Start To Finish “PF Tek” For Growing Mushrooms At Home (Part 1)
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It is not the best way to grow mushrooms, but it is a fun science project for growing mushrooms at home, and you can do it without any special equipment that you can't get at the grocery store or hardware store.
SUBSTRATE:
For Every 6 cakes use about:
-3.5 cups vermiculite
-1 cup brown rice flour
-350 ml water
NOTE: I know in the video I said ½ a cup vermiculite for 1 jar and then proceeded to say 3.5 cups for 6 jars, which doesn’t really make sense, but it doesn’t matter all that much, the more important thing is that the ratio is close and the substrate is properly hydrated. If you use the recipe above for 6 cakes it works perfectly.
MATERIAL REQUIRED (part 1, substrate and inoculation):
-Coarse Vermiculite (look in garden centers or here amzn.to/2yBGQvc )
-Brown Rice Flour (I used Bob’s Red Mill amzn.to/2KoWWuZ)
-250 ML wide mouth canning jars (make sure they are wide mouth or else you won’t be able to get your cakes out amzn.to/3axaUFE)
-tinfoil for covering the lids
-large clear tote for SAB (112 qt should be good amzn.to/2xRbl0b)
-isopropyl alcohol (if you can find it right now!)
-spray bottle for isopropyl alcohol
-paper towel
-lighter or alcohol lamp
-liquid culture syringe (i used mycelium emporium)
MATERIAL REQUIRED (part 2, fruiting):
-another large tote for making the fruiting chamber
-coarse perlite
-another spray bottle for water
-repti-fogger (optional)
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In fact, I enjoyed growing magic mushrooms so much that now I want to grow regular mushrooms
@Kotsmo That just proves cannabis is a gateway plant.
Does spores work or does it have to be liquid culture
@@bigbaby5790 It does not have to be liquid culture. Agar cultures, tissue cultures, spore prints, or even just throw some spawn from another jar or bag in there. There are numerous ways. Contamination is more important.
@@rockabillybird5601 Why can't I just sprinkle a spore print onto a cotton wool ball like I used to grow corn? :(
@@garyroberts2563 AAAAHHH THIS IS YOUR BRAIN AAAHHH THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON DRUGZZZZ lol
I like that you actually explain WHY the steps are necessary.
For me THAT is the most important part. Knowing why allows one to apply that knowlege to other areas much like knowing cooking techniques is better than knowing recipes.
same that’s the only way i learn things
AMEN! lol not enough people freaking do that,
and it's so annoying 🍀🍀🍀
best way to remember how to do things too since you understand the underlying concept
Duh
My son is 9 years old and watches all your videos! He hope to be a mushroom farmer one day 😊.
so cool!
Dope..
lol when quarntine started i got supplies to start and im hoping to have pins in a couple of days this song is super trippy any recomended doses i only taken shrooms one tine and it was 2 grams
@@odie1012 1 wait a bit then 1, just get used to it first.
Get him a mushrom from out side and at the bottom of the stem cut about 1 inch off pull it apart into little pieces.take a piece of cardboard and pull one of the paper layers off until about a inch is left put pecies of mushrooms on it spray with water bottle leave in cool spaded space and watch mushrooms grow.
The pf tek method was my first tek at growing magic mushrooms. After the first harvest in a fruiting chamber I buried the cakes in our vegetable garden and had a much better second harvest.
The cakes colonized quite a bit of soil substrate around them and I was able to get about 2 good harvests from the garden. Not to mention the potency difference from outdoor grown mushrooms was insane.
@primping how cold was it outside when you used your own garden? think i could get away with it in 40 degrees?
