Ableton Live Tutorial - Generative Classical Music = Ned Rush

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  • In this Ableton Live Tutorial we are going to generate some classical music with a load of midi effects and a grand piano. Support me on Patreon to download this set plus many many more. / 96374223
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    Ned Rush is an infotaining universe of ideas for ways to make music, including areas of music production, music composition, sampling, synthesisers and sound design in software like Ableton, MaxMSP, Reason, and on hardware such as eurorack modular, Elektron boxes like the Octatrack and Analog Rytm, also visual art strategies using Jitter, focusing on music genres such electronica, IDM, glitch, jungle, breakcore, electro-acoustic, musique concrete, as well as discussing music via interviews and podcasts, and music performances via livestreams.

Komentáře • 135

  • @sampyannotti
    @sampyannotti Před 7 měsíci +52

    Rachmaninoff is SHITTING HIMSELF.

  • @MerkabahUniverse
    @MerkabahUniverse Před 7 měsíci +32

    You’ve taken what a human with an IQ of 140+ , with years of practice on the piano and composing music and generated a masterpiece in 20minutes. BRAVO. You are a genius. You blow my mind every time.

    • @cowmilkbiz
      @cowmilkbiz Před 7 měsíci +2

      I don’t even have to finish the video to know it’s true 😂 Ned you turn it out every time

    • @notnoaintno5134
      @notnoaintno5134 Před 7 měsíci +9

      Not quite, you don't understand classical if you think this is what it is. Classical has cadences, chord progressions, modulations, ornamentation, accidentals, etc. This is literally just a piano playing random notes and chords within a scale

    • @notnoaintno5134
      @notnoaintno5134 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Still cool but chill a bit on thinking this is beethoven level

  • @snarlysausage4604
    @snarlysausage4604 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Im now a ''Generative Classical Music'' fan!

  • @BrapAllgood
    @BrapAllgood Před 7 měsíci +10

    For more than two years now, I've been fascinated by doing exactly this, but with machine sounds. I will tell you flat out, Note Echo is better if you step it up, down, something. Too staccato otherwise, helps break that up, especially if working with samples instead of expressly tonal content. Go slice something inorganic and drop an Arpeggiator and a Note Echo after it, then make it +1 or more, if you have enough steps available.... Then Trash the crap out of it. SUPER fun for generating actual audio to work with. I'm now building Ableton Packs out of the audio I collected this way, whole instruments putting all of it at my fingertips. But remember...you gotta record stuff. You will hear things go by that are mind-blowing-- and wish you had been recording. I know this too well. Happy New Year, Mister.

    • @freelounge6001
      @freelounge6001 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yeah, then automate the step and pass it through the scale effect afterwards. Fun times! Another way to put gaps in the music is to leave certain notes unmapped in the scale effect

  • @marcinw7127
    @marcinw7127 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Instant Classic FM banger, Ned Rush "Piano Concero in C3" :)

  • @SinisterSwiss
    @SinisterSwiss Před 7 měsíci +7

    Claude Debussy's been real quiet since this dropped
    Tempted to smash some breaks over the top of this, true Classical Rush style

  • @ashleysullivan7965
    @ashleysullivan7965 Před 2 dny

    This was seriously entertaining and the product is fascinating. Thanks!

  • @bricelory9534
    @bricelory9534 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I think one thing that would help even more "classical" ness is a shape that changes the root note of the chord (so the whole thing modulates to a different key) every 32 bars, a simple square lfo could have it modulating back and forth, but you could also try working with the Shaper tool for more precise cycles of modulation, though I don't know how slow in terms of bars those are capable of going. I imagine there's a device out there somewhere for it, though.

  • @vvcv__00
    @vvcv__00 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Quite amazing how every so often a brilliant burst of harmonized melody (music) can be heard.

  • @suop1234
    @suop1234 Před 7 měsíci +5

    the first few minutes of just waiting for the chords to resolve hurt me on every level
    and SUPER cool video i never even realised midi effect racks were a thing you've inspired me heaps

  • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
    @ghfjfghjasdfasdf Před 7 měsíci +4

    Instant SUB
    I’ve been fantasizing about hearing something like this since I was a kid. This is brilliant. I wish my parents could hear this! Thanks for making this Neo Classical music.

