Want to start mountain biking? You should do it NOW!
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- For a while now we've been in the bike-pocalypse, which since the end of the lockdowns has caused bicycle prices to plummet. Now, the problem is exacerbated by used bikes flooding the market as well. This "problem" is actually good for anyone looking to start mountain biking right now, and in fact I found a GT Ricochet for $125! It's not a high-end bike by any means, and in fact it was originally bought from Dick's Sporting Goods, but bikes like these were going for $300+ during the pandemic.
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CZcams content doesn't really get better than this. Entertaining, informative, financially helpful, looks at the subject from more than one angle, and well presented by someone who's very clearly a decent and level-headed person. What else could one ask? Cheers, Seth!
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Fully agreed. A little over a year ago I sold my hybrid bike for a great price (using tips from Seth on how to present the photos and the copy in the ad), then bought my first mountain bike, again using advice from this channel to make sure I was buying a decent entry level hardtail. Production values are great, content is informative. Couldn't ask for more.
This is probably my favorite of Seths videos so far. So many people are going to find out what they've been missing out on...because I'm going to send them this video.
I love that Seth is not always riding his 20k titanium custom. He is just i jeans on a cheap bike. Banging.
Been obsessed with this channel, Seth knows his stuff !
8:43 LoL, Respectfully offering $15. 😂😂😂
What a gentleman. Not only does Seth cut through the hype and give us all a lesson on what it really takes to get into biking he also gives us a lesson on human decency when it comes to personal commerce/free market economics. This kinda stuff is greatly needed. We need more honesty and decency. This NICA coach truly appreciates it. Thanks Seth!
The problem I find is that the people who over paid for bikes during the pandemic refuse to take a loss and actually want more for their bikes than you can buy a new bike for. I've been finding it extremely hard to find a good deal on a bike where I live. The best deals are buying a new one.
I made this comment before getting to the end... Lol
Research the bike vs what they are offering.
I bought a mountain bike right when the pandemic started, but prices were still reasonable. I was looking coincidentally at the same time. I bought a GT Avalanche Sport for $400.
If I sold right now (never!) I'd sell it for more because I've upgraded the fork, cranks, wheels, tires, stem, handlebars, grips, pedals and drive train. If you pay $1k, which is what I'm into the bike for with all the upgrades, you'd get a lower spec bike than what I built mine into.
Now, I wouldn't sell my bike for $1k, but if I were to sell (again, not happening), I'd definitely sell it for more than $400. Ultimately, is take a loss. But some people would probably think I was over valuing the bike.
I ran in to the same thing. Ended up getting a brand new bike because used bikes weren't really that great of a deal with the sales manufacturers are running
We only had to make it 1:47 seconds into the video to hear him say that .........
I’m totally guilty of this. I tried for months to sell a bike for 2000 bucks but it was ridiculous and then I asked myself what I would pay for it… definitely lost some money on my first bike but I didn’t buy it for equity. I bought it for fun.
In my region the Laurentians, middle class seasonal tourist trap, pretty healthy MTB community but a lot of newcomers came with fistfuls of dollars during the pandemic and scooped everything high end they could without considering what they actually needed.
Now the market is flooded with top notch used bikes at or over retail. Poof the market is dead 😂
This ‘lowly’ GT is actually WAY BETTER than the MTB I bought used in the 80’s, a 1986 specialized Rockhopper (upgraded with a mavic 231 rear rim). This GT would have blown minds 40 years ago when I started really doing this sport….. it’s a perspective most people don’t get.
Duh. Did mountain bikes even have suspension yet in the 80’s?
My first mountain bike in the 90’s (Schwinn) definitely didn’t.
A few did, but they were very rare. My 1993 Scott CST had front suspension, but it was essentially just a spring. Had a 1994 AMP B-3 which was full suspension, and ended up ditching the AMP fork (awful) for the very first Rockshox Judy, which was incredible back then.....it's only gotten better. Still, this GT would have had everyone drooling back in the late 80's/early 90's, as aluminum framed bikes were still 'premium', if you can believe it.@@mattyp6908
@@mattyp6908 I remember seeing front forks show up en-masse with the rockshox elastomer shocks in the early-mid 90's. Quad 21? I'd have to look it up now, but it was something like that. I think they were yellow to start, then grey. Something like 50mm of travel. I still have a 97 Stumpjumper with a Judy XC on it (65mm of travel! lol) that has an oil damper. Still works too, I just rebuilt it and swapped the elastomer stack for springs.