Did you have to mist them or just let them be? Also was it in shaded area or direct sunlight
@@lorianlong you could search up the best climate for your strain to answer this question.
damn i bet those elm oyster mushrooms were super potent
Thank you for being my mushroom growing mentor 🙏🏼🧙♂️ I’ve used all your tips for legal purposes 😀
For legal purposes? Well, if you get in legal trouble for growing psychedelics, you may be held legally responsible, not him, and 2: If he explains what and what not may be legal, then again, he's not responsible, because he's not a lawyer giving legal advice, only citing what he knows on the matter, and probably has not covered the full extent of the law, especially how it may vary state to state, and has made all that clear in disclaimers. In the end, it's up to you to familiarize yourself with what laws apply to you, and what risks you are willing to take, even if not on psychedelics, but also on food safety laws and anything governing botanicals like invasive species stuff and the like.
Happy growing, eating, and maybe tripping!🍄😊🍄😜🍄
Vermiculite is an inorganic high pressure heat treated material that holds no nutrients, it's for water retention as it absorbs and holds water, perlite is used for aeration when applied in soils or other plant mediums.
Perfect timing. I just inoculated my jars 4 days ago and I've been watching them like a hawk... it's so exciting. I mean, it's not, it's super super slow but I'm excited.
Next time, add some coffee ;-)
I feel so lucky to have such a nice man to teach me these things. He isn't arrogant, mean, or condescending like a lot of the men in the mushroom boards. well done. thank you!
Love your channel man. You're such a great teacher and you explain why you're doing each step the way you are. Top notch, Sir!
PF Tek was my starter Tek. Ofcorse only culinary shrooms 😉
Huh I din't know Gandhi grew shrooms
;)
@@prisminc158 gandhi didn't but Gayndhi above did lol
So you can't grow magic mushrooms with this tek ?
Eiko Becky you can
15:43 I would suggest inserting the needle as far as it will go, rather than inserting it very shallowly as he does here. You want the spores to be deposited directly on the BRF mixture, not the vermiculite layer above, and the needle typically needs to go all the way in for this to happen. The main vector for contaminants at this stage _is_ the needle so perhaps he is trying to reduce the chance for contamination, but he's also not giving the spores their best chance to germinate.
What if I used a full syringe for just 2 of those little jars
@@WarofClans That's definitely more than enough. Although you will definitely have success, I'm not sure I would recommend it however. Since you're working with spores and not a single strain, you're potentially creating many more strains than usual in a single jar by creating so many unique and more-than-necessary germination spots. This means more competition as the strains spread through the jar, possibly slowing the rate at which the jar becomes completely overgrown. You see progress much more quickly at first, but I find colonizing those last few stubborn spots can take longer when there's a bunch of different strains in the jar. It's a minor nitpick, you won't go wrong. Just maybe a few days longer to fully colonize, if that.
@@WarofClans People are looking at doing this for really speedy germination so that it ready for fruiting faster / it spreads faster than contamination can take hold you would be better off taking your syringe and growing on in a nutrient solution and then using that to inoculate otherwise you're just making it very expensive for yourself.
@@sinepilotyou’re supposed to shake the syringe, which means you’ll actually have similar amounts of contam/other spores in each jar.
These type of videos are beyond helpful. Especially for a noobs when only going by written instructions from a Tek can seem very overwhelming. Also helps with the lingo and names for actual tools/items. Thank you!
I'm confused. What is "beyond helpful"? The video is either helpful, or it is not.
Either English isn't your first language or you just like to be negative... obviously beyond helpful means the article provided more help than ever expected all in one place,that's what the term beyond helpful refers too.
What I've been doing during quarantine. Video editing for work, learning Python, and cultivating mushrooms/ micro greens.
DZL king shit
Sounds like what I’ve been doing accept I’m studying for the AWS solutions architect associate exam.
Same! Python and mushrooms haha
The engagement rate of your video is insane :))) Plus, I'm now craving for oyster mushroom...
It seems like a lot of people are making these videos this year. This is the best video on the tek I've seen so far.
I'm so thankful for these videos. I've chickened out and wasted syringes now at least a dozen times, and some of the text sites leave out portions of the steps, and often require strange adjustments to the basic instructions. I feel much more confident that my next grow will be a success.
