Safety: Starting to Airbrush Part 2
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- Airbrush safety is an important thing to think about when you're beginning to airbrush. Atom talks about the potential dangers to airbrushing and what you can do.
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I use to be a house painter. When you use your respirator, if you store it in something air tight, like a resealable plastic bag, the filter cartridges will last considerably longer. You will also know the carriages need to be changed when you can "taste" the fumes when you put on the mask.
+Leisure Time Games That's good to know. Thanks for watching!
Also note that facial hair does prevent a full seal with a respirator forming on your face. The only facial hair you can have that won't interfere with forming a tight enough seal is a mustache. Also if you have respiratory or heart issues it may not be safe for you to wear a respirator. I work in pest control and I can guarantee you the difference of a complete, and tight seal vs. a seal with facial hair can be way more impactful than you may think.
@@VinceTheBadASS Yeah I looked into this, and even 1-day stubbles will interfere significantly! It sucks, but safety first right
Cheers for the tip 🙏 my resin printer mask is starting to smell like it when I put it on.
"Let's say it's post apocalyptic..." Little did he know post-pandemic mask shortages would be a thing. Watching in 2020 and wondering if I can even get anything at the store.
Lol Im in the same boat
He should get inot investing lol
Yuuuup
They are back in stores.
After painting a Baneblade by hand, that was what finally made me realize “I need an airbrush”
I've been looking into getting an airbrush set up and these videos are really helpful. Thanks for the quality uploads!
+Cerberusarms What up, D?! Still painting Blood Angels?
+Cerberusarms There will be more coming. Thanks for watching!
SDub I finished my Blood Angels a couple months ago. All of them! Something I thought I'd never say. I'm working on a Vampire Counts AoS army, they're all built and primed just need to paint them.
a trick : you can watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.
@Ares Micah Definitely, have been using flixzone for years myself =)
Great video. I'm surprised so many other content creators promote using an airbrush, but never mention anything regarding safety.
I have an earlier model of one of those cheap amazon spray booths (without lights) and like it very much. There is enough airflow that you can see the paint getting sucked into the filter. I don't even wear a respirator anymore, because it's so good.
Full disclosure: I only use acrylics.
I only use acrylics, too. Thanks for watching!
"Lets say its post apocalyptic, and all you have left now is just one of those 3m paper things" Guess I won't be getting anything at all. Time to die from airbrush paint.
Yeah I am watching it now and it's a lot less funny
Real 😓
This video has aged well
My thoughts exactly revisiting the video today :D
Flo #23 I was able to backorder a NASUM mask on amazon and then it shipped when it was back in stock for anyone that’s looking! I don’t think it has the same certifications as a 3m but it seems pretty solid.
I don't airbrush, I don't play table top games, but I like learning about things and comedy. This is really gold!
I'm a beginner airbrusher and while I was airbrushing my kitten was very curious about the airbrush and came to check it out. A few minutes later he was gagging outside the room. Safety tip: keep cats away from airbrush!
That sounds bad. Hope he's okay. Thanks for watching!
YOU WERE AIRBRUSHING YOUR KITTEN?!This was why punctuation was made haha.
That was my exact thought, I was like JESUS I HOPE THIS IS SARCASM!
safety tip, don't hold down your cat and spray your airbrush up it's nose ;) just kidding
I read "I was airbrushing my kitten" and was horrified for a second. 😅
I’m a tradesman and use these types of masks on a daily, just want to let you know that wearing a face fit mask like this it needs to have a proper seal on the face, having a beard can prevent the mask from sealing properly and can make the mask significantly less effective. With paints this probably won’t matter just letting people know.
That's good to know. Thanks Luke. Which mask do you prefer?
I want to add, if you use this type, clean your mask properly.
Thanks Atom! This answered several questions I had, especially in regards to the paint dust.
+Shane Flickinger Glad to help. Thanks for watching!
Looking to get into airbrushing, and these videos are GREAT. Also, that Amazon Paint Booth is AWESOME. I have one, and use it with rattle cans in the garage all the time.