@@mikeriley1475 yeah that i know to be true but i was specifically referring to the 80’s. thanks for the reply tho
who the hell is jesus?@@enriqueamaya3883
Your warnings about bike-like objects not intended for actual use is spot on. More on that please!
Impressed you could get a 150$ bike with thru axle !
One of your best videos to date. I especially loved using tact, when making offers. You converted my wife to not only try and now love MTB riding but now she wants to build trails on our property. You really are the ambassador of mountain biking.
Always use tact...I have even made offers on overpriced stuff, linked them to where I could buy it elsewhere or what similar items are currently selling for. Most people are easy to deal with if you are. Saw a tablet on Kijiji recently...overpriced cause Walmart had an online only sale of the same item...linked it to him...accepted my (reasonable and informed) offer. Normal stuff. Some people are really irritating and impolite to deal with on some of those sites so I dont even waste my time with those people. There are enough pleasant people who know some basic communication skills to never deal with the idiots. I dont mind making them feel dumb though, either. The amount of, "accept my $20 offer for your PS5 or you are a jerk" type stuff is agravating, but easy to ignore.
Not necessarily. People are in different financial situations and can afford what they can afford. All you can do is be polite and ask. Being complimentary these days, is so rare, that the act alone, could sway a seller. @@GNMi79
this is what all the "other" youtube channels need to see when they make "budget" bike videos that actually cost 1500 bucks and used expensive parts from the bike bin lol
Everyones "budget" is different. To you, this is a budget bike. To an "elite cyclist" they wouldnt even throw a leg over this bike because its so cheap. It doesnt have electronic shifting, slack geometry and fox suspension, etc. Some people "budget" to spend whatever they can afford and that term doesnt really mean value like it should. Performance per dollar is what most people care about.
@@MTB_CRZY1500 is not a budget bike.
@@grumpy-dad3701 to YOU, 1500 is not budget. To ME it is. A budget is whatever you can afford. I believe the term you are looking for is "performance per dollar" and thats if you are in the US. In the grand scheme of bikes, $1500 is not a lot but it also doesnt mean you cant get a great bike for that either.
@@MTB_CRZY I totally get the pricing and how they class these prices. Which is classed and generalised by the industry itself.
It's only budget when compared to a 15k bike.
Okay - this seems like really uncanny timing. I’ve been going through a really rough patch in life; and recently, the Whistler video was recommended to me again after a long time of falling off the main channel, which led me into a binge-and-rewatch episode of basically every video on the channel, and on BPE.
It has reinvigorated my love for bikes that I’ve always had but lost once I started working and the life grind began. I’ve watched this video twice just today since it dropped.
Thank you for your work, Seth - as well as everyone else on your team and everyone responsible for making these videos happen. I really needed these uploads.
Just got a new to me bike off Marketplace today, and I absolutely used Seth's message as the core of my offer.
This has to be the best advice for getting into mountain biking out there right now! I always have problems with looking up reviews on what bike is the best in its class and what components are better than others until my brain gets numb. JUST BUY A BIKE!! This is literally a once in a lifetime situation and we all need to take advantage of it if you can!!
One of the main barriers I've noticed is there's a lack of NOOB trails. Like flat stuff with no big jumps. All the money is going into the sort of thing that makes YT videos, but that also means my buddies are intimidated out of even starting because the easiest trails I can take them to are too hard for a noobie.
Ten minutes with Seth, the next best thing to ten minutes actually on a bike.
I wanted to start biking but I was reluctant to spend the cash on a new bike because I was worried I'd get bored of it. A friend kindly gave me an old rickety mountain bike and I loved that thing. It didn't take long before it fell apart but I rode it everyday. I saw a GT Avalanche 2.0 in my local Cash Converters for £80 so I snapped that right up. I love it. It might not be the newest or best but it gets me around and fitter. As long as you don't "need" the latest and greatest bikes, just get an old one. As long as it works and if it doesn't work so well you can learn to upgrade it
TIL you get cashies in the UK.