Been wanting to learn how to grow my own mushrooms as they're my favorite savory plant food (not technically a veggie 😅), but they're kind of expensive! As far as veggies go, anyway. I've always been intimidated but you make it seem highly doable. Thank you!
I've used PF Tek then skipped the shotgun chamber and mixed it in a monotub with cococoir and the results were amazing.
Probably could have used barley instead but I'm happy with the results.
I'm planning to do the same thing. There was some hot cereal on sale at the store so I'm using that for PF Tek then going monotub
@@artathearta idk if that's such a good idea bc it can contain sugar and cinimon .some preservatives that can act to hinder fungal growth . Almost like a fungicide . Coco coir and vermiculite are quite cheap on Amazon . Then fill your fruiting chamber with a bit of perlite and your set
Did you break up the cakes first or put them in whole? How did you keep the monotub from contaminating?
Do you break up the cakes in the mono tub and then mix with the coco coir? Similar to broke boy tek?
Can you please elaborate on this lol. Please
Thanks for explaining the why" behind each step. It's really helping me understand more clearly how I should approach each step.
Some people make tutorials from copying other tutorials. This man makes tutorials from knowledge ❤️
A tip for anyone not wanting to cut holes in their jar lids- flip the inner lid upside down on the jar top. Screw on the screw part all the way, then loosen 1 turn. Allows for enough oxygen exchange and no contaminants. Just did this myself . :0)
How do you inject the spores then?
@@Tismesue you have to be quick after the jars cool down. Open the lid, inject then shut it. Not the most sterile, but it works for people who don’t have the resources
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Do NOT Attempt This. the holes are necessary!!! "hurry up and open the lid then. close it" that's literally the dumbest method I've ever heard... lids are like $3.50 for a 12 pack of Ball Dome Lids..
smh.... I bet you've had alot of success with your tek, huh 😂😂
@CoreyDrums i have bad days and use comments to vent too quite often. its nice to see other people do it as a reminder that its not healthy or attractive. i try so hard to keep my keyboard mouth shut 😩
@@CoreyDrums so to begin this is a great tek to fail with, I always suggest newbies do this tek. They will almost always fail and give up after a couple fails. The flat part of the lid should be tossed to the side, use tyvek instead. Inject and put a piece of tape over the hole. But seriously try this tek🙈 it's so wasteful with minimal return but you got this🤣.
I was wondering why I didn't see a link to part 2. Turns out you posted this video yesterday, and it's now 5:42 AM. I can't wait! :D
its coming! mushrooms are growing now :)
@@FreshCapMushrooms Can I still do this PF technique without a spore syringe..? (As liquid culture is advanced) and if so, at what step can I add mycelium from agar or a spore tissue sample to the cake in the jar? ... It would require opening the lid after the PC... therefore, wouldnt the action of opening the jar after pasturization contaminate again.. 😕 bcuz adding the spore tissue sample before PC will also kill the fungi at 15 PSI...
Some clarity would be deeply appreciated.. I started way advanced with all my jars contaminating.. Ao now Im giving this method a go; from the basics.. I clearly need some help 😆
Thank you! That was very kind of you to take the time to teach us an easier method to grow mushrooms. I'm a newbie so I need all the helpful tips I can get! Cheers!
Best description out there. A+ !!
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Awesome video, lots of good information. Seeing you jus sterilize them on the stovetop and how laid back you seem about the process Makes me feel safer about my first time doin this at home. Great job💪
Everything is in the mail to do pf tek for the first time. Hopefully everything arrives by Friday, I will inoculate this weekend...
Loving the production quality Tony!
thanks!
You were very right on stressing about sterility. The paradox of sterility is that the more you do the process right, the higher the chance that a single bacteria or spore can ruin all your work because it finds a perfect empty (no competition) environment to thrive. So imho nothing is overkill when you have to keep sterility as close as possible to perfect.
Great project for kids! Thank you!