Thank you. I am looking to get started airbrushing. Spent the last 40 years as a wet painter/powder coater and then supervisor. I have used many types of guns, torn them down and rebuilt them. Looking forward to a new hobby.
Great video! Thank you! It answered all the questions I had about airbrushing.
Subscribed! You crack me up dude. Thanks for these videos
1:20 I've been totally waiting for you to say this in one of your airbrushing videos. Cracked me up as expected, second only to "did I just rap"? BTW, definitely the correct word. Safety is a very important step I see often skipped in airbrushing. Though non-toxic, it's not a good idea to inhale the paint! I also picked up a painting booth (can be made cheap, but bought one for a decent price) and it works great at ventilating paint even in small spaces. I've seen several people with facial hair, using respirators just fine. Though the bigger the beard the harder it is to make a seal, for sure. Not a pro, by any means - still a novice but just what I've picked up over the last little bit. Keep the videos coming! :)
I'm still thinking about the paint booth, myself. Thanks for watching!
Fantastic advice - greatly appreciated, thanks!
Great video again as always. I'd like to add it is worth knowing that it is safer to use airbrush paints than regular paints. They can get away with using certain types of pigments in brush paints like cadmium. But cadmium in the air is incredibly toxic and is known to cause lung cancer. So using those masks and proper ventilation and the right paints can be the most important thing you could choose to do. Not just for your self but also those around you.
+FSDraconis I thought cadmium was pretty expensive now and most miniatures paint manufacturers weren't using it much anymore, but I could be wrong. Thanks for watching!
+Tabletop Minions The danger is that not everyone who is painting miniatures is using miniatures paints. Let alone airbrush paints. You can still go to hobby stores to buy fine artists paints and get a great volume for the same price as buying Games Workshop standard paints. Where cadmium, arsenic sulfide, mercury sulfide and other toxic pigments are ok in a paste form but when atomized into the air their toxicity jumps into the really really unhealthy category. Airbrush paints are usually designed to be atomized and potentially breathed in at least in small volumes with out bringing about major health concerns. The more we know about the tools we use as an artist. The better we do at being safe, having fun, and improving our skills. Thank you again for doing these videos.
Great information about protecting oneself from airbrush overspray! Around 20 yrs ago in college, I was heavy into using airbrush for illustration on board (before digital caught up in quality) for about 5 years. Until I got a professional spray booth and a good mask, I would have pigment color in my nostrils after painting for hours, and sometimes could even feel it on the back of my throat. The main impetus for my purchasing better protection was reading testimonials in art magazines from other artists who had developed COPD from years and years of airbrushing without protection. (Some folks may remember the airbrush booths in malls back in the day, where artists would paint custom tees...do they still do that anywhere??) Those acrylic particles can somewhat amass over time, building up in your lungs, and can cause serious problems. It's plastic particulates, after all. Anyway, I'm starting to get into painting miniatures, and excited that I kept all my killer Iwata airbrushes and gear, and even my old Artograph spray booth. I'll be using that soon. P.S. I totally enjoy your videos! Keep up the great work!
interesting. My father did airbrush commercial art for like 30 years and never once saw him use a mask or any booths. He's fine.
Another decomplication video, thanks for the share. Particulates still enter your body through your eyes.
There are nothing more important then safety! ...I'll always Remind me that famous quote: "Before we use any power tools, let's take a moment to talk about shop
safety. Be sure to read, understand, and follow all the safety rules
that come with your power tools. Knowing how to use your power tools
properly will greatly reduce the risk of personal injury. And remember
this: there is no more important safety rule than to wear these - safety
glasses." ...And when airbrushing, always protecting our lungs! ;)
+Monte Cristo I only have the one set of lungs, so I try to protect them. Thanks for watching!
When that 'fuzzy' comes in and fucks with your shit
Thanks for the excellent series. I am considering getting into airbrushing. You give a lot of great tips. Cheers from a fellow cheesehead in LaCrosse!
Glad to help, and hello from the other side of the state. Thanks for watching!