@@LordVarkson Yep, they're called Cash Generator. The one near me is anyway
Thank you so much for your dedication to getting more people on bikes!
I love your inclusive attitude. A lot of people think they need $$$ worth of bike and gear, but that’s not really how any of us started. That GT actually looks pretty sweet!
This video is a perfect refresh. Thanks Seth. Best content in this platform ever. I think I've been following you for the past 8 years. And you even encouraged me to get on the bike again.
Excellent video Seth, I’ve been watching since the beginning of Seth’s Bike Hacks, I currently ride an RSD Sergeant, but I also enjoy my dads old fully rigid haro with v brakes and thumb shifters and my 24” BMX Cruiser, etc, etc. You can have an absolute ball on just about any bike. I Appreciate how you’re encouraging people to take up what is an absolutely awesome sport!!
Outstanding video, Seth. This will, without a doubt, help and inspire those curious to be encouraged. Well done (as always)!
i've been watching mountain bike videos for about a month or two now, i really want to ride some trails but can't as my current mountain bike is too small. i've been borrowing a fully rigid hybrid bike to use and i've practised on my local pump track, but super hyped for christmas since i asked for a hardtail! i pretty much know everything i need to all thanks to your and many others' videos now all i need is the bike. keep up the amazing videos!
Mountain Biking changed my life! You’re the man, Seth! Thank you!
Amazing content, as usual. Learned it the hard way when I bought a new 26er that had been in the shop since 2014 for 650 during peak pandemic times. It was contextual and got me into biking. Eighteen months later ended up with an awesome deal for a used Niner. Wish I knew about the channel back then.
Hey Seth I have been watching your videos since you lived in Florida and I watched your whole enchilada video and the how to buy a mountain bike that was posted near it. It inspired me to buy my own mountain bike, and i am still at it all these years after, thanks for inspiring me! PS. I rode the whole enchilada last year.
Great video Seth, this is guy is gonna be the worlds most famous mountain biker , best ambassador for the sport without riding as a pro, the man knows how to stay afloat , just doing riding videos would get boring really quick but he keeps finding subjects that are interesting.
That GT is the bike that got me into the sport, and your videos were my tutorials. Two bikes, some love scars, and 100s of miles of riding later, and I’ve been hooked!
This has to be one of the best videos I've ever seen to encourage someone to get into this sport. Unfortunately (or fortunately), pretty much everyone I know has already partaken of the MTB KoolAid. If I do run into someone that is "on the fence", I will definitely recommend this video!
Seth, thank you for making content that's informative, ACCESSIBLE, and entertaining. I credit you (and moving out of the city to a more MTB-friendly area, but I digress) with rekindling my interest in mountain biking after over 15 years away.
Within the next year or two, I hope to be one of the guys that's comfortable working on and modding their own bike, haha. Cheers!
So....I'm going to endo into a hip jump from the Jesus comment....no offense but staying in topic here. I also want to learn hot to better maintain my bike.
As an prior Air Force maintenance guy I miss working with tools and this might be my fix.
I think that's another reason why I'd like to learn more on Seth's channel.
@@alexperez4408 Yeah man. I have a car I love to work on, but it can just be too difficult at times.
I hope gaining some bike maintenance skills will be a good middle ground that I can use much more easily and frequently.
Great job. You do an amazing job with your videos. You are so well spoken and are very considerate of others. Hands down you are my favorite you-tuber to watch. Keep up the great work. I hope to ride with you someday. In fact, i hope to rent out your rental at some point.
This literally made my day! Thank you for what you do! I hope you inspire more people!
Love the smooth jazz. It REALLY gets me in the mood😅
In 2016, I bought a new 2015 gt Ricochet Hardtail for 452.00 USD. I still have it and still love it! In fact, I'm sure watching your videos back then inspired me to buy it!😅Although the only thing original today is the crankset, it's more capable now and really fun to ride. It was still a great bike with original equipment and a great starter bike for me. It's cool to see you have one!😁
Great videos Seth and love your flip bike videos. A wealth of info here. I ride an e-bike and absolutely love it for my older age...
I bought a GT Pantera 27.5+ in 2020 right before the pandemic. It was actually just about the exact same as this bike, color and everything. I upgraded the fork, brakes, and drivetrain and raced it for a year before selling it last year for a profit. It was a fantastic starter bike.