  • @MF_Naah
    @MF_Naah Před 7 měsíci +2

    Fantastic. Needs an amen break chopped in... Then classical.

  • @sektortwo4418
    @sektortwo4418 Před 7 měsíci +1

    this went from "gee, ned, i don't know about this one" to "holy shit, dude, like how???" ...especially after putting the note lenght after the chain

  • @gabrielemarcelli4530
    @gabrielemarcelli4530 Před 7 měsíci +2

    THANK YOU THANK YOU NED. I LOVE YOU VIDEOS.
    ESPECIALLY EVERY VIDEO ABOUT GENERATIVE STUFF. YOU BRIGHTENED MY EVENING THANK YOUUU🎉🎉🎉

  • @sr_bob
    @sr_bob Před 7 měsíci +1

    Reminds me of the Prokofiev Sarcasms. So good.

  • @AdamJohnWilliams
    @AdamJohnWilliams Před 7 měsíci +7

    Dude this is utterly brilliant, and in response to your question about whether it can be called Classical Music; I would suggest that it probably falls under the umbrella of the classical subgenre with the somewhat confusing name “New Music”

    • @_Udaya_
      @_Udaya_ Před 7 měsíci +1

      Contemporary classical?

  • @sora8537
    @sora8537 Před 25 dny

    what a piece!

  • @NapoleonBonaparte92
    @NapoleonBonaparte92 Před 7 měsíci

    It sounds very authentic and georgous by 10 minute mark sir Ned, i am 100% dialed in my mouth wide open

  • @kozepz
    @kozepz Před 7 měsíci +1

    This is great! Instead of using the arpeggiator I used the Bouncy Notes from the Inspired by Nature pack as the virtual player.

  • @tojaniktinny
    @tojaniktinny Před 7 měsíci +3

    Brilliant stuff! Is there any Chopin in it? The 19th International Fryderyk Chopin Piano Competition will take place in Warsaw in October 2025. It would be extremely difficult to make you Ned look 28 (thats oldest age bracket for pianists competing), conceal the computer and speakers, and make it look as if YOU’re playing the piano but certainly not impossible. I am not one one of the judges but you have my vote nevertheless.

  • @matthewj.tinney6156
    @matthewj.tinney6156 Před 7 měsíci

    Reminds me of the Mendelssohn piano concerto's. One of my favorite collections in all of classical music. Thank you for this example of generative music in Ableton. I learned a lot!

  • @analogglitch
    @analogglitch Před 6 měsíci

    This deserves to be the most viewed youtube video of all time

  • @LameBushido
    @LameBushido Před 7 měsíci +1

    Ned. You fucking legend. You fucking don. You fucking marvel of man.

  • @khartbeats
    @khartbeats Před 7 měsíci

    Reminds me of some very chaotic orchestral concertos I’ve played in the past… regardless, your creativity and ingenuity with Ableton’s effects is always amazing to watch. Thank you for sharing these videos.

  • @markbennett1585
    @markbennett1585 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Those 0.5% beers give me a hangover without any of the enjoyment of getting drunk.

  • @D-One
    @D-One Před 7 měsíci

    Im usually dont like videos on midi generation most sound random this one has some amazing moments, it got lost many times, i'll watch it 20 times and take notes. 👍

  • @gabrielemarcelli4530
    @gabrielemarcelli4530 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I don't know if it is CLASSICAL music, but it sure remind me of some expressionism era pieces of piano, very experimental and unique

  • @Fezoy_music
    @Fezoy_music Před 4 měsíci

    This is Fantastic. Thanks

  • @Aona_Music
    @Aona_Music Před 7 měsíci +2

    This is honestly genius and I hate that I'd never thought to try it before lmaoo

  • @MarcPrice1
    @MarcPrice1 Před 7 měsíci

    Loving this! Whilst I'm not a fan of this style of freeform/jazz 'classical', I love the process you've shown... inspirational stuff, thanks! 😀