I have my toddler flame sterilize the needle before every poke
A lot of great information, thank you! One thing though, medical needles are sterile in the packaging. Most of these videos instruct people to sterilize the needle, it is already sterile. By messing around with it (i. e. attempting heat sterilization) you increase the likelihood of contamination. Have you ever seen someone at a hospital clean a needle prior to use? No, because it is already sterile.
I think you need to sterilize the needle between jars, maybe not the first one.
That's a good line of thought but there are a couple of things to consider:
1. You are talking about a completely sterile substrate that's designed to grow microorganisms. ANY TINY SPORE can easily take over whatever you were trying to grow.
2. Air is full of spores. Once the needle is out, it can easily pick up a few spores on it and going into the substrate
3. The trick with the hot needle (and notice carefully he tells you NOT to cool it down) is that it's red hot going into the jar. So, it is sterile when it is in (and then it cools down)
4. Injecting a living person is a totally different idea. Living people have lots of microorganisms on their skin and in their blood, plus they have at least some sort of immune system (you'd die immediately if you didn't have any immune system functions). Last but not least, airborne microbes are extremely unlikely to grow inside a human AND REMEMBER WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT INJECTING A HUMAN HERE!!! Therefore, hospitals do not sterilise needles because that has a negligible benefit
you guys have a special place in heaven for these videos
High quality video man! Great job and thank you!
Thanks for finally providing an actual full walkthrough of PF Tek. The available instructions on this tek online is so scttered and lo-tech it makes it difficult to follow.
FYI, when sterilizing, remember that the steam is what generates the heat for sterilization. When water is boiling, the water stays at 100 degrees, only the steam can go over that temperature. I'm doing this for the first time and realized that I did it wrong and put too much water.
Yeah! Also a good reason to use a clear lid-so you can monitor the water level without releasing the heat
So basically only use enough water to generate steam?
I love growing mushrooms but I've never done PF tek. After watching how much fun Tony had doing this I'm going to make some tonight just for fun.
Great video, looking forward to part 2 mate
I tried this with the vermiculite recplaced with maple wood chips from a thickness planer and two layes of cut surgical mask fabric taped to the lids as filters. I put a large pinch of pearl oyster mushroom spawn from a kit in the top. Of the 4 jars I made there was no contamination and the jars were fully colonized in about 2 weeks
Mixing dry ingredients before adding water is way easier to combine just a small tip otherwise amazing video and tek tutorial :)
I read somewhere else mixing the vermiculite with water first helps the BRF adhere to it properly.
It’s a good question. I wish he’d addressed the reason for not mixing the dry ingredients together first.
Thanks gonna try it!
Agreed on this! Took me some trial and error to figure it out. However, I've always wondered about the BRF/verm/water ratio, I always worked with 2:1:1 - do you use what he's described here?
Excellent, video with clear instructions! Thank you.
New sub here.
Long time mycology enthusiast / grower / eater....
What a great channel I found today 😀
Psychedelic help alot and they're like a cheat sheet to life, but you could also experience the same things. Psychedelic amp tf out whilst being sober, mediation and astral projection are key.
I've heard so much and I really want to try them too. I put so much on my plate and it's really affecting my stress and anxiety levels.
He on the gram?
@@ingridsara213 yeah
Dr.henryshroom!*
Yeah I got mine delivered to my door step. Didn't take much time though...
I remember hearing the term "birthing a cake" the first time when starting with mushrooms and I was deeply disturbed.
Me too I didn't know what to think tbh!
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you are a splendid teacher !! thanks man!!
Very thoroughly and detail explained. Thanks! Wish me luck
this dude is dreamy af
Good idea fresh cap!! You should make a video about mono tub Tek 😁
NorthSpore has one.
@@john-smith. It's full of bad information.
You’ve helped me so much with these types of videos. Thank you.
