally against censorship (will free Snowden and Assange on 'day 1')
-against mandates and police state-like policies
-classical liberal sensibilities with respect of others (without the 'woke' or fake identity politics)
-vocal commitment to transparency regarding FBI, CIA, NSA over-stepping and out-stepping
-passionate about environmental and ecological concerns
-passionate about investing in regenerative farming practice
-passionate about cleaning our food supply and exposing the unhealthy ingredients in processed 'foods'
-wants to bring preventative health more into public discourse; nutrition, exercise, etc
-will immediately close the border (this is not some republican scare issue, it is a very major issue - for many reasons)
-will send the necessary Asylum Judges to the border to expedite the process for legal migrants
-has an excellent plan to make homes affordable for all, including a program that backs mortgages at 3% and a tax structure to keep Black Rock from continuing to buy everyone out (this also will bring rent costs down dramatically)
-due to his family/background, he's well-learned from the inside of the various power structures
-due to his decades as an attorney successfully taking on major corporations, as well as government regulatory corruption, he is exceptionally well-suited for taking on the myriad of corporate capture over our government
*I wrote the list above many months before Oct 7, 2023. I should add, especially directed towards my brothers and sisters of the populist 'left' and populist 'right', 'progressives', 'libertarians', and people who are just antiwar, in general...
-RFK Jr. is in support of Israel (as am I). However, this in *no* way means he isn't also in support of helping the innocent people within Gaza. RFK Jr. has always been very aware of the conditions for the people within Gaza, and is especially aware of, and feels deep heartache for, the Hell they are living in now. As President, he is a person who would do all he could to help seek lasting peace and prosperity for all in the region
-although RFK Jr. is a supporter of Israel, he is not a fan of Netanyahu, and has said repeatedly that he would *not* be writing him a blank check with American dollars to do with as he wishes
-there is no one who would fight harder or more tirelessly to reach out to everyone involved, as well as to leaders outside of the region, to try to negotiate and implement a sustainable peaceful solution for both the Israelis and the Palestinians. RFK Jr. would bring many ideas and a commitment to approaching the problem there from several different angles, and involving several other players. In fact, he would have been doing this before Oct. 7. (Simply yelling 'apartheid', 'genocide', etc is *not* in service of an actual *solution* - ask Hamas)
-and unlike anyone from the 2 major parties who supports Israel, RFK Jr. would never be lead by the corrupt (and disgusting) sheer financial interests of the Military Industrial Complex when it comes to *any* of America's foreign policy; including with Israel
"If you want self worth, you must act in a worthy way." Noted.
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This has become one of my all time favorite podcast. Listening it again after taking 3 days to finish it. Was rewinding it over and over and trying to listen through my busy day.
Ray is a solid spirit soul who has transmitted so many powerful transcendent messages through his music, words, and acts. With my limited interactions with him, he’s been nothing but giving and kind. His new book is tremendous. Go buy it.
Obstacles taught me to not fight them but accept them as my own reminder of evolution for myself . The more I was fighting the less I was becoming myself . And yes I had less but this less was profoundly rewarding in a sense of appreciation. Thank you for this amazing episode.❤
The bolder in your path is not an obstacle, it is the path.
Wisdom of the Sages is an amazing podcast! Please invite Kaustubha Das on the podcast, it would be such a great and inspiring conversation. Thank you!
This went straight to my heart Gentlemen. Thank you. Always good stuff Rich.
Tears throughout this post, an incredible rebirth in every sentence, I am ok with good, but thriving into great for my spiritual energy heart encompassment 🎉
Raghunath Cappo ki jay!
What I love about Raghunath "Ray of Today" is how he made it okay to be spiritual within the hard core community and the world. He got me back on the path.
From PUNK to MONK💖🙏🫡
A powerful interview. Thank you.
This is really solid stuff! I really resonate with this guest because I lost my father when I was a young 7. And at the end of the day my entire life I've struggled feeling out of place, but it wasn't that I was wrong, it's just that I got an understanding at an earlier age than most, wearing my heart on my sleeve and realizing the importance of every moment, where as in the United States it's not that way. It led me to feeling very shameful when I was younger, but since, have embraced my truth through my spirituality and have a depth that is comforting to myself as well as those around me. I found that life is about being the instrument more than it is, being the best at playing that instrument, with outside validators being the referee if that makes sense.