Fun and informative as always 👍🏻
Hey. great vid, i got the sparyboot you talk about, and i love it.
Cool, I should think about getting one of those myself, perhaps. Thanks for watching!
Another great video. Thank you for posting info about safety. Vallejo-paints (and probably other labels) contains cadmium. Do your research. You don't want those particles in your lungs. Peace out :)
Done a bit of basecoating with a siphon style airbrush now getting into a gravity fed version and I am re watching all of these videos to get ready.
Building a hobby shed in the back garden and supplying electricity will not be a problem. Also planning to use pretty much just acrylics. With that in mind do you suppose I would be okay with a ventilator mask and the occasional hand vac of the area to get rid of particulate? Great vid as always!
Excellent video and thankyou so much and as I am now going through my 2nd case of cancer and I also have heart failure as well as grade 4 severe kidney infection, I decided to get myself the vented spray booth (which you show here) and I've connected it to the tumble drier vent in the outside wall, I wear a GVS HALF MASK WITH NUISANCE ODOUR FILTERS P3, goggles as I have an eye condition called Posterior Blepharitis.
Yes, I also have the Iwata wash out jar and I do wear latex gloves and I only use Acrylics. BUT unless someone is going through cancer for the second time like I am, well it kind of makes you worry... I hope you can appreciate my concerns rather than the overkill.
Hello Bass, I hope you have recovered from your 2nd case of cancer.
@@BorderedBook I’ve been in remission now for the past year, so many thanks for your kind question. However my wife has breast cancer and she had surgery three days ago and is coping well, so I’m helping her to stay strong 👍
Once again many thanks for your very kind thoughts which are much appreciated 😊
huhu thx a lot you make Good vid´s !
and a nice tipp is Spraying Ink´s through an airbrush, just mix them 1 part paint 2 parts Destillit water and kick the pressure a littel bit!
I'll have to try it out. Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much for this video, you are one of the very very few people that paint minis and actually care or research about the dangers of atomized paint for the lungs.
Good solid advice. Thanks a lot, you are my go-to guy for hobby info :)
Always glad to help. Thanks for watching!
i got what i came for, it was funny and it was nice to listen to, great video!
I got that type of mask by 3M for airbrushing, the filters have to be replaced after x hours usage and the mask should be stored away in an airtight container / bag I heard. I also got that airbrush box kit although my version didn't come with a light, it's ok, the tube at the back has to be screwed in which is a pain if you're opening it up and storing it away for later use.
+Dave Dogge I'm still thinking about getting that airbrush hood. Thanks for watching!
A N95 paper respirator, like the first one you show, is good for...get this 95% of the air borne particulates, and should be great for acrylics. a half face cartridge filter with an "organic vapor" cartridge is great for enamels and lacquers. If you get a half face, for organics, get a cartridge with a hepa pre-filter. Also, facial hair and scars can effect proper fit of any respirator. I used to do industrial hygiene. As another poster stated, storage of the mask and filters is important. A large zip lock is great as long as you clean the outside of the mask prior to putting away. Otherwise, the particulates on the outside can fall inside the mask and you end up breathing them.
Oh, and find a good video on checking the seal of both types of respirators. Like what you're doing.
Atom these vids r great!
Great vid!! Thanks!!
I love your sense of humour.
+PsiSoldier I glad to hear it. Thanks for watching!
Awesome shirt! I like that this video, and the previous both feature boba fett
I do have a lot of Boba Fett shirts for reasons. Thanks for watching!
You'll put a description in the link below? :P
If you are lucky enough to do it outside im sure that just solves all of these problems. I have yet to get a airbrush setup since for money reasons and apartment reasons, but I want one sooo hard.
+PhazeKnight74 They're really great, I have to admit. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the vid on airbrushing. Always enjoy the dry humor emensly. Would love to see more how air brush vids if you the chance. On a separate note....what's your take on kickstarter miniature games?