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Your vids are great quality. This is a fantastic method for those just starting out with the basics. for culinary mushrooms of course ;)
As usually great video ;) Small comments: I think it's better to mix BRF with vermiculite first (very easy mixing - just close the container and shake it) and then add water. When you inocculate you should put needle deep enough to pass pure vermiculit layer. And of course making inocculation ports in lid decrease contamination probability (besides pure vermiculite layer, ofc).
I'm find that doing it this wsy actually mixes it more evenly, I know it's contradictory to mixing any thing for baking. But what I know. 😆
Good videos. You explain everything extremely well. I have been meaning to try this method. I find using automotive hi temp silicon over the colonizing jar lid holes stops contamination and doesn't get damaged in the pressure cooker. It is self healing after you pull the needle out. Just lick you finger and dab the wet silicon before it dries to shape it and let the silicon cur overnight. I recently purchased a USB programmable timer reptile/terrarium fogger system. I will set this up with the perlite in my fruiting chamber to mist for a minute several times per day. The foggers are a very fine mist and should work well. I like how you more or less crumb the colonized cakes in vermiculite. I might even put a timer on USB computer fan on one side for fresh air exchange when fruiting.
Yo Andy - thanks for these two really solid ideas as I was having issues on manual misting at certain times and these usb timer systems for reptile tanks etc seem to be perfect as a solution … much love and respect from flatbush av bk nyc my brother.
@@MoAli-wm4of Thanks. All my stufff is on hold until I move into my new house. I will restart my hobby then. Currenlty growing some nice Trichocereus catus amongst my collection. They are a fun and cool to look at.
FYI I ordered blunt tipped needles for this kind of work. Due to having essential tremor, I wanted to reduce the stress of worrying about a possible needle stick. There's a place for needing sharp needles. However, anywhere they are not needed I'll now have the blunt needles. Not sure if I am allowed to add the link from the vendor supplying Walmart online with these blunt needles. If okay, I'll come back and post it.
Thank you FreshCap I just inoculated my first six jars! You and two other sites helped me follow my heart!
I used this method 30 years ago after every other scheme I tried failed. Worked very well. I supplied myself and my friends with many years of smiles.
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Well growers know what its used for😂
Psilocybin
XD
@Travis Lamb Lamb what ?
@Travis Lamb Lamb thanks for enlightening the masses lol
@Travis Lamb Lamb me too I think it will be around forever
I couldn't stop starring at the clock on the microwave.
This info is worth more than Gold!
Awesome video compared to the others. Very easy to follow and good recording with easy to follow steps. Thank you very much.
Imo at the very least you should place some kind of filter, something as simple as a napkin and rubber band over the lids goes a long way to prevent random spores from getting into the holes, because the air is always full of spores.
So the window where you need to be careful with contamination is after cooking the jars , during inoculation, and before closing the lid on the storage box , so i assume you would need to give the storage box a sterilizing.
Thanks so much!
The explanation is really clear for me
Thank you for keeping it simple! Great video :)
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RIP Psylocybe Fanaticus
He was a true pioneer.
F means fail so by saying f you’re essentially saying he failed
@@user-nu2pj2ch7t nah man, it's from the meme "press F to pay respectx
@@user-nu2pj2ch7t You need more pop culture, dude
Can I use clean jam jars or would they crack in the boiling water
Hey, thanks for the great 2-part video. I just have a couple of questions, if you don't mind.
1. You know how you filled the mason jar to the very top with a dry vermiculite layer? Is it okay to poke the needle of the syringe through it, as long as you sterilize it with flame every time?
2. After you inoculate the jars and wait for them to colonize, how sterile of an environment do you need for storage? I was just thinking I'd sterilize a tote box and store them all in it.
Same questions!
I'm hardly an expert but I've had plenty of successful grows with this method so hopefully I can give some fairly accurate answers. :) Yep, just to be safe, sterilise the needle each time, and you want to get the needle through the dry vermiculite layer just to the top of the BRF mixture. No point leaving spore mixture in the dry vermiculite, it won't do anything! And as for jar colonising, I mean, obviously don't leave them in a filthy environment, but I usually just keep them in my kitchen cupboard.