  • @akoolstik
    @akoolstik Před 7 měsíci +1

    mid 40s friday night classical midi party

  • @StevenJamesBurks
    @StevenJamesBurks Před 7 měsíci +2

    another way you can musically modulate between metric divisions (16ths, 8ths, 1/4s, etc) using the arpeggiator is to draw automation for the dial in a clip, or use the lfo and give it a specific range ... an additional approach that i like to use is to assigm specific metric modulation values to a computer key ... (ae approach)

    • @Hollandvancewright
      @Hollandvancewright Před 7 měsíci +2

      My strategy would be to make a rack like he did, but distribute the chain selector instead and assign it to a random LFO. That way you don't get unwanted triplets, and have more control over each arpeggiator

  • @dmiksa620
    @dmiksa620 Před 7 měsíci

    i just completed my undergraduate thesis using similar techniques to marry the genres of aleatoric and generative music! super fascinating to see someone else’s approach in the same DAW. will definitely be trying out expression control haha. thanks for sharing your experimentation!😎

  • @Dekoherence-ii8pw
    @Dekoherence-ii8pw Před 6 měsíci

    4:00 "Let's TAKE THAT (and party!)",
    That's a very old reference, lol.
    Child of the '90s, haha! 🙂

  • @ahorseinahospital
    @ahorseinahospital Před 7 měsíci

    I so didn't expect it to sound this good. Defo trying this

  • @dhbehk5339
    @dhbehk5339 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I would define it as gothic ragtime 🦇

  • @planetplex
    @planetplex Před 7 měsíci +1

    I now know how I’m going to make my next album! 😬😎

  • @sophialiarou4688
    @sophialiarou4688 Před 7 měsíci

    my God! Amazing!

  • @pl33
    @pl33 Před 5 měsíci

    you made another classic ned

  • @alainthiry3965
    @alainthiry3965 Před 5 měsíci

    excellent!

  • @mechanicom
    @mechanicom Před 7 měsíci +8

    This is incredible and I’m also kind of into it. Could you create some original classical trumpet concertos please. I would say this is classical.

  • @OrangeNash
    @OrangeNash Před 7 měsíci

    Reminds me of Emerson Lake & Palmer at their proggiest!

  • @limnal_music
    @limnal_music Před 7 měsíci

    Ned you are a gem 🙏🏻

  • @warminstrel2284
    @warminstrel2284 Před 7 měsíci

    Insane Ned, truly inspiring.

  • @harrylightfoot2223
    @harrylightfoot2223 Před 7 měsíci

    When Ned flips the tempo to 90 bpm at 16.35 did it remind anyone else of "the entertainer" by scott joplin. Another great video though! I'd love to hear how this thing sounded using a different scale across the whole project. I think to make it sound more "classical" as well, there could be some tempo modulation, as well as overall dynamic range modulation to mimic the ff or pp stuff you get in classical music

  • @jovebose
    @jovebose Před 7 měsíci

    new form of classic music

  • @ickebins6948
    @ickebins6948 Před 7 měsíci

    What a banger!
    Thanks Ned.

  • @DnzVdskr
    @DnzVdskr Před 7 měsíci

    you blow my mind everytime Ned!

  • @TaiBaSs40
    @TaiBaSs40 Před 7 měsíci

    Ned "Mozart" Rush !! 🙃Another nice stuff to try !! Thx
    It sound like classical music for sure !!

  • @1cenobite
    @1cenobite Před 5 měsíci

    Every episode i imagine a podcast by webb, writing music for super Hans.

  • @matesandorzalan960
    @matesandorzalan960 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Around 15:30 it actually sounds like some legit piano composition. At least to my absolutely untrained ears...

  • @ofootyeabicc201
    @ofootyeabicc201 Před 7 měsíci

    I like how you still use your RNG controller you made eons ago with velocity and chain selection even as ableton released probability in the midi piano roll. I still have your sampler preset for chopping breaks. It’s lore that manifests itself in niche tools.
    I tried making a conductor-type thing where I had a bunch of notes of different lengths doing follow action events(this is before I learned about the note length and random pitch devices) to do a similar thing-ish: a bass, an arp, chords. At about 6.5 mins in it’s about the same thing except yours is waaaaaaay cleaner. Great video as always!

