How to Grow Mushrooms: PF TEK
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- The PF Tek is the method i used to grow my first mushrooms when i was a beginner in mushroom cultivation so i am happy to share the method with you all!
The ratio is 2 parts Vermiculite, 1 part Water and 1 part Brown rice flour(BRF). For 6 pint jars or 12 half pint jars i use 6 cups Vermiculite, 3 cups Water, and 3 cups BRF. I mix the Vermiliculite and Water first and then add in the BRF.
You can pressure cook the jars for 30 minutes at 15 psi or you can steam sterilize in a pot of water for 2 hours.
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Man, that brings back some serious memories. That is exactly what got me into the 'special' mushrooms many years ago. Thank you for making such a concise and straightforward video. I will be directing people here. LC and PF Tek. Perfect combination.
I also have great memories using this method! Thanks for watching! 🙏 🍄
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Please tell me, could the cakes be smashed gently and spread all over?
@@belghirudanielaelena7200 Yes I like to use a cheese shredder to shred the cakes and mix with other substrate or you can spread it in a mulch bed or something shaded outdoor.
hell yes. You can use PF cakes for inoculating other substrate, but it gets tricky because you might be introducing contams at every new step of the way.@@belghirudanielaelena7200
Nice music selection, Dynamic editing, The speaker speaks concisely and informatively. It would be great if all educational videos were like this.
Thank you! 🙏 🍄
PF Tek is great if you don't want to work with agar. The stuff is really resilient to contamination. I've gone spore prints straight to jars and it just works (P. Natals really do great). The downside is that fruiting to PF Tek cakes doesn't give great yields, so I like to start with PF and expand it to more sterilized grain.
Oh great to know! Can I also use it as spawn for bigger bags with sterilized coir?
@@botondrakasz5838yes
I'm starting with pf Tek since it's very beginner friendly. I'm going for the monotube after a couple yields
In my opinion pftek just seems super obsolete compared to something like broke boi tek. You can always make grain spawn using brown rice, like you said it is contamination resistant compared to other grains and it is very nutritious as well, good yielding spawn. If you can inoculate a PFtek jar, you can inoculate a grain jar, the process is identical, and once thats done your sterile practice is pretty much done.
The fact you have to use a fruiting chamber also removes the convenience aspect of pftek. You can s2b in an unmodified sterilite shoebox, and basically all you have left is to wait. Its also smaller and you can just stick it in your closet. Fan the box out once a day when ready to fruit. Youll get better yields and if you ask me its much simpler. All you really have to do is prep the coco coir in a bucket, prep the grain spawn then its really as simple as sticking them both in a shoebox
@@botondrakasz5838 YES, you can use colonized PF as spawn. Pf is so cheap and easy, try it for outdoor beds similar to a tub setup.. but not sterile. Most varieties dont mind much if your weather is fair. Rodents and bears are a bigger issue than Tam.
I don't use this method but thank you for sharing your knowledge with me and everyone.
I do believe that mushrooms are a medicine and much much more so I think that sharing the knowledge of how to cultivate is important for people who want to try them but don't know how. Thank you for that. I like your tat as well.
Currently growing for the first time from scratch using the PF TEK (all going well). My next challenge is something that has a greater yield, like monotub. Thanks for the videos!
Great video, the only one I've watched that made me want to try PF. I bet I could make up a multispore LC and go hunting for weirdoes. One fruiting chamber could yield so many different phenotypes in a small foot print. So many mushies.......so little time.
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looks like I'll have to invest in mason jars and a pressure cooker, nice one!
I microwave these all the time and rarely get a tam. Its usually the LC source and my fault for skipping agar. Dont even need real mason jars, just microwave safe plastic like pp5. You can get SHIPS and air filter patches, but even these dont need to be bought- you can simply melt or drill 2 holes in the lid, stuff polyfill (not cotton-it can grow stuff easier) in one hole for a filter, and use high temp RTV silicone to make a Self Healing Injection Port out of the other hole. Just mushroom the silicone a bit after it starts to set and has a skin, but is still soft inside. You can also fruit single containers (of any size) without a chamber, by leaving it in jar, removing lid and putting a larger container like a water pitcher upside down over it. Or even a ziplock bag.
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Umm 🤔 I just clone some Tidal Wave into Liquid Culture.
I might try this Tek so I can get some good genetics.
Might try this with APEs too.
Nice tattoo bro
@Spore n' Sprout Do you need to pressure cook for 30 mins or 2 hrs like one of your old videos say? Thanks.
@@CarolinaBoiz 45 minutes is good
@@SporenSprout thanks for the speedy reply! Awesome videos too!