Perlite for aeration and vermmamamama that you say perfectly for moisture retention 👍 great video, got me subbed.
Great video, seriously. Explanations are top notch. Tha k you for your informative review
Drink every time he says vermiculite.
I have coffee
You're going to be very awake then
Thank you for the video. Question - How many cc per port or per cake do you use?
Same question here. Tnx for asking!
Same question here
About 2 cc per cake split into four injections
love your vids super professional 😊🍄👍🏼
Great video. Thank you! Just inoculated my substrate with True Albinos and this video really helped me understand why I need to do what I do. I have been growing here and there with good success but I really want to up my game. I absolutely love growing oysters. Got a few bags of King Oysters going (first try for me). Again, thank you. I have learned why it is important to be almost OCD growing any mushrooms!
Could there be possible advantages from mixing whole brown rice grain with the flour? You had mentioned wanting to keep it hydrated. I feel like the whole grain could hold onto the moisture for longer than the flour.
I don't know about the grain but I've heard good things about using brown rice bran with the flour just expensive that way
Maybe! Use google to see if others did it. The verm is used for water retention, the BRF is just for nutrients. Flour form might make the nutrients more readily available
Great stuff, thank you! Is there much of a difference in the process using a spore vs. culture syringe? I want to try my hand at growing and found some Lions Mane and Reshi Red advertised as "spore syringes" not cultures, so I'm not sure if I need to follow a different technique. Thanks!
Nobody answered you yet, so I just wanted to say: yes, there's a difference. The spore syringes will just take much longer to colonize since they have to germinate before mycelium can form. Good luck!
@@fakechuck7659 Thanks a ton for the reply and ironically my 1st flush just started fruiting yesterday. A long journey from MSS to agar, to more agar, to grain, to CVG but it is great to see these little guys popping up. I think my teacher Mrs. Au would give me a B+, but but she is just envious. Thanks again.
@@toddwmac congrats on your success!
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you're the best, brother!
The best mushrooms channel ever
Hey guys! Thought I would do this video in two parts, part 2 here: czcams.com/video/2jkZKbip3Po/video.html
@@bestrongcourageous5754 Reishi normally grow on old trees, but there are home methods that use sawdust blocks to a similar effect as this. Those end up growing out of a bag as well though so the pf tek probably won't be too useful for Reishi
Hands down...you have the best mushroom videos and tips...thank you very much for what you do
FreshCap Mushrooms would perlite work?
@@dildoshwagins2222 you want vermiculite... perlite doesn't hold water--the vermiculite makes sure there is plenty of water in the substrate.
I have a question. After the jars are colonized are you able to break the cakes and use them in a mono tub for bulk grow?
My question as well.
@@carolyoung9252 mine too🤣 did you try?
💜Hoping to see a recipe on the next video too 😉
Super clear, thanks a lot!
I wonder if I try this but with charcoal instead of vermiculite. 🤔
honestly, not sure... I don't see why not? even like wood chips might work really nice (smaller wood chips/sawdust)
You should just try it and make a new video! How much water does charcoal hold? There are some posts on forums regarding field capacity of fine vs. coarse vermiculite. You could apply the same technique to determine if it'll hold enough water. Other than that, doesn't mycelium hold most of the carbon on the planet? You could also try 50/50 charcoal/vermiculite and what not.
Cody You should use some of the pine needles from you trees that are dying, Keep well sir cody!
Cody please consider the symbiotic relationship for trees to fungi nutrients exchange. They create certain sugars that exchange for myco related nutrients.
@@TheKazzarry Would they hold water??
A quick question, can I take a bit of the mycelium from one bottle and put into another bottle to have it replicating?
No
Yes you can. Just difficult to keep contam free.
Good time to use peroxide to help you along.