I'll be doing more airbrush videos soon. As for Kickstarter, I've backed several, and they can be dicey. Especially for store owners. I'm glad it can get some new minis lines started, but other than Mantic, there haven't been tons of them that have extended too far out after the initial campaign. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for a useful video. Just got a spray booth and wonder if a respirator mask really is needed in conjunction with that, or if I can get away with just using that? ;)
Question regarding use in an apartment (in which I would like to get my safety deposit back): I’m planning on picking up a spray booth like you recommended, but setting it up immediately next to a window will be problematic for me. If I use only acrylics, will the filter catch the particles by itself, or does the exhaust really need to be directed directly outside to not destroy my lungs and place of living? Thanks!
this is perfect! I just got an air brush and I haven't even used it yet cause Idk the safety issues haha thank your so much!!!
Glad to help. Thanks for watching!
Your mid video pause to look at the fluffy made me laugh. Love the videos
Thanks .. I had just bought that local extraction device you pictured .. for the lights and the exhaust. I wear a beard and so can’t effectively wear a respirator.
Hi Uncle Atom! Just looking at getting into air-brushing for the first time; When you talk about particulate dust, is this a thing that, like, adheres to a surface? I know if I did rattlecan spraying indoors my mum would kill me because the paint would settle on the floor/walls while wet, and I'd literally be spray painting the house. But if this airbrush dust you're talking about just settles but doesn't stick, that seems like a minor annoyance at worst. This is why we research beforehand!
You should really make an airbrush playlist.
You have a lot of Boba Fett shirts. I saw Star Wars before.
I have a tiny apartment and a tiny puppy so I'll need one of those fancy spray booth things so as to keep both.
1. Fantastic shirt!
2. How much is a lot of paint in reference to eating it?
Have to say, airbrush is actually quite dangerous for lung health, N95 won’t work, you will need to find a mask for paint specifically. I really surprised only 4 videos on YT talking about this.Thank you sir
I will likely never switch to airbrushing, but this has been helpful in knowing the struggles of my airbrushing fellows. :P
I only use a mask when spraying metallics.
Otherwise unless you're a pro painter spraying daily, it's not to big of a deaaaaaaa.....
(Sorry Jason has dropped dead)
+Jay Tick Noooooooooooooooooooooooo! Thanks for watching!
+Tabletop Minions... this response is epic. I know "thanks for watching" is your usual tag, BUT it's even better in this context.
"My friend has dropped dead! NOOOOOOO!, well thanks anyways for watching whle you were alive".
i got one of those pots with the filters on it, and i put two filters instead of the single one that it recommended and i can still see a lot of fumes coming out of it, how can i solve this? are there better filters i can buy specifically for the cleaning pot?
Very informative
Where do you get all your cool shirts- aside from the event shirts anyway?
3:00 that hit different
Where do you get your shirts? They’re awesome
Good video on airbrush safety, Atom! Will look at a better mask as I was just using the cheap masks. I would suppose this would be good to use when using rattle cans too? Respectfully, Gunny
+Ron Dillie Certainly. Keeps the extra paint out of your nose. Thanks for watching!
Would airbrushing outside on a balcony work? Or would wind be an issue?
I do a lot of plastic modeling, mostly gundam since I don’t necessarily need to paint them to get a good looking model, but I’ve really wanted to get a much more expensive one for a while and go high effort, but I live in a small apartment with not a load of free space, Back when I was still in school I had access to a spray booth and nice air compressors and brushes to work with and I spent a lot of time painting in there, and I really want to get back into it, but I’m not sure where to start, there is a small space in my bedroom at a corner next to a window I might be able to put a booth in and I wanted to know what you’re recommendation would be. If I should take the leap or not.
This is gonna sound like such a weird comment, but I have to say it. You have a really kind face,
The video is great, and super informative, but I just wanted to drop that little piece of info real quick!
I cannot figure out if Mister Hobby paints are lacquer or not...
Your sweater and the background line up to cut the screen in half. Dig it
My mom got me the paint u paint your walls with yesterday on a scale of 1 to 10 how bad can it hurt my airbrush
Very old video but I have a question, if acrylic paint through an airbrush is generally ok then why are acrylic rattle cans a big no no? Silly question maybe but its confusing
I don't know why your videos are so damn funny to me.