"Head for the hills" sounds like a good thing in this context
Another fine video from the Seth, KUTGW !!! Got my GT 29er on FBM for $80, walked there and rode it back with one brake barely working and was tickled. Adding an air fork and hydraulic brakes it becomes a ripper for less than $300 with new grips and tires
I got that exact bike as my first real mountain bike back in 2019. Mine was branded as a GT Pantera, but they were the same. I upgraded it with hydraulic brakes, dropper post, shimano slx 1x11, and tubeless. It was a great bike! I still have it, but have gone up to a Polygon Siskiu T8 full suspension bike. Ride on! Love your content, Seth!
Ditto.... but for my 11 speed is Box as recommended by Seth!
came home from a little ride - thanks seth for this encouraging video
I recently bought a 2021 vitus mythique 27 vxr from a local bloke, it had under 60 miles on it and even the nobles on the tyres. The total cost was £980, which he paid 1.8k only a year and a bit ago.
For any newbies in here!! I've gone back to simple cheap bikes after years of thinking I need the most expensive and new tech. I realized that even some 90's bikes are an absolute hoot on the trail too, and are a bargain of a deal. I mean I'm on the trail and having a great time on a 75 dollar 91' GT!
Love the whole message of the video ! Especially the "nice message on facebook marketplace" thing, we recieve so many time when we are selling people's message juste asking for a crazy price that make us forget that it is for a thing that we use to and still love : our bike ! At least if you want to negociate, respect the seller and the bike
Got myself a bike last week thanks to your video`s , Keep it up
early bird gets the worm!
Throwing my hat into the ring, I took my first ride on a friends tricked out hardtail and knew I need my own. so after a couple more rides I a got a norco torrent s2, since I was already riding some of the easier black trails and knew I needed something really capable, and I couldn’t be happier
Between this video and a few others of his, I'm grateful for my neighbor introducing me to Seth's channel. I'm even more stoked about him being in NC.
I took to the marketplace myself to give me an upgrade on my bike 2010ish Trek 4500 to get something more to date geometry wise.
It didn't go well, I felt like a scumbag, pissed some folks off, and I just purchased a new entry level bike at a discount anyway.
I think I could have followed Seth's script a little closer, but so many bikes out there asking for more than I could have gotten new online...it was an easy choice to just pick on of the bikes he and a few others talked about.
A co-worker was going to donate a GT Mountain Bike and said I could just have it, if I wanted. Now... I need to clean it up and get it ready. Going to watch your "restore" video now. Thanks.
Seth... I've gotta be honest with you. I'll never start mountain biking. But I'll never stop watching your channel either. You are my comfort food.
Try e-bikes 😬🤙🏻
I have the 2019 GT Pantera and it's basically the same bike just sold from different retailers. Got it for $300 right before the pandemic and I've updated just about everything but the saddle, lol. It's a do it all bike and it's been able to handle just about everything I've ventured to including lite bikepacking. Came with tapared headtube (44-56mm), internal dp routing, and boost spacing before it was popular on a big box bike. Looking forward to see what updates you come up with, there are so many possibilities with this bike.
I bought my first MTB a couple of weeks ago! (I’m not counting the one I had in the 90s that didn’t even see a dirt trail…). I did what he said: bought a newish bike in good condition, not too expensive, hardtail. I did my research and was patient. 29er Rockhopper with air suspension. Really happy and impressed with the bike. Mountain biking rocks!
Thanks for the low-balling tips. Very interesting piece.
Second hand market is literally insane , I have just built a nukeproof scout with lyrik ultimates , hope wheels , dropper post , gx gearing , magura brakes for under a grand .
I will never have the ability to ride this bike to its full extent.
That is insane, here people think they have gold in their hands for old equipment. They lost to much money with their covid purchases
@@SidiNic il post a video of it soon , I think with wiggle and crc going under it’s just caused the second hand market to literally crash.