@@CarolinaBoiz Thanks for watching! 🙏 🍄
So you do spray it everyday? I keep having issues with mold but i dont fan my boxes enough that could be why but then other times ill leave the lid cracked and mold still forms even with fresh air. Ive had it where i dont open it at all and no mold grows its so random theres no pattern. I noticed the water likes to wick to the bottom and mold no matter what i do. Is that why you put perlite under your cakes? Just curious it could be a good prevention method
You definitely want to make sure you're using sterile water for all uses of this preferably distilled😅 in addition if you are having mold issues you may be too high in the moisture content
Try the ziploc bag fruiting tek it’s good for isolating contams
Hi, but when you remove the mycelium cake and put it in water, doesn't it all have to be sterilized? Can I remove them from the jar and put them under tap water without problems? Thank you
Yes it’s fine, once the cake is fully colonized it is resistant to contamination. Just use tap water.
I have yet to try this and and with this to follow, it won't be far down that mycelium path before I do. What a good way to make use of the lids I messed up drilling for luer lock filters too. You know I'm still waiting for that ostrich egg militaris grow @SporenSprout 😂
@Fred_myler why would I give a two shits ! why don't you try making a living for yourself , instead of off somebody else's coattails.... This almost makes me want to make a post saying don't go here!
Would cakes still remain solid with only grains? Whole rice and flour? And would rolling in coir work aswell?(PF tek without verm)
Yes that should work
If I sterilized 6 jars but only want to use 2 of them, would the silicone keep it sterile for when I eventually want to use it? Or should I just do 2 at a time.
Another question I have is, can I break these up and use them in a monotub if I mix it with something like coir?
Thanks in advance and thank you for your very helpful video! Can't wait to start growing
Yes you can save them after sterilization and they will last months on the shelf before inoculation. Yes you can definitely break up the cakes and mix with coco coir in a tub! I used to shred my cakes with a cheese shredder and make dub tubs like this video: How to Grow Mushrooms: Dub Tub Method
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@@SporenSprout Thank you so much for your reply and the video!! Appreciate you man 🙂
@@SporenSprout If i did two half pint jars of the same LC and colonized them both and mixed with a pre mixed bulk sub, would that work well in the 6 qt tub? I just let the sub from the brf mix with the pre made sub, and they will fully colonize eachother if i spread evenly, in 1-3 weeks? Thank you for the help brother!
@@Lagger-HD Yes you can mix colonized brf cakes with sub.
So three cups of the rice flour?
Did you put the jars in the cooker with a slightly loosened cap?
I did but it’s not a big deal.
Newbie here, why do you wash the cake in faucet water? I thought faucet water may have contaminates in them?
Fully colonized cakes are resistant to contamination. A fruiting chamber is not sterile , It is a natural process for the cakes to become contaminated after harvesting a couple times as well.
Mushrooms are amazing! wow@@SporenSprout
The funny mushrooms haha
Missed it, injecting with spores or cultures?
I used culture but you can use spores too.
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I have used rye spawn bags and just took the cake out of the bag and put it into a humidity chamber and gotten some yield. I'm wondering if I did this with those cakes but instead of vermiculite use a website casing mix or maybe coir. Do you think that would increase the yield? Thnx
Coir definitely improved my yields compared to just verm after the dunk. I use only coir for casing top and bottom now
What is that white soil, is that perlite?
@@piotrp3939 Yeah that is perlite. Here’s the video: How to Make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber for Growing Mushrooms
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I have yet to try this and now look more forward to it. What a great way to make use of my messed drilled filter holes lids for LC's too. Do you find it useful to have that bubble in the middle RTV sealer? You know I'm still waiting on that Oster egg militaris grow @SporenSprout 🤣
what is the red stuff? Does it self heal ?
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Was gonna ask the same thing so you just punch holes and put this on it to dry ? What about the center for air regulation what do you use for that?
What about the chemicals in tap water?
Yeah, with all the "forever chemicals" and other contaminants in water systems these days, I'd go for something filtered every step of the way
Hello, they replied to my comment quote "Fully colonized cakes are resistant to contamination. A fruiting chamber is not sterile , It is a natural process for the cakes to become contaminated after harvesting a couple times as well." @@TheWowWowWest
what can I substitute for brown rice flour?
Some type of grain such as milo or popcorn I’d imagine.
30 min p.c. time?
Yeah or 2 hours in a canning bath.
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😆 Thanks for watching! 🙏 🍄
You know you can just boil them for a half an hour and then modify the lid
Steaming them for half hour is not sufficient. It needs to be 2 hours steam bath or 30 minutes pressure cooker.
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Hey Spore, quick question if you have time. I set up several mono tubs last night (CVG) and ran out of substrate to top the last tub. I had the perfect amount to mix with my last two jars of spawn but not enough to cover the top and there are some exposed grains. I can't get coir locally, should I leave it alone or try to top it with vermiculite tonight? Or did I just screw this tub? @@SporenSprout
@@pyrocircus129 I would just let it run how it is and it will be fine. Take note for next time and compare. There shouldn’t be a drastic difference.
Thank you! @@SporenSprout
I don't see anywhere that says what it even is. The stuff in the bowl . He is assuming we all know and I wouldn't be here if I already knew how it is done.
Yes I did mention what’s in the bowl and there are even links to the materials in the description. It’s just brown rice flour, vermiculite and water in the bowl.
Literally listed off the ingredients in the bowl what could you possibly mean