  • @mollykeane2571
    @mollykeane2571 Před 7 měsíci

    This was amazing whatever it is!
    Don’t forget Ableton’s MIDI capture function.

  • @ongakuyaro
    @ongakuyaro Před 7 měsíci

    i think this is the best video you made

  • @solnoctis7022
    @solnoctis7022 Před 7 měsíci

    That's a great generative patch you made there. Well done!

  • @WDIPJordi
    @WDIPJordi Před 7 měsíci

    You reached a new level today, Ned

  • @chinchiIIa
    @chinchiIIa Před 7 měsíci +1

    I dont understand any of that stuff att the bottom but you're a realy good pianist!!!

    • @notnoaintno5134
      @notnoaintno5134 Před 7 měsíci

      He's not playing anything its computer generated, hence the title of the video

    • @simonsanchezkumrich8489
      @simonsanchezkumrich8489 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@notnoaintno5134are u joking or u didn't understand the joke lol

  • @tamalitogirl
    @tamalitogirl Před 7 měsíci +1

    Awesome❤

  • @ahmettiryakioglu_music
    @ahmettiryakioglu_music Před 7 měsíci

    Brilliant content. Chord before scale and random in the midddle, also brilliant.

  • @HeSaysMoe
    @HeSaysMoe Před 7 měsíci +1

    You could take this concept and start the Artificially Intelligent Dance Music genre :)

  • @patricketp8356
    @patricketp8356 Před 7 měsíci

    Great. Amazing

  • @jordynmuldrow3885
    @jordynmuldrow3885 Před 6 měsíci

    This was awesome!

  • @bigupz6818
    @bigupz6818 Před 7 měsíci

    Ooft this is enjoyable. Patreon no brainer 🎉🎉🎉

  • @MultiMam12345
    @MultiMam12345 Před 7 měsíci

    More reduction using probability applied to anything would help humanizing it. Also tempo changes. Octave changes. Poly to mono. Anything is possible. But just an amazing demonstration of generative midi. Hats off at 40% 😂

  • @erikm5753
    @erikm5753 Před 7 měsíci

    Just started something like this a few days ago with just an arpeggiator and made myself dizzy. Glad you did this. So exciting. What is music other than patterns and “generative nonsense,” with critics, lovers, and haters abound?

  • @JoshuaPickenpaugh
    @JoshuaPickenpaugh Před 7 měsíci

    A new score to Steamboat Willy version 2.0. Sounds great!

  • @reptilyan
    @reptilyan Před 7 měsíci

    genius

  • @chipwillis
    @chipwillis Před 7 měsíci

    For whatever reason the thought pops up, Dammit, you blew it all up! hahaha

  • @hfos
    @hfos Před 7 měsíci

    Fantastic, thank you!

  • @adamswierczynski
    @adamswierczynski Před 7 měsíci

    When can we get a Ned Rush 24/7 livestream of this. I bet you could use a slow sawtooth LFO to trigger a scale change at the peak of the wave every few minutes, maybe even trigger a change in tempo, too.

  • @CNTRRNDM
    @CNTRRNDM Před 7 měsíci

    Bravo, maestro😁

  • @_matteoamadio
    @_matteoamadio Před 7 měsíci

    I wish a group of pianists wrote down the score for this and then played it live with the video. I would go see it

  • @frankbarrett6664
    @frankbarrett6664 Před 7 měsíci

    Great stuff 😮

  • @kuhliloach8842
    @kuhliloach8842 Před 7 měsíci

    thanks for the great video

  • @eugenecheegarev
    @eugenecheegarev Před 7 měsíci

    GOD

  • @pk3776
    @pk3776 Před 7 měsíci

    luv it!

  • @qbaxcpu
    @qbaxcpu Před 7 měsíci

    good stuff!