Elm oysters are a TRIP! Super pumped! Last time I lemon tek’d them AND WOW!! tastebud EXPLOSION! 🍄
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Very informative video bro
Can I replace brown rice flour with anything else, such as rye flour etc?
Rye flour works great
You recently mentioned how Cordyceps Sinensis can't be grown at home. I found a tek at The Mycelium Emporium. Can you verify if it actually works?
For sinensis? Or militaris?
@@FreshCapMushrooms Sinensis, the caterpillar fungus.
www.themyceliumemporium.com/product-page/caterpillar-fungus-cordyceps-sinensis
@@prisminc158 OK ya, sinensis can't be grown at home (or anywhere for that matter) but militaris can be
Thanks for the wisdom. I’ll keep passing it along 💯
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I like the way it’s very obvious that this video is to help us grow elm oyster mushrooms
great vid !!! I had beginner's luck I guess . wasn't very sterile at all .. I always wondered.... Nature isn't sterile , why do we have to be to grow mushrooms .... they grow in non sterile places .. I understand the science behind contamination .. but I had 3 flushes from this tec, first try ... smaller jars ... no flame .. no SAB... just a wipe for the needle .. 4 jars .. 0 problems !! Obviously now I'm hooked lol . my question is how do you pick substrates for mushrooms ? I've heard hemp fibers are good ...coffee ... wood ...is there an easy way to tell which substrate to use for each variety ?
you have to think in nature the mycelium grows underground which is pretty protected from alot of contamination in the air. And also in nature you only see the mushrooms that successfully grew, i bet theres way more than that got contaminated and just didnt grow.
I'm just growing oyster mushrooms I swear!
Lol no but seriously I went with a 5lb presterilized spawn bag, the mycelium is in the middle of colonizing now. Wish me luck, its my first time
How did your bags come out? I had a couple bags from Midwest grow... both fully spawned.
Well my 2.5lb bag from FreshCultivators already grew a first flush of 16g then a 2nd flush of like 10g, i'm going for a 3rd flush right now but I dont think its gonna happen.
Then my 5lb bag from MycoHaus came really late so its still in the middle of colonizing, itll be ready for fruiting conditions in a week or two, so far everything seems fine with it.
Then I got a 2nd 5lb bag and the rye grain is almost done colonizing, but a small patch of white fuzz grew on the back of it the other day so it might be contaminated
How did it go?
@@snufkin4374 Grew a 5lb bag and the 2.5lb bag, spent about 100 in total and made about 700 selling it, and I was selling it cheap.
The third bag was growing pretty good but I let it colonize for too long and it started smelling real bad like it was decomposing, it was making some pretty good mushrooms but I didn't know if it was safe and I didnt want my room smelling. Ended up spreading it around my yard on the off chance the mycelium spreads and I get free shrooms when it rains, or just get better soil. If it was good couldve made those 100 into 1000, lesson for next time to not order bags all at the same time if you dont have the space to fruit them all at the same time. Still got 13grams left aswell
Ballsweat McGee enjoy man!
Great video! I put micropore tape over the holes after injecting. Just a little more protection and they still come out great.
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have you every tried your hand at "Uncle Ben's" Tek? Just wondering what your thoughts are of it's efficiency in providing nutrients to the mycelium.
I've heard its not very good at all. I wouldnt waste your time on it
Growing shrooms isnt Rocket science ! People always saying you need pressure cooker but no (:
lol, at no big farmers out there using pf tek to produce thousands of pounds of mushrooms ;)
you definintely want a pressure cooker, even if its not required to "grow" a mushroom
teach me
I did mine w/o a pressure cooker. I first got confirmation from another experienced grower here on CZcams. I just used a really large metal pot with a good fitting lid. I lined the bottom with mason jar tops and foil and sat my 5 mason jars on top. I put water at the bottom and put the heat up to high then waited for it to steam. Once it was steaming I began my timer for 90 MINUTES. I turned the heat down but made sure it was constantly steaming for the full hour and a half. My mycelium is poppin in my jars now. Its been 14 days. I expect to be fully colonized in 1 week then will wait another for pinning before i birth them. This is my first time growing BTW. Very satisfying
@@jessicaali4256 do you have an Instagram or something? I’m about to start and I have a few questions
flour and vermiculite compared to unbroken full grains: the mycelium will colonize brown rice flour faster because there's more surface area. Think about drinking water vs sucking on an ice cube. This means less time for any contaminants to colonize your substrate. However, the mycelium won't eat the vermiculite and so there will be less yield.