Brand new scout v3 frame was £250
Maguras with rotors & bolts and spacer plates (still have the new sticker on the disc) £100
SRAM gx cassette good condition £30
Lyriks £300 like new condition
Hope wheels pro 4 rear hub , dt Swiss rims abd Michelin wild enduro tyres £200
Dropper post on sale £70
Saddle nukeproof £8
Nukeproof clamp £2.99
Headset included
Bottom bracket nukeproof £7.99
Recycled bars and stem & grips 35mm
Chainset gx sram bar cassette £100
So yea bout a 1k
Seth, you just made the best video for people who want to get into the sport. I am a long term mountain biker with a garage that looks like a high end bike shop. I love it but no one needs that to enjoy the sport. @ new mountain bikers: follow the advice in this video and get riding to discover one of the best activities out there!
Yo that advice on how to approach haggling is extremely good, didn't expect that!
I literally just a few days ago picked up a carbon frame Niner Rip 9 for 550 dollars...literally just needed brake pads and the rear brake bled. I cannot believe I own this bike for the money I paid, its like a dream. its my first full suspension bike and I had been looking at them for years and found this its like my dreams were answered.
I’ve had my 2017 aggressor pro since it came out that year, and honestly with a few upgrades this bike can shred lol.
As someone looking to now get into mountain biking and trying to take advantage of marketplace deals, thank you for this video! I really found myself overwhelmed by options at first.
I picked up one of these GTs as my first bike after not riding for a few years. A few cheap upgrades and i had a solid ride that I could bomb down my local trails with.
Hi Seth,
Thanks again for another thoughtful video. Yes I’m entertained and always learn something from you.
Ever think of running for President?
Cheers
I’m in highschool and your videos have motivated me to start saving money for a mountain bike
Funny enough, the day before you posted this, I found a used but near mint Release 3 about 15 minutes from the house. Guy wanted $1400 and threw in a BUNCH of extra stuff like a repair stand, road wheels, tools, bleed kits and a big jug of Slime! And it fit me perfect! Too good to pass up! Not to mention the guy is cool as hell.
Thanks for the sound advice for a beginner like me. I just picked up a 2014 GT Karakoram Comp for $30, it’s got some issues but looks like it will be a great first time MTB for me.
Best mountain biking video ever, no doubt, 100%
MB when i was younger; with a brief stint riding BMX on ramps and tricks.....like 20 years ago. Recently I've found myself living In Asheville NC and I find out that there's a TON a great trails around here. Getting back into it now and I'll be purchasing a new hard tail soon. Can't wait to get back out on the dirt and rocks. New State, New Me!
Seth great job , great content and story line
Eagerly awaiting the upgrade video I have this same bike and I’m looking to upgrade the fork and crankset to a 1x
Congrats on 1 million!!! You inspired me to start riding way back in 2016. I still use some of the parts you recommended in 2017. You're awesome
I started watching him in 2021
You reminded me that my son needs a new bike. Time to start looking.
Incredible insight. I would ride that GT.
Keep up the good work🎉
I run a mota race and the mazza enduro on the rear and love the set up on my ebike durning these winter months. Will move to a mazza race on the front when it dries out. Agree massively about the red logo on all tyres though. Is an annoyance of mine with them 😂
Excellent vid Seth . Consider yourself an MTB Ambassador
I bought a GT Avalanche Sport from Dicks direct to consumer during the pandemic for just shy of $1G. It was the higher trim level with 29ers and a 1x Deore drivetrain and hydros. I loved that bike, but my ‘95 GT Tequesta was seeing more seat time so I sold it about a year later for $700. I’m super glad I did and didn’t let it depreciate, and got a gravel bike with the funds.
This is great advice, i just got a really good deal on a used canyon. And its bareley even used.
I got a pretty much new 2021 Bossnut Calibre for about 500 pounds last year, happy with it
Congrats on the 1 million
I got a GT Aggressor in winter of 2018. I don't really plan to ride real MTB trails anytime soon, but I love it for road biking around my steep neighborhood hills (with no shoulder, so I sometimes have to stop in the grass). While I know a road bike would be better suited, they are a lot more expensive both upfront and to maintain than my bike.
So, for those looking to get into ANY kind of biking, I'd highly recommend one of these cheap hardtails, it gives you so much flexibility than a pricier road or mountain bike would be.
Inhad a GT saddleback im 38 it was when i was 13 or 14
Lots of "experts" blamed expensive mtb for the collapse of the industry...... but you just proved them wrong. Just over $100 to get started in this wonderful sport.