  • @ManfredGerhard
    @ManfredGerhard Před 7 měsíci

    Damn you played Ableton 100% through 😂

  • @deliciousdoyle
    @deliciousdoyle Před 7 měsíci

    Cecil Taylor!

  • @artart7370
    @artart7370 Před 7 měsíci

    cool!

  • @apzzpa
    @apzzpa Před 2 měsíci

    Ableton is truly a beast. Great stuff. In the latest Ableton you can't map an expression control to the arp style or note length it seems which is a shame

    • @NedRush
      @NedRush  Před 2 měsíci

      Yes you can.

    • @apzzpa
      @apzzpa Před 2 měsíci

      @@NedRush Interesting. Whenever I do it it says something along the lines of 'mapping unsuccessful and cannot map to this parameter'. I'll have to have a look into it

    • @NedRush
      @NedRush  Před 2 měsíci

      Switch it from modulate to remote.

    • @apzzpa
      @apzzpa Před 2 měsíci

      @@NedRush Oooooh. Recent Logic convertee here. Thanks.
      Would love to see more generative ambient stuff

  • @jankalinowski6767
    @jankalinowski6767 Před 7 měsíci

    Tschaikowski First digital .... Ha Ha... Cool,nice intresting !

  • @apostatatheprovost3041
    @apostatatheprovost3041 Před 7 měsíci

    🔥❤️

  • @sp00k-sr1oe
    @sp00k-sr1oe Před 7 měsíci +1

    garbage in, garbage out : GIGO

  • @erolbrown
    @erolbrown Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hello everyone and welcome to my new vi- PUNCHES LIKE BUTTON

    • @afternoon
      @afternoon Před 7 měsíci

      I’ve taken to singing along.

  • @felixgrudge7195
    @felixgrudge7195 Před 7 měsíci

    This is great.
    But when you duplicate the arps, only the first one is mapped to the expression control.
    I set the Arp Style Randomization to a maximum of 78% so it cant get in chord-mode,
    left the different synced Arp out,
    and put x-ponder by manifest audio at the end of the midichain before the scale.
    A m4l device that generates notes in a call and response style
    and has a humanization and a syncopation feature.

  • @Trem.official
    @Trem.official Před 5 měsíci

    Goood Damn

  • @nos_leN150
    @nos_leN150 Před 4 dny

    Trent Reznor wants to know your location

  • @boysofsilence1808
    @boysofsilence1808 Před 7 měsíci

    Cool

  • @JonMurray
    @JonMurray Před 7 měsíci

    My iMac overheated just watching this.

    • @JonMurray
      @JonMurray Před 7 měsíci

      Absolutely incredible by the way! Beautiful Rachmaninov/dark Chopin feel! From one midi note haha! New subscriber ✌🏻

  • @johnnyjules2008
    @johnnyjules2008 Před 7 měsíci

    I like these comments more than those on Reddit.

  • @monstrohorrivel802
    @monstrohorrivel802 Před 7 měsíci

    Nedthoven meets Rushard Wagner

  • @penderfynydd4335
    @penderfynydd4335 Před 7 měsíci

    I think I heard Tigran Hamasyan somewhere in the middle 😅

  • @Soulmachine72
    @Soulmachine72 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I got curious how it would sound with a beat repeat at the end of the chain? 🙂

  • @samlisson
    @samlisson Před 7 měsíci

    vary the tempo as you go and I think you could really humanise it

  • @F4xP4s
    @F4xP4s Před 6 měsíci

    Nerd Rust

  • @monocore
    @monocore Před 7 měsíci +2

    Pyotr Ilyich Autechre

  • @davidmcgirr
    @davidmcgirr Před 7 měsíci +1

    As a fellow NA beer and midi enthusiast, I feel specifically targeted by this video.

  • @mathieuverrier7980
    @mathieuverrier7980 Před 7 měsíci

    Maybe you could feed this in an AI, asking to give his own take of it. Key and tempo variations would be nice also. Thanks Ned for the good content. Always inspiring.

  • @meucanalmix
    @meucanalmix Před 7 měsíci

    genius!!!