Check out his Podcast- wisdom of the sages
Helpful and very informative podcast that feeds my soul and makes me reflect things in my life. Thank you both! 🤗 ❤
I hadn't heard of Raghunath until very recently. I am so thankful that God brought me to this interview and that I am getting the chance to look into everything this wonderful, beautiful person has done and said! This interview was absolutely incredible! Hare Krsna
@1:20:00 or so, ephiphiny and the student teaching the teacher. The dance of life. TY ❤BTW Love the earth tour tee! Fabulous show, it was very moving and resonated.
Love to you all…..
❤️♥️💖🙏🏼❤️♥️💖
Thank you for this beautiful soul 🙏💞💯🥳💃🏼
This is going to be GOOD! Can't wait- thank you both! Love from Austria!
Ahhhhhhhh so good, Rich!
So good! 😍 can’t wait to read the book!!!
From Punk to Monk to Punk. The ultimate purpose of life by Raghu and the vedic philosophy. Excellent interview, Rich.
Oh, my gosh, this conversation is a feast for the mind and spirit! Thank you so much, Rich! Can't wait to buy and read his book. ❤
Thank you Rich for inviting Ragunath to your podcast again! The first podcast helped me find the path again and I'm forever grateful for that.
Raghunaths podcast is called 'wisdom of the sages' just in case anyone is looking for it.
Hare Krishna 🙏🏽
Dr. Alok Kanojia, the CEO and face of the CZcams channel HealthyGamer, would be a phenomenal guest to piggy back on many of these ideas. He mainly studied and followed Raja Yoga, the Yogic path of Meditation, and has really well formulated ideas on what happiness, suffering, contentment, detachment, and duty are. I can't recommend him enough!
If anyone is interested, I have a public CZcams playlist on my channel called 'Spirituality' that my favorite videos on this topic saved
I love Dr K! ❤️ 🎉 He's starting to do more podcasts now...Rich should definitely have him on. He's also a Harvard Psychiatrist MD, in addition to what u noted
Very inspiring conversation. My own path to knowledge and growth has been enhanced by the conversations between Rich and guests like this man. Any wisdom that uplifts and enlightens is gold. When it's also delivered by a couple of real human smart guys, telling the truth, it's also palatable and captivating. p.s. It's not wrong or selfish to love the gifts bestowed upon you by God and your ancestors, and cultivated by you, that enhance your sense of self. If we are expressions of God, aren't we encouraged to love our own beauty and accomplishments, as we love God and as we love the same things in others? I love the music I create, fully aware that it comes through me from sources beyond my human limitations, and is then crafted by my human instrument, which I have honed with discipline and commitment.
Ragu got me started on the path. Thankful for his presence in the world 🙏
Next life in this life. As a recovering heroin addict thank god for those!
I always love talks with Raghunath. He's a cool dude! Thanks Rich for another great talk!!!🙏
Raghunath Prabhu and Rich Roll, what an incredible duo
This is quite possibly the most profound interview of which there have been many before.
Thank you so much! This inspired me. I put the book on my wish list for my birthday! What really resonated was the idea that sometimes you have to lose something in order to gain something. It was like in Chess and the gambit position. Awesome show as always! Shared.
this episode was incredible. raghunath's presence is very calming to me and everything he says resonates but also inspires me more
Great interview. Raghunath is a powerhouse of wisdom snd fun and Wisdom of the Sages is a life-changing podcast.
Loved it.
I found the exploration of 'ego' particularly intriguing. I can relate to experiencing heightened levels of upset at times, despite knowing it's disproportionate. It's almost comical how much it can sting, knowingly. While it occurs less frequently now, it's still a familiar occurrence. To seek understanding, I've delved deeply into the reasoning behind it. Furthermore, I refrain from labeling it as wrong. After all, getting upset or hurt is a human emotion, varying in intensity from person to person. It's something we should acknowledge and accept.
The real skill lies in how swiftly one can move past it. For me, in about 90% of cases, it takes just a few hours or a good night's sleep. Our thoughts have the power to influence our hormonal balance. However, it still lingers in the back of my mind for a while, especially when life falls into a routine. Yet, it gradually fades over time.