You don’t necessarily have to buy a more expensive respirator. A half face is still good. It’s all dependent on the type of filter. Depending on the type of fumes and time of exposure you can use a carbon filter or I would just use a P100 type filter because it’s more universal. A N95 is fine too if you don’t plan on working for long periods at a time. Just has to say NIOSH of the filter.
Old comment but you kinda do if you use solvent paints and lacquer and things you don't want to expose your eyes either
Thanks!
The paint doesnt get atomized you creat earosoles lighter than air. Cholera is a deasis that confides in earosoles. If you breath it in you can get minimale paint in your blood. A good idea is to breath through your nose so your nosehairs absorbe the paint partecles. The blowout jars are awesome some come with a little filter. Hope i could help with explanetion about earosoles and sorry for the bad english not my first languege
good video and tips, sadly ive been airbrushing for years, and say these same things to others, but dont do it my self half the time =/
+ta24u It's a good idea to protect yourself, man. Thanks for watching!
I assume a cardboard carton isn’t quite enough as a spray booth if you’re just working with acrylics?
When you say that the paint is "atomized", do you mean by Uncle Atom? :)
+Alexandre Janiak Indeed. I believe that's how it works. Thanks for watching!
I think that it is a good point to raise so early on in your series and responsible of you to do so. I am a paint chemist by background and sell into this industry in the UK. There is a big debate going on in the chemistry world as to the level of carcinogenicity of titanium dioxide powder when inhaled (when dispersed it would appear to behave differently though).
www.chemistryworld.com/news/european-chemicals-body-links-titanium-dioxide-to-cancer/3007557.article
Most paints will have titanium dioxide in, as a tint at least. I'm not sure what droplet size you get upon atomisation (will depend on rheology, coating chemistry and spray pressure) but I'm imagining they are quite fine (10's of microns?). Thus, with such a high surface area, this will start to dry up pretty quickly in the air.
I'm not one to fearmonger but I think that - regardless of the actuality - for £10 it is better to be safe! It is still under debate as far as I'm aware so there are two schools of thought on this topic. It does make sense though, given that titanium dioxide is a photocatalytic material capable of generating free radicals - themselves harmful to DNA. Not all grades of TiO2 are photocatalytic though. There are of course other components in the paint like mineral oils (defoamer), siloxanes (wetting and dispersing), biocides etc. that will also be harmful if inhaled on a regular basis. Anyway, ramble over.
For what it's worth, my father was a commercial artist for over 30 years. his tool of trade (among other things) was an airbrush that saw heavy use daily. I've never once seen him or any airbrush artist (they are extinct now due to computers) use masks or any other major respirators. Not even a spray booth. Just an artists table and spray.
Never had any issues with his lungs. He was of course mainly using acrylic paints though through the airbrush.
Thanks just starting out with airbrushing
And now you made me sad, because my appartment is really small and I can wear a respirator mask but my cats can't. Maybe I'll clean up some space in the communal basement.
+Pawel Piwnicki Tiny respirator masks for cats would be adorable. Someone should make those. Thanks for watching!
I highly recommend a spray booth when airbrushing.
+KentuckyFriedGamers It sounds like a good idea. Thanks for watching!
thank you for the vid
+Abel Castillo You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
I bought everything for less than $35 at home depot to build my own spray booth with exhaust fan, and a light. I used a Styrofoam type of 4x8 sheet they carry for insulation. The sheet was under 10 dollars, a cheap generic exhaust fan 10 dollars, a battery operated light 10, and the exhaust tube 4 bucks. The best part is I made it the size I wanted, and the reflective inner surface helps keep everything lit up. I actually can cut the sheet with a hobby knife. No way anyone should spend 100 dollars on a booth.
Saved my lungs thank you!
"I'll put a description in the link below"
Whenever i use a 3m respirator mask for airbrushing theninaode of my nose develops bloody booger crust that takes over a week to heal. Is my mask not working right, or is it causing these small nosebleeds?