Now you might be asking why not do just brown rice flour and no vermiculite? Well all life needs water to reproduce and if you put water in flour it cakes up and becomes quite impermeable just like the whole grains. So now you'd have just one big impermeable mass of substrate. So it's either flour and vermiculite or whole grains.
Now the reason that vermiculite mixture can be sterilized without the higher temperature provided by a pressure cooker is because the minerals in vermiculite conduct heat much faster. You can in fact sterilize any size jar of unprocessed grains without vermiculite, but it would take a very long time for the heat from the boiling water to permeate the grain without the high thermal conductivity of the minerals contained within vermiculite. The pressure cooker adds that bit of extra heat needed to get to the center of the relatively non-conductive grains.
Something I think that growers have a hard time grasping is that there are almost always some contaminants left alive no matter how deeply you sterilize your substrate. It's just whether or not your preferred organism gets to the substrate before the contaminant does. In nature, it's a constant battle. What we're doing is trying to win the battle for a preferred organism by killing off all of the other competitors. It's nearly impossible, which is why we take great care in sterlization techniques. It's all about tight tolerances, not about getting contamination to zero. When you leave your grain in a 15 PSI pressure cooker for 90 minutes, you should think of it as killing 99.99% of competitors rather than 100%. Then imperfect innoculation technique may take it down to 99.9%. Then contaminants creeping in the sides of the jar takes it to 99%. But by this point your mycelium has been given the chance to win the day. But with improper technique, your percentage may have been brought down to 90% by the time you inject and it just gets worse from there. You may get some yield from that first generation, but if you try to transfer that culture to a new substrate, you've just transferred contaminants. Just sterilize again, right? Well then you'll be killing your preferred organism and would be starting over anyways. And you'd be asking your preferred organism to engage in cannibalism of its ancestors' metabolic byproducts which is not ideal.
So it's very important to get sterilization as close as you can to 100% but don't fool yourself into thinking it will ever actually be 100%. Just do your best. The only way to get to 100% (not 99.999999%) sterilization of substrate is to heat it enough to burn it which will turn the carbon to carbon dioxide that joins the atmosphere, leaving only minerals behind (this is what ash is). But if there's one grain that a contaminant claims in the middle of your jar? No problem. Your mycelium can grow around that. However, growth is exponential so if there are two grains, that will end up being more than double the contamination over time, especially when you consider culture transfer to new substrate.
-- recent graduate in microbiology studies. I haven't grown mushrooms yet so I may be talking out of my ass from a purely theoretical perspective, but take my scientific perspective for what it's worth :)
That's brilliant, thanks. Could you add a part 3 on how to make a spore syringe?
Yup we all are definitely here to learn to grow oyster or button mushroom (*wink wink*)
Great content! Thank you!
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Excellent presentation on Psylocybe Fanaticus's Technique (PF TEK created by Robert McPherson in 1991).
A still air box (SAB) can be made on the cheap from a cardboard box with cling film on the top and two cut-out arm holes.
You can make a SAB even cheaper by just hanging your box a bit off a ledge and reaching in from below lol 😆
Love the videos man! Thanks for the very informative structure. I had a quick question. Do you ever put the foil back on after injecting the spores and leave it on during incubation? Just wondering if that would also help with protecting from contaminants or if it's better to leave it off for some gas exchange.
Great work
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Great video, good quality, only thing I was wondering is if fine vermiculite would work instead of coarse