However, there are occasions when a particular episode lingers longer in our consciousness, repeatedly resurfacing. Here's my perspective on why this happens: Unlike monks or spiritual practitioners, who lead a secluded spiritual life and interact with seekers who come to them for guidance, people like you and me live in the real world, striving to make a positive impact on society. We actively engage with the world, pouring in passion, dedication, hard work, discipline, and a spiritual mindset. Consequently, by choosing to contribute positively to society, we inherently expose ourselves to vulnerability. We will inevitably face hurt, to varying degrees. Conversely, if we were to embrace an ashram lifestyle today, we would be shielded from such hurt.
The bottom line is that adopting a resilient attitude doesn't diminish our spiritual depth. In the real world, our patience is continually tested. This is why even spiritual leaders can experience upset when dealing with the complexities of the world. Therefore, ego plays a crucial role in navigating the challenges of real-world living while maintaining a spiritual outlook.
Keep doing the great work.
Warm regards
KEEP GOING!
Rich, you have the best podcast in the entire universe. P.S. The smart watch doesn't fit your personality, wear a classic watch, a white G-Shock, like you did years ago. We love you.
The Maya guitar guy wanted to be convinced back to spirituality…what made him introduce his past? Love this
I got so much from this conversation ❤
thankyou monk for such good words about my country❣❣
Thanks for having Ray on! I was glued the entire time!
This guy sounds a lot like Joe Dispenza!!! 🙌❤️
Your promo videos are always really well done. Whoever puts them together is really good.
Great talk, great guy. Thanks
Cant wait to read the book
Respect Raghunath.
And of course, to you Rich, really enjoyed this one.
I saw Shelter play in Brooklyn back in 1995. I must have been the tallest guy in the crowd because he jumped off the stage and grabbed my face in mid air. I tossed him into the crowd. It was awesome 😂
Lot of nuggets in this talk. Thanks much! Hari bol!
So helpful. Thank you.
Beautiful, this really spoke to me. Thank you 🙏
Awesome podcast! Thank you!
Lord I come to you asking for your blessings as a single mom because I’m losing faith. I’m raising my children with courage, despite the challenges I face. Both of my sons are special needs and require so much from me. Lord give me strength as I struggle to pay my rent every month and as I struggle to buy groceries for my children I’m ashamed Lord help me. I ask that you bless me with your wisdom and guidance, as I navigate parenthood on my own.
Sending ❤ xxx
Sending you love and emotional support for your challenging situation.
I'm the child of a single mom and I could not be prouder. She still struggles, but she is my original definition of strength. Sending love💕
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Your much stronger than you realize. This is the time to dig your heals in. Your being tested. Keep going, you got this! Lord take special care of this heart. You are worthy
Rich, pls have Dr K (Harvard Psychiatrist who was also an Indian monk) on ur show. He has a yt channel called HealthyGamer where he reaches out to young generations
great talk. thanks for this.
Thank you again and again deep and glorious 🙏🏽
The diversity in the human family should be the cause of love and harmony, as it is in music where many different notes blend together in the making of a perfect chord. If you meet those of a different race and colour from yourself, do not mistrust them and withdraw yourself into your shell of conventionality, but rather be glad and show them kindness.
‘Abdu’l-Bahá, Advent of Divine Justice, p.32, Baha'i Faith
This is an amazing interview 😊❤
This is 🔥
A great interview covering Raghunath's journey & shared wisdom in this life. Check out his new book, "From Punk To Monk", as well as the daily podcast he co-hosts with Kaustubha das, called 'Wisdom of the Sages'.
That was terrific!
I've been following your podcast for some time now, and I must say, it's quite impressive. Your discussions cover a wide range of topics, which I find very engaging.
I wanted to suggest the idea of inviting Jerry Sargeant, the founder of Star Magic, to be a guest on your show. His expertise in spiritual healing could bring a unique perspective that I believe your audience would appreciate. Just a thought to consider.
So true thank you
David Cross killed it in this episode!
❤ such a fab podcast! Raghunath inspires me so much ❤
Having been a martial artist for many years, he's actually mistaken in his claim that martial artists don't come from rage.Many martial artists scuplt and use their rage and passion simply a fuel, it depends what you do with it. "One cannot give away what one does not possess" He claims to be a master, he has lots of information, which should not be confused with actual wisdom.