I'm taking advantage of this situation. I've been buying up bikes and parts at bargain prices. Yipppeeee
I've been looking for deals on FB every day for over a month now because my brother has been wanting a bike, and I knew that Christmas would be propping up prices a bit and I was anticipating a mild dip afterwards. A couple days ago, I ended up finding a Giant Talon in his size listed for $125 in basically brand new condition. He picked it up and it really is basically unridden. Shifts like a dream, the brakes work and the tires are still fresh.
The moral of the story is that sometimes you just need to be consistent and have patience in order to get a deal.
Hahaha seths response to that bike ad was like something a serial killer would say to someone trying to lure them to a park at midnight. lmao
Already started and have a nice full squish
Another great video Seth 🙌
I have an Orbea MX that I bought 3 months ago - the guy sold it to me for 200 off just to get rid of it as it had been sitting in it's box unsold since 2020.
I have no hesitation to ride in the cold or the dark, I quite like riding during dusk or night time. And whilst I do miss the summer, there is always next summer.
I managed to snag an upgraded 15 y.o. fully for a nice price just out of the pandemic when everything would have cost at least twice the amount; the seller told me he had bought it used a few months prior for 3x what he was selling it for during the pandemic!
It had roadie parts on, like clipless pedals, long low stem, skinny road tyres; I doubt it had ever been offroads, truly a weird setup.
Now it finally rides where it belongs!
Great Video! You should do one on the Salsa Rangefinder Deore 10 27.5+
love that paint job
Very well said Seth.
i just bought a mountain bike and pretty much immediately broke my collarbone on it, keen to get on the trails again though!
Just got my first mountain bike for $200 USD!! It’s a 2018 specialized pitch comp. Couldn’t be more happy with my purchase
I'm not sure if I'm going crazy or not, but did the music choice switch? I love it!
I always wanted to try out MTB'ing and being able to buy new, I got a Co-op DRT 1.3 (the REI brand) for ~ $1100 this summer. And I LOVE riding around the trails, even the paved trails around town😅 now the issue is finding a good hitch system for a sedan because I am now aware my area has excellent mtb trails!!
This was a great video! Thank you!
I was having a hard time finding a good flip-bike for my daughter so I went the other way and bought parts for great discounts. I got an excellent brand new XS Marin frame on eBay and then added some parts from on Facebook Marketplace and Amazon as well as some that I had sitting around and now she has an amazing hardtail. It cost less than a fully decked new version and it has better components than a stock Marin. Lots of people who did buy bikes during the pandemic also upgraded their bikes with more premium parts and now they are selling the barely used components for cheap. It's a great way to get into bike building for very little money.
Respectfully,,,, I’ve been a roadie since 1978. This is the best video I’ve seen In a very long time …now I’m wondering how’s the grass on the other side of the mountain. Traveling thru the mountain versus going around the it on road…
My son started on this same bike 2 years ago. We found it used for $250 and swapped in a 1x drivetrain, some take off hydraulic brakes, and a Rock Shox Reba fork for a fantastic deal on a nice hardtail.
Hey Seth, last year I picked up a near mint condition Cannondale Prophet Lefty full suspension for $300. According to your video, i should have headed for the hills. Well, I didn’t and I bought it! :)
Very well put! Makes me want to bike shop!
He’s right - there is a flood of bikes and parts all over the intra-web. I kinda wonder if Seth saw some of the writing on the wall and realized he needed a diverse income base. Hence the Ranger Station and such.
Im from chile in pandemic i wanted to come back to mtb but the prices were over the clouds. Like 6 months ago a catch in market place a scott aspect 920 for 200$ 2020, its matter of searching, all best and great video. Now im looking for some upgrades yeaaaaaah
great video seth loved it
Recently picked up a couple of early 2000's Treks I'm rebuilding for a friends kids. Got them both really cheap (like 30 ea) and they basically just needed a lot of servicing (bearing grease, fork service etc). I'm hoping to get a few started young, and it's a heck of a lot cheaper (and lighter) than stuff like the pre-caliber which is a 32lb kids bike. Sure the geo is dated, but at least when they are first starting out on more mellow trails Im not sure it'll matter much. In a year or so when they've outgrown these things we can look for something much newer.
Anyway; great video, and excellent reminder to be civil when dealing with others. Everyone wants a deal, but that's never a reason to be rude.