Maybe you’re allergic to materials in the mask? I’m not sure. Maybe talk to your doctor? Thanks for watching!
Hi question where did you buy Your respirator from?
Harbor Freight, I believe. Thanks for watching!
how important is it to have the ventilation hose stick out the window?
For airbrushing, not that important. If you use rattlecan in the house, then it's very important. Thanks for watching!
Tabletop Minions thx man!
Laquar give wicked headaches I had to get a respirator to counter it I used to give my Necrons a shiny look
Just a note about the face mask. Your facial hair prevents it from properly sealing to your face. You won't get a full protection if you are unshaven. Glad to see a video promoting some safety concerns.
How are you getting a good seal when wearing the mask wiith that magnificent beard Uncle Atom?
+EngineerJeff Well, it IS Acrylic paint, not mustard gas.
+EngineerJeff I usually shave just before airbrushing and then the beard grows back by the time I'm done for the night. It's helpful. Thanks for watching!
when is the next airbrushing video coming out?
Soonish. Thanks for watching!
+Tabletop Minions I just bought a airbrush and I'm really excited to use it, keep up the great videos!
what is wargame consortium?
As far as safety masks though it must also be said that unless you are clean shaven (no facial hair around where the mask sits) the safety mask doesn't completely protect you.
Have to use those masks for work and have been told that by safety persons.
+SofakingHazed It's true, specifically against fumes. Against particulates, I assume my beard is acting like a 'secondary filter' which is probably totally helpful. At least, that's what I like to tell myself. Thanks for watching!
SofakingHazed not true I was fitted for an air mask by the state with a beard as long as a 1 trimmer setting.
My old man made a spray booth. Took a plastic bin from Walmart, cut a hole, put an air filter in the hole, and backs it up against a partially open window and sprays in the bin
Who would win: Uncle Atom vs Duncan "Thin your paints" Rhodes?
In a slapfight? A pie-eating contest? In a dance-off? The world may never know. However, I'll be seeing him at AdeptiCon at the end of March, so maybe we'll find out. Thanks for watching!
Tabletop Minions live your vids! And a paint thin in competition 😂😂
Duncan
Sorry Uncle
@@tabletopminions any updates?
Legend states they are still battling to this day. Neither getting ascendancy over the other for long enough ....
The iMortal Joe gag got a giggle, because yeah I have been doing that as well, before that it was Darth Vader.
Can an airbrush/compressor explode?
I’ve never heard of that happening. The rechargeable batteries in a wireless mini-compressor have exploded during charging, according to a viewer of mine. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this very complete tutorial. Maybe going to buy one in Japan! :)
+impooser I'm pretty sure Iawata airbrushes are made there. Thanks for watching!
I bought that exact booth a few months ago, it's legit! The LED are very bright and have a blue shade to them, makes color matching tough. If that's my only grip, I figure I'm way ahead!
+T “Claymaker52” DB I have the one without the lights and just put a light above the top which helps- the fan in the back is really really good as well, though i've had trouble trying to get the hose extension hooked up.
+T “Claymaker52” DB I'm glad to hear some reviews from people who own it, and I'm glad to hear that it seems to work pretty well. Thanks for watching!
Have you tried using orange gels over your blue lights to balance it out?
In another life I worked with respirators quite a bit. The type of filter is rated by size of matter they filter or micron size. The cheap white dust masks are only good for dust. The similar looking n95 respirator paper masks are plenty sufficient for most jobs especially acrylic paints. The respirator as show in the video with a particulate filter is very similar to the n95 however it seals all the areas that the paper masks can leak from. Anything you are doing that may have vapors (laquer and enamel including rattle cans) should have vapor rated filters. Whichever mask you decide to use it will be of no use if you don't properly fit it to your face and perform a fittest. Sorry atom but facial hair prevents a good seal. The mask you are wearing is not doing its job. I had the same problem and trimmed my beard to be contained inside the mask.
Can I just use a bandana
It might help, but not as good as a mask. Thanks for watching!
I read that you can usethe blue wiper fluid that can be bought from walmart as a airbrush cleaner. What is your opinion on that?