This discussion made a recent experience worth including here. I had a rough day following the close out of my dad’s estate. For whatever reason, I convinced myself that closing out his estate would put an end to my mourning. I’m work oriented so this makes sense on some level. But that's not how the world works. So, to make myself feel better, I watched a variety of NDEs on CZcams. If you watch enough of them, you see that there are themes. One included that many people who die and come back have a period where all of their questions are answered. After watching a bunch of these, I decided to write a journal entry connecting my grief to the questions that I'd ask God if given the opportunity.
Much of what I said was more strident than my natural tendency. I figured, I'm emotional and all the NDEs reflect a God who knows us completely, so why buffer things? One of the questions, among many, was why don’t we treat our elders with more loving kindness. Of all the questions that I wrote, this was the only one that I paused over. My strident questions asked whether God was even there, whether God sends signs, and if so, “why so subtle!” The last was my most assertive of the group.
I wrote that and a while later I went to dinner. I sat at a local bar where they had Chive TV on. There I was having just sat down, and on the television screen began a lengthy compilation of people being loving to elderly people.
Love you guys❤
That’s exactly what you’re feeling, Rich Roll, you’re transitioning from गृहस्थ Gṛhastha to a वानप्रस्थ Vānaprastha.
RAY RULES
Thank you
I don't believe in astrology but loved the talk overall.
"WISDOM OF THE SAGES" is Ragunaths Podcast..
The material world prunes away at our secondary identities. In time this happens to us all. Those who know who they are spiritually, are the resilient ones
Live life in harmony with yourself .
It is not secret .
Love Raghunath
Raghu!! 🧡🧡👏👏
What if you just don't care anymore😢
“ When going through hell, just KEEP GOING!!
There’s a great plan for you my friend 😍❤️
a stoic
I feel ya. I’ve been there. The mind can be a dark place at times, but nothing lasts forever - good or bad. Keep going, do your best and things will get better.
@KCinspireME I've been waiting over 50 years for things to get better. They actually have gotten worse, especially in the last few years. But thanks anyway.
YASSSSS 👍👍
money=happines
Wisdom of the Sages daily podcast is my rock and my rudder and keeps me on track all day, every day with genuine heartfelt spiritual wisdom and a good dose of entertainment and humour - Love you guys so much! www.youtube.com/@WisdomoftheSages ...and thanks to Rich Roll, so expert at drawing out the nectar !
Fun!! But I can't find the book offer in the notes. 😉🤙🏽🌺Mahalo
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Hi Rich, you mentioned Eddie Bravo, Joe Rogan, jiu-jitsu. Do you currently or before do jiu-jitsu?
Even the body I had 20 years is completely gone, every cell of it.
Why the marriage didnt work?
I love Raghu, it's always kinda shattering to hear him speak. Something I always prickle against tho, why does God need us to 'serve' it? That's never made sense to me
Hey Rich,
You're going to McLeod Ganj; have a fine time... 😊 we are big on India 🇮🇳. You're going to love it; any place in India is fantastic... some of the best places aren't famous, just real life.
Rich, get into this... move away from western propaganda; Honestly, the way you talk shows that you are way off from understanding the meaning of this. I mean this in the most friendly way.
I know you're going to the Dali Lamma...that's great, but a simple monk in bodgaya is probably more suitable for you, Rich: when you first start learning the violin, you don't need Richard Wagner as your teacher, hehehe. That's your ego, Rich. Get real...
That's a great podcast... excellent.
"A buck fifty soakin wet with crystal in my pocket." 💥🙏🏼
People have to realize relationships are NO different than any other learned skills or LEARNED sprituality. You MUST LEARN HOW to do relationships so they are enhanced .If you think you DON'T have to learn how to do them well you are seriously lacking in intelligence. It's NOT a wing it life skill.
Does anyone know of resources that may help a teen in understanding mindfulness and health that are targeted or speak to teens. I need the Rich Roll for teens person! I was just hoping there might be teen channels that are healthy and positive too.
civilized man!
lets listen to some old shelter songs 🤟
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Sadly, I've no interest in the Dali Lama, as he still thinks animal cruelty is ok.
Gay
Nope. No gurus. Going to see the Dalai Lama? Seriously? Yuk.
so the great reset coming in the next year or 2 is to prune, ok got it.
This guy is rad. I adore that you can still hear and feel the New York coming through him while framing his spiritual experiences